Do you think Pixel C will get ChromeOS? - Pixel C Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The hardware seems good for a small Chromebook, but I read a rumor/insight that ChromeOS touchscreen wasnt ready so last minute they loaded Android, as shown in the bootloader and drivers.
Does anyone think they'll offer ChromeOS for the Pixel C?
Or it is all it can be and it is the split-screen champion of Android N and hence why the 25% "developer's" discount?

The discount came around because there's so little development and fairly limited interest. Since it has a Chrome OS bootloader, dev'ing for it is harder, from what I hear/understand. I doubt it'll get Chrome OS, though I'm hoping for Remix OS. I wish they would replace the bootloader with an Android one, but I doubt that's possible remotely.

YevOmega said:
The discount came around because there's so little development and fairly limited interest. Since it has a Chrome OS bootloader, dev'ing for it is harder, from what I hear/understand. I doubt it'll get Chrome OS, though I'm hoping for Remix OS. I wish they would replace the bootloader with an Android one, but I doubt that's possible remotely.
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I just yesterday manually flashed the latest Android, and I did the fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-dragon-google_smaug.7132.295.0.img
I'm sure bootloader could be modified.
The relatively quiet Pixel C shows me there is little interest relatively for this tablet.

It's a real shame as this tablet has a lot of potential. I guess I bought into that potential though I do consider XDA as the benchmark and if this section isn't booming....then
Doesn't help with the early woes and the normal price of the unit. I've been fortunate to have a problem free unit, mine is fast, fluid, well built and all that lacks is some decent software.
I suppose N will be our salvation.

nigelhealy said:
I just yesterday manually flashed the latest Android, and I did the fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-dragon-google_smaug.7132.295.0.img
I'm sure bootloader could be modified.
The relatively quiet Pixel C shows me there is little interest relatively for this tablet.
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Modified =/= change from Chrome OS to Android bootloader. I too have it unlocked. I just think that changing to an Android bootloader involves hardware changes as well as firmware.
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Doughnut said:
It's a real shame as this tablet has a lot of potential. I guess I bought into that potential though I do consider XDA as the benchmark and if this section isn't booming....then
Doesn't help with the early woes and the normal price of the unit. I've been fortunate to have a problem free unit, mine is fast, fluid, well built and all that lacks is some decent software.
I suppose N will be our salvation.
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N should be great. To be fair, I don't really need much past what GravityBox provides me.... I'm just a flashaholic. Really, really hoping for Remix OS though.

YevOmega said:
Modified =/= change from Chrome OS to Android bootloader. I too have it unlocked. I just think that changing to an Android bootloader involves hardware changes as well as firmware.
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I would like there to be a ChromeOS ROM version for the Pixel C in so far as the multitasking and windowing is superior and not reliant on apps being modified, unlike Android N will take year+ to get all apps to behave.
However I don't see it happening, it makes no sense to retrofit it on the Pixel C, unless they decide to use the Pixel C as a developer option to pull ChromeOS upwards on that form factor with touchscreen.

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I would like there to be a ChromeOS ROM version for the Pixel C in so far as the multitasking and windowing is superior and not reliant on apps being modified, unlike Android N will take year+ to get all apps to behave.
However I don't see it happening, it makes no sense to retrofit it on the Pixel C, unless they decide to use the Pixel C as a developer option to pull ChromeOS upwards on that form factor with touchscreen.
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I agree, not gonna happen.

Related

Little rant to get it out of my chest...

Disclaimer: This is rant, a civilized one, if you disagree with me, you are welcome to illustrate me but offenses are not appreciated.
This phone is great, but it refuses to be acceptable as a daily driver.
Developers are the best people in the world, they do what they do with no return at all sometimes, but the software (the lack of a good kernel base) makes it really hard to enjoy. I could never get more than 4.5 hours of SOT on any ROM, whereas stock would give me at least 5.5; however stock software is a bad joke for the Android base and the camera output is nerve wracking...
The CDLA headphones are a must, no one likes the dongle and it seems that (due to broken kernel) no dev was able to figure out this one (clarifying again that I don't blame them). So my options are to get used to carry the dongle or to the crack and pop from the CDLA ones... hmmmmmm......
I see the exact same story as with the Amazon phone, on its time, the Amazon phone had a really good thing going here in XDA, but the bootloader was never unlocked and the momentum was lost. I had to let go on my Fire phone....
For the LePro3, many great options are at hand at the same price, I'm looking heavily right now at the LG G5 from the $200 custom rom on eBay, WAY BETTER camera (like 10X times better), about the same battery life if you compare custom ROM of LePro3 vs stock of LG G5, and I have to admit that although I dislike LG's interface, it is tolerable.
Also, the LeEco servers (including the one that supports OTAs) has been down for at least 3 days (that I have tried myself), like seriously, we know the company is nearly in bankruptcy although still having customer support working, but the fact that security updates have halted and servers are down, tells me that there is something wrong going on.
At $200 dlls that I got the phone for, it is still not worth it for *me*.
My Moto Z play was $450 with a hasselblad camera mod that I was able to sell to get $100 in return, so for $350, I would still take yet another Moto Z Play at the current price, with way lower specifications, than taking a LePro3 for $200.
Help yourself and download these apps
Power Toggles
ACDisplay
Simple Control
Fingerprint Quick Action
Pixel Launcher
Modify the DPI to 300 via ADB
Download Google Camera (2.7) , Phone, Contacts etc from APKMirror
I am enjoying all the benefits from stock ROM plus emulated stock Android experience. =D
I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.
Jose-MXL said:
Disclaimer: This is rant, a civilized one, if you disagree with me, you are welcome to illustrate me but offenses are not appreciated.
This phone is great, but it refuses to be acceptable as a daily driver.
Developers are the best people in the world, they do what they do with no return at all sometimes, but the software (the lack of a good kernel base) makes it really hard to enjoy. I could never get more than 4.5 hours of SOT on any ROM, whereas stock would give me at least 5.5; however stock software is a bad joke for the Android base and the camera output is nerve wracking...
The CDLA headphones are a must, no one likes the dongle and it seems that (due to broken kernel) no dev was able to figure out this one (clarifying again that I don't blame them). So my options are to get used to carry the dongle or to the crack and pop from the CDLA ones... hmmmmmm......
I see the exact same story as with the Amazon phone, on its time, the Amazon phone had a really good thing going here in XDA, but the bootloader was never unlocked and the momentum was lost. I had to let go on my Fire phone....
For the LePro3, many great options are at hand at the same price, I'm looking heavily right now at the LG G5 from the $200 custom rom on eBay, WAY BETTER camera (like 10X times better), about the same battery life if you compare custom ROM of LePro3 vs stock of LG G5, and I have to admit that although I dislike LG's interface, it is tolerable.
Also, the LeEco servers (including the one that supports OTAs) has been down for at least 3 days (that I have tried myself), like seriously, we know the company is nearly in bankruptcy although still having customer support working, but the fact that security updates have halted and servers are down, tells me that there is something wrong going on.
At $200 dlls that I got the phone for, it is still not worth it for *me*.
My Moto Z play was $450 with a hasselblad camera mod that I was able to sell to get $100 in return, so for $350, I would still take yet another Moto Z Play at the current price, with way lower specifications, than taking a LePro3 for $200.
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rivethead23 said:
I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.
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I have to agree with rivethead23 I got the Pro 3 and immediately flashed the Turbo Destroyer rom on it and have never had any regrets
I also bought an LG G6 and I found it was no upgrade to the Pro 3 and ended up returning it.
My advice is to Flash the Turbo EUI 21S v20 rom and Nova launcher with Nova Google companion and you get the best experience from this device
rivethead23 said:
I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.
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Pretty much this.
I'm using the phone on stock 26s, pretty heavily customized though: Magisk, Xposed, Viper, GravityBox, Tasker, stock android/Google apps like Dialer Contact Messages Calendar Keep Hangout Gmail etc., Nova Launcher with companion, PlayerPro and VLC, Brave browser... I removed all Chinese bloatware, and stock apps I don't need anymore like Contact, Message, Music, Video, Browser, Launcher, LIVE, lots of LeEco apps, etc. Disabled all stock extra memory optimizations to let Android deal with memory. Splash and bootanim without Chinese. Etc.
It works really great, battery is still really good (I often have 5 or 5.5 hours SoT at the end of the day), I customized a lot of things to make it exactly how I wanted it. So far, the best device I owned, and one of the cheapest...
ZeblodS said:
Pretty much this.
I'm using the phone on stock 26s, pretty heavily customized though: Magisk, Xposed, Viper, GravityBox, Tasker, stock android/Google apps like Dialer Contact Messages Calendar Keep Hangout Gmail etc., Nova Launcher with companion, PlayerPro and VLC, Brave browser... I removed all Chinese bloatware, and stock apps I don't need anymore like Contact, Message, Music, Video, Browser, Launcher, LIVE, lots of LeEco apps, etc. Disabled all stock extra memory optimizations to let Android deal with memory. Splash and bootanim without Chinese. Etc.
It works really great, battery is still really good (I often have 5 or 5.5 hours SoT at the end of the day), I customized a lot of things to make it exactly how I wanted it. So far, the best device I owned, and one of the cheapest...
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Is 26s an official update? I've only received 21s ota on my x727
darkmuck said:
Is 26s an official update? I've only received 21s ota on my x727
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It's the latest Chinese stock ROM for x720.
ALSO RANT:
Well the issue is with android itself, there is no real AOSP phone, i don't get why manufaturers just don't put AOSP on phone and be done with it, i guess target for android phones are geeks, at least this kind of android phones. I wanted dual sim phone, but now i think i will manage some woraround and go ios, as bad as it is, OS is much more polished and unified.
Even Moto with almost stock android still does not get direct google updates, it is just bad design.
BTW i use pro3 as daily, i get 8 + hours SOT with stock firmare, i managed to get ACR to work quite good, DND to work quite good, but still, default apps, like browser does not work, google integration is crap, even with launcher 3, missing pulldown is a joke and google services crash quite often so ... meh, but still better then my gs4 with new battery and lineage
Oh and also the ambient light sensors sets screen too dim for me at night, until now I had opposite problem with all the other phones i had.
I also have galaxy s7 at hand to use and in my opinion samsung android is even worse.
The main issue is there is really no Android OS, no phone with AOSP, which is only real Android OS, only ****ton of phones with more or less molested OS.
BTW my budget was 1100usd for a phone, i still chose pro3 and I still think, despite it's flaws, for me, it is best choice, which is sad, but it is reality, we can't change it, reality is reality. I will try z2 force with battery pack if they sell it officially in Czech, but I don't expect much.
Oh my I thought I was the only one with the headphone issue
Hmm my Le Pro 3 is coming soon... But I'm more likely to just sell It while it's new and make some $$$ of it. Seeing this rants and all... AOSP/lineage is a must for me, same as Oreo.
Just gonna buy OP5 to replace my Bacon. Maybe that jelly pentile so not exactly FHD, POS display won't be so bad...
FunkyRasta said:
Hmm my Le Pro 3 is coming soon... But I'm more likely to just sell It while it's new and make some $$$ of it. Seeing this rants and all... AOSP/lineage is a must for me, same as Oreo.
Just gonna buy OP5 to replace my Bacon. Maybe that jelly pentile so not exactly FHD, POS display won't be so bad...
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These rants are about things that we would like to have on the device and are inevitable, like the fact that we knew that there was no headphone jack and that the CDLA headphones are not perfect on custom software, we knew it and still took the chance, not the phone or dev's fault.
Other than that, the phone is amazing, you should give it a go, I don't think you can get too much money out of it, this is the wrong phone to re-sell for higher.
Also, you have a very specific example from other people in this thread, which is, you might like stock software which gives you the best battery life for the device.
Jose-MXL said:
These rants are about things that we would like to have on the device and are inevitable, like the fact that we knew that there was no headphone jack and that the CDLA headphones are not perfect on custom software, we knew it and still took the chance, not the phone or dev's fault.
Other than that, the phone is amazing, you should give it a go, I don't think you can get too much money out of it, this is the wrong phone to re-sell for higher.
Also, you have a very specific example from other people in this thread, which is, you might like stock software which gives you the best battery life for the device.
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I pretty OK with using adapter, no problem with me. I ordered it from China so when it gets to Europe it is worth more. I certainly would not lose money on it.
The only things that worry me are uncertain future of Oreo on this device and overall stability. I currently manage over 4 hours SOT with my OnePlus One.... Why this thing with 4070 Mah (thousand f-ing more) does 4.5 H or slightly more ? With newer SoC, screen etc. Stock software is a no-go for me. Android 6.0 is a no-go for me. So I rely on custom ROMs and dev support. At least dev support here is great!
Coming from Nexus and Nexus 5x, I was used to having so many roms and kernels. Getting LP3 was a big big jump and I did not like it in early days when no roms were available.
Now with more than enough roms and solid kernels, I do not miss anything. Omni Rom gives me 9 hrs of screen on time for my usage. It does not feel/act different than roms I used before.
The only problem was the camera performance. But with Google Camera port, that is no longer a problem now.

Android 8.0 Oreo Port

Any potential Oreo port for the note 4 verizon?
I second that..... It's a great phone still and the last with a replaceable battery. Plus we're already unlocked and rooted.
Would like to bump this again.
The note 4 is very powerful and stacks up to the latest flagship phones in many performance areas, great display, great snapdragon processor, overall an awesome phone. Especially now with a unlocked bootloader and rooted, would be awesome to resurrect this phone and get Oreo.
Here's a spec comarison from the note 4 vs the google pixel.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/products/lang/en_us/devices/galaxy-note-4,google-pixel/
Need my Oreo fix for my note 4
I hard bricked my of note 4 last year but it was such a great phone and with the removable battery I bought another note 4 and rooted it again the day I got it...
I have an Oreo rom working on my budget Moto g 2013 but not on my note 4
Cue judge Smails
Yes!!!
Surprised no other interests. Over 1k views and only 4 responses.
@maksimreder, give it time. I wouldn't be surprised if hsbadr comes up with a port. I think he would be our only hope, granted I don't see other ROM developers making a 7.0 ROM, maybe they just don't have the "know-how". Given what I've seen in terms of release schedules, if it does happen, I wouldn't count on it for maybe...a couple months, if it's gonna happen at all. HOPEFULLY, by the end of the year. I haven't followed, though. Is Android Oreo even complete? Has it been released and pre-installed on any new phones? I think we'd have to at least wait for that to happen, first if it hasn't, already.
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[/COLOR @maksimreder, give it time. I wouldn't be surprised if hsbadr comes up with a port. I think he would be our only hope, granted I don't see other ROM developers making a 7.0 ROM, maybe they just don't have the "know-how". Given what I've seen in terms of release schedules, if it does happen, I wouldn't count on it for maybe...a couple months, if it's gonna happen at all. HOPEFULLY, by the end of the year. I haven't followed, though. Is Android Oreo even complete? Has it been released and pre-installed on any new phones? I think we'd have to at least wait for that to happen, first if it hasn't, already.
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[/COLOR @maksimreder, give it time. I wouldn't be surprised if hsbadr comes up with a port. I think he would be our only hope, granted I don't see other ROM developers making a 7.0 ROM, maybe they just don't have the "know-how". Given what I've seen in terms of release schedules, if it does happen, I wouldn't count on it for maybe...a couple months, if it's gonna happen at all. HOPEFULLY, by the end of the year. I haven't followed, though. Is Android Oreo even complete? Has it been released and pre-installed on any new phones? I think we'd have to at least wait for that to happen, first if it hasn't, already.
Yeah thats fine, I just wished the 1k viewers that saw this thread would chime in and offer their support.
I'm sure Resurrection Remix will have Oreo very soon. Never understood why Lineage for the GN4 wasn't officially supported.
Well the biggest issue would be that 8.0 isn't supposed to have 32 but support but the nexus 5 and 6 both have Oreo ported to them so it should be possible hardware wise art least. I don't know enough about it to be sure, but I'd think lots of the nexus 6 changes could carry over to the note 4 considering they have nearly identical specs.
Would love to see an Oreo port for the Canadian Note 4.
Seriously Doubt this will happen, would be wonderful. There is a huge amount of work involved. A great Article is somewhere on here about making things work. From SHIMs to the Binaries. Qualcomm already said they wouldnt go back this far for drivers.. Honestly unless using a modded stock ROM this thing just doesnt work right on most ROMs. I will keep in the drawer as a backup, just ordered a N8 unlocked. Couldnt resist it at 650$ w/ free Dex & WiFi Charger via their app.
Well, I found a whole lotta nothing. But hey, here's a page that says the link was removed but will be re-added shortly. I'll believe it when i see it, but if you want to see it, here it is: http://rootmygalaxy.net/lineage-os-15-on-samsung-galaxy-note-4/
I suspect someone will post a link to an Android 8.0 ROM in these forums sooner or later. From what I understand, Android Oreo is the first ROM to not have a 32-bit version, which has probably hampered efforts.
Hi Guys just wanted to say I hope we get 8.0
JOSHSKORN said:
Well, I found a whole lotta nothing. But hey, here's a page that says the link was removed but will be re-added shortly. I'll believe it when i see it, but if you want to see it, here it is: http://rootmygalaxy.net/lineage-os-15-on-samsung-galaxy-note-4/
I suspect someone will post a link to an Android 8.0 ROM in these forums sooner or later. From what I understand, Android Oreo is the first ROM to not have a 32-bit version, which has probably hampered efforts.
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Such a great Phone in every way just got mine routed and boot unlocked 5.1 tried to go to 6.0 but i had to much trouble.
Pain in the but but I was pretty rusty.
bonesnj0 said:
Such a great Phone in every way just got mine routed and boot unlocked 5.1 tried to go to 6.0 but i had to much trouble.
Pain in the but but I was pretty rusty.
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Did you end up getting on 6.0.1 unlocked?
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I have an Oreo ROM on my Nexus 6, and I would love to have Oreo on my Note 4 also.
That said, I get 2.5 days of light use of my Note 4 with a NEW battery when running MOROM... 1.5 days typical use. can kill the battery in a bit over 6 hours if I really try.. (full brightness screen, no screen timeout, BT and WIFI tethering data to my Android car stereo, while streaming audio)
I would think ambient display would help a lot. Any way to keep the display as much black as is possible reduces power consumption tremendously. Being able to reject calls from a locked screen (98% black) instead of lighting it up more helps. Love Oreo based 6ROM on my Nexus 6. no downsides.
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I also would like to see this with S-PEN functionally working with the Oreo 8.1 on the Note4 that would be entirely epic I have five Note4's laying here all with there own problems. I'm not joking. all of them are just sitting here I have to buy batteries for etc. besides the Note4 I believe might very well be the last smartphone to ever possess the infrared beaming for remote control for your home fireplaces TVs air conditioners etc. and like others have mentioned to boot removable battery the most important thing.
dyingjedi said:
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besides the Note4 I believe might very well be the last smartphone to ever possess the infrared beaming for remote control for your home fireplaces TVs air conditioners etc. and like others have mentioned to boot removable battery the most important thing.
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Xiaomi redmi 5 plus has both.
Isn't there an oreo port for other note 4's? just not verizon? Exynos I think?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...er-development/rom-crdroid-v4-0-beta-t3719777
All we need is one for the snapdragon platform...
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Isn't there an oreo port for other note 4's? just not verizon? Exynos I think?
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That is for a XiaoMi phone, not the samsung Note 4.

Asus zenfone 5z: Android P release date.

Does any one know when will this latest flagship from asus is about to get Android P.
As the direct compiters of this device is far ahead of the game in providing updates(but with my exp of using this device couple of days it's Sw is pretty stable).
As a android user I will be always eager to use latest updates from Google and see how the performance and innovation is getting improved.
My past exp with using custom roms is very bad and my openion in custom roms is full of bugs and instability.
Instead the device maifacturer has the competency to build and test the rom which is reliable enough. So depending on the OEM is far better. This is just my openion but unfortunately OEM's are not dependable and greedy these days due to completion and other things in market.
Bottom line when is the Android P expected to this device. Or in your openion should I shift to a good supplier who provides faster updates.
Thanks.
suraj051 said:
Does any one know when will this latest flagship from asus is about to get Android P.
As the direct compiters of this device is far ahead of the game in providing updates(but with my exp of using this device couple of days it's Sw is pretty stable).
As a android user I will be always eager to use latest updates from Google and see how the performance and innovation is getting improved.
My past exp with using custom roms is very bad and my openion in custom roms is full of bugs and instability.
Instead the device maifacturer has the competency to build and test the rom which is reliable enough. So depending on the OEM is far better. This is just my openion but unfortunately OEM's are not dependable and greedy these days due to completion and other things in market.
Bottom line when is the Android P expected to this device. Or in your openion should I shift to a good supplier who provides faster updates.
Thanks.
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If you want faster updates, go for Oneplus. For Asus, I read thorugh somewhere P upgrade will be in Q4 2018
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If you want faster updates, go for Oneplus. For Asus, I read thorugh somewhere P upgrade will be in Q4 2018
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Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
Why are people so hung up on the getting the newest update immediately? There are usually bugs that need to be worked out, such as the Android P fast charging bug.
I'd rather get it a little later after it's smoothed out.
I'm expecting it at end of Q4/18.
suraj051 said:
Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
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This is not a flagship from asus point of view. They treat ROG series as one
suraj051 said:
Thanks for replying.
Let me think. I am a bit worried as I have a latest flagship from asus but running 8.0 still
Anyway thanks.
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Dude calm down. My LG V20 still has Android 7.0

Custom ROM's

So, I decided to root my Pixel 3XL and jump back into custom ROM's I haven't done it for years. What ROM currently available it the closest to plain AOSP without too many extrase, that has the most development? strange request, I know, but I would like to have the most pure AOSP ROM I can find.
jmartin72 said:
So, I decided to root my Pixel 3XL and jump back into custom ROM's I haven't done it for years. What ROM currently available it the closest to plain AOSP without too many extrase, that has the most development? strange request, I know, but I would like to have the most pure AOSP ROM I can find.
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AOiSP is pretty nice and DU is good too. But the 1st is closer to what you are looking for and both are updated regularly. DU (Dirty Unicorns) you will have to google. I haven't tried the others but from the descriptions they are the most I was interested in.
Shockingly, it seems the ROM scene is nearly dead, which is sad Right now, there's what 5 ROM's or less for the Pixel 3 XL ? This is Google's flagship top of the line device, there used to be dozens of ROM's for the Nexus phones back in the day. Really bums me out how the smartphone scene has died off in regards to rooting and ROM'ing, and don't even get me started on the DEAD Jailbreak scene too, JB's are practically done for iPhone's, which those phone desperately need, as stock iOS is pure sh!tt.
What happened to the good old days, of buying a T-Mobile Note II, or a AT&T S4 and rooting and ROM'ing the same day you unpackaged it.
I have found that in the end, I go back to stock rooted. The custom ROMs are basically stock, with a few other customization options added.
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I have found that in the end, I go back to stock rooted. The custom ROMs are basically stock, with a few other customization options added.
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I used to try just about any and every ROM that came along, but stock Android has evolved to the point that I'm quite happy with it. As long as I can root for Substratum, Pie, and Adaway that's pretty much all I need. Plus, all the stock features work as well. i.e the charging stand, etc.
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Shockingly, it seems the ROM scene is nearly dead, which is sad Right now, there's what 5 ROM's or less for the Pixel 3 XL ? This is Google's flagship top of the line device, there used to be dozens of ROM's for the Nexus phones back in the day. Really bums me out how the smartphone scene has died off in regards to rooting and ROM'ing, and don't even get me started on the DEAD Jailbreak scene too, JB's are practically done for iPhone's, which those phone desperately need, as stock iOS is pure sh!tt.
What happened to the good old days, of buying a T-Mobile Note II, or a AT&T S4 and rooting and ROM'ing the same day you unpackaged it.
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I had an AT&T Galaxy SII Skyrocket that was stock for all of about 10 minutes. Those were fun times!
stock rooted FTW
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So, I decided to root my Pixel 3XL and jump back into custom ROM's I haven't done it for years. What ROM currently available it the closest to plain AOSP without too many extrase, that has the most development? strange request, I know, but I would like to have the most pure AOSP ROM I can find.
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Since you haven't installed a Custom ROM in "years". this guide might help: [Guide] Pixel 3 XL Android 9.0 (Pie) Unlock/Root/Install Images/Kernels/Recovery + by homeboy76
#11 has links to the Custom ROMs for the Pixel 3 XL.
The goods old days... However, at a time when most devices can't even be rooted or unlocked anymore, having root and a few ROMs is all we can hope for. Coming from a locked down tmo Samsung Note 8 this is a dream to me.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
jmartin72 said:
So, I decided to root my Pixel 3XL and jump back into custom ROM's I haven't done it for years. What ROM currently available it the closest to plain AOSP without too many extrase, that has the most development? strange request, I know, but I would like to have the most pure AOSP ROM I can find.
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AOISP really good and pretty stable.
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Zorachus said:
Shockingly, it seems the ROM scene is nearly dead, which is sad Right now, there's what 5 ROM's or less for the Pixel 3 XL ? This is Google's flagship top of the line device, there used to be dozens of ROM's for the Nexus phones back in the day. Really bums me out how the smartphone scene has died off in regards to rooting and ROM'ing, and don't even get me started on the DEAD Jailbreak scene too, JB's are practically done for iPhone's, which those phone desperately need, as stock iOS is pure sh!tt.
What happened to the good old days, of buying a T-Mobile Note II, or a AT&T S4 and rooting and ROM'ing the same day you unpackaged it.
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Im not bias to either platform, Jailbreaking is still alive, and stock iOS is actually pretty rock solid. it's very stable and runs smoother than android. I own both phones, I can tell you from experience that iOS is much more polished than pie.
malek777 said:
AOISP really good and pretty stable.
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Im not bias to either platform, Jailbreaking is still alive, and stock iOS is actually pretty rock solid. it's very stable and runs smoother than android. I own both phones, I can tell you from experience that iOS is much more polished than pie.
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iOS is a train wreck especially the notifications. compared to Pie, using it is like trying to run under water.
jmartin72 said:
iOS is a train wreck especially the notifications. compared to Pie, using it is like trying to run under water.
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Totally agree. I like Apple's hardware, they make and design a beautiful looking smartphone with great hardware, but iOS ugh
no back button, notifications suck, no dark mode, widgets suck, the same grid full of app icons, like from 2007, that still in 2019, 12 years later, you are not allowed to move and place anywhere on the screen you would like. A phone call comes in, and takes up the entire screen, kicking you out of what you were doing. Still no T9 dialer. No AoD ( Always on Display )
Zorachus said:
Totally agree. I like Apple's hardware, they make and design a beautiful looking smartphone with great hardware, but iOS ugh
no back button, notifications suck, no dark mode, widgets suck, the same grid full of app icons, like from 2007, that still in 2019, 12 years later, you are not allowed to move and place anywhere on the screen you would like. A phone call comes in, and takes up the entire screen, kicking you out of what you were doing. Still no T9 dialer. No AoD ( Always on Display )
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I agree that Apples chip set that they have in the iPhone is miles ahead of the Snap Dragon. You are also right the software is stuck in time. It really hasn't changed much since the first iPhone.
Zorachus said:
no back button
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Not sure if you saw the XDA article that Android Q may replace the back button with a gesture.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-gestures-back-button/
sliding_billy said:
Not sure if you saw the XDA article that Android Q may replace the back button with a gesture.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-gestures-back-button/
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This makes my insides hurt
jmartin72 said:
This makes my insides hurt
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Yeah, mine too. I just realized I typed a smile instead of a frown. Fixed now.
I get rid of the stock buttons anyway. With Pie I get the traditional buttons at the touch of my finger.

Why is there no Lineage ROM for our device?

i know i can try to build it myself, but this isnt a demanding question... im simply asking like why is it that other devices even have unofficial builds but we dont?? is there some king of limitation that prevents it to be built fir pixel 3 xl???
i42o said:
i know i can try to build it myself, but this isnt a demanding question... im simply asking like why is it that other devices even have unofficial builds but we dont?? is there some king of limitation that prevents it to be built fir pixel 3 xl???
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Cause LOS sucks
Golf c said:
Cause LOS sucks
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thanks
Golf c said:
Cause LOS sucks
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If it sucks, then why do so many other devices have it and we don't?
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IMO and experience.
The only time I have turned to Lineage to to overcome the shortcomings of an adulterated Android.
Samsung, OnePlus, are the only 2 that come to mind.
Rooted Pure Android from Google is pretty much perfrect for me and I cant think of enough improvements that Linage could offer to make it my daily driver.
Golf c said:
Cause LOS sucks
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Yet, without it, there would be far less ROMs on XDA
LineageOS seems pretty great to me when I use it on devices that don't come with relatively stock Android. Don't see the need for it on Pixels since it already offers pretty much stock Android, unless you want to run without Google apps or something or you want support after Google stops supporting it(end of 2021). Don't even run twrp now. Just patch the boot.img monthly.
BoboBrazil said:
LineageOS seems pretty great to me when I use it on devices that don't come with relatively stock Android. Don't see the need for it on Pixels since it already offers pretty much stock Android, unless you want to run without Google apps or something or you want support after Google stops supporting it(end of 2021). Don't even run twrp now. Just patch the boot.img monthly.
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Right, Lineage is the "other" Android experience, most of the ROMs on XDA are Lineage based and there's nothing wrong with that, lol

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