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should i buy lg k10 ?

hi all xda users
i want to buy a cellphone for gift giving to someone
i want to know is it good choice ? or i need to find other choice with the same price ??

s27moto said:
hi all xda users
i want to buy a cellphone for gift giving to someone
i want to know is it good choice ? or i need to find other choice with the same price ??
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Hi there. I've been using the phone for about a month. (1.5GB 13mp version)
You can ask me anything about it. So far everything runs really smooth and I'm quite pleased with the camera (and quite dissappointed with the stock camera app).
What do you need to know?

iPp350z said:
Hi there. I've been using the phone for about a month. (1.5GB 13mp version)
You can ask me anything about it. So far everything runs really smooth and I'm quite pleased with the camera (and quite dissappointed with the stock camera app).
What do you need to know?
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can you able to play hd games for example asphalt?
can you share some photo capture with stock camera app with no edit

iPp350z said:
quite dissappointed with the stock camera app.
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What camera app are you using?

firthy said:
What camera app are you using?
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How can I change lock password or knockcode I don't know where to change it
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firthy said:
What camera app are you using?
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Open Camera (you can find it here on XDA) and the full version of Camera FV-5. Both work well but sometimes you have to take a few shots to adjust the exposure correctly.

Thanks, will look into them, phone should arrive this week.

iPp350z said:
Hi there. I've been using the phone for about a month. (1.5GB 13mp version)
You can ask me anything about it. So far everything runs really smooth and I'm quite pleased with the camera (and quite dissappointed with the stock camera app).
What do you need to know?
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Is it possible to root it? What about battery endurance? You have Mediatek version? Thanks.

Hello iPp350z,
Do you test the GPS? Because i'm between K10 (K420N)and LG Zero (H650E). And on test here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/
LG H650E have little more accurate GPS.
But K10 look better
Thank you!

wizzardsk said:
Is it possible to root it? What about battery endurance? You have Mediatek version? Thanks.
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I'm using KingRoot and it roots just fine but I have the Snapdragon 410 version. Battery life is about a day and a half for me and I use it quite often.
Belqta said:
Hello iPp350z,
Do you test the GPS? Because i'm between K10 (K420N)and LG Zero (H650E). And on test here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/
LG H650E have little more accurate GPS.
But K10 look better
Thank you!
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Sure, no problem, I'll test it. Any specific app that you prefer? From my experience the GPS locks almost instantly and is quite accurate but I haven't done any specific tests.
Yeah, it looks way better than the H650E and it also has a bigger screen while being almost the same size. That was the main reason I bought it. The camera also takes great photos in daylight but night photos are terrible.

Well I have the t-mobile (US) version, and it has ups and downs.
UP:
1) The 1.5 GB of ram helps keep things snappy.
2) It actually received security updates. I'm. Only 2 months behind the Nexus phones, which is pretty good for a carrier branded phone.
3) Display is nicely bright.
4) SD card support
5) Removable battery.
6) $165.
DOWN:
1) 8 MP camera,
2) No USB OTG support
3) I've had 3 times where the phone audio didn't work at all. Had to reboot to get it back.
4) Screen size a little.large for me to type in landscape.
The only one I care about is the call audio issue...
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Yes , i have call audio issue too, i have to reboot the phone everytime
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Its good phone but its LG Security is too tight. Fastboot mode crackin is difficult

LG G4 Camera and OIS performace

Hi,
I have read the reviews of LG G4 camera and particularly OIS videos comparison. I came across the jerky videos issue with LG G4 OIS. Also checked this link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-bad-ois-t3103334)
I Want to know that does G4 really has some issue with OIS? How's the videos quality with OIS?

If you're walking it's very bad, if you stay steady it helps, so don't walk while recording...

No problems here, recordings seem pretty smooth on both 1080P and 4K while walking
Not sure what's up on his end.

Yup, no problem here too, everything is superb

If you walk like you don't care it will be bad as it tries to compensate too much movement. I walk while filming but try to dump the move with my feet a bit flexed and it works ok for me
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OIS in video sucks anyway, it makes the pictures distorted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acUEAUx4WJI
Edit : the G4's OIS instead of helping stabilize video it even adds some jerky, stoopid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7YomVQb4Vo
The best for pictures, but the worst for video.

Can confirm that the OIS is not good while walking, strange movement that does not look good.

OIS in such a small device is not a 3000$ shoulder mounted gimbal rig, so having jerky video while moving is normal. Plus it is a sign, that it is working.

If you want to disable OIS while shooting a video just get ProShot (you can also disable noise reduction).
Great app. You actually disable it even while shooting the video, really cool feature. Works only in the app.

davebugyi said:
OIS in such a small device is not a 3000$ shoulder mounted gimbal rig, so having jerky video while moving is normal. Plus it is a sign, that it is working.
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Of course, but the 6s + OIS works way better while walking.

Hi Everyone,
Thanks a lot for your opinions.
Actually I was comparing the OIS quality of G4 with other phones and I was wandering that why this phone results in lots of jerks while other (like S6) don't. The reviews I have seen on youtube were uploaded back in 2015 and I was thinking that if this OIS issue is a software issue then it should have been fixed by now.
So that's why I just wanted to get the real opinion that is it really an issue (a hardware one) or has it been fixed now (if it was a software bug)? Or if its still the same then can we say that S6 OIS produces much better stable videos then G4?

BrandonSingh said:
No problems here, recordings seem pretty smooth on both 1080P and 4K while walking
Not sure what's up on his end.
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Can you post any sample please

NeoDJW said:
Yup, no problem here too, everything is superb
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Can you post any sample please

They lied or they have new LG G4's special new brand..., or they don't know how to watch a video, I told the OIS helps a lot if you tried to stay steady like for taking a pictures, even if you shoot a video but keep steady, but once you make a little big movement faster it starts to be very bad, the OIS move so much that it adds some distortion which make the video so much more jerky than phone which does not have OIS, so the LG G4's OIS is very bad while walking...

I think sample videos would help more, both from those who are claiming that its good and from those who are saying that its not.

WAQ28 said:
I think sample videos would help more, both from those who are claiming that its good and from those who are saying that its not.
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I agree, but the problem is that there's no samples with good, because the OIS is not good, simple as it... ^^, Nevertherless, I've never seen a good one.

DoKaTSuYa said:
I agree, but the problem is that there's no samples with good, because the OIS is not good, simple as it... ^^, Nevertherless, I've never seen a good one.
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Well I have seen some mix response on this. Some videos are good and some are not. So may be there is an issue with particular models or firmware version.
Which model are you using and what is the firmware/OS version?

WAQ28 said:
Well I have seen some mix response on this. Some videos are good and some are not. So may be there is an issue with particular models or firmware version.
Which model are you using and what is the firmware/OS version?
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Hm no, where's the good ones ? don't talk **** please.

DoKaTSuYa said:
Hm no, where's the good ones ? don't talk **** please.
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Which model are you using and what is the firmware/OS version? And for how long you have been using this phone?

Anna87 said:
Can confirm that the OIS is not good while walking, strange movement that does not look good.
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Which model are you using and what is the firmware/OS version?

Honor 8 pro Camera in low light

Hi, I've been using the H8pro for quite few days now. I bought the phone for its camera capability. Though it takes excellent photos in regular conditions, I'm depressed to see the results in low light which equals the quality of a 3mp Nokia's cameras of yesteryear's. Any advice on how to use camera in low light. My Nikon d300s is too heavy to carry around hence this was a easy substitute but leave aside the low light capability

Rommco05 said:
Can you upload somewhere photos please? I have Honor 9 and Im a bit disappointed of qaulity in low light pictures wit auto mode, I want compare my and yours photos. If I use nightmode photos are excellent
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Sorry that's my family pic. But I'll take a pic and share with you. If u use a tripod and steady your phone at a low shutter speed with low iso

Rommco05 said:
Can you upload somewhere photos please? I have Honor 9 and Im a bit disappointed of qaulity in low light pictures wit auto mode, I want compare my and yours photos. If I use nightmode photos are excellent
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Sorry that's my family pic. But I'll take a pic and share with you. If u use a tripod and steady your phone at a low shutter speed with low iso then i guess There would be some difference. But then the subject should be still.

Rommco05 said:
Yes I use something like tripod for nightmode shots but this photos are good quality, I have blurred photos in night with automode
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Auto focus is never recommended. Even in dslrs. I wish some update came up for enhancing camera

sherwin.131986 said:
Auto focus is never recommended. Even in dslrs. I wish some update came up for enhancing camera
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Maybe capturing raw image (pro mode) will help. That way you can edit them later.
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K.khiladi said:
Maybe capturing raw image (pro mode) will help. That way you can edit them later.
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That wouldn't help if the subject motion blur is present.

It is simply because the lack of OIS

sherwin.131986 said:
That wouldn't help if the subject motion blur is present.
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More than the low light, I feel they should improve the daylight performance of the camera.
In daylight, the dynamic range and color balance is great but I feel the images aren't as sharpened as I would like them to be.
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PalakMi said:
It is simply because the lack of OIS
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Yeah. Or If an enhanced software is present

sherwin.131986 said:
Yeah. Or If an enhanced software is present
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Yes, but it won't do much like OIS, however I hope it will be better in the future.

sherwin.131986 said:
Yeah. Or If an enhanced software is present
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Rasie a complaint to honor via mail , more members have to join ,u will get the update.

venugopalu007 said:
Rasie a complaint to honor via mail , more members have to join ,u will get the update.
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Yeah but how can we pull in more members

sherwin.131986 said:
Yeah but how can we pull in more members
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Ask in whatsapp group , it contains more than 100+ members https://chat.whatsapp.com/Fov9CMNNWdE0p9GGED76Xw
Here is the link

K.khiladi said:
More than the low light, I feel they should improve the daylight performance of the camera.
In daylight, the dynamic range and color balance is great but I feel the images aren't as sharpened as I would like them to be.
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I never felt so. Maybe shaky hands cause that

The daylight performance of the camera is great, especially with pro mode

sherwin.131986 said:
I never felt so. Maybe shaky hands cause that
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That's personal opinion and it will differ.
But there can never be a situation where one can't improve something and so I feel they can improve the camera through software a bit more.
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K.khiladi said:
That's personal opinion and it will differ.
But there can never be a situation where one can't improve something and so I feel they can improve the camera through software a bit more.
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I wish the same. I boast a lot about the camera specs and I go in a hiding when asked to take a pic of the dinner

sherwin.131986 said:
I wish the same. I boast a lot about the camera specs and I go in a hiding when asked to take a pic of the dinner
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Lol bro don't hide ,just raise a issue complaint to honor.
Dont hide.

venugopalu007 said:
Lol bro don't hide ,just raise a issue complaint to honor.
Dont hide.
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Lol Venu, I have joined the group you've sent me the link for.

sherwin.131986 said:
I wish the same. I boast a lot about the camera specs and I go in a hiding when asked to take a pic of the dinner
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Honor 8 pro camera is great, you just need to get some lighting and a good angle of shooting

trade for a pixel 2xl

Been offered a straight swap for a pixel 2 XL should I do it

If you value taking photos over having a headphone jack, then yes.

yes do it or give me the offer, I will swap it

Cheers guys camera is my number 1 priority,
To be fair though I've take some amazing photos and video with the 5t

google camera has been fully ported so no need to get the pixel

Its worth several hundred dollars more. So even if you prefer your OP5T I'd trade it, sell the Pixel 2xl, buy another 5T and keep the change.

sutty86 said:
Cheers guys camera is my number 1 priority,
To be fair though I've take some amazing photos and video with the 5t
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If camera is top priority then you made the right choice!
AlMaghraby said:
google camera has been fully ported so no need to get the pixel
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The 2 XL's camera is still superior to the 5T in every way, regardless of any mod available. Now the screen is much lower quality, although it has gotten a little better since the launch units.

Indisagree younget same or better image quality with latest mod google camera with magisk fixes it is full software port

AlMaghraby said:
Indisagree younget same or better image quality with latest mod google camera with magisk fixes it is full software port
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Well, with latest magisk fix and dotfix GCam quality is reduced. Thats the fact. Gcam is not 100% perfect in 5T now. Since OP ****ed up their Camera hals we can't enjoy better quality.. Simply compare Mi A1 Gcam port vs 5T Gcam port with fix. U will be surprised....

I tried the gcam port last night and the noise was horrendous for low light, the oos camera was much nicer

ready to swap here.!

Rajeev said:
Well, with latest magisk fix and dotfix GCam quality is reduced. Thats the fact. Gcam is not 100% perfect in 5T now. Since OP ****ed up their Camera hals we can't enjoy better quality.. Simply compare Mi A1 Gcam port vs 5T Gcam port with fix. U will be surprised....
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I would never get a better selfie with stock oos camera than this even in the far future https://photos.app.goo.gl/LnwqiCQFwJCyqMsr1
are you sure that you are using latest fix with face unlock fully functional ?

AlMaghraby said:
I would never get a better selfie with stock oos camera than this even in the far future https://photos.app.goo.gl/LnwqiCQFwJCyqMsr1
are you sure that you are using latest fix with face unlock fully functional ?
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Bro. I am talking about general photography. Selfie and Portiait are perfect in Gcam. Other types of photos are not perfect like Mi A1 Gcam. As u know, our Camera HAL implementation is bad. One Plus ****ed it.. With dot fix the quality of the output decreased... Selfie and Portait shots are fine.. And yea i am always using latest

Rajeev said:
Bro. I am talking about general photography. Selfie and Portiait are perfect in Gcam. Other types of photos are not perfect like Mi A1 Gcam. As u know, our Camera HAL implementation is bad. One Plus ****ed it.. With dot fix the quality of the output decreased... Selfie and Portait shots are fine.. And yea i am always using latest
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but still isn't the google camera much better than the stock camera ?
also I only capture portraits and selfies no even videos ?

AlMaghraby said:
but still isn't the google camera much better than the stock camera ?
also I only capture portraits and selfies no even videos ?
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It's better. Really loves GCam. Hope will get a complete fix soon...

Well I will be doing the trade tomorrow ,
And will keep you guys updated on initial impressions
I use the camera alot taking mainly family photos

Got the pixel 2 xl
Similar in size to the 5t
First impressions aren't great to be fair
The screen OMG very bad 5t blows it away with colour
Very washed out even on saturated mode.
Camera is okay been very dull day here in the UK.
So far on par with 5t
And I think positive is better on 5t.
Pretty disappointed at the minute
Honest opinion

sutty86 said:
Got the pixel 2 xl
Similar in size to the 5t
First impressions aren't great to be fair
The screen OMG very bad 5t blows it away with colour
Very washed out even on saturated mode.
Camera is okay been very dull day here in the UK.
So far on par with 5t
And I think positive is better on 5t.
Pretty disappointed at the minute
Honest opinion
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Glad ..8f anyone else in ur place
Would hav said that pixel xl is better then 5t just for their mind satisfaction ..
Also camera is ..okay ..u said really ? Coz i have been listening lot about pixel ..

A lot is said about the pixel but the photos I've took today of my son , are about equal,
The 5t video at 1080p is fantastic.
I will have a better look when we get better weather.
Maybe it's a placebo with the screen being so lackluster
Blue shift also exists

I might be swapping this pixel back for a 5t soon hahahaha

Is this phone worth it?

Hi I'm planning to buy one for my next phone.
Is this worth it?
I'm limited by the price or I would go for the A70

I'm very pleased with this phone, only the camera is a little disappointing, coming from S8.
I guess 2 to 1 pixel binning doesn't work very well in 2d. A70 (and A51) have 4 to 1. S-series have larger pixels on the sensor, with only 12 MP more detail and less noise.

NoCo33 said:
I'm very pleased with this phone, only the camera is a little disappointing, coming from S8.
I guess 2 to 1 pixel binning doesn't work very well in 2d. A70 (and A51) have 4 to 1. S-series have larger pixels on the sensor, with only 12 MP more detail and less noise.
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That can be fixed via Software improvement.
But I'm thinking about the future development of this phone,,
I mean, will we get ROM and other supports by the Devs in the future...
Sent from my Xperia 1 using XDA Labs

Wait for A51, it'll come out soon if it already isn't in your country. Better cameras and what's more important better fingerprint sensor.

BladeRunnerA2C said:
That can be fixed via Software improvement.
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Maybe, but I doubt it will happen. There were some camera updates already and it didn't improve much.
BladeRunnerA2C said:
But I'm thinking about the future development of this phone,,
I mean, will we get ROM and other supports by the Devs in the future...
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Devs don't seem to be very interested in supporting this phone for a number of reasons. So I'm not expecting any good custom roms soon.

NoCo33 said:
Maybe, but I doubt it will happen. There were some camera updates already and it didn't improve much.
Devs don't seem to be very interested in supporting this phone for a number of reasons. So I'm not expecting any good custom roms soon.
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Changed my mind ...
I'm going to Nokia 7.2
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I bought it today, dont care about camera at all. What i need is good screen, and this phone have it. Never Xiaomi again, my Mi 9 Lite had issue with stupid touch delay on edges of the screen had to return it.
Lack of custom roms suck but i can live with One UI after debloating.