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NExus factory images live today. We are suppse to get it but end of this year or start of next. Is anyone out there planning on porting this maybe to both models of our phone? Im on Z008 Just curious

cell2011 said:
NExus factory images live today. We are suppse to get it but end of this year or start of next. Is anyone out there planning on porting this maybe to both models of our phone? Im on Z008 Just curious
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If the source code isn't released we can't do anything. So it's probably not even the dev's fault as much as it is Google's.
All we can do is wait.

cell2011 said:
NExus factory images live today. We are suppse to get it but end of this year or start of next. Is anyone out there planning on porting this maybe to both models of our phone? Im on Z008 Just curious
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news...
Ports assume the two devices (the base device, and the one to port to) are very similar (same chipset, et cetera). A good example (I used to use HTC) is the Sensation was a very good base for the MyTouch 4G Slide (they even shared the same battery design/size).
Unfortunately the Zenfone 2 and either of the new Nexus devices are worlds apart from each other. They don't share the same architecture, let alone chipset. We would be better off piggybacking off the work of the ASUS Fonepad 7 FE375CG (Z3560 Chipset) or the Asus Memo Pad 8 ME581CL (Z3580) - but in reality, in terms of updates - it's more likely we would be the base for those devices in a few months time.
Sorry.
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AkiroX said:
If the source code isn't released we can't do anything. So it's probably not even the dev's fault as much as it is Google's.
All we can do is wait.
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That's right, all we can do is wait, then build from source once available.
Porting has it's place, but it can be a gong-show.

Source already available
We should wait for devs to build it ?

AL_IRAQI said:
Source already available
We should wait for devs to build it ?
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AOSP is available, but now we have to wait to have CM13 in a manageable state. I don't imagine cpalmer and jrior001 will put on the brakes with CM12.1 to build straight from AOSP.
ROMe wasn't built in a day, and it will be months before CyanogenMod will be able to have the AOSP source modified for the new CM13 and reach the coveted milestone one.

Yap, waiting for you too @joel.maxuel for working on it

allasca said:
Yap, waiting for you too @joel.maxuel for working on it
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Why am I being thrown under the bus? :silly:
In all seriousness, if CarbonROM continues to base their stuff off of CM (which I heard talk of that changing), this time around they may be once again months behind CM in terms of an official product (e.g, none of their devices have hit official status yet this round, or at least as of last night).
Not to speak ill of course, which is why I am curious of the route that does not involve basing off of CyanogenMod.
No guarantees with my involvement to 6.0, but I am interested in the job. I just can't predict what my life demands are going to be like in the spring (time seems tight right now, but I manage).
My short and medium term plans is to keep the 5.1 builds going, hopefully even after Carbon calls it quits for this branch to focus on the new one. The only possible things stopping me are:
Carbon leaves lp5.1.1 branch perfect, meaning I don't even have to do monthlies anymore (also means no future security issues)
CyanogenMod breaks their sources badly (has happened recently when Carbon couldn't keep up)
I get the official stock 6.0 image which ends up breaking modem usage - leaving me unable to properly downgrade to 5.1 to test
It feels like with this plan, someone is going to beat me to the punch by building a CarbonROM mm-6.0 ahead of me. Which is why at some point, I will (probably) be doing builds in parallel. But we shall see when we get there.

Just read this: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/android-6-0-marshmallow-thoroughly-reviewed/
Doesn't seem much for us CM12.1 users to get very excited about anyway. Material design not changed from Lollipop, Google Now launcher already updated with the changes, selectable app permissions already included in CM12.1 via Privacy Guard, fingerprint api and 4K display stuff irrelevant to our zenfones...
Personally, I think a stable CM12.1 (5.1.1) build is more important. In fact, the unofficial build we already have is stable and very nearly there, but I would rather see the last few kinks ironed out and official status before any time is put into 6.0

Most importantly, it should support 64bit for the z00a. Any news on this?
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The next month, asus update android 5.1 for zenfine 2, maybe 6.0 ? I don't know this,

Is one ever too old for a quality phone?

I hope not, because I just upgraded my 72 year old mother from a Nexus 5 to a OnePlus 3. Well, it's on the way.
I may not modify anything on the phone. However, I do have a question: Does OnePlus update their phones to the latest versions of Android often, regularly, or will she be lucky to see updates at all?
Thanks!

wvcadle said:
I hope not, because I just upgraded my 72 year old mother from a Nexus 5 to a OnePlus 3. Well, it's on the way.
I may not modify anything on the phone. However, I do have a question: Does OnePlus update their phones to the latest versions of Android often, regularly, or will she be lucky to see updates at all?
Thanks!
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Yes they update their phones fast.Op3 will run Android Nougat .edit.I mean faster than,let s say,Samsung.man o war is right.

JoshDaWhite said:
Yes they update their phones fast.Op3 will run Android Nougat .
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They are generally quite good regarding monthly security updates.
Regarding new android versions, it's not exactly the same. Oh, they will definitely update the OP3 to Android Nougat. Android O won't be out and you'll already have Nougat on your phone ! Amazing ! So fast ! :laugh:
Oneplus are certainly not the best regarding updates but they are probably not the worst.
Don't expect fast updates like Nexus.

Monthly updates are nice, if there're bugs , you may get 2-3 update per month. You surely get the Android N update, but with my experiences with OP1 and 2, you will have to wait 3-4 months after nexus, simply because you are running on a custom android- Oxygen( quite nice now) so they are worth waiting.
and remember you always have HUGE deverlop community here, OP forum &chinese forums( which you could have strange ROMs port ) , so dont afraid ,

_Man0waR_ said:
They are generally quite good regarding monthly security updates.
Regarding new android versions, it's not exactly the same. Oh, they will definitely update the OP3 to Android Nougat. Android O won't be out and you'll already have Nougat on your phone ! Amazing ! So fast ! :laugh:
Oneplus are certainly not the best regarding updates but they are probably not the worst.
Don't expect fast updates like Nexus.
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The OP3 is a shift for them. I think they're potentially going to change the game up on their whole paradigm simply based on the success of this phone. The public and media seem to be pretty fond of the OP3 at present, and Oneplus will need to maintain that momentum and keep their client base happy. If they're smart, they'll push Android M no later than Q4 of this year.

Will OnePlus continue OP3 support??

After the release of the OP3T, OnePlus has decided to discontinue sales of the OP3 according to Android authority. http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-3-officially-discontinued-us-europe-729580/
Could this mean that sooner or later, they might drop the support of the OP3 due to how they have to work on updates for both phones? They have slightly different specs so that might mean they have to work on two different sets of updates right?

There is slight difference in OP3 and OP3T, basically in Soc. OP3T will obviously require different drivers etc and they definitely will not care for the older one. You know what, they have released 7 beta updated for OP3 but nothing worth noticeable is there in these updates except their try to push own bloatware. Some of the OEM have updated their devices to nougat but not Oneplus. If LG can make their device updated to nougat out of the box then why not Oneplus. If they release nougat for OP3 than it will have negative impact on sale of OP3T which they never let happen. They will be updating OP3T to nougat and OP3 will get it after few months

drnajmu said:
There is slight difference in OP3 and OP3T, basically in Soc. OP3T will obviously require different drivers etc and they definitely will not care for the older one. You know what, they have released 7 beta updated for OP3 but nothing worth noticeable is there in these updates except their try to push own bloatware. Some of the OEM have updated their devices to nougat but not Oneplus. If LG can make their device updated to nougat out of the box then why not Oneplus. If they release nougat for OP3 than it will have negative impact on sale of OP3T which they never let happen. They will be updating OP3T to nougat and OP3 will get it after few months
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Both devices get Nougat this year. According to their stream updates will be brought out sameoutaniously. Also the OP2 and OPx will get Nougat but not this year.

Demian3112 said:
Both devices get Nougat this year. According to their stream updates will be brought out simultaneously. Also the OP2 and OPx will get Nougat but not this year.
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The OPX will not get official Nougat as the 801 doesn't pass Google's certification as Qualcomm is not updating the drivers to support OpenGL ES 3.1.

quite disappointed on how quickly OP decided to destroy its great public image made after release of OP3...

lel, what did you guys expect from "LYING CARL" ? You can't trust a single word this guy says.

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lel, what did you guys expect from "LYING CARL" ? You can't trust a single word this guy says.
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Absolutely true

Don't speculate. Wait and see.
OP are vastly smaller than LG or Samsung, there isn't simply the quantity of devices out there as OP can't manufacture that many. So they're taking advantage of the newer hardware and quickly updating to the newest CPU, rather than continuing to manufacture devices on older hardware. This is why OP3 has been discontinued.
Software-wise, again, they don't have the development team to get Nougat out to us 'RIGHT NOW', but we've been promised it by the end of the year on both devices. I've been very pleased with the amount of updates and community builds so far.
OP4 will hit probably six months from now and that maybe an incremental update again, unless we see a snapdragon 830 or something!

Buying HTC 10 in 2018. Makes sense for use next 2 years?

Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.

fuzzychicken said:
Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.
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HTC 10 is a good phone but I think it's not worth buying in 2018, because you will never have much support or updates in stock and with custom rom you will see a dying project.
That is my opinion

There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812

scutworker said:
There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812
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there is someone on the xda discord who has a booting p rom for the htc 10

Dont buy this phone at all .... buy Chinese phone like xiaomi redmi note 5 pro ..... Chinese phone has more active developers than this phone.....htc 10 threads died already or will die soon.

aligh2014 said:
Dont buy this phone at all .... buy Chinese phone like xiaomi redmi note 5 pro ..... Chinese phone has more active developers than this phone.....htc 10 threads died already or will die soon.
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Maybe, maybe not....if Fagyi solves a few problems then we will have Oreo fully working and maybe even Pie.
But this all comes down to one person. If you want a device with active development by multiple people with multiple ROMS, then you should look elsewhere.

scutworker said:
There is currently an unofficial LineageOS Oreo version which has most things working apart from the woofter (the bottom loudspeaker) and the chap creating that, fagyi, is also working on Lineageos pie version as well. If he pulls it off, you will have Oreo and also pie for the HTC10. He seems dedicated, and has done fantastic things so far, but there is no guarantee. It might be, it never works OK.
Apart from him, there are NO other ports of pie, and the development of them never even started.
Is it a good phone? Yep, it is. I think it is great and am using LineageOs Nougat, which works fine. But I can only recommend it IF you are prepared to take the risk that the LineageOS version above will work out and then become official.
As for HTC, there is no hope. They released a rather rushed version of Oreo out and that's that.
The thread of the Nougat and Pie version is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...lineageos-15-1-unofficial-builds-pme-t3808812
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LineageOS Nougat works fine on HTC 10? Woofer is ok? I have downgraded my 10 from Oreo to Nougat and battery performance is quite better!

harvey1483 said:
LineageOS Nougat works fine on HTC 10? Woofer is ok? I have downgraded my 10 from Oreo to Nougat and battery performance is quite better!
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LineageOS Nougat (official version) works just fine on HTC 10 and the woofer works as it should.

HTC 10 have great hardware but HTC device software support management is absolutely worthless. HTC is ruining their costumers loyalty. They are supporting devices only one year long.
After official release Android 8.0 battery life is catastrophical, but HTC coorporation is not doing anything to fix that. That's why HTC 10 is my last device from HTC.
Better choose other manufacturers.

fuzzychicken said:
Hello folks,
Looking for a sub-$200 phone with decent hardware and enough XDA support for the updates.
HTC 10 hardware seems decent for the price available (around $160). I checked the threads but I am not too sure if there is enough support for this device on the board. I could not locate any 'upcoming' pie thread. So I am curious if there is any support for this device on the board that makes it worth spending $160 for this device.
If it does,
What version is the best? My goal is to get unlocked version but if I don't find it and have to go for a carrier labeled, which one should I get (which one I must avoid). I am on at&t.
Many thanks in advance.
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I bought the 10 earlier this year as a stop gap after my Pixel died. I was keen to wait for the Pixel 3 as the 2 didn't do it for me.
The handset itself is nice enough, camera is just ok and the battery life with Oreo is truly awful. Thankfully Quick Charge makes it useable. Screen is good, but not as punch as amoled.
Depends on your requirements, the handset does have more or less everything, but I compared app speed against a Huawei 3e and it was faster to launch apps like facebook and linkedin.

I agree; I think the hardware is fantastic and the phone is robust unlike a lot of new glass phones.
I also prefer a LCD screen over amoled, so that's good too.
But the software is dreadful and it's completely unacceptable to drop support after such a short period of time. Just look at Apple who released ios12 this week for iPhone 6 released in 2014!
My HTC 10 is going well on LineageOS 14 (Nougat) and hopefully Fagyi on these forums will get Oreo or Pie working one day which will add life to this old phone. But if he can't then I will be stuck with outdated software on my phone.
In any case, this will be my last phone from HTC.....

Android 10 update

Any ideas if Samsung finally will update Android on their phones including the new Note 10/10+ fast this year? P30 Pro will have acces to Android Q Beta this September...any news for the Note?
Was a reason i moved away from Samsung phones, i really like the Note 10 + and i really want to purchase it but, can't stand waiting month for the new Android version...
So what you think?

Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest

winol said:
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
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A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me

Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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If timely OS updates is high on your priority list, you bought the wrong phone.
I have owned the Note5, Note7, Note8, and Note9. I recall the Note 8 update to Oreo occurred the April after it was released, and the Note9 Pie update occurred in February after it was released (carrier versions, anyway). So you're looking at Q1 2020 for the update.
However, half the time the Android updates contain things that Samsung has already had in their software for a year or two, so... it's not that big a deal. That said, I still am always super excited when it happens (so I get it).

I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.

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I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
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Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything

torickray said:
Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
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You are missing Android 10

really if you care about the android updates as soon as possible just go to a Pixel device. on the other hand just buy a phone you like and get the updates when they come, an android update doesn't really change a lot, a lot of what is added to the base android are features that are common among third parties, so for a device from a manufacturer like Samsung all the android update means is you get a bigger number and some of the phones features move from the Samsung UI to base Android.

Hazzay88 said:
You are missing Android 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.

Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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Software is important for EVERYBODY, what I tried to tell you is this: if you like/want a note10 device, it works fine as it is, it will update in due course, if the updates are your most uttmost concern, then a pixel would be the perfect choice for you, it is well known that samsung is never the first to issue updates, knowing this, better get something else

After seeing the YouTube video of One UI 2.0 over Android 10, I can't see anything that exciting. Android 9 (RIP desserts) runs great, and 10 looked like a very incremental update.

Just enjoy your phone you just got it . Q will come orob will get 10 and 11 . Let's get 9 working good before we think of getting 10

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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
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You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late

Hazzay88 said:
You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.

Belimawr said:
there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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I had the Pixel 2 XL and when the update came through my battery life improved which was already good but improvement in any department is good.

Why should you come to this forum and complain about Samsung update when you know how they work?
We all know the update will take some time to be available since the moment we buy it. We like this phone not because of the google update that we eventually will get, but because of the features that not available even with latest google update.
You should buy pixel and iphone then. Or huawei.

Exactly

I've only had one recent "need" for an android upgrade(Wireless android auto), just to find out that after we got it that google had restricted the feature to google devices. After 6 months of google claiming it was the Samsung's issue, even though no other brands worked either, they came out with a "beta" that enabled Wireless AA on other devices, no patches from samsung required.
There are so few important updates in Android these days, it's the least of my concerns.