Can you update memory fix and keep AndroidPay? - OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers

So, in order to utilise the memory on the OP3, you need to root in order to update values to allow this.
But this invalidates the ability to use Android Pay by rooting the device.
Is there a workaround for this? (another website talked about disabling SuperSu, but does this work???)

You should be able to boot TWRP, adb pull the file you need to modify, make the changes and then adb push and set permissions. The only thing you need in order to do this is an unlocked bootloader.

Yeah doing it via adb worked for me. Here's what I did.
Opened terminal on Mac.
Entered: adb pull build.prop /system/build.prop
Opened the file via a text editor, made the desired changes.
Back to terminal. Entered: adb push build.prop /system/build.prop
Entered: adb reboot
And that's it.

What are the appropriate changes?
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Nevermind..http://m.gsmarena.com/tweak_helps_oneplus_3_better_manage_its_6gb_of_ram-blog-18891.php

Change the value from 20 to 42 in build prop
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/system/build.prop in your root folder
ro.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit=20
Change value from 20 to the 42

cannot change it without root right?

angelsanges said:
cannot change it without root right?
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Once again... No, you do not need to be rooted to make this change. You just need to have the bootloader unlocked from what I understand. The fix takes about 2 minutes using adb pull/push. I laid out the steps in a previous post.
You want to find this line: ro.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit=20
It's near-ish to the bottom of the file. One of the next-to-last "paragraphs".
Change the "20" to a higher number. Most people are suggesting 42.

unlocking bootloader wipes all the data on phone

Just back everything up and restore once you've unlocked the bootloader. You'll want to copy the backup to your computer before actually unlocking the bootloader, then copy it back over to the phone once you've booted back into TWRP because you'll probably lose the backup on your phone during the wipe. Might add an extra three minutes to the process. Sounds a lot more complicated than it really is. If you've done any rooting or bootloader unlocking before, it's no more difficult than any of that.

After the mod i can relock bootloader? This invalidates warranty?
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I suppose you could lock the bootloader back up, but it's not necessary. One of the great things about OnePlus is that they're developer friendly. Unlocking the bootloader and flashing custom ROMs doesn't invalidate your phone's warranty. The only time it might would be if the issue you're having is the direct result of your tampering with the phone, but Android is typically pretty forgiving so even if something does go wrong there's usually a reasonably easy way to undo what you've done.
TL;DR unlocking your bootloader and flashing ROMs will not invalidate your warranty.

From a security standpoint, you probably should relock your bootloader if you're not going to use root. It will prevent any exploits from overwriting your bootloader and makes your phone safer in case an OTA isn't released after a major flaw is found. That said, I understand this instruction might be labeled "tin foil hat" by some people here on the forum but the reality is that these exploits do exist, though they are incredibly rare and unlikely to target you. But that doesn't invalidate the security that locking your bootloader grants you.

A new update of OxygenOS will fix that very soon
Check on Google : oneplus3 3.1.4

Steadyson said:
A new update of OxygenOS will fix that very soon
Check on Google : oneplus3 3.1.4
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You've gotta love these smaller companies with smaller user bases. Easier to get heard and smaller companies are more concerned about pleasing the customers they have. I love OnePlus. The phones they make might not be the absolute best phones in the world, but they're definitely up there and they're made with users' wants and needs in mind specifically.

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[Q] Root, is it worth it?

I am having a hard time to choose "to root or not root".
is there a easy way to root?
i just want ad-block and maybe wireless tether, still worth it?
i used to own a HTC DInc, flashing this roms and that roms, and ended up cm7 as my last rom, none of those are stable. beside roms and kernels, what's the advantage of rooting my GN?
Yep... I got rid of all the bloatware, was able to adjust the screen brightness for the automatic setting, and all the things you mentioned.
It is quite simple. To get you started...
1) Download Android SDK and drivers
2) Start phone in bootloader (hold volume +/- down while powering up)
3) Go to your C:/program files (x86)/Android/Platform-Tools folder within a command prompt
4) Type in Fastboot oem unlock
You're now unlocked... Now...
1) Download Superboot http://android.modaco.com/topic/348161-30-nov-r3-superboot-rooting-the-gsm-lte-galaxy-nexus/
2) Put phone back into bootloader as shown above
3) Run the BAT file
I don't know about others, but after waiting 20 minutes, I did a battery pull because it was stuck on the Google screen. I then had root after booting.
momentarylapseofreason said:
Yep... I got rid of all the bloatware, was able to adjust the screen brightness for the automatic setting, and all the things you mentioned.
It is quite simple. To get you started...
1) Download Android SDK and drivers
2) Start phone in bootloader (hold volume +/- down while powering up)
3) Go to your C:/program files (x86)/Android/Platform-Tools folder within a command prompt
4) Type in Fastboot oem unlock
You're now unlocked... Now...
1) Download Superboot http://android.modaco.com/topic/348161-30-nov-r3-superboot-rooting-the-gsm-lte-galaxy-nexus/
2) Put phone back into bootloader as shown above
3) Run the BAT file
I don't know about others, but after waiting 20 minutes, I did a battery pull because it was stuck on the Google screen. I then had root after booting.
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will I lose root and unlocked bootloader when 4.0.3 released?
zeke1988 said:
will I lose root and unlocked bootloader when 4.0.3 released?
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here is the thing about a "nexus" device. It is intended for developing. it is very easy to unlock and re-lock the bootloader. and just the same to root. if ever you want to return to a stock state the images are available from aosp.
why anyone wouldn't root/unlock on a nexus is beyond me.
so the answer to you question is it doesn't matter. because a couple quick command lines will fix everything
Yes
Unlock the Bootloader
Root your phone
Get the WIFI tether app.
Its worth it. That single feature alone made me figure out how to do it. Its really scary honestly, when the words "flashing" come into play, i think about the bad BIOS flash i did at work...but I then watched this video: ?v=ZtKoaPEXzHs[/url] and it didn't seem so bad. So I did it.
The other things you can do with a rooted phone aren't that interesting to mainstream ppl. I'll include myself in that bunch, but wifi app is the one shining perk you get when you root.
thanks everyone, I rooted . the reason i am scared because I brick my first HTC DInc when battery pull on radio flashing haha.
ogdobber said:
here is the thing about a "nexus" device. It is intended for developing. it is very easy to unlock and re-lock the bootloader. and just the same to root. if ever you want to return to a stock state the images are available from aosp.
why anyone wouldn't root/unlock on a nexus is beyond me.
so the answer to you question is it doesn't matter. because a couple quick command lines will fix everything
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couldnt of said it better myself
I also rooted my GNex because of my old app databases, saved games etc.
Titanium Backup is THE reason for me to have root!
Adfree is also nice, but to be able to restore every app you had is just a banger!
I have not rooted my phone yet and don't see the need right now but that may change in the future.
Pretty much rooted my previous phones out the box but that was more to get near a stock rom with no carrier bloatware and as there is no bloatware on the Nexus that requirement for me to root has been removed.
I hope there are more kernels for stock roms.
daleski75 said:
I have not rooted my phone yet and don't see the need right now but that may change in the future.
Pretty much rooted my previous phones out the box but that was more to get near a stock rom with no carrier bloatware and as there is no bloatware on the Nexus that requirement for me to root has been removed.
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Curious.. are those the speeds you're getting on 4G? Here in Chicago, I am getting between 28-32mbps down
EDIT: I don't pay attention.. see that was a 3G speed
No one said it on the first page, so I will.
UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER WILL WIPE ALL DATA AND USERDATA FROM THE DEVICE.
zeke1988 said:
I hope there are more kernels for stock roms.
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I don't understand your post - Kernels are independent of ROMs. The only limitation right now is that most are built for 4.0.3 and the 4.0.3 OTA hasn't been pushed yet. Or is that what you mean?
I would live to root but man I don't understand any of this stuff. Its not as easy as the d3 was for rooting. I dont know what and where those files would be located and what they are. Is there a super newb version. I need something that does a step by step. Like where are this files that you talk about are they on the phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352413&highlight=superboot
Easiest way of rooting.
spacecasespiff said:
I would live to root but man I don't understand any of this stuff. Its not as easy as the d3 was for rooting. I dont know what and where those files would be located and what they are. Is there a super newb version. I need something that does a step by step. Like where are this files that you talk about are they on the phone.
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Check my sig
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in my opinion, if there isn't anything compelling you to root at the moment, i'd wait until that time. there will eventually come a rom, feature or app that will motivate you.
all the high horse talk about what a "nexus phone is about..." is irrelevant because you paid for a device to do and not do what you please with it.
Sertainly I love my custom rom.
zeke1988 said:
I am having a hard time to choose "to root or not root".
is there a easy way to root?
i just want ad-block and maybe wireless tether, still worth it?
i used to own a HTC DInc, flashing this roms and that roms, and ended up cm7 as my last rom, none of those are stable. beside roms and kernels, what's the advantage of rooting my GN?
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don't do ad block, on HTC phones it causes huge lag when surfing.
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momentarylapseofreason said:
Yep... I got rid of all the bloatware, was able to adjust the screen brightness for the automatic setting, and all the things you mentioned.
It is quite simple. To get you started...
1) Download Android SDK and drivers
2) Start phone in bootloader (hold volume +/- down while powering up)
3) Go to your C:/program files (x86)/Android/Platform-Tools folder within a command prompt
4) Type in Fastboot oem unlock
You're now unlocked... Now...
1) Download Superboot http://android.modaco.com/topic/348161-30-nov-r3-superboot-rooting-the-gsm-lte-galaxy-nexus/
2) Put phone back into bootloader as shown above
3) Run the BAT file
I don't know about others, but after waiting 20 minutes, I did a battery pull because it was stuck on the Google screen. I then had root after booting.
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Thanks! When you root, does this delete all your settings and apps? I spent so much time setting up this thing, what's holding me back from rooting is having to do it all again.
Neo3D said:
don't do ad block, on HTC phones it causes huge lag when surfing.
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Thanks! When you root, does this delete all your settings and apps? I spent so much time setting up this thing, what's holding me back from rooting is having to do it all again.
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Really? It didnt lag much on my old htc Dinc.
Once i unlocked bootloader, it did a factory reset. All data got deleted, but some apps i installed still there after reset. And my setting got backed up by google.
ogdobber said:
here is the thing about a "nexus" device. It is intended for developing. it is very easy to unlock and re-lock the bootloader. and just the same to root. if ever you want to return to a stock state the images are available from aosp.
why anyone wouldn't root/unlock on a nexus is beyond me.
so the answer to you question is it doesn't matter. because a couple quick command lines will fix everything
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Because you wipe out all the data on your phone? How can I back up when non-rooted so it will be simple to restore everything when I root the phone?

[Q]Should I ROOT my HTC One M8?

So I've been brought up to this question. I received my HTC One M8 a month after its release and things are looking pretty great so far. I love it and I have Nova Launcher Prime which makes it all the more better. I came up to a question of whether or not should I root my phone. I've seen some people do impressive things with their rooted phones and I would like to do that as well, but I feel as if, if I do root my phone it won't be the same that I have it now. I'm just skeptical that if I were to root, I would not be able to setup my phone the way it is now(Nova Launcher Prime, Zooper Widgets, etc.). Also I'm afraid I might "brick" my phone in the process as I am not a master when it comes to following things. If you could help me decide whether or not I should root my phone that'd be great. Thanks and have a good day!
Edit: Just some more information, my phone is unlocked and off contract.
Tazz. said:
So I've been brought up to this question. I received my HTC One M8 a month after its release and things are looking pretty great so far. I love it and I have Nova Launcher Prime which makes it all the more better. I came up to a question of whether or not should I root my phone. I've seen some people do impressive things with their rooted phones and I would like to do that as well, but I feel as if, if I do root my phone it won't be the same that I have it now. I'm just skeptical that if I were to root, I would not be able to setup my phone the way it is now(Nova Launcher Prime, Zooper Widgets, etc.). Also I'm afraid I might "brick" my phone in the process as I am not a master when it comes to following things. If you could help me decide whether or not I should root my phone that'd be great. Thanks and have a good day!
Edit: Just some more information, my phone is unlocked and off contract.
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Personally, unless you want some specific things you haven't got now, which you can get with a custom ROM, I wouldn't root.
Pick what you would like to do with your phone which you can't now, and take it from there.
I had a smoother phone with better battery life while it was unrooted and stock, and kind of wish I hadn't rooted.
HtcOneJon said:
I had a smoother phone with better battery life while it was unrooted and stock, and kind of wish I hadn't rooted.
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Rooting does not affect the battery life or performance of the phone. If you think that changing the ROM has affected these things, just flash back to the stock ROM. Its not like anything you have done (in terms of performance) is irreversible.
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Tazz. said:
I'm just skeptical that if I were to root, I would not be able to setup my phone the way it is now(Nova Launcher Prime, Zooper Widgets, etc.).
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Why would you think that? Root just give you mores system access privileges. It gives you more freedom, not less.
Whether root is right for you or not is a personal decision. The huge majority of Android phone users will never root (or likely even know what that means). But for me its almost mandatory. I rooted the phone 1 day after buying it. Probably would have done it the first night, but I have a 3-year old running around the house!
You haven't been specific as to what "impressive things" you want to do with your phone. But if you really want to do things that require root, just do it!
Tazz. said:
Also I'm afraid I might "brick" my phone in the process as I am not a master when it comes to following things. If you could help me decide whether or not I should root my phone that'd be great.
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Take the time to read up, and understand the concepts, terms and process; and follow the guides very closely, and you will be fine. Take your time, and don't rush the learning process. If you get stuck, read some more, or come on here and ask (don't try random things or try to make up your own solutions, as this is a sure recipe for disaster).
You don't have to be a master; you just have to do your due diligence and read and research. This phone is IMO not that easy to brick, as long as you understand what you are doing and follow the steps closely.
Of Course... That is why you are here. Read up first. :good:
why do people think root is such a life changing thing ? like such a big deal, so forbidden
smfh
redpoint73 said:
Rooting does not affect the battery life or performance of the phone. If you think that changing the ROM has affected these things, just flash back to the stock ROM. Its not like anything you have done (in terms of performance) is irreversible.
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Why would you think that? Root just give you mores system access privileges. It gives you more freedom, not less.
Whether root is right for you or not is a personal decision. The huge majority of Android phone users will never root (or likely even know what that means). But for me its almost mandatory. I rooted the phone 1 day after buying it. Probably would have done it the first night, but I have a 3-year old running around the house!
You haven't been specific as to what "impressive things" you want to do with your phone. But if you really want to do things that require root, just do it!
Take the time to read up, and understand the concepts, terms and process; and follow the guides very closely, and you will be fine. Take your time, and don't rush the learning process. If you get stuck, read some more, or come on here and ask (don't try random things or try to make up your own solutions, as this is a sure recipe for disaster).
You don't have to be a master; you just have to do your due diligence and read and research. This phone is IMO not that easy to brick, as long as you understand what you are doing and follow the steps closely.
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Thank you for such a wonderful answer to my questions. I guess I will learn up how to root and everything around it. Could you recommend me a guide to rooting and HTC One M8?
Thanks!
Tazz. said:
Could you recommend me a guide to rooting and HTC One M8?
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I'd start with these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694600
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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rbouza1 said:
why do people think root is such a life changing thing ? like such a big deal, so forbidden
smfh
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The carriers and manufacturers do a good job of scaring people off "OMG you're going to void your warranty if you even think about rooting!"
Its almost comical on a less techy website like the AT&T forum how most of the users are terrified about rooting; like its something illegal or sketchy. If you suggest rooting to them, its like you asked them to steal a car or something.
If I may...
I have an htc one m8, factory unlocked, running 5.0.1, stock. My HBOOT is 3.19.0.000 and OS 4.16.1540.8.
I would like to use tasker and for that, I need a rooted phone based on what I want to do with tasker.
My question is: if I just unlock the bootloader and root it, will I be able to get OTAs from HTC? I don't want to install any kernel or custom Roms, don't want S-Off neither do anything else with my phone other than get access to certain functions on tasker... I am glad the way things are.
Or can I just root it, without having to change the bootloader?
Thanks for the time spent on answering this noobie.
AlcaloidedoErgot said:
My question is: if I just unlock the bootloader and root it, will I be able to get OTAs from HTC?
Or can I just root it, without having to change the bootloader?
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Yes and yes.
In order to OTA, you will need to put the stock recovery back on the phone. ROM needs to be stock (no system apps removed, etc.). Unlocked bootloader is okay, root is okay (to install OTA).
The OTA will remove root, but its a simple matter to re- install custom recovery and root again after the OTA.
redpoint73 said:
Yes and yes.
In order to OTA, you will need to put the stock recovery back on the phone. ROM needs to be stock (no system apps removed, etc.). Unlocked bootloader is okay, root is okay (to install OTA).
The OTA will remove root, but its a simple matter to re- install custom recovery and root again after the OTA.
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Thank you so much for your fast reply. I really appreciated your answer.
Just two more: Will I have any problem doing it as my HBOOT version is 3.19.0.0000? And would you mind to post a link to a tutorial on just to root and not unlock the bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
AlcaloidedoErgot said:
Will I have any problem doing it as my HBOOT version is 3.19.0.0000?
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No problem. Hboot 3.19 roots just fine. If on Lollipop, use the most current SuperSU zip (2.46) as older versions won't work on Lollipop.
AlcaloidedoErgot said:
And would you mind to post a link to a tutorial on just to root and not unlock the bootloader?
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There is no way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
On KitKat, you can use sunshine s-off (but costs $25 US) to temp root, s-off, and unlock bootloader without going through HTCDev.com.
But if on Lollipop, the only way to unlock the bootloader is though HTCDev.com.
Either way, you will have to unlock the bootloader and install custom recovery in order to root.

Root for AT&T N920A.

I know this is not the right place to ask. I need to know. Do we have developers working on root for this model?
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Yes and No...still having booloader issues!
And yes wrong place...this post belongs in Q&A!
We need firmware release so we can restore after. Tell then no one really wants to try because just messing with options in recovery disables the phone.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=N920
Will firmware release happen for our model?
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amwbt said:
Will firmware release happen for our model?
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AT&T has to because it's open source. They however can keep it for like 6 months to a year or something. With the cracks down on root AT&T and Verizon it might be a long wait with the locked bootloader saidly and we need a custom kernel to get root and we can't flash kernels with locked bootloader. Just watch the website I linked and when we get our firmware then we can possibly expect root and someone to try and unlock the bootloader. I'm not sure if there is a "anti root" in the AT&T phone because I'm not going to lose my phone. I already had to return for warranty due to defective screen and spen. Look at how long it takes the new iPhone software to get jailbroken.
TechNyne66 said:
AT&T has to because it's open source. They however can keep it for like 6 months to a year or something. With the cracks down on root AT&T and Verizon it might be a long wait with the locked bootloader saidly and we need a custom kernel to get root and we can't flash kernels with locked bootloader. Just watch the website I linked and when we get our firmware then we can possibly expect root and someone to try and unlock the bootloader. I'm not sure if there is a "anti root" in the AT&T phone because I'm not going to lose my phone. I already had to return for warranty due to defective screen and spen. Look at how long it takes the new iPhone software to get jailbroken.
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Needing a custom kernel for root is actually a false statement. A custom kernel is not needed to get root for this device. The AT&T S6 for example got root without the bootloader being unlocked or a custom kernel.
Which leads me to the bootloader being unlocked. There is probably a 100% chance that we don't get an unlocked bootloader for this device. It's extremely difficult and there hasn't been an AT&T device in a very long time that has had it unlocked.
And since we would need that for a custom kernel and aosp roms, those things will probably never happen unfortunately.
The very best we can hope for is root and a recovery like FlashFire like the S6 got. And even then we would be limited to only Touchwiz roms.
We will more then likely need custom kernel with permissive set. AT&T and Verizon are saying there's anti root and that would be in the kernel and would need to be killed. If we do obtain root with stock kernel the phone is said to not boot.
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...d-features-att-and-verizon-models-wont-468357
It is one of those things where they're will be zero development until some Uber-geek cracks the bootloader issue. Then there will be 20 devices or more that will be released from developer quarantine...
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AOSP will never happen without unlocked bootloader.
I do have hope for a root such as Ping Pong. Honestly, with how clean these phones ship nowadays, all I want root for is to replace emojis with iOS style throughout the system so I can grasp more context from my text messages lol. Also, LCD Density change would be nice too.
Is there anybody working on root for this phone?
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Have no need for root either except for xposed. Only want root for like 4 xposed modules.. Otherwise this device is nearly perfect
I need to change muy dpis
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Planning on getting this phone today..
I have rooted and installed ROMs on almost every phone I have owned and really hope that eventually a safe way of rooting is obtained.
jellybear456 said:
a safe way of rooting
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heh. I know what you mean, but I'm grumpy this morning so I'm going to pick this apart anyway.
If root is found on a boot loader locked device, it's usually via an exploit... Basically, most rooting mechanisms are similar to computer viruses. Sure, most of them are controlled viruses, but they exploit and expose security holes that something malicious could use just as easily. Instead of copying a "su" binary, that same exploit could install something that uploads your private data somewhere, or monitors the android keypad entry when you type credit card numbers, etc.
Don't get me wrong... I don't think that most of the root exploits here on XDA are doing that... but any time you use one, you should seriously consider that it might be. It would only take a single mishap to completely destroy your life outside of XDA.
To that end, you should REALLY pay attention to the entire filesystem both before and after an exploit is applied. See what files, if any, are modified and/or added. If an exploit adds a "su" binary (which most of them do), try to replace that "su" binary with one from a trusted source BEFORE you put personal data on your phone. Never "root" a device that has any data on it.
Remember that no matter what precautions you might be taking, a rooted device has a lower level of security than one that isn't. Not only have you added a "simple" root mechanism, but you likely had to defeat the security mechanisms that are part of the security enhanced linux kernel. (There are exceptions to this, of course, but I've never seen the exceptions here on XDA or any other sites that aren't focused on security.)
If this message made you a bit more paranoid, that's a good thing. You should be paranoid about it. I'm not saying not to do it, and I'm certainly not saying that XDA is overflowing with malicious code...
garyd9 said:
heh. I know what you mean, but I'm grumpy this morning so I'm going to pick this apart anyway.
If root is found on a boot loader locked device, it's usually via an exploit... Basically, most rooting mechanisms are similar to computer viruses. Sure, most of them are controlled viruses, but they exploit and expose security holes that something malicious could use just as easily. Instead of copying a "su" binary, that same exploit could install something that uploads your private data somewhere, or monitors the android keypad entry when you type credit card numbers, etc.
Don't get me wrong... I don't think that most of the root exploits here on XDA are doing that... but any time you use one, you should seriously consider that it might be. It would only take a single mishap to completely destroy your life outside of XDA.
To that end, you should REALLY pay attention to the entire filesystem both before and after an exploit is applied. See what files, if any, are modified and/or added. If an exploit adds a "su" binary (which most of them do), try to replace that "su" binary with one from a trusted source BEFORE you put personal data on your phone. Never "root" a device that has any data on it.
Remember that no matter what precautions you might be taking, a rooted device has a lower level of security than one that isn't. Not only have you added a "simple" root mechanism, but you likely had to defeat the security mechanisms that are part of the security enhanced linux kernel. (There are exceptions to this, of course, but I've never seen the exceptions here on XDA or any other sites that aren't focused on security.)
If this message made you a bit more paranoid, that's a good thing. You should be paranoid about it. I'm not saying not to do it, and I'm certainly not saying that XDA is overflowing with malicious code...
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Yes, I do realize that rooting a device often does take advantage of any security holes found, and I also realize that there is no, in the literal sense, "safe" way to root a phone considering it is exploiting security flaws. Personally, I have never had such an issue of having something malicious on my phone after rooting(at least not to my knowledge)
By "safe" I meant a way to root without having the phone locked down and unable to boot. I am not worried about AOSP ROMs as I am completely content with using an AOSP themed launcher. But I would love to be able to uninstall bloat, ad block, greenify/amplify etc.
But I do appreciate your input on the subject as I have never put much thought into the security of the phone before and after root, or replacing the su binary with one from a trusted source or checking if it is from a trusted source.
It is also great to see someone else on the forums from Pittsburgh:highfive:
I have n920a. Please share the path to rooting this phone.
Cuando se podra rootear el dispositivo Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A?
Possible way to root?
I don't know if this would work. But what about flashing one of those new root.tar eng kernal then manually pushing the survey binary and super apk into phone then reflash stock kernal. I'm just intermediate at all this stuff. So idk if it would work or if this is stupid.
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I don't know if this would work. But what about flashing one of those new root.tar eng kernal then manually pushing the survey binary and super apk into phone then reflash stock kernal. I'm just intermediate at all this stuff. So idk if it would work or if this is stupid.
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It's possible, after flashing the eng-boot do this:
adb shell mount -o rw,remount /system
Then manually push SuperSU to system, or install King/Kingo Root
Just be careful this is still a tethered root.
I have posted a teathered root process that Michael31 found from the AT&T s6 section. It works and you can get reboots with hoot booting. The locked bootloader causing issues with the kernel needed add commands on hard boot to change to permissive mode. Few of us have tried to fix this issue and haven't found anyway yet.

HTC M8 Temp Root and Data Monitoring

Hello All,
I have two questions:
1) I want to temp root my device as I need to get some files that are found within the system files (to be more specific, whatsapp files), and I don't want to use 3rd party applications. How can I achieve this without using SunShine as I won't be able to pay?
2) I want an application (Firewall) to allow/deny application access to internet, mainly on 3G .. I've used NetGuard but it is rubbish! all applications are able to access the internet normally.
So, which firewall application do you recommend to download that works fine on a non-rooted, stock Marshmallow M8?
Android Version: 6.0
HTC Sense Version: 7.0
Software Number: 6.12.401.4
Build Number: 6.12.401.4
You could try NoRoot Firewall, though it does work by creating a local VPN, so it will only work as long as you don't require any OTHER VPNs. This should work just fine, though at a possible performance penalty, since the routing is handled in userland software.
If you are willing to root your device, you can use the internal iptables in the kernel, which is much, much faster. I personally use AFWall+ to configure it, but most "Android Firewalls" that require root are basically front-ends to iptables.
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For most of android users ,they need an easy and safe tool to root their android phone,
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I strongly disagree. If a user can't handle the typical (and fairly easy) root process of unlocking the bootloader, flashing custom recovery TWRP, and flashing SuperSU; then they have no business having root privileges.
A great many things can go wrong with root. And when that happens, you better know how to revert those changes, or return to stock. That means (at a minimum) knowing how to use an RUU and fastboot. And may even mean knowing adb, how to restore stock TWRP backups, and a whole lot more.
I wasn't familiar with Anyrooter before. Looking at the website, they want $40 US to root your phone. For something that can be done easily yourself for free. Plus, the website has no phone number, and no physical contact address. Looks really sketchy. Borders on a scam to me, or at least a shameless money grab. Will they even give you your money back if the root fails? Doesn't say on their website, that I can find.
And is Anyrooter going to help you restore your device, if/when something goes wrong? I highly doubt it.
"Fast" and "easy" (and expensive) methods will never replace proper research and learning, and using the proper tools.
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,the software ensure that your phone will be protected
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That is just plain false. As I've already mentioned, a great many things can go wrong messing with root privileges. You better know how to revert the changes. And that means at a minimum, knowing how to use RUU (if one exists for your M8 version), but may also mean how to use TWRP (unlocked bootloader required) and how to restore stock TWRP backups.
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sikas said:
I want to temp root my device
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If you want temp root, kingroot (which is free) may be your best bet. But from what I've seen, results have been mixed. Do your research. Kingroot may also fail, and cause the system to be flagged as "Modified". So you better know how to revert those changes. At a minimum, know how to RUU; and whether and RUU exists for your M8 version, and OS number.
Gokii said:
To my mind ,i concerns about phone device will be damage or data be lost, i just want to use an easy and safe way to root my phone device, i think AnyRooter help me to solve this problem,
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So if the root doesn't work, or some change done under root privileges causes the phone to stop booting to OS, what you are going to do then??? If that isn't a concern to you, then it should be.
"Safe" is subjective. Of course, this AnyRooter service would like you to think its "safe", so they can take your $40. But you should be asking them, what their recovery plan is, if the root attempt results in no OS. Or if they will refund your money, if they can't root the phone.
And "easy" is not always "best". In fact, it seldom is.
Feel free to throw away your money if you want. But this device is rooted rather easily for free, by anyone that can follow instructions and willing to spend a little time gaining some knowledge. Knowledge that is crucial when things go wrong (and they will, eventually, if you play with these phones enough).
$40 to root? hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
And people complain about Sunshine being $25
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$40 to root? hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
And people complain about Sunshine being $25
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What's worse is that Sunshine leaves you S-off/bootloader unlocked for $25. These folks are charging $40 for root only.

Why did you root?

Like the title says. Why?
I used to root/ROM all my devices but as Android grew up I have found less reasons to. I haven't had my 6P rooted for the last 3 months at all and my Pixel isn't rooted currently. I may decide to later for the dual speaker mod though.
So why do you root? For a feature? a tweak? habbit? just because you can/feel you should as a power user?
System wide ad away, custom kernels, Xposed when it comes out, AppRadioUnchained and root Tasker. The power of root! (Can fix unforseen issues)
Ad away, Xposed and AppRadioUnchained are game changers for me, well worth the trouble of root.
Twrp is another really root, but usually has the same negative effect, aka warranty issues, but system backups are great too.
PS: Pixel has no Knox and can be unrooted 100% via flash a stock image or locking bootloader (causes factory reset) so why not?
Rooting is my way of saying "**** you" to the "man". I want full control of my phone, not just what the "man" thinks is adequate or best for me.
Adaway
Call recording.
Substratum, Swift Black theme, Titanium Backup plus all of the above.
Sent from my Pixel XL
to put the clock in the center and get rid of the brightness slider in notification pull down. more seriously, adaway, EX kernel manager, and font change.
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FreeSoftwareServers said:
PS: Pixel has no Knox and can be unrooted 100% via flash a stock image or locking bootloader (causes factory reset) so why not?
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I would go with unrooting by flashing a stock image but I would warn against locking the bootloader of a modified device. Put the stock image on and then lock the bootloader if you want but don't lock it while it's rooted, if you get into a bootloop, you won't be able to rescue if the bootloader is locked.
Not trying to pick a fuss, I just wouldn't want anyone to have a soft brick situation with a locked bootloader.
Maybe a Google store Pixel, you could re-unlock and restore from a soft brick with a locked bootloader but if it's Verizon and on 7.1.1, better not lock it while it's rooted.
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I would go with unrooting by flashing a stock image but I would warn against locking the bootloader of a modified device. Put the stock image on and then lock the bootloader if you want but don't lock it while it's rooted, if you get into a bootloop, you won't be able to rescue if the bootloader is locked.
Not trying to pick a fuss, I just wouldn't want anyone to have a soft brick situation with a locked bootloader.
Maybe a Google store Pixel, you could re-unlock and restore from a soft brick with a locked bootloader but if it's Verizon and on 7.1.1, better not lock it while it's rooted.
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There is absolutely no reason to re-lock the bootloader. Even if you're sending back to Google (unlocked bootloader does not void warranty).
Ad away and titanium.
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Roms. Kernels. Debloat further. Greenify. Theming
3aucla1r3 said:
to put the clock in the center and get rid of the brightness slider in notification pull down. more seriously, adaway, EX kernel manager, and font change.
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I would go with unrooting by flashing a stock image but I would warn against locking the bootloader of a modified device. Put the stock image on and then lock the bootloader if you want but don't lock it while it's rooted, if you get into a bootloop, you won't be able to rescue if the bootloader is locked.
Not trying to pick a fuss, I just wouldn't want anyone to have a soft brick situation with a locked bootloader.
Maybe a Google store Pixel, you could re-unlock and restore from a soft brick with a locked bootloader but if it's Verizon and on 7.1.1, better not lock it while it's rooted.
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I completely agree, personally, the only reason I'd do this is to return/sell the device, in which case, flashing a stock image via ADB is the way to go to totally wipe everything back to stock.
Why did I root
I had Samsung S5. Still on Alltell UDP. Used to use FoxFi for Wi-Fi on the go. I used to pay around $100 for comcast internet and basic cable. I came home one day and realized I am just stacking Wi-Fi on top of my comcast Wi-Fi. I figured why am I paying to Wi-Fi while I Wi-Fi. Then I had a decision, do I keep the comcast or the verizon. Well the verizon was mobile so that made it easy. Plus I don't watch TV other than some golf and college football. Go Spartans!! Then an OS updated caused FoxFi to stop working. My wife works from home and needs Wi-Fi. I had to figure something out fast.
I came here.
I couldn't get Samsung S5 to root, and since we needed new phones anyways, I bought 2 Nexus 6's. Best phone ever IMO. I read and studied for weeks. Only had time on weekends to figure out root. Finally I figured it out. Basically TWRP at that time. Anyways, it worked. Native hotspot and faster than comcast was.
Recently comcast threatened to kick anyone with UDP off "again". I was on Reddit trying to figure out how to stay on my plan via r/verizonUDP. There were all these crazy names for shady ways to keep your plan. Someone mentioned that they spoke to a Verizon rep and they stated they only way to be truly unlimited was to be under contract. He put up the legacy Verizon website. I went on there and was able to get mine and my wifes phones back under 2 years UDP.
By this time I was now a Nexus and soon to be Pixel guy. No way was I ever going back to any bloatware or non-stock type of phone. I realize root fixes a lot of this but with my love of the Nexus 6, I was sold on going with the Pixel XL. Let me tell you I had buyers remorse for a few months. 2k for 2 phones that were all getting pretty negative reviews. Glad I stuck with it thought. I love the Pixel XL.
I hook a bunch of people I work with up with my Wi-Fi. Network refresher was wokring for a bit. The 7.1.1 update nuked network refresher. I gave it a week or so then decided to root this phone.
Now with some experience under my belt I was able to root with CMD prompts and no TWRP. So proud of myself!!! Thank you to everyone here who has taken time to write down and explain the steps as well. Its not easy for someone who is not familar with the process and just started rooting within the past year. I realize this is a developer platform filled with experts well above my novice skill but those who care and explain things like they would to a golden retreiver really helps. I now encourage others I know to root and am even able to show them how. I don't think they would if they had to spend the time and effort I did by coming here and reading thread after thread.
Finally, I love TWRP and will go back. Just giving it some more time as Pixel is pretty good as is. I used to love some of the themes and kernels. I can't wait to get back to them but, work, 3 kids under 10, and a wife... Well all I can say is thank you to everyone here.
Question on the unrooting, I am one of 7 or 8 people in the US who want to use AndroidPay. If I unlock and root and then relock and unroot any idea if it will work again? I know it is a tough question, hoped someone would have an idea about it.
FreeSoftwareServers said:
System wide ad away, custom kernels, Xposed when it comes out, AppRadioUnchained and root Tasker. The power of root! (Can fix unforseen issues)
Ad away, Xposed and AppRadioUnchained are game changers for me, well worth the trouble of root.
Twrp is another really root, but usually has the same negative effect, aka warranty issues, but system backups are great too.
PS: Pixel has no Knox and can be unrooted 100% via flash a stock image or locking bootloader (causes factory reset) so why not?
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Okmed said:
Question on the unrooting, I am one of 7 or 8 people in the US who want to use AndroidPay. If I unlock and root and then relock and unroot any idea if it will work again? I know it is a tough question, hoped someone would have an idea about it.
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Right now someone made a modified kernel and put in a safety net patch. I was able to use Android pay and play Pokémon Go with an unlocked bootloader. I am in rooted but have twrp installed......
I personally have not needed root yet, tibu isn't something I need anymore. The battery life is so great compared to my n6 that I haven't even have greenify installed yet.
xocomaox said:
There is absolutely no reason to re-lock the bootloader. Even if you're sending back to Google (unlocked bootloader does not void warranty).
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There is. Android pay doesn't work. So that's just one
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chapelfreak said:
Right now someone made a modified kernel and put in a safety net patch. I was able to use Android pay and play Pokémon Go with an unlocked bootloader. I am in rooted but have twrp installed......
I personally have not needed root yet, tibu isn't something I need anymore. The battery life is so great compared to my n6 that I haven't even have greenify installed yet.
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Which kernel was that?
boober78 said:
There is. Android pay doesn't work. So that's just one
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Which kernel was that?
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Since they have safteynet patch kernels available, that bypasses bootloader check with android pay.
So please don't re-lock your bootloader. It's very dangerous.
xocomaox said:
Since they have safteynet patch kernels available, that bypasses bootloader check with android pay.
So please don't re-lock your bootloader. It's very dangerous.
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Yo can only re-lock it if you're fully stock, that's pretty obvious.
boober78 said:
Yo can only re-lock it if you're fully stock, that's pretty obvious.
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Yet people do it anyways..
boober78 said:
There is. Android pay doesn't work. So that's just one
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Which kernel was that?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-stock-kernel-safetynet-patch-t3516596
Questions:
Where are (or are there) mods for:
1 Call Recording (figured it out)
2 Battery Percentage in status bar (figured it out)
3 Screenshot in power menu (that shortcut with vol+power does not work for me...I can never get it)
4 Switching multiwindow and back button on bottom (like Samsung)
funkydude101 said:
Questions:
Where are (or are there) mods for:
1 Call Recording (figured it out)
2 Battery Percentage in status bar (figured it out)
3 Screenshot in power menu (that shortcut with vol+power does not work for me...I can never get it)
4 Switching multiwindow and back button on bottom (like Samsung)
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How did you get battery percentage in status bar? I can only get it inside the battery icon..

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