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I've been looking to see if there was a front loading camera, using the usb connection. It seems logical, that an add on camera to the Captivate, exists. And using it to film, on a usb wired connection, makes sense. However, I must not be able to correctly identify what I'm looking for. So far, a cheap, small wireless security camera, is the best I've found at Amazon. Does anyone know of a product that exists, that would be an add on, to let you communicate with others, face to face, from the front of the Captivate? I love the camera, it's just not too handy, not having a front facing camera. Thanks.
The captivate doesn't support being used as a usb host, and there is no phone addon cameras, I've looked. But google "one more face"...looks promising if some one would buy the"project"
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The processor natively supports USB OTG (On the go). OTG is a relatively new standard and not too many people have test equipment for it, much less devices.... to my knowledge there is nothing available now. However, there may be something soon.
Don't you need a new jig to enable usb otg?
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[Q] Captivate has no front side camera.
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It really depends on how you hold it.... or what you call the front.
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Don't you need a new jig to enable usb otg?
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No. You need a jig to hack otg. You short pins 4&5. That says to the phone, "this is an otg device". OTG is a usb standard for mobile devices to communicate with other mobile devices... camera to phone, or phone to thumb drive.
oh so the usb device would have to be otg compatible.. right?
when the cappy came out i thought it would be cool to make a ffc with a flash on the backside but noone had the knowledge to figure out how to do it. now im looking at getting another phone, not that i need one but i want to give the cappy to my brother.
adam you are just full of knowledge aren't you? well i hope a mobile usb camera becomes a reality even if i wont need it.
I just got to thinking about the USB port and cameras. I realized that it should be possible to rig a flash by using a 619kohm resistor across pins 4 and 5 on the USB port, and an LED between tx and ground, then sending 0xFF repeatedly to the /dev/ttyACM0 ( you have to mknod that device and reboot for it to work). Just thought I'd share that. I know it's a bit off topic, but hey.. it would be a cool addition to the camera.
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I just got to thinking about the USB port and cameras. I realized that it should be possible to rig a flash by using a 619kohm resistor across pins 4 and 5 on the USB port, and an LED between tx and ground, then sending 0xFF repeatedly to the /dev/ttyACM0 ( you have to mknod that device and reboot for it to work). Just thought I'd share that. I know it's a bit off topic, but hey.. it would be a cool addition to the camera.
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lol you got that in english? Haha. Man I takes me a tech dictionary to understand half of your posts
Hopefully someone will understand that better than I do and make us a sweet little camera
adam you are just full of knowledge aren't you?
"I just got to thinking about the USB port and cameras. I realized that it should be possible to rig a flash by using a 619kohm resistor across pins 4 and 5 on the USB port, and an LED between tx and ground, then sending 0xFF repeatedly to the /dev/ttyACM0 ( you have to mknod that device and reboot for it to work). Just thought I'd share that."
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lol, ill take that as a yes.
an alternative to the usb camera would be a bluetooth camera. they make heasets with cameras so you can record what you see, im sure a product exists where you could fabricate a clip for the phone and communicate over bluetooth.
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I just got to thinking about the USB port and cameras. I realized that it should be possible to rig a flash by using a 619kohm resistor across pins 4 and 5 on the USB port, and an LED between tx and ground, then sending 0xFF repeatedly to the /dev/ttyACM0 ( you have to mknod that device and reboot for it to work). Just thought I'd share that. I know it's a bit off topic, but hey.. it would be a cool addition to the camera.
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i actually was thinking of that one stoney night, googling around looking for just a flash, it wouldnt be hard to rig up, the hardest part would be getting the timing down, unless its used as a "back light" rather than a flash.
but you would be the guy to do it,
We need more Cameras!
I too would love to see someone rig up a flash or a camera for the usb! it seeme illogical to me that mobile devices dont have more use for micro usb ports, seems easy to imagine a whole host of different attachment devices.
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an external "take picture" button would be nice too...
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an external "take picture" button would be nice too...
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Several ROMs have the power button function changed to capture a picture when the camera app is on...
I guess when you search for things, sometimes you find a 'maybe'. Looking on Amazon for some type of add on camera, to make up for the non front, I found this. It's called
'Mini Wireless Color Camera with Microphone', and sells for $31.35, and acts somewhat like a security camera, but it's small, wireless, have 150 foot range, built in mike, and has full color full motion, and a few other things as well. It says can be used for presentations and interviews. That said, isn't a front facing camera, used for that purpose, as well? I have an expensive network security camera, that I use to protect my belongings, and in truth, I can monitor it very well, from my Captivate. So, if this little fellow I found half way works, set it near by, and when you feel like chatting face to face, go at it. No need to hold your cell phone up, to do it with. Without trying it, it's hard to know the quality resolution you'd have, but for less than $32.00? Might be worth a shot. It's on Amazon, made by Generic, if anyone wants to look at it.
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I guess when you search for things, sometimes you find a 'maybe'. Looking on Amazon for some type of add on camera, to make up for the non front, I found this. It's called
'Mini Wireless Color Camera with Microphone', and sells for $31.35, and acts somewhat like a security camera, but it's small, wireless, have 150 foot range, built in mike, and has full color full motion, and a few other things as well. It says can be used for presentations and interviews. That said, isn't a front facing camera, used for that purpose, as well? I have an expensive network security camera, that I use to protect my belongings, and in truth, I can monitor it very well, from my Captivate. So, if this little fellow I found half way works, set it near by, and when you feel like chatting face to face, go at it. No need to hold your cell phone up, to do it with. Without trying it, it's hard to know the quality resolution you'd have, but for less than $32.00? Might be worth a shot. It's on Amazon, made by Generic, if anyone wants to look at it.
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you say wireless, is it wifi? bluetooth? or radio frequency? if it is wifi or bluetooth we might have something.
The camera I was speaking of, is found here, along with others
http://www.amazon.com/Mini-Wireless...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1305632158&sr=1-1
and it's the first choice, which I noticed was about $1.50 less, than I noticed it was. It comes with what is mentioned, and the third, for a little over $50, has more to it, than the cheaper one. Basically, these are security camera systems, but are so small, could fit into the front camera strategy, for those like us, that bought a great smart phone, that WAS BUILT DUMB, without a front facing camera. Devices like these, open areas that might benefit us, if we think on it.
That camera is not designed to hook up to anything besides it's base station. The base station provides an incompatible A/V output. You'd have more luck with a webcam.
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-kills-keyboard-dock-for-galaxy-tabs-11268778/
So thats why we never got note 10.1 keyboard in US.
I still fancied the dock....
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I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
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I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
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I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Too bad, the idea of a keyboard dock that also charged seemed good
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I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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my playbook, and my note 2 use 2 amp chargers. I just lucked or on the 30 pin connector because I had a mini usb to 30 pin connector for my tab 2 7.0, and an extra cable.
The tf300 was a dream to type on with the dock, but honestly, my note 10.1 kicks the crap out of it. The oem cover works great, with the exception of a lot of e's that come out 3.
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I had no idea that this was happening.
It would be awesome if Samsung could come up with a transformer-esque type of keyboard/cover, or even a touch-cover like the Surface.
It makes the idea of a "Note netbook/laptop" a good one, but with two separated accessories i.e. stand + bluetooth keyboard, that idea is gone.
Shame :/
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
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A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
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seriously though, the battery life on the note 10 is pretty good, I would like the extra peripherals, like the full size sd and usb ports on the transformer docks.
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The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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What I want is to travel without two toons of devices
Just one which does anything I need. And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
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What I want is to travel without two tons of devices ... And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
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This. I've been able to travel with only my tablet (on certain business trips even) and have most of what i'd needed to do be accessible that way.
I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab10.1. I tried it with the display model Tab 2 10.1 & it fit. I thought that the Tab 210.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not. It works if you pull out the plastic guide/holder, but then it is kind of flimsy in there. Bummer.
Wasnt there a rumor somewhere that one of Samsungs next tablets was going to be transformer-esque? I could have sworn I read something a few months ago about it.
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I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab 10.1 ... I thought that the Tab2 10.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not.
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Well, with the GNote 10.1 LTE coming to VZ soon, I'd expect they'd be getting accessories there, too (and likely to be hugely overpriced), so I'd come back again a little while after the GNote's available in VZ stores.
Tempted to grab one off ebay. What can I say, sometimes I get typity.
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The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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That sounds sort of narrow-minded in my opinion. Why can't a tablet be both or why can't a computer be a tablet? For an artist like me, I would love the opportunity if tablets got powerful enough to rival their notebook counterparts and offered a desktop view as well as for easy access with a keyboard and trackpad.
With the move of ultrabooks , especially the Surface Pro, converging into tablet territory with full features, one must consider that to be a blessing than a curse. Think about it in this way: Would you carry a radio, cd player , portable DVD player with TV, game system and an ereader just to be able to use them, or would you opt for the simpler solution of an all in one deal? That is the number one reason why the iPod took off: portability. Not only can you get a radio, but a music player and now video, games and reading.
It gets roughly cumbersome to carry every single CD, DVD ,game cart/disc in addition to the hardware , let alone the books for brief reading in commutes in comparison to an all out deal.
For the average consumer and artist, such things are so hard to get that it is pushed towards the rich ,but now similar tech now exists that has the potential to allow for maximal power and capability and the ability to change form factors on the fly. Why should people have to be inconvenienced to buying several different products that can be brought under one device when it can be deducted into one singular product that is amazing and does it all , broadly speaking?
If we went by this flawed logic an mp3 player must play music only, but no radio , thus how would iPods and whatnot be popular if they didn't serve multiple functions simply?
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
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Thanks.....I think. Glad to hear about the PDMI. Just have to figure out how to use it.
What I was trying too say is everything is an add on so my kit ends up being as bulky as my ultrabook and far more prone to losing some piece that makes the whole thing work. my last tablet logged about 100k+/- frequent flyer miles. Using one power brick with one power end, one multi headed usb, one multi headed hdmi, one universal battery charger brick fit neatly in an airplane amenity bag, and served two cameras, one phone and a tablet. Needed no OTG cable to get the CF card reader seen by the tablet. Because I have a GNex, I already have a data/sync switch on my usb cable.
The cameras are the hardest and heaviest to carry.
So far, I've had to add another amenity kit to add the adapters for the Note. And I still don't have a way of using it to run a projector or tv. My phone ends up doing that.
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Just bought one, stock is running out everywhere.
Time to think about soldering a split cable data/charging, and if that works hdmi.
Hope it's as nice as said, but returning is always an option in NL.:good:
I'm designing a dock for the N7v2 for use in a car. It will have Qi wireless charging and Bluetooth audio receiver, with a standard 3.5mm audio output. It should be compatible with most cases.
I am also currently designing a mounting method that should be close to universal between different cars, and should not fall off like most other docks in the market.
I designed one for the N7v1 using the Pogo pins, and I can never go back to not having a dock for my tablet in my car. It's amazing the difference it made for me.
I want to know a couple things.Please reply with the following template:
1. Would you want a dock like this?
2. How much do you expect to pay for it?
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I'm designing a dock for the N7v2 for use in a car. It will have Qi wireless charging and Bluetooth audio receiver. It should be compatible with most cases.
I am also currently designing a mounting method that should be close to universal between different cars, and should not fall off like most other docks in the market.
I designed one for the N7v1 using the Pogo pins, and I can never go back to not having a dock for my tablet in my car. It's amazing the difference it made for me.
I want to know a couple things.Please reply with the following template:
1. Would you want a dock like this?
2. How much do you expect to pay for it?
Thank you everyone, in advance!
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Sounds like a great idea. Do you have any links showing your work with N7v1? Heck, I may be interested in that version since the v1 tablet can be had for cheap these days and is more than capable for the limited functions needed in a car. At any rate:
1. yes, would be interested
2. no idea what a fair price would be, but $50-$100 seems like a fair ballpark
I would think very carefully why you need a wireless charger in a car.
Heat kills batteries; tablets in cars get hot. Why add heat to your woes?
The tablet is likely to be busy playing music and navigating, often in full sunlight. Why add to the heating problems by using a wireless charger when a 5v cord charger attached to the car supply will do the trick?
The wireless car mount/charger iterations for the Nexus 4 were a failure, I recall.
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Sounds like a great idea. Do you have any links showing your work with N7v1? Heck, I may be interested in that version since the v1 tablet can be had for cheap these days and is more than capable for the limited functions needed in a car. At any rate:
1. yes, would be interested
2. no idea what a fair price would be, but $50-$100 seems like a fair ballpark
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I've attached 4 pictures of the dock I made for the first Nexus 7. You'll notice that it inst exactly a dock you can put in just any car. I realized I made a little too rugged... and big!
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I would think very carefully why you need a wireless charger in a car.
Heat kills batteries; tablets in cars get hot. Why add heat to your woes?
The tablet is likely to be busy playing music and navigating, often in full sunlight. Why add to the heating problems by using a wireless charger when a 5v cord charger attached to the car supply will do the trick?
The wireless car mount/charger iterations for the Nexus 4 were a failure, I recall.
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Well, that's why I don't leave the tablet in the car, I keep it with me. While I'm in the car, if it's hot out I will have the A/C on anyways, so heat has not been an issue.
Most of my broken devices are dead because the USB port broke because of wear and tear. One of the points of this dock is to reduce that. Plugging in a device everytime I get in the car is partly to blame for such failures. I would have used Pogo Pins, like with the first Nexus 7, but they don't exist on the second.
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Most of my broken devices are dead because the USB port broke because of wear and tear. One of the points of this dock is to reduce that.
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Look at active Brodit car mounts - say for a Nexus 4. There the device is supported and aligned as it glides onto or off the USB. There is no possibility of twisting or yawing.
I think your proposal maybe over-kill - simplest solutions are always best IMHO. A guy in the Nexus 4 forum came to no good end and had a lot of unhappy 'subscribers'. Just saying.
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Look at active Brodit car mounts - say for a Nexus 4. There the device is supported and aligned as it glides onto or off the USB. There is no possibility of twisting or yawing.
I think your proposal maybe over-kill - simplest solutions are always best IMHO. A guy in the Nexus 4 forum came to no good end and had a lot of unhappy 'subscribers'. Just saying.
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I would normally agree. I was hoping to make one that doesnt require a case to be removed to use. I designed my previous dock the way you describe (except it used the Pogo pins on the side), but I always had to remove the case and eventually the first case was showing signs of damage from being removed so often.
My hope is that the base platform of the dock I want to build will be compatible with multiple models of smartphones and tablets that are Qi capable. That'll require a lot more planning, but may be worth it.
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My hope is that the base platform of the dock I want to build will be compatible with multiple models of smartphones and tablets that are Qi capable. That'll require a lot more planning, but may be worth it.
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Well if you're set on the route you've described; ... I see you've picked up on the Peltier pump in another thread. Credit me somewhere if you make it!
But I might consider an approach made by Philips in an Android Bluetooth Speaker and dock. The adjustment for USB and its placement on an edge, plus 180 degree rotation needed for some models, was catered for physically. A much cheaper approach which copes with tablets and phones!
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Well if you're set on the route you've described; ... I see you've picked up on the Peltier pump in another thread. Credit me somewhere if you make it!
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I think I will use a Peltier pump. And yes, I'll make sure you get credit for that idea I'll mount the transmitting coil onto the cold side (probably with a layer of copper in between, we'll try several things) and have the hot side of the pump mounted to the aluminum/sheet metal of the back plate (probably with thermal paste as well). I'll have the pump on a simple thermostat. Good thing I have an EE helping me with this project
Hopefully the final product won't need a Peltier pump, but I will definitely have it in the prototype.
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But I might consider an approach made by Philips in an Android Bluetooth Speaker and dock. The adjustment for USB and its placement on an edge, plus 180 degree rotation needed for some models, was catered for physically. A much cheaper approach which copes with tablets and phones!
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I haven't had very good experiences with using that type of dock The results of daily use tend to be USB ports that are stretched and loose. At least that's how it has been in my experience.
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I'll mount the transmitting coil onto the cold side (probably with a layer of copper in between, we'll try several things) and have the hot side of the pump mounted to the aluminum/sheet metal of the back plate (probably with thermal paste as well). I'll have the pump on a simple thermostat. Good thing I have an EE helping me with this project
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Don't forget to talk to your EE about eddy current loses in any conductors (copper, aluminium) you have nearby to your induction coil.
Interesting read, but with the cooler this is going to be a very expensive dock. Without it, look to Canada for your market.
I rigged up one for my Nexus 4 last Winter. Based on some testing, I used the most efficient charger I could find for that phone (the LG wcp-700). It worked very well... until late spring when the mercury broke 70. To make a long story short, I pulled it last month as the phone was getting too hot. This in a suv with a 4 liter v6 with plenty of air conditioning, front and rear.
Without the cooler, the tablet needs to be located directly in front of a vent, or even in moderate climates the unit will get hot enough to significantly reduce charging current.
One more thing to consider... the Nexus 7 is polarized vertically. This means that it is invisible in landscape orientation for anyone wearing polarized driving glasses, which I am willing to bet is a large percentage of your prospective market (tech savvy, auto enthusiasts). Most displays designed for vehicles are polarized at 45°, making this not such an issue.
While the tinkerer, software developer, and electronic geek in me wanted a fully integrated tablet in my truck, I soon came to the conclusion that it was simply not practical. What is really needed is a properly done appRadio, where a head unit can mirror the display of a mobile device (ideally wirelessly - miracast, etc.) with a control link set up to pass touches on the head unit back to the mobile device. We're about 30% there now, but a lack of standards, and major players wanting proprietary solutions is a problem.
I wish you much success with your endeavor, but just wanted to share my experience and feelings that this will not be all that marketable a product.
The problems you had with the nexus 4 does not necessarily effect the nexus 7. The nexus 4 was pretty terrible at wireless charging. I had a car setup with a qi charger with the lumia 920 and it worked great even in hot weather. I am not saying the nexus 7 will work, but it might.
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The nexus 4 was pretty terrible at wireless charging.
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What makes you say that? I ask as I have seen relatively similar performance with both the N7 and N4. The tricky thing about the N4 is that the coil is not centered in the vertical dimension, so for folks making the assumption that it is, there will be quite a bit of offset.
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What makes you say that? I ask as I have seen relatively similar performance with both the N7 and N4. The tricky thing about the N4 is that the coil is not centered in the vertical dimension, so for folks making the assumption that it is, there will be quite a bit of offset.
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I say that because of all the issues people had with car docks. It also had issues with the dt-900 qi chargers when it shouldn't have. It heated up excessively with most chargers.
I wonder if there will be an Official dock that lets you:
1. Charge
2. Expand TV HDMI out
3. USB port for Hard drive access
I really want the Nexus & FHD to be a Home entertainment player...may be a remote/ Or Kinect like gesture control app built in with the dock
Hope this comes true...it will be the best Combo for a home unit!
im waiting on my s4 mini, and I guess I should have asked this before I bought mine, but previously I bought an lg volt to test out the ir capabilities. it worked, but it kind of sucked as I had to point straight at the device in question. its not a deal breaker, but I was hoping that the s4 mini would be higher quality hardware, and that maybe the ir emitter works better in it? when using an apple remote, or tv remote, I can point almost anywhere, sometimes even the opposite direction, which was nice, as I didn't have to neccesarily point directly at the sensor.
again, not a deal breaker. just curious
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im waiting on my s4 mini, and I guess I should have asked this before I bought mine, but previously I bought an lg volt to test out the ir capabilities. it worked, but it kind of sucked as I had to point straight at the device in question. its not a deal breaker, but I was hoping that the s4 mini would be higher quality hardware, and that maybe the ir emitter works better in it? when using an apple remote, or tv remote, I can point almost anywhere, sometimes even the opposite direction, which was nice, as I didn't have to neccesarily point directly at the sensor.
again, not a deal breaker. just curious
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The IR on the S4 Mini works quite fine in a 90 degree range (45 on both sides) and does work beyond that also. To work in the opposite direction, there has to be a reflective surface and the angle should be right
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im waiting on my s4 mini, and I guess I should have asked this before I bought mine, but previously I bought an lg volt to test out the ir capabilities. it worked, but it kind of sucked as I had to point straight at the device in question. its not a deal breaker, but I was hoping that the s4 mini would be higher quality hardware, and that maybe the ir emitter works better in it? when using an apple remote, or tv remote, I can point almost anywhere, sometimes even the opposite direction, which was nice, as I didn't have to neccesarily point directly at the sensor.
again, not a deal breaker. just curious
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The IR blaster is unfortunately abit weak! I use it all the time for all my electronics at home, so it's of course usable. But you do need to point it pretty much straight on the receiver to get it to work.
osvanberg said:
The IR blaster is unfortunately abit weak! I use it all the time for all my electronics at home, so it's of course usable. But you do need to point it pretty much straight on the receiver to get it to work.
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Mine works fine
Which app are you using for the IR ?
gladson1976 said:
Mine works fine
Which app are you using for the IR ?
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Well mine workes fine as well, not just as powerful as I would like. Have tested many apps, there all the same in this regard. It's not the apps in this case, it's the HW. But I use "Smart IR Remote - Anymote" from Color Tiger! The app is a killer, the best!
osvanberg said:
Well mine workes fine as well, not just as powerful as I would like. Have tested many apps, there all the same in this regard. It's not the apps in this case, it's the HW. But I use "Smart IR Remote - Anymote" from Color Tiger! The app is a killer, the best!
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both of your replies seem to indicate that its not perfect, but probably better than the lg volt. kind of a bummer, but not a big deal. my guess would be that these ir emitters on devices as small as these just aren't big enough to blast the ir as well as a remote with a bigger window. still, as long as it works reliably when pointing at the screen, very nice.
osvanberg, when I get my s4 mini, im going to give smart ir remote a shot, but have you heard of or tried unified remote? the design is a little bland/flat, but I believe you can customize your own buttons. it also has a wide range of remotes for Bluetooth and wifi, as well as ir. since I don't have a device with ir just yet, I cant confirm, but it looks like you can actually teach unified remote specific button commands via ir. personally, im going to use this to essentially emulate all of my tv remote's buttons, as most ir apps tend to just emulate basic button commands, and sometimes you need the full remote. if unified remote app works for me, then I wont need to pull out my remote for certain situations (enabling 3d mode, for example)
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both of your replies seem to indicate that its not perfect, but probably better than the lg volt. kind of a bummer, but not a big deal. my guess would be that these ir emitters on devices as small as these just aren't big enough to blast the ir as well as a remote with a bigger window. still, as long as it works reliably when pointing at the screen, very nice.
osvanberg, when I get my s4 mini, im going to give smart ir remote a shot, but have you heard of or tried unified remote? the design is a little bland/flat, but I believe you can customize your own buttons. it also has a wide range of remotes for Bluetooth and wifi, as well as ir. since I don't have a device with ir just yet, I cant confirm, but it looks like you can actually teach unified remote specific button commands via ir. personally, im going to use this to essentially emulate all of my tv remote's buttons, as most ir apps tend to just emulate basic button commands, and sometimes you need the full remote. if unified remote app works for me, then I wont need to pull out my remote for certain situations (enabling 3d mode, for example)
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Yeah I think you're correct in your estimation.
No I haven't tried the specific app you mentions. But all I can say is that Smart IR Remote is fantastic! I have 100% functionality of ALL my buttons for my : Samsung TV, LG Dvd, Sony Blu-ray, Mede8er Steamer and my YAMAHA receiver/amplifier.
You can customize each bottom separately if you need - add what you want and delete what you don't need. Change apperence, colors, feedback, etc. You can also easily create your own macro commands and therefore combine many actions (ex. All electronics ON/OFF) in the action for one button.
There's also both IR and WiFi remotes to add. Many hundreds of thousands in total. And if one command is missing? Just inform the dev, in my case they added the (one) missing button on my Mede8er Streamer in just 2 days. So now I have every single button/command available! ?
osvanberg said:
Well mine workes fine as well, not just as powerful as I would like. Have tested many apps, there all the same in this regard. It's not the apps in this case, it's the HW. But I use "Smart IR Remote - Anymote" from Color Tiger! The app is a killer, the best!
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I use the "Galaxy Universal Remote" which works just as well for me
The Note 7 doesn't have an IR blaster... but it does have an IR LED that is used for the iris unlocking feature. I wonder if someone will be able to write an app that uses that as an IR blaster. Since it is front facing, it might be a challenge to use the screen and aim the blaster towards a device, but its better than nothing.
That would be great if possible
It would be pointless as you'd have to point the phone face forward (Back glass towards you, front display towards TV) to send a command to a TV, whereas when you point it faceforward, you can't see whats on the screen.
90° is also possible.
Would love this idea! I proposed it on a separate posting. I wear glasses, it's possible that my glasses can reflect the IR towards the TV/Device. =)
someone will hit a goldmine if they bring this idea to reality, I wouldn't mind checking the mirror to see if my fingers are hitting the correct buttons while my screen faces the TV
Actually, there would be no need for a mirror if one button was made per screen, so on and off button is big on the screen, swipe right to volume up and down, also you can use the hardware buttons like the volume up and down.
How about if you incorporated say a two second delay so that when you change a setting you then have time to point the IR at the tv etc. or keep sending the signal until you get the change you are after.
It's truly a crying freaking shame that we should even have to resort to this on a phone that is supposed to have "everything"! Samsung, in their infinite wisdom has apparently determined that an IR Blaster is no longer wanted or needed by the general public, but an iris scanner is so much more necessary and useful! (Peel remote app has 50M downloads on the Play Store... Go figure, Samsung).
I would LOVE if someone could figure out a way to utilize the iris scanner's IR light as an IR Blaster, even if the phone has to be held in a somewhat unorthodox manner to use it. At least then the iris scanner wouldn't be a complete loss for me, because I will NOT be using it for its intended purpose.
Kev
I'm using the Galaxy Note 3 to control my air-conditioner, TV, wall mounted Projector...... That wouldn't work after get this new released phone.
IR bounces off of walls so I think this would still work great without any awkward positioning as I used to use my IR blaster on the note 4 by bouncing it off of the ceiling almost 100 percent of the time. I'm definitely hopeful someone can figure this out!
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IR bounces off of walls so I think this would still work great without any awkward positioning as I used to use my IR blaster on the note 4 by bouncing it off of the ceiling almost 100 percent of the time. I'm definitely hopeful someone can figure this out!
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I was writing that when I saw your post.
Note 7 IR
That would be awesome!, i rarely use the IR blaster in my phone but when i use it is because i really need it and that makes me really happy, so is a shame that is not present on the Note 7, and just an idea but since the IRIS scanner will send and receive a signal maybe just maybe if some smart guy get this to work as a IR remote, could it potentially also learn codes from a remote controller? Don't know if technically possible but i have to dream a little.
I think this would maybe be possible with a rooted app, but for some reason I doubt they will release any api changes to allow control of the IR LED
The other samsung phone had ir blaster and no one use them. They ended up gettog removed. I doybt samsung will bring it back. Also believe the iris led is different from the normal remote ir
Sorry guys, the iris/camera IR is a completely different type of IR laser. Doing this would be like turning the back flash into an IR laser. Its not happening.
I hate the fact that they removed the IR blaster from Samsung phones, but rather than trying to figure out a way to make the iris scanner work which I dont think is possible, you guys can make your own IR blaster, or just order one off eBay for $1.00 USD.
here is the item number for one to type into eBay.
262417705324
You wouldnt have to hold it in an akward position because IR works in almost any way you could be holding it. It just bounces off the walls or something. I dont know how it works, but i can turn on my TV even if i hold my HTC One M9 in the opposite dirrection.
But yeah, i think somebody could probably make that work.
i'd be down for an IR blaster to use in the 3.5mm port if they could make it smaller, like the "pressy" accessory that was on kickstarter a couple years ago. What they have currently is just too big, and from what the auction says, it looks like you have to use a specific app to get it to work. Does anyone know if using the app mentioned in the ebay listing is mandatory? Or if we can use any IR remote app?
only way to get sammy to put this back in future phones is to get a group to write them directly or to start a petitition. Petitions mostly don't do anything so in order to pique sammy's interest, it would have to be a large number of signatures... not sure how many people usually get with online petitions, but i wonder what number would be noticeable for sammy to at least think about it.
[1QUOTE=Pops_G;68018323]The Note 7 doesn't have an IR blaster... but it does have an IR LED that is used for the iris unlocking feature. I wonder if someone will be able to write an app that uses that as an IR blaster. Since it is front facing, it might be a challenge to use the screen and aim the blaster towards a device, but its better than nothing.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone know how the ir led is powered and or have scamatics im thinking its a simple on off circuit with no way of carrying anything usefull but i could be wrong im just guessing