Is the bootloop issue active to sway a new customer elsewhere - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.

MustangLife03 said:
The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.
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its unknown if they really fixed problem... they said they did but still people is reporting bootloop issues with newer phones as well.. the amount of people reporting is low... but they say it takes 8-9 months to show up so we need time for this phones to reach that time and see if they all start bootlooping likes the 505's.
be aware that not all g4 can be bootloader unlocked..

MustangLife03 said:
The G4's price at some spots like Amazon is amazing to pass up. I have done my research on various phones and stay active on everything. With to many phones and variants in existence I can't be an expert on all. I'm still seeing the bootloop issue in forums but LG addressed this like 6 months ago. Are new in box versions of the G4 fixed? Or will these be phones that set in a warehouse for a year and will have the problem. I'm a android enthusiast tweaker. So my next phone has to be a contender with development. The 2 most important things. I recently bought a OnePlus 2 but after a ridiculous amount of negativity regarding hardware/software issues and overall negative real world reviews I sent it back before the 30 days were up. Most of which was recent times sadly. While some people might have a great version OP2 with good luck way to many people were sitting with a $300 brick in another country waiting forever. Sorry to ramble but I've been searching for 2 months now for a great midrange device that can be bought at $300 or less and have development but not have a guaranteed broken feature.
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First of all G4 isnt a faster or a better all performer...if u want performance n quality go for LG V10 and for bootloop its for real most phones are refurbished meaning they were bought last year were only used for a week or more just like urs and then were sold so after a couple a months they were shipped to other countries and were sold off.... these G4s werent at all used hence many didnt pass the bootlloop time period for it to get bricked but many will eventually...This bootloop issue is so real i had to buy a used G3 for 130US$ i use my G4 as a second phone my phone hasnt been bootlooped as of yet but it will certainly so i might just turn it off let it sleep

raptorddd said:
its unknown if they really fixed problem... they said they did but still people is reporting bootloop issues with newer phones as well.. the amount of people reporting is low... but they say it takes 8-9 months to show up so we need time for this phones to reach that time and see if they all start bootlooping likes the 505's.
be aware that not all g4 can be bootloader unlocked..
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jinderation said:
First of all G4 isnt a faster or a better all performer...if u want performance n quality go for LG V10 and for bootloop its for real most phones are refurbished meaning they were bought last year were only used for a week or more just like urs and then were sold so after a couple a months they were shipped to other countries and were sold off.... these G4s werent at all used hence many didnt pass the bootlloop time period for it to get bricked but many will eventually...This bootloop issue is so real i had to buy a used G3 for 130US$ i use my G4 as a second phone my phone hasnt been bootlooped as of yet but it will certainly so i might just turn it off let it sleep
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Appreciate the fast responses guys. I didn't know the bootloop was a time developing type issue. Good to know.
"Jinderation" The V10 is a great looking phone but that is a pure flagship device in my eyes as I can't get one cheaper than $500. At that price I have plenty of options. The G4 H810 I can obtain new for $278-$285 so its a big difference vs the V10. My cutoff is $299 before taxes. Since the bootloop is a real issue I guess I'm gonna have to pass. Seeing as you never know if you got that repackaged type used looks new phone. I love everything about this phone especially at that price with the options.
I don't know why but I first came into the mod world in 2008 with the IPhone. Around 2013 to date I've been in the Android world. Development on hardware and software seems to be rushed on everything now a days and something has "that issue" Owning a IPhone I new if there was a real bug a update was gonna come out fast and even the 2011 4S has up to date IOS 5 years later. These android developers need to stop developing 35 versions of a phone every year and make 3 or 4 and the variants and produce them right. Again thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm back on my search list for that phone.

S5 or carrier model S6 is on ur budget also ..S6 doesnt have any mc slot i also had one sold and bought G4..you can also try buying a repaired G4 directly from LG which already had motherboard replaced the pro is ur device wont get bricked ever or u could check ebay for certain model which were produced in 2015..they also havent reported for bootloop issue... My advice go for Galaxy S5 F model or G3 t mobile lots of mods and custom rom is availabe and also these devices have bootloader unlock and then wait alteast an year for S7 OR its edge version to have its priced down then buy that
Also this is my topic im sharing with u...see the consumer review on 1st page that i have mentioned and yes bootloop is a very serious issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lawsuit-lg-defective-phones-t3408092/page7

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Is it still worth getting the G4?

I'm looking for a mobile device with a good camera and CM support, is it still worth getting the G4? what are other options there that support CM and custom roms? thanks
CM support as in cyanogenmod? Unless if you're getting the very specific model that can be unlocked, I'd say look else where.
I know the Nexus 6P would be a nice choice for both CM and a decent camera. Not sure if the S6 has an unlocked bootloader, if it does, then that's a great choice as well since their camera is just about as good as the G4.
I'd get a G3. G4 has too many issues.
Sammae7 said:
I'd get a G3. G4 has too many issues.
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nah, that's totally wrong . If you get a phone with S/N 500+ then expect to have some issues,but if you get a phone with S/N 600+ don't expect to have issues because phones with 600+ are made in 2016.
How do you know that's wrong? There have been a few G4's in the 600's that bootlooped, as reported on here and other boards. Even fixed G4's are re-looping.
Fact is, the early G4's have been bootlooping recently and we can't say that any newer ones won't until some time passes. It's a time bomb situation. It's not a chance I'm willing to take on a $400 plus device.
Thanks to all for responses
No. Too many devices are bootlooping. Mine was bricked from it last week. Save your money and buy a Nexus 6p
samitro said:
I'm looking for a mobile device with a good camera and CM support, is it still worth getting the G4? what are other options there that support CM and custom roms? thanks
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Good camera and CM don't mix. Pick one. Any time you add CM you lose the stock camera.
The nexus will work but they are only a decent camera (lacks OIS) so not as good as the stock G4 camera.
is it worth getting a G4 ? heh of course. What else can compete with it now at the going price.
Never selling mine. It will be with me until it dies
Look for serials 510 and over and you will be ok. Try to get with warranty.
Thanks, I have the option to get a serial starting with 6 but I've heard that even these are having the bootloop problem, not sure though it is as frequent as the old ones.
No, just get another brand, lg sucks.
samitro said:
Thanks, I have the option to get a serial starting with 6 but I've heard that even these are having the bootloop problem, not sure though it is as frequent as the old ones.
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I'm on a 510 series with zero issues but the battery life is crap but they do have tons of bigger batteries out there like the 6000 mah one from mpj
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I do also have the 510 and everything is perfect, not a single issue.
I wouldn't get a phone that has been widely reported as probably dying at any possible time.
danieldp1990 said:
I do also have the 510 and everything is perfect, not a single issue.
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Same here...
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Aellaes said:
nah, that's totally wrong . If you get a phone with S/N 500+ then expect to have some issues,but if you get a phone with S/N 600+ don't expect to have issues because phones with 600+ are made in 2016.
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Not really. Mine is with 601 S/N and i have the screen flickering problem..
How many devices have gotten the bootloop problem? What would a rough estimate be, any idea's ?
Jesus, what a load of rubbish from some users! The G4 was one of the best devices of 2015, as chosen by every single reviewer out there! Maybe not No1, but definitly among the top. I have owned 3 G4 units at different stages, and am using one right now, and have had 0 issues. It is a perfect phone in every way especially with the low price tag. Sure, I would take a Galaxy Note 5 or S7 Edge over the G4 , but considering im paying about 1/2 of the price (at least in my country, New Zealand), im pretty happy! Flagship specs and performance with half the price.
I will be upgrading to the HTC 10 once it is available, but the G4 has absolutely served me well, and highly recommended to anyone.
All the reviewers praised it before the bootloop hit, six to eight months after release.
Upon release it had some moderate touch screen issues, but was otherwise a good phone. No one is disputing that. The problem is the bootlooping and how LG is/has handled it. It's not a small issue. There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
Sammae7 said:
All the reviewers praised it before the bootloop hit, six to eight months after release.
Upon release it had some moderate touch screen issues, but was otherwise a good phone. No one is disputing that. The problem is the bootlooping and how LG is/has handled it. It's not a small issue. There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
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That's true, you can't deny the hardware issues that happens to some, even though it didn't happen to me. But come on now, the G3 ovee the G4? The ui was just too laggy on the G3, not to mention that horrible over sharpening of the screen. I would still happily pick the G4, CONSIDERING the price difference between the G4 and other flagships. If money was no issue then definitly I would go for other devices. But the value for money is just too good to pass on.
Anyway, I will be back to my beloved HTC once the htc 10 hits the market. Looks like a solid comeback from htc. You might disagree but I will cherish my time with the G4 [emoji4]
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Sammae7 said:
There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
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Nothing but offer repairs ? what pray tell is LG to do.
Those that bought with warranty are covered for as long as the term is.
Those that bought without warranty were taking on a risk. This is true with anything. But then people are so passionate in this forum about phones that nobody thinks twice. And they will do it again in a heartbeat
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
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Camera on the G4 is a generation jump. The same module was used in the G2, G3 and G flex 1 & 2. They changed it with the G4 and what a difference it makes.
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mrk88 said:
How many devices have gotten the bootloop problem? What would a rough estimate be, any idea's ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-poll-users-hardware-failure-t3303547
Puts things into perspective doesn't it.

Getting one tomorrow, bootloop?

Hello all,
So basically I've ordered the G4 (actually not knowing about the issue) and I'm picking it up tomorrow. However, what serial numbers are an absolute no-go and , did LG release a new revision? I am aware that 505 is a no-go but what about 601, 607, 608? As far as I'm concerned 608 is the one to have as it does not fail. I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
It's a H815 - Black leather EU version. Now the place I'm buying it from has excellent service so warranty ( 2 years ) is not a problem, although I reaaalllyy don't want to go through the hassle again with my LG being sent back two times for the plastic cracking.
Price is 350 euros ( which is because of the amazing service which I value a lot at the place I'm buying it from.)
I was contemplating the Mate S but it's too slow and no android 7, LG nexus 5X has the same problems and for 50 euros more the LG is much better.
Please help
Well, I had a dual sim version and it went in bootloop 2 weeks back, after trying everything I had to return it to the vendor as it was still under one year warranty, now waiting for their answer, I have always used Samsung, S1, S2, S3, S5 and got G4 as primary phone in Jan16, such issue never happened with Samsung, I still have S2, S3 and S5 and they all run without any problem, I won't get any LG phone ever.
ila420 said:
Well, I had a dual sim version and it went in bootloop 2 weeks back, after trying everything I had to return it to the vendor as it was still under one year warranty, now waiting for their answer, I have always used Samsung, S1, S2, S3, S5 and got G4 as primary phone in Jan16, such issue never happened with Samsung, I still have S2, S3 and S5 and they all run without any problem, I won't get any LG phone ever.
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Can you please share the EAN-code and first three digits of the serial number?
Xdekker said:
Hello all,
So basically I've ordered the G4 (actually not knowing about the issue) and I'm picking it up tomorrow. However, what serial numbers are an absolute no-go and , did LG release a new revision? I am aware that 505 is a no-go but what about 601, 607, 608? As far as I'm concerned 608 is the one to have as it does not fail. I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
It's a H815 - Black leather EU version. Now the place I'm buying it from has excellent service so warranty ( 2 years ) is not a problem, although I reaaalllyy don't want to go through the hassle again with my LG being sent back two times for the plastic cracking.
Price is 350 euros ( which is because of the amazing service which I value a lot at the place I'm buying it from.)
I was contemplating the Mate S but it's too slow and no android 7, LG nexus 5X has the same problems and for 50 euros more the LG is much better.
Please help
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pick any from 6XX they are lees likely to bootloop. i have mine 601 its working just fine.
Xdekker said:
Hello all,
I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
Please help
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The serial number is written on the sticker on the outside of the box. This will either start with 50X... or 60X...
If it's a 50X model, I would return it without opening the box at all because some of these companies (especially those on Amazon) just hold piles of old stock. Without opening the box, it's an easy return.
I'm using a 60X model and it's a great phone. That said; I have had the occasional flash of static on one side of the screen which was really worrisome at first. It's basically a split second glitch on the screen and is seemingly harmless and only occurs a few times per week. I'm happy to live with that and didn't bother returning the phone.
It may or may not boot loop. Judging from internet though there are very very few reports of 6xx S/N going boot loop. You also have to keep in mind that not all of those reports are real just like with the Samsung explode-gate. There are many ppl who like to report false alerts just because. I don't see too many reports of 6xx going bad. The vast majority of them were the 505's. I blame LG though for all of this. They tried to cover it up never acknowledged it publicly. They sent an email admitting the problem to one Android fan site can't remember which it was and that was all. Meanwhile it took them too long to identify the issue. I don't believe the latest S/N's have this problem. I don't see enough evidence to support this. LG should have come in public and say that they finally fixed it once and for all and say from which S/N and after it's safe. but they didn't. I assume they didn't want to deal with the extra costs of the PR nightmare, the recalls and angry customers and stores.
Alrighty, got myself a 607 version which is great. Black leather with gold buttons, in the beginning I was kinda hesitant because I was expecting the grey buttons but tbh the gold on black looks really classy. Amazing camera. Unfortunately the screen has a yellowish tint to it but I fixed it thanks to this wonderful app Screen balance ( I really was not expecting it to be this good, it basically eliminated the use of a modified kernel because unlike all other apps it runs as an accessibility service.) I will probably post about it.

This phone still worth buying in 2017?

Simple question. I asked the same question on another phone I'm interested in, got some good response, am asking it here.
I need a new phone, battery is getting hinky on my HTC One M8 plus the camera is ca-ca and I need a better camera for my job because I have to use the phone's camera quite often.
Out of principle, I simply don't want to spend more than $350 or so for a phone. I toyed with the idea of going over to the dark side with an iPhone, but I'm not going to spend that much money for a phone, I've got other things I need/want to spend money on instead of phones that cost more than some cars I've driven in my life. I'm also too invested in Google's ecosystem and I just prefer Android.
I also need to be on VZW's network. Have toyed with going GSM, I need to stay with Big Red.
Phones within my price range that I'm interested in are an HTC 10 (my last two phones have been HTCs and I've liked them), a Moto X Pure (that's the other phone I asked this question about), a Samsung S7 (all that glass scares me to death, I'm a klutz and the brick-like cases my phones reside in bear that out), Moto G4 Plus or the new Moto G5 Plus (which is having all kinds of issues on the VZW network unless you disable HD calling) — and this one, which really really intrigues me.
I know it's three years old, but I see that there's still a vibrant community supporting it, I've seen people online call it "the best phone Samsung ever made and probably ever will make," and the specs are still righteous compared to newer and flashier phones.
I don't care about new and flashy, my phone is a tool, period, and I need it to work for me.
The Note 4 also apparently is rootable ... I've never owned a non-rooted phone, have never rooted one myself although I've flashed ROMs. (I've got a line on a mint used one running Noble Rom; can anyone tell me about stability of that?)
So after this long-winded drivel, I repeat the question ... this phone still worth buying in 2017?
Depends what you're looking for I guess. If you're looking for a decent phone for around $200, it's decent. Beware the emmc failure error though, these things seem to choke themselves out at either exactly one year or exactly two years after purchase. Not all of them but a large enough percentage that its worth mentioning.
Edit:Also this is anecdotal but I suspect that refurbished note 4s don't have real gorilla glass. I dropped my note 4 easily hundreds of times from around 3 feet, sometimes with some force, with only the s view cover fit a case. The screen never had problems until insurance replaced mine due to failing emmc, then it cracked on the first drop after that.
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Also, if you get it I would use one of the newer note rom TouchWiz ports
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prw94 said:
Simple question. I asked the same question on another phone I'm interested in, got some good response, am asking it here.
I need a new phone, battery is getting hinky on my HTC One M8 plus the camera is ca-ca and I need a better camera for my job because I have to use the phone's camera quite often.
Out of principle, I simply don't want to spend more than $350 or so for a phone. I toyed with the idea of going over to the dark side with an iPhone, but I'm not going to spend that much money for a phone, I've got other things I need/want to spend money on instead of phones that cost more than some cars I've driven in my life. I'm also too invested in Google's ecosystem and I just prefer Android.
I also need to be on VZW's network. Have toyed with going GSM, I need to stay with Big Red.
Phones within my price range that I'm interested in are an HTC 10 (my last two phones have been HTCs and I've liked them), a Moto X Pure (that's the other phone I asked this question about), a Samsung S7 (all that glass scares me to death, I'm a klutz and the brick-like cases my phones reside in bear that out), Moto G4 Plus or the new Moto G5 Plus (which is having all kinds of issues on the VZW network unless you disable HD calling) — and this one, which really really intrigues me.
I know it's three years old, but I see that there's still a vibrant community supporting it, I've seen people online call it "the best phone Samsung ever made and probably ever will make," and the specs are still righteous compared to newer and flashier phones.
I don't care about new and flashy, my phone is a tool, period, and I need it to work for me.
The Note 4 also apparently is rootable ... I've never owned a non-rooted phone, have never rooted one myself although I've flashed ROMs. (I've got a line on a mint used one running Noble Rom; can anyone tell me about stability of that?)
So after this long-winded drivel, I repeat the question ... this phone still worth buying in 2017?
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Note 4 is very rootable including the V variant many active devs for it. Sprint model here and was an amazon purchase. Been rock solid. Many of the others you mentioned are nice as well. Good luck!
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Modtronix said:
Note 4 is very rootable including the V variant many active devs for it. Sprint model here and was an amazon purchase. Been rock solid. Many of the others you mentioned are nice as well. Good luck!
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I think it is as well . great device lotta development and now I saw they go for $149 new . Will it hang with the Note 8.....no of course it won't it is almost 5 yrs old now but it at 149 unlocked its less than 1/8 th the projected price of the note 8 .
There are lots of reasons to love the Note 4. Replaceable battery, holds up to 256GB micro SD, IR support, big bright screen, rootable with Magisk support, great ROMs from anything from nearly stock to basic 7.11 versions. If you like to use your spen, get a Touchwiz ROM.
I bought my first one on the day of release. Since then, I've bought nine more over the years for friends and family. All (except one) has been rooted and are running newer ROMs. The holdout is my daughter who thinks rooting is bad. Kids, you can't teach them anything ... ugh! However, they are difficult (shall I say tricky) to root, it's well worth it. I bought the N7 when it was released. Had it two weeks. Hated the 'edge' because I would pull that out accidentally, or couldn't close with the X because my finger was right on the edge. I was sorta glad to return it. Needless to say, I bought a refurbished N4 on Amazon and several more since then. My neighbors wanted new phones, but didn't want to pay $600+ for them. I talked them into the N4 and set them up. They love them, but don't use half of the features. Newer phones are slimmer, not as wide, but that never bothered me. The only reason I would want a newer model would be for more RAM, however I like having the extra cash in my pocket, so I'm perfectly happy and will continue with the N4 series as long as I can.
Note 4 well worth the money!
I definitely recommend the note 4 it is an amazing phone best phone i have ever had! You will be very happy if you do decide to purchase im rooted and using twrp and custom rom! I also read a article talking about how people have decided to stick with the note 4 instead of upgrading to note 5 or 7 this is because the note 4 was way ahead of its time because of the harware that is used in it. The phone has a very good processor i highly recommend this phone!
i bought an LGV20 this week, thats going to be sold, and the note 4 will continue to be my daily driver...at least until the note 8 comes out
This phone is spectacular. I have 2. Never any problems at all outside of my own rooting quandaries. Only complaint is front facing cam. I'm not into selfies but if I get decent haircut and I want to remember it or just notate something stupid like my teeth for my own personal use, the front facing cam sucks.
prw94 said:
Simple question. I asked the same question on another phone I'm interested in, got some good response, am asking it here.
I need a new phone, battery is getting hinky on my HTC One M8 plus the camera is ca-ca and I need a better camera for my job because I have to use the phone's camera quite often.
Out of principle, I simply don't want to spend more than $350 or so for a phone. I toyed with the idea of going over to the dark side with an iPhone, but I'm not going to spend that much money for a phone, I've got other things I need/want to spend money on instead of phones that cost more than some cars I've driven in my life. I'm also too invested in Google's ecosystem and I just prefer Android.
I also need to be on VZW's network. Have toyed with going GSM, I need to stay with Big Red.
Phones within my price range that I'm interested in are an HTC 10 (my last two phones have been HTCs and I've liked them), a Moto X Pure (that's the other phone I asked this question about), a Samsung S7 (all that glass scares me to death, I'm a klutz and the brick-like cases my phones reside in bear that out), Moto G4 Plus or the new Moto G5 Plus (which is having all kinds of issues on the VZW network unless you disable HD calling) — and this one, which really really intrigues me.
I know it's three years old, but I see that there's still a vibrant community supporting it, I've seen people online call it "the best phone Samsung ever made and probably ever will make," and the specs are still righteous compared to newer and flashier phones.
I don't care about new and flashy, my phone is a tool, period, and I need it to work for me.
The Note 4 also apparently is rootable ... I've never owned a non-rooted phone, have never rooted one myself although I've flashed ROMs. (I've got a line on a mint used one running Noble Rom; can anyone tell me about stability of that?)
So after this long-winded drivel, I repeat the question ... this phone still worth buying in 2017?
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Honestly, the Note 4 is a fine phone, but I wouldn't spend any money on it at this point. This point was a 2014 flagship. I'd spend that money towards a more recent model. You'll really appreciate the newer Snapdragon 820/821/835 over an antiquated 805, which is a quad-core Cortex-A15. It's a fine phone, but your money will take you much further. If you do choose to buy this device regardless, I wouldn't spend more than $150.
prw94 said:
Simple question. I asked the same question on another phone I'm interested in, got some good response, am asking it here.
I need a new phone, battery is getting hinky on my HTC One M8 plus the camera is ca-ca and I need a better camera for my job because I have to use the phone's camera quite often.
Out of principle, I simply don't want to spend more than $350 or so for a phone. I toyed with the idea of going over to the dark side with an iPhone, but I'm not going to spend that much money for a phone, I've got other things I need/want to spend money on instead of phones that cost more than some cars I've driven in my life. I'm also too invested in Google's ecosystem and I just prefer Android.
I also need to be on VZW's network. Have toyed with going GSM, I need to stay with Big Red.
Phones within my price range that I'm interested in are an HTC 10 (my last two phones have been HTCs and I've liked them), a Moto X Pure (that's the other phone I asked this question about), a Samsung S7 (all that glass scares me to death, I'm a klutz and the brick-like cases my phones reside in bear that out), Moto G4 Plus or the new Moto G5 Plus (which is having all kinds of issues on the VZW network unless you disable HD calling) — and this one, which really really intrigues me.
I know it's three years old, but I see that there's still a vibrant community supporting it, I've seen people online call it "the best phone Samsung ever made and probably ever will make," and the specs are still righteous compared to newer and flashier phones.
I don't care about new and flashy, my phone is a tool, period, and I need it to work for me.
The Note 4 also apparently is rootable ... I've never owned a non-rooted phone, have never rooted one myself although I've flashed ROMs. (I've got a line on a mint used one running Noble Rom; can anyone tell me about stability of that?)
So after this long-winded drivel, I repeat the question ... this phone still worth buying in 2017?
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I got my Verizon Note 4 about 2.5 years ago and I still like it a lot. I did have the failing motherboard problem, but Samsung fixed it completely for only $70. It's working great now and I'm hoping to keep using the phone for at least another two years.
So, yes, I would certainly consider buying another Note 4 today. The only caution I would take is to make sure I bought a brand new one. Otherwise you are likely going to be buying someone else's phone with a failing, or soon to be failing, motherboard. Perhaps a phone that has been refurbished by a very reputable company could be acceptable (e.g., from Samsung, or Verizon), but I would want to make sure it has a very good warranty (preferably much longer than 90 days). I definitely would not buy a used phone that is being sold as-is (even if the buyer claims it works fine).
I have seen new Note 4 phones advertised on Amazon for about $300. Refurbished phones seem to be going for about $200 (but I think the extra $100 is well worth the cost for a new phone).
I've never rooted my Note 4. It sounds like versions from some carriers are easier to root than others. If you are on Verizon it sounds like it may be rootable, but it is more difficult. I would read the Verizon specific threads on rooting the Note 4 if you intend to buy a phone specifically for rooting. Personally I really don't feel the need to root the phone. For me it works fine (although I do use a custom launcher so I can customize the look and feel). I also disable any bloatware that I never use. Unfortunately you can't completely remove the bloatware without root.
The Note 4 is still an amazing phone whether you want to use it stock and unrooted or whether you want to root and flash roms. Be advised tho this particular model is a pain in the rea to roo but keep at it and you'll get it done no problem.
Personally? I can't find a phone to replace it. For me, I'm network flexible, and I've considered a V20 on TMO, but honestly I can't find a reason to switch. Rarely if ever do I feel like I need more ram, and that's basically the only significant feature that the v20 would pose for an upgrade. And I'd miss EVERYTHING ELSE about the samsung. Reasons to buy it? Cheap, plenty of power left in the processor/ram category IMO, REMOVEABLE BATTERY (this is something I can't stress enough for me personally. And I can not stand that newer models don't have it.) IR support (why would they get rid of this, why?! why?!?!) and its TWRP/root capable. Again, something I can hardly stand to live without. My phone is ad blocked, xposed, etc... I'll be eating out and I'll start changing TV volumes and my friends just get this WTF look on their face... And I can't find a newer phone to beat it, that has all the same features, and can still be TWRP. My opinion? Yeah, it IS the best phone, and maybe the last GOOD phone samsung ever made. I know there's tradeoff arguments to be made. But they'll drag me to the grave with my note 4. No way I'll be switching until the last boat leaves the dock, and the phone simply can't function in society any more. Hopefully by then, there will once again be another option with removeable battery, IR, TWRP.... but we can only hope.
For what its worth, I switched from a note 4 to the v20. I miss the stylus occasionally but there's a solution for screen writing included with the phone. I like the v20 more
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I've had mine since about 6 months after release. It was a decent phone when it was still locked, but once we got root, it became a phenomenal device. I've been eligible for upgrade for over a year, but I haven't seen a new phone I'm willing to replace it with. Getting hard to find removable batteries and SD cards. I'm curious about the upcoming Pixel 2, but mostly I'm just hoping my phone will last forever.
At this point, if it dies, I'll probably hunt down another Note 4.
I think the note 4 has been a decent phone. I purchased mine new in 2015. It's always had a really poor camera that dosent auto focus without shaking it repeatedly (common issue). It's also had a round of boot looping, which could only be corrected with a factory reset. After boot looping and other random crashing issues where it suddenly powers off. I've decided to move to an LG v20. P. S. You can buy a brand new note 5 for 259.
For fun, thought I'd drop in now that 2018 is looming.
I love my Note 4 (T-Mobile). I'm a flashaholic, and there's plenty out there (though my ext sd card makes Marshmallow roms my preference, since Nougat keeps wanting to reformat the 128g sd I have in this thing!).
I've flashed a few dozen different roms on this thing and it doesn't mind at all. Bought it used off ebay (I didn't know about the emm memory mess back then, which would have given me some pause even if ebay does favor the buyer). But it runs perfectly for me. I use a rubber case because I'm paranoid.
Reasons I really like this phone?
1. big screen.
2. durable.
3. REMOVABLE battery.
4. External SD card slot (at least 128g works just fine, maybe even more?)
Reasons to not go with it?
1. Ya gotta have the newest and shiniest.
2. Small but real possibility you'll run into the emmc memory issue (if you do, get your money back from whoever sold the phone to you and/or chuck it in the trash - game over).
I love the Note 4 and was thinking about rooting it. It's the longest I've ever had a phone. Been about 3 years now and it still runs strong for daily use. Most people don't even use a phone for its full potential. It's a tool for their social media, snapping a few pics, browsing the web, paying some bills (which we all hate), getting directions, etc. As a daily driver, it's been great and I can't find a reason to upgrade to a flashier new phone for $800 plus. I'm the type that if it still works well, then there's no point in replacing it. It still performs as well as middle of the pack models even 4 years after it's release. And the 515ppi 5.7" screen with 2k quality doesn't make the phone feel dated at all. Only the style of the phone feels dated but most of us have a case on it anyway. So hopefully with a new 3220mah battery and a root, this phone will last me a little longer since it still does what I tell it to and with T-Mobile LTE, which is nearly 2 times faster than Sprint, and WiFi through Verizon Fios keeps it snappy and feeling smooth.

Barely any G7 activity

For a new, high end phone covering all carriers (in the US at least) and service in Europe and Korea, I am surprised how little activity there is here. I expected discussions in accessories and Q&A at least.
To me this does not bode well for the phone and/or XDA.
OnceAMatrixMan said:
For a new, high end phone covering all carriers (in the US at least) and service in Europe and Korea, I am surprised how little activity there is here. I expected discussions in accessories and Q&A at least.
To me this does not bode well for the phone and/or XDA.
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things have changed in the last year or two. flagships get less attention nowadays. companies have started locking down bootloaders and raising prices. it takes longer for new flagships to get into the hands of consumers. the g7 will get the attention it deserves in time, but rooting and ROM discussion is probably going to be mostly for the mid-range and low-end devices from now on. there just isn't much need to root and mod a device like the g7. it's already really fast, feature-packed and bug free (at least since my update to 10g)
Honestly I'd get the OP6 over the G7 it's cheaper and has root nuff said.
My phone died so I had to get something quick and G7 was on sale - kinda. No complaints so far, but I hear ya - if the Pixel3 was out...
I understand in that situation and would probably do the same. Although at this point I'm waiting to see what the V40 is going to be like. I really liked my v20 but got the Note 8 because of it having root.
It was the V10 that died on me. Best phone IMO, and thought I'd run it for another 5 years.
Still surprised not more discussion on cases and screen protectors. Reminds me of the early days of the V10 when you could hear crickets, and it never really picked up from there.
Well we don't need anything due to phone being great
but I got it for 420 eur, and Op6 is 550 eur. So I get 130 eur plus wireless charging, sound, .....
OnceAMatrixMan said:
For a new, high end phone covering all carriers (in the US at least) and service in Europe and Korea, I am surprised how little activity there is here. I expected discussions in accessories and Q&A at least.
To me this does not bode well for the phone and/or XDA.
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Well considering its a month old phone with US unlocked models just shipping 2 days ago, its a bit early to assume or jump to conclusions.
Also this is an english speaking forum and the bulk of LG sales will not be in English speaking countries.
For other comments from users about root, looks like we have a base magisk and weve got unlocked bootloaders on at least the OEM version. Honestly though, i really dont see a massive need to root compared to other devices.
Give it time. Enthusiasm will pick up.
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datafoo said:
Well considering its a month old phone with US unlocked models just shipping 2 days ago, its a bit early to assume or jump to conclusions.
Also this is an english speaking forum and the bulk of LG sales will not be in English speaking countries.
For other comments from users about root, looks like we have a base magisk and weve got unlocked bootloaders on at least the OEM version. Honestly though, i really dont see a massive need to root compared to other devices.
Give it time. Enthusiasm will pick up.
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I don't feel the need to root the phone either and I'm coming from the OPO so the modding game is strong in me. ?
For being the first releases of the rom I have to say that I'm pretty pleased on how the phone is behaving.
The only thing that I'm waiting is recording 4k videos at 60 fps and Android 8.1.

Is this forum and the Verizon Note 8 dead???

The last several posts in this subforum have gone with no replies and some have been up for quite awhile. I have also noticed on other subforums in this forum that it has been quite some time since the most recent posts. I understand that the ability to root and modify is a bit difficult with these but there are still common issues being discussed that have nothing to do with rooting or modding.
It seems like the Verizon Note 8 has reached the end of life and it may be time to move to something different. What is everyone's thoughts on this?
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The last several posts in this subforum have gone with no replies and some have been up for quite awhile. I have also noticed on other subforums in this forum that it has been quite some time since the most recent posts. I understand that the ability to root and modify is a bit difficult with these but there are still common issues being discussed that have nothing to do with rooting or modding.
It seems like the Verizon Note 8 has reached the end of life and it may be time to move to something different. What is everyone's thoughts on this?
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I think it's pretty much reached it's EOL and some of us are just still helping out where we can but I doubt that there's much if at all any work for root or other modifications going on.
WOW can't believe such a popular phone could have so little Dev Interest?
Just Got a cheap refurbished one that came unlocked but if there's no support I should return it.
What other decent rootable phones are there with great dev support?
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WOW can't believe such a popular phone could have so little Dev Interest?
Just Got a cheap refurbished one that came unlocked but if there's no support I should return it.
What other decent rootable phones are there with great dev support?
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That kind of happens because everyone wants the latest greatest phone and they just move on pretty quickly.. I'm guilty of doing that myself because every time a new phones out I have to have it lol .
I just fixed my phone
My Verizon note 8 had a broken screen, a broken back panel, and only 80% of the original battery capacity. My Gear S3's had a battery drain issue, so I went to a Samsung repair center to get both fixed. I really don't like this smartphone consumerism because a high-end smartphone like Note 8 should have a life span that is similar to a laptop. I may get an Android 12 phone soon because my Note 8's Android 9 is becoming too old. I really don't want to spend money for a new phone because my Note 8 still runs very smoothly.
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I just fixed my phone
I really don't like this smartphone consumerism because a high-end smartphone like Note 8 should have a life span that is similar to a laptop. I may get an Android 12 phone soon because my Note 8's Android 9 is becoming too old. I really don't want to spend money for a new phone because my Note 8 still runs very smoothly.
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I fully agree -- I'm incredibly disappointed to find that this phone that I've had for 3+ years, still in flawless condition, will soon basically lose functionality for newer applications.
It's more powerful than some smartphones being released today, the camera is fantastic, and I just want to root it and get some extra life out of it. Android 9 is so old by phone standards at this point, and this phone is entirely too capable to be stuck on an obsolete OS like that.
It's crap like this that is driving me away from Samsung -- my last several phones were Samsung, all of my TVs are Samsung (some have the same EOL issue with not receiving updates anymore, others work flawlessly -- funny enough, the older Smart TVs seem to work better than the "newer" ones I have).
Contemplating buying an iPhone 12 Pro Max so hard right now.

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