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The Biggest Issues and Gripes of the Galaxy Nexus?

Hey folks, I may be swapping my HTC Amaze 4G for a Galaxy Nexus soon, but before I do, I'd like to know the general opinions of the downsides to owning a Galaxy Nexus! I've read about a lot of the weaknesses of the Galaxy Nexus, but until I actually own one, it's pretty hard for me to pinpoint the legitimacy of these points that I see in video reviews and whatnot, so I'd like to ask you guys regarding your first hand experiences with the device. List your complaints about the Galaxy Nexus here, any contribution is appreciated!
What I've come up with so far:
- lack of microSD card
- camera is decent but not as good as it could've been
- although the screen is gorgeous, the pentile display doesn't allow it to be as clear and crisp as it should be
- build quality of the phone leaves much to be desired
I plan on rooting and installing custom ROMs as soon as I bring the device home, so please put that into consideration as well
Thanks in advance!

- lack of microSD card:
this one had me worried too when i first got the nexus but its not that bad you just have to keep and eye on the storage.
- camera is decent but not as good as it could've been:
its still pretty good and plenty good enough for casual pics. This is a phone we;re talking about, any $200 camera will take better pics than most phones maybe with the exception of the nokia 808 but that thing is more camera than phone.
- although the screen is gorgeous, the pentile display doesn't allow it to be as clear and crisp as it should be:
best screen ive used, imo its the best screen on a phone until the gs3 comes out with its rgb 720p super amoled plus screen. There are better screens that are 720p rgb but they are LCD not amoled, depends what you like better both have their advantages.
- build quality of the phone leaves much to be desired:
My major complaint with build quality are the screen inconsistencies. check out this thread for more info. otherwise the phone is solid, i really like the curved design it feels more natural against your face or in your pocket.
if you are getting a straight trade for the amaze than you are getting the better part of the deal.

There is absolutely nothing I can complain about, as I come from a Nexus One. I'm not even entitled to complain.

- pentile... i can see the pixels very easily on my gnex compared to an iphone4... i still prefer AMOLED though
- frontlit CMOS camera
- no cheap pogo-pin charger
everything else about this phone is pretty much perfect

The screen is totally clear as pentile isn't so noticeable at such a high resolution. Not sure where you heard that.
And the build quality is actually superb, super solid and no creaking at all. Its very impressive.

RogerPodacter said:
The screen is totally clear as pentile isn't so noticeable at such a high resolution. Not sure where you heard that.
And the build quality is actually superb, super solid and no creaking at all. Its very impressive.
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I hear a slight creaking from the "lid".

Low ringtone audio

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Low ringtone audio
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volume+ will sort that
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- lack of microSD card
Not an issue for me
- camera is decent but not as good as it could've been
I really wish the camera was better, this is my biggest gripe.
- although the screen is gorgeous, the pentile display doesn't allow it to be as clear and crisp as it should be
Not an issue, love the screen
- build quality of the phone leaves much to be desired
Not an issue, I like the back-plate, curved design and weight off the phone is spread out so it feels optimum light
I was using AKOP and now stock 4.0.4, I sometimes experience data drops, all of a sudden bars turn gray, I just reboot the phone. I'm sure it'll be fixed at some point.
Overall fantastic phone.

My biggest gripe is that I can't think of a gripe. I like being pensive, angry, bitter, despondent, even aggressively violent, but this phone has turned me into a lovable cute like a puppy type cuddle bug.

mudferret said:
My biggest gripe is that I can't think of a gripe. I like being pensive, angry, bitter, despondent, even aggressively violent, but this phone has turned me into a lovable cute like a puppy type cuddle bug.
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This deserves a thank you.

Biggest gripe? Not being able to make a reliable phone call with this device. My device suffers from what's known as the "audio reboot" or "one-way audio" issue. Not every device has this issue so if you buy Nexus, it's a crap shoot. Or, if you enjoy installing custom ROMs you may also not suffer from this issue. And finally, while I haven't found 100% definitive proof of this, it seems that it's only the Verizon/CDMA version that suffers from this... I don't think anyone with the AT&T/GSM version has this problem.
The next update, which was scheduled for "sometime in March" then "early April" - both which came and went and still no update - is supposed to fix this issue. If it does not, I'm going with another device. I need my phone to function as a phone and right now, it does not do that on a reliable basis.
Honestly, other than that one (but very important) issue, the device is flawless.

No SD card is my only gripe but I knew that going in. So I can't complain all that much. Just gotta manage data more often and can't keep backups on phone as aggressively.
bow chicka wow wow.

My complaints are more so concerning the Os as opposed to the phone itself. Sometimes my widgets stop working, Beautiful Home the time stays stuck and I have to reboot. And often times the YouTube widget will not load. I'm using ADW Launcher EX, don't know if that has anything to do with it but it happens. I have screen burn in too. Where the navigation bar is and the virtual buttons on the bottom of the phone. Whenever I watch a full screen video or movie it's noticeable, and it's hard to ignore once you notice it. I wish they would have put in a better GPU and not one that is 2 years old too because the longer I use the phone the more it lags don't know if it's the ram or GPU but it lags from time to time. And the reason Google hasn't fixed whatever needs to be fixed so it can be as smooth as Crapples IOs is beyond me. But it's better than the Nexus One. So I'm good until the Quad Core Nexus is released.
From my Sexii G Nexii 4.0.4

[email protected] said:
My complaints are more so concerning the Os as opposed to the phone itself. Sometimes my widgets stop working, Beautiful Home the time stays stuck and I have to reboot. And often times the YouTube widget will not load. I'm using ADW Launcher EX, don't know if that has anything to do with it but it happens. I have screen burn in too. Where the navigation bar is and the virtual buttons on the bottom of the phone. Whenever I watch a full screen video or movie it's noticeable, and it's hard to ignore once you notice it. I wish they would have put in a better GPU and not one that is 2 years old too because the longer I use the phone the more it lags don't know if it's the ram or GPU but it lags from time to time. And the reason Google hasn't fixed whatever needs to be fixed so it can be as smooth as Crapples IOs is beyond me. But it's better than the Nexus One. So I'm good until the Quad Core Nexus is released.
From my Sexii G Nexii 4.0.4
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Nova launcher prime.
bow chicka wow wow.

I only wish that there was universal mass storage or sd card support so the thing would work with my car stereo. Going from stereo integration to aux cable was kind of a buzz kill.
And the camera is ok but I wish it were better too.

The phone is so slick you'll likely drop it and the screen may break. Better get a protective case for it. My Diztronic Rev3 case was inexpensive and adds needed grip. Great phone, otherwise IMHO.

I too came from an Amaze 4g...and man do I miss the camera. I was running bulletproof...but still doesn't come close to how smooth the Gnexus is. If you were looking to upgrade, id say go for it...but if your coming from a sense device, you might wanna check out the HTC one s or X.
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babymatteo said:
I too came from an Amaze 4g...and man do I miss the camera. I was running bulletproof...but still doesn't come close to how smooth the Gnexus is. If you were looking to upgrade, id say go for it...but if your coming from a sense device, you might wanna check out the HTC one s or X.
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I thought I saw your name around the Amaze 4G forums before
I'm sure I'll miss the camera too, but it's a tradeoff I'm willing to make for an overall better phone, plus I never really liked Sense anyway since it has way too much overhead on the OS
Thanks so much for input people, much appreciated!
One thing I forgot to mention was the screen burn-ins, I've heard that they get pretty noticeable after 6 months or so... can anyone provide some insight on this and if there's a possible solution/prevention?

what i hate is the sound whenever i set it on a table or something...it rattles (i know its the autofocus on the camera...its waaaaaay to loose on this phone)

Anyone upgrading from Nexus 6P?

I'm really thinking about getting this phone, but would like to hear some opinions on people who made the switch from the Nexus 6P. Can anyone give some input on that? Thanks!

I have the nexus 6p and will be getting the htc 10 since I have always had an htc phone. Will keep the 6p though. Just waiting on the carbon gray htc 10 for verizon.

I did. Love the smaller size, much better build quality and feels a whole lot more solid. Sense is pretty nice too.

I want to try something new from my 6P although I really don't need to. At first I was considering the S7E, G5, and now the 10. Each phone has its pro's and con's... but the 10 seems to be the most enticing overall. The only thing that would make it perfect for me were if it were actually front facing speakers, OLED, and a little bigger screen size... but other than that, I think it'll be a great phone. Maybe I'll enjoy the smaller footprint.
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eneka said:
I did. Love the smaller size, much better build quality and feels a whole lot more solid. Sense is pretty nice too.
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I only got to listen to the speakers in a VZW store. How do they stack up to the 6P? Also, how is the screen brightness and contrast? I'm hoping the contrast is at least as good as the LG G5.

Bought my 6P early April, i returned it on the 12th just after the 10 was announced
what i liked?
Decent Screen,
Decent Battery life,
Dev support & software
Fast charging
Front facing speakers
camera? (good but no 1080*60 recording was a downfall)
Why i returned it?
Headset volume I listen to music via 24/7 the headphone jack dac was poor, the max volume was low( even while rooted with elemental x kernel, power amp etc)
Size, i had no issues holding it & got used to the size pretty fast coming from the 4'7 m7 however it felt uncomfortable in my pocket while sitting down, i was constantly checking to make sure it wasn't falling out.
Build. IT felt cheap for a metal phone, it didn't feel as soild as my m7, i was paranoid regarding the bending around the power button
Price, wasn't really competitive at the time of purchase £449 vs £513 for HTC 10

Always been a fan of HTC and I loved my M8 but the camera was horrible and battery life was meh.
Going from the Moto X Pure to the Nexus 6P felt like a big difference in overall quality. And then I got my hands on the HTC 10 and it completely blows the 6P out of the water in my personal opinion.

I switched from a Nexus 6P to the HTC 10 and definitely prefer the 10 overall. Like Diz said, the audio quality of the 10 is MUCH better than the 6P, in both Bluetooth and with headphones. The 6P really gets spanked by the 10 in this area.
The size of the 10 is much better for me. It's totally a personal preference, of course, but the 6P was just way too big for my hands.
Battery life has been fine for me so far. It gets me through a day without having to recharge. When I do recharge with the QuickCharge 3.0 charger, it charges fast! My 10 was at 34% battery the other night, I put it on the charger and it indicated the phone would be fully charged in 30 minutes. :good:
Build quality of the 10 feels great, it's a very nice, solid-feeling phone.
I've been fine with the Sense skin, even as a guy who prefers stock Android. I just hope HTC will do timely updates for this phone as time goes on.
Fingerprint scanner has worked fine for me. I think it's a tad slower than the one on the 6P, but nothing to fuss about, IMHO.
Overall, I personally haven't found any major issues with the 10. When I pre-ordered it, I wasn't sure if I'd prefer it to the 6P or not, but I'm glad I decided to give it a try. I really like the phone and have made it my daily driver, while my 6P will now be sitting on my desk as my emergency backup phone.

The screen color is a lot better than 6p. However I think the camera is better on 6p. When you are taking the pic on the 10 it looks great, but right as I click the button it seems like the still is not as great. Idk it's weird. But I prefer the size. I love the thinness of the 6p but it was too long for me. I prefer the HTC UI overall.

heylailaa said:
The screen color is a lot better than 6p. However I think the camera is better on 6p. When you are taking the pic on the 10 it looks great, but right as I click the button it seems like the still is not as great. Idk it's weird. But I prefer the size. I love the thinness of the 6p but it was too long for me. I prefer the HTC UI overall.
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The camera sensors are the same. HTC is just having trouble getting the exposure correct. Everything else is pretty solid. In the meantime, I'd recommend just using Pro mode to slightly tweaked the shots. You will get better pictures than the 6P guaranteed - f/1.8, OIS, and more manual control will make this the best camera on a mobile device yet. How so? The 6P wins a lot of contests already. As mentioned, the HTC 10 can only improve upon that.

I have both, basically the size of the 6P is what did it for me. Too huge... And I don't like amoled
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I have both and currently the 6P takes better pictures and this is after the HTC update.
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I also switched from a 6p. On the 6p I was having trouble with Bluetooth and the phone got really slow for whatever reason.. On top of that I prefer a smaller phone and the 4gb ram does make a difference. So far so good with the htc 10, the camera is pretty much the same. I wish they would update the quick settings but besides that it's a winner.
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Thanks for the input guys, hearing so many positive things. I think I will give it a try.

Ditto to everyone concerning the size. Much, much better everyday phone as it now actually fits in my pocket.
In terms of screen, I still prefer AMOLED to the LCD panel on the 10. Regardless, the 10's is still great.

I'm going to be a dissenting vote. I now have both and I think I'll be returning the 10. The size of the 6P was bugging me and I loved my M7 (I've kept it as a backup for the last several phones I've had) so I bit the bullet and preordered. Have had it for a few days now.
Now don't get me wrong, the 10 is a fantastic phone - every good thing that has been said about it is true. Build quality is amazing, camera is great, speedy, the boomsound is good, Sense is much better now, etc. However, there are a few things that are bugging me enough to return it.
1. Purely a matter of preference, but I like the AMOLED better than the LCD.
2. The green/amber only LED is annoying. I color code contacts so that I can tell who I have texts, etc. from without turning on the screen in meetings. Not an option with the 10.
3. Bluetooth issues with my car - unlike the four other phones I've had with this car, the 10 won't sync contacts. It will show the last several calls, but only as numbers, not names. Apparently this has been a problem with several HTCs and particularly German cars. I finally solved it, mostly, by installing the Google phone and contacts APKs from APK Mirror. Now the contacts appear, but there are random, weird duplicates. Must be something unique to the HTC dialer/people apps.
4. When I use voice typing over bluetooth, the audio in the car doesn't pause, unlike with 3 of the last four phones I've had.
5. Shockingly, I've gotten so used to the screen size of the 6P that the 5.2" screen seems unnaturally small! I'm sure I would get back used to it over time.
Most or all of these are personal preferences or things that are particular to my situation and are not meant as general criticisms of the phone.

I have both a 6P and a 10 and I like the 10 much more... Except for the performance. I expected it with the 820 and near stock android skin it would fly, but just going into settings and scrolling down all the way in one flick shows dropped frames etc. In apps ( Especially weather timeline) I see scrolling much smoother on the 6P. Really surprising. I'm thinking of returning the 10 and getting either the exynos S7 or LG G5 because I also had the G5 and that was hands down the fastest phone I've ever used.

I have an opportunity to buy a 6p 64gb silver for 390$ brand new but I also don't know because I kind of want the 10 :\

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I have both a 6P and a 10 and I like the 10 much more... Except for the performance. I expected it with the 820 and near stock android skin it would fly, but just going into settings and scrolling down all the way in one flick shows dropped frames etc. In apps ( Especially weather timeline) I see scrolling much smoother on the 6P. Really surprising. I'm thinking of returning the 10 and getting either the exynos S7 or LG G5 because I also had the G5 and that was hands down the fastest phone I've ever used.
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That's weird, you should try LeeDroid ROM.

Hmm have been using the 6p and now want to try the 10 simply because of the sd card slot. However am more concerned with the performance issue because the 6p is the smoothest phone I have ever used. Can anyone who made the switch please give an opinion on overall smoothness and scrolling please?

Thinking of buying this phone, what are the ups/downs ?

Hi,
Im thinking of buying this phone, what are the ups/downs ? strengths weaknesses you have encountered.
Do you hate it/love it ? I need to know, i've read too many articles but some seem biased imho.
Thanks alot.

Perhaps not the best phone at everything but the best at its price point at the moment imho.
Depends really what is important to you.

I was trying to decide between this and S7 edge. The latter is a slightly better phone (smaller footprint, better screen and camera, bigger battery, higher cool factor, wireless charging, waterproofness...) and if it was £50 more than Op3 I would have gone for it. But I could not justify the £200 difference and went for the Op3.
And I have no regrets whatsoever. The phone feels a lot more premium that I had expected, it is blazing fast, the batter is also quite good and I have no issues with the screen at all. It is by far the best phone I have ever owned and I generally switch phones every six to eight months so have tried a few.
There is a 15 day money back guarantee so I recommend that you go for it and if you don't like it you can always return it. I suspect that will not be the case though...

st0rm77 said:
Hi,
Im thinking of buying this phone, what are the ups/downs ? strengths weaknesses you have encountered.
Do you hate it/love it ? I need to know, i've read too many articles but some seem biased imho.
Thanks alot.
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Can't speak for anyone else but my favorite things about this phone are:
1) Quick charging. With the Dash charger is very quick, inline with what's advertised. I've charged the phone on a plane using a DC charger and it was fast as well.
2) The finger print reader is super fast.
3) Overall the phone feels fast, much faster than my old Moto X Pure.
Things I don't like:
1) Screen is too dim using adaptive brightness.
2) Sound is weak compared to the Moto X Pure.

the samsung S7/e definitely has better specs, but even if it had a clean stock version of Android (which it definitely does not, TouchWiz sucks), the OP3 is a far more cost effective phone.
A better comparison since now it's almost the same price is the Nexus 6P ($404 on Amazon Prime Day (64GB) for example, and 32GB model has been $380 several times now).
Main differences between these two is:
- QHD vs 1080p (you won't notice unless you do VR)
- OP3 has an alert slider (and disables Automatic DND rules) vs N6P has normal DND mode w/ automatic rules etc
- Camera is better on Nexus 6P (unnoticeable during the day, but during low light photos you can tell)
- Camera App is MUCH faster on OP3 - both at launch and taking photos
- OP3 is smoother/faster & keeps more apps in RAM
- Fingerprint Sensor on front vs on back (both incredibly fast, location is a preference)
- OP3 has optional Capacitive buttons vs N6P has only software buttons
- N6P has Slightly bigger screen (5.7" vs 5.5") and is slightly (20g) heavier - but both are equally thin
- Stock Android M (gets faster updates) vs Oxygen OS (slightly slower updates but has more customization features)

i enjoyed this phone, wanted to keep it, but my 6P takes slightly better pictures. I have kids which i like to photograph whenever i get a chance and it's really important they look best. Its not like the camera is bad or anything, i loved it, in fact. Just think i would stick to my Nexus for now. I also want to try the Axon 7 and need to make the $ back for it lol. However, it was tough to make that decision yesterday

The cons for me;
- no Do not Disturb software. Have to use the slider button. It tends to override 3rd party apps too. May have found one working, but reliability is questionable
- no automated night mode, weak screen dimming software. Again have to use 3rd party, Lux, but having some problem with that app (slows down notification panel)
- I was on a cheap chinese phone last year, but it had a 4000mah battery. Kind of hard to get back to a flimsy 3000mah. Had to install xposed, greenify, Forcedoze, Amplify, trying to boost it to have a decent battery. I couldn't care less about Dash Charge. I charge my phone once a day, and that's while I sleep. I don't carry the Dash charger with me. That is not practical and I hope the people at 1+ and other companies stop ****ing around with the battery size. Device is really light. Really could have used better battery.
- what a poor support. Still couldn't get a refund on the case and tempered glass they had to cancel due to out-of-stock (but still charged me). Ticket is still open going back and forth. Just because of that I will think twice before ordering directly from them.
- I am not a fan of sound coming out from the bottom of the phone. I like ZTE Axon 7 take on stereo sound.
pros
- dev friendly, so roms will most likely fix most software issues
- seems pretty solid. No freeze/crash/random reboots so far, and the only slow downs I experienced in the UI are caused by some compatibility issue I have with Lux permanent notification.
- I like that the home button is capacitive. Won't break due to over use (happened on my last phone)
- providing I find a stable and bug-limited rom, best android phone I owned

2x4 said:
the samsung S7/e definitely has better specs, but even if it had a clean stock version of Android (which it definitely does not, TouchWiz sucks), the OP3 is a far more cost effective phone.
A better comparison since now it's almost the same price is the Nexus 6P ($404 on Amazon Prime Day (64GB) for example, and 32GB model has been $380 several times now).
Main differences between these two is:
- QHD vs 1080p (you won't notice unless you do VR)
- OP3 has an alert slider (and disables Automatic DND rules) vs N6P has normal DND mode w/ automatic rules etc
- Camera is better on Nexus 6P (unnoticeable during the day, but during low light photos you can tell)
- Camera App is MUCH faster on OP3 - both at launch and taking photos
- OP3 is smoother/faster & keeps more apps in RAM
- Fingerprint Sensor on front vs on back (both incredibly fast, location is a preference)
- OP3 has optional Capacitive buttons vs N6P has only software buttons
- N6P has Slightly bigger screen (5.7" vs 5.5") and is slightly (20g) heavier - but both are equally thin
- Stock Android M (gets faster updates) vs Oxygen OS (slightly slower updates but has more customization features)
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You certainly will notice the difference of the Op3's Pen Tile 1080p Amoled display compared with a QuadHD Amoled, even in normal use. That's in direct comparison. Use the Op3 for a while and you likely forget.
As to value, the OP3 is clearly better value than £600 flagships but for me, the benefits the S7(E) has are worth the extra. (I cycle a lot and the water resistance is incredibly useful as is the bright screen).
If the above is not too important I'd thoroughly recommend the OnePlus.
(Still, mine is provisionally sold and soon on its way to its new and probably happy owner).

The previous comments all pretty much sum up what I would have to add. Highly recommend the phone...it's worth every penny of the $399 and then some. Very satisfied with my purchase.
I'm going to make one observation about the screen though. 95% of the time, I can't discern a difference between the OP3's 1080p screen and my old Nexus 6 1440p screen. That 5% kicks in when I want to view photos that I've snapped on the phone. Zooming in to those photos creates a considerable loss in detail. This was not the case with my Nexus 6. Zooming into photos retained so much detail and clarity, even though the N6 camera is not as good as the OP3 camera.
My two cents!

Op3 have some flaws,but not everyone experiencing,which are mostly software related which can be fixed with updates ... But it doesn't mean a flawed phone, rather it is best phone on which money can be spent without too much thinking.
By the way every phone whether it cost some penny or our whole arm and leg, has some flaws , that doesn't mean phone is not good.
Therefore you have read several review blog,device specific sections here on xda which will help you to know what are most common problems with particular phone.If these problems are to severe that software update or dev community can't fix then you have to make careful decision before purchase.
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About One plus 3 - It is very strong device,its perfomance is strong in every department,and is above the money you pay .
and that Dash Charge its awesome, ridiculously fast ,70 minutes and is goes from zero to hero

For me it's all about development. This device is more stable, faster and nicer than my previous g3. S7 is fine phone and even tw improve a lot, but on open phone, there are unlimited possibilities, on s7 you have just one.

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You certainly will notice the difference of the Op3's Pen Tile 1080p Amoled display compared with a QuadHD Amoled, even in normal use. That's in direct comparison. Use the Op3 for a while and you likely forget.
As to value, the OP3 is clearly better value than £600 flagships but for me, the benefits the S7(E) has are worth the extra. (I cycle a lot and the water resistance is incredibly useful as is the bright screen).
If the above is not too important I'd thoroughly recommend the OnePlus.
(Still, mine is provisionally sold and soon on its way to its new and probably happy owner).
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I would agree that side-by-side you can tell a difference, but it's irrelevant for day to day use.
Also, far more noticeable is the difference in both DPI, and in colors (unless you enable sRGB mode on both phones).

No dash charging on custom ROMs sucks, but OP should be releasing source code for this later this month right?
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I can't speak for other countries, I live in The Netherlands for the record.
Now, the big plus for me is the price.
The oneplus 3 only costed me € 399,-
If I were to look for other flagships, I would look at these prices
Galaxy S7 : € 650,- on average
Nexus 6P : € 530,- on average
LG G5 : € 550,- on average
Now my last phone was a 2013 Nexus 5 and honestly I didn't feel that upgrading to a 5X was worth it.
But then if i look at other flagships, prices around here seem to rise exponentially.
Yes, ofc I think that an S7 is a great phone, but € 250,- better on average? (Considering all the bloatware you get with it, Its really not worth that much more. Also no support for development really with locked bootloaders.)
Pro's
- Clean version of android with more features
- No bloatware
- 6GB of RAM (For people who say RAM doesn't matter, try using a Nexus 9 Tablet with its 2GB of memory with a 64-bit OS. You will want to throw the thing out of your window before the end of the day.)
- price to value
- great fingerprint scanner
Cons
- only 1 place where you can buy it (online)
- doesn't have all the features like an S7 has (water resistant etc. )
- Slower updates compared to a Nexus device
- No option to use a schedule for "Do Not Disturb", instead you have a slider. (I like the slider but why the **** did they take out the damn scheduler. I like my downtime every night from 23:00 till around 07:00, Now I have to do it manually.)

Let me just add bad camera quality on custom ROMs.
Hopefully Oneplus will release the camera apk
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switch my 6p for the 10

Anyone done this ?
Been offered a swap for my 6p,
I'm relatively happy with the 6p apart from the crappy battery and most Devs moving onto the pixel.
How good is the camera in comparison and video?

nope performance is not faster than 6P.
camera cant beat 6p.

keaheng said:
nope performance is not faster than 6P.
camera cant beat 6p.
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Lol

If you are used to Nexus devices better switch to Pixel.
Tbh Ive used a lot of phones and the pictures and videos Ive made with them in the last years are all good.
If you want outstanding picture or video quality you have to use a DSLR or Video Camera.
But I would send that ugly brick called 6p to hell and use anything but it.

I'm gonna copy my experience I wrote this morning from another thread:
- Design and Build Quality:
The design is better on the HTC 10. It feels great in your hands, and it's a really solid little tank, seeming to be way more robust than the 6P. The 6P was well built, but I wouldn't say it was top notch (gaps between display glass and frame, camera visor, etc.) - Whereas I would consider the HTC 10 to be one of the best built phones I ever held in my hands. Really. Worth to note are the fantastic buttons and their Layout, which wasn't great on the 6P. Also, the size is simply perfect for my hands. I don't miss the size of the 6P, the HTC feels especially better in one hand and never feels too small to me. By the way:
<- This is straight Nokia 3310 quality and it definitely feels like that.
- Display:
Where I was the most sceptical about was the Display. I sweared to me to never buy a phone without an AMOLED display again, since the black levels on my last iPhone 6 and f.e. one of my older HTC M7 were straight horrible. Light grey, to be precise. And I just can't stand that. I gotta say, that I'm still insanely surprised about the HTC 10s display. You would almost think that it has actually an AMOLED display since the colors pop and shine. It's not as unnatural as the 6Ps display, I would say it's overall more appealing than the AMOLED one (what I didn't expect at all). Also the black levels: in darker rooms, they seem to be dark grey, which is fantastic. You won't notice the not-black-to-black-bezel until you really focus on it.
- Sound Quality:
The 6P was (especially with some EX tweaking) way, way louder while the HTC 10 is clearer and sounds more 'full' and also warmer, especially in near field, f.e. while laying in bed and watching videos our listening to music. But when you want to fill a bigger room or want to 'party' outside, you definitely need some Bluetooth speakers - it was possible with the 6Ps volume, tho.
- Camera:
The app is without a doubt so much better than the Google camera. The auto point and shoot mode isnt nearly as good as the 6Ps (I miss the Auto HDR mode in darker situations that made photos so much noiseless), but with at least some easy tweaking (EV), you get some great quality photos that CAN come out way better and more interesting than out of the 6Ps camera. Not to mention the fantastic manual mode... Oh boy! OIS on both cameras is a great thing, and the selfie camera also is a great to have thing, since it is really, really good.
- Battery life:
Yes, the battery life... I was surprised, but I can also assure you that it was and is - out of the box - so much better than the Nexus 6Ps. I still can't find out why, but the 6P gave me like ~3h SOT at max, even with some Kernel tweaking. With the HTC 10, I get like 4-5h at least, and I never had problems to get through 2 busy days. I am sure that their is some more potential, when you notice some people in the Battery Life Thread having more than 7h SOT. That was the biggest Wow factor and surprise to me.
- OS:
Hell, I don't miss stock Android. Not. A. Little. I would go even further and say that HTC did the best interpretation of Android with their Sense UI so far. It feels like stock Android in every way, but the feature set is so much better, you honestly need to experience it. Camera app, Display settings, Sound tweaking, Display gestures, Night light, some great HTC Widgets and Apps (which you won't even notice if you don't use them), etc. etc. It's just really well thought and implemented, and I gotta salute HTC for doing such a great job of adding features while maintaining the stock Android feeling. Did I mention the performance is also incredible and better (yes, better) than the 6Ps? It just feels more fluid and quick when you actually use it. In every situation. The 6P sadly had some let downs, not bad, but they occured sometimes. Maybe due to the SD810.
If you want to know anything else, just tell me.
All in all, it was definitely worth it. At least to me. I owned 3 Nexus devices so far: Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and Nexus 6P. I don't regret it a single day. Considering the price of about 400€ for a HTC 10 and the disaster the Pixel actually is (Price, Design - Seriously, it looks like a fat plastic phone for 9 years olds), I can just recommend the same for you. If you want to mod, you can mod easily, but once again, I didn't even root the 10 and it still is an amazing phone, since it's truely feature rich. It has no true weaknesses, unlike the Nexus 6P. It feels way better and more safe in your hand, unlike the 6P. It's way more solid and simply a beauty.
You can't go wrong with it. But it really depends on what you actually want to do with and expect from your phone.
Oh, and switching over to the 10 is fine. Sense UI looks and feels like Android, even more, it feels like what (Stock) Android should really be. The tweaks and features HTC implemented are great. And again: if you want it like stock Android, you can have it like stock Android - just don't use the (hidden) HTC stuff. This might be the only thing you will regret tho. :d

Any Regrets? Thinking of switching to another phone?

Hi,
Just wanted to see if anyone is thinking of switching to another phone because of the screen issues? I just got mine and it has a lot of grain and a much more noticeable blue tint compared to demo units I saw. It's not something I can un-notice.
Thanks!

Not switching phones here. I don't notice the grain at all, and I've gotten used to the blue tint at an angle. Looking head-on I don't have an issue.
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bkrivelow21 said:
Hi,
Just wanted to see if anyone is thinking of switching to another phone because of the screen issues? I just got mine and it has a lot of grain and a much more noticeable blue tint compared to demo units I saw. It's not something I can un-notice.
Thanks!
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Can an exchange mate. The grain shouldn't be noticeable

Nope, so far this phone is fast, great battery life and I actually have no issue with the screen. Looks great to me, no burn in.. No issues with the speakers. Basically nothing that was being reported is affecting me at all. Great Phone just wish I had gone with Google version of the phone instead of the locked Verizon version but development is still pretty non existent at this point so I'm not missing much I suppose.

still loving this phone - literally the only thing i wish it had was faster charging (had a oneplus prior to this), which is already kind of silly given the amazing battery life due to the larger battery

Not a chance of returning. Phone is amazing. Best battery life of any device I've owned. Now that twrp is official, development will follow soon. Cant wait for some pure pixel!

Before 8.1 I had regrets as I was having lots of random reboots but now the phone is perfect for me. No screen issues and great camera and battery life.

Your 1st post... welcome to XDA. Screen is not an issue for most on 8.1!
What devices have you had for comparison? Are you on 8.1?

Love this phone. There is no chance I would swap this phone. Best phone I have ever had.

Love this phone, have it for few days now. Miss some features of the Note 8 though like the awesome screen, game launcher and some camera options but its a compromise for fast updates and blazing fast performance.

I like the phone but I do see it slows down a little. Not as much as Samsung device but I sure feel it.
Just patiently waiting for some good ROMs.
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I am going to test out the U11+. Unfortunately after 8.1 my battery sucks and just using that as an excuse to swap phones. 8.0 battery was excellent, hopefully they fix that asap for those affected.

I am having random reboots on 8.1 so something seems to be weird. Other than that the phone is quite good.

I'm sure I'll get plenty of people pulling out their pitch-forks...
However, I'm seriously considering making the switch to the iPhone X. Now that it's readily available and many of my friends/family have one, I've had the ability to get my hands on it many times now and I really love the overall feel of the phone. When comparing my Pixel 2 XL with the iPhone X side by side, the difference in screen quality is night and day. It really does put the Pixel 2 XL screen to shame. It's not a subtle difference, by any means. Compared to the iPhone X, my 2XL's screen just looks cheap and washed out, even with Saturated mode enabled.
I'm finding that I really love the fluidity of IOS 11, as well. Although, I'm still not a huge fan of the obnoxiously large icons and lack of home screen customization. But I'm starting to think I can look past all that. Sadly, comparing the two phones side by side makes me realize I truly got sub-par quality with my ~$900 2 XL and it is seriously making me consider selling it while resale value is still high and making the switch.
Oh, and coming from the Galaxy S8 & LG V30, I have found that I truly miss the convenience of wireless charging. So it would be nice to go back to having a wireless charger on my night stand and another on the desk in my home office. With that setup I always had a charged phone and never even pulled the OEM USB-C charger from the original packaging. Wireless charging is truly liberating and I would love to have that back.

galaxys said:
Your 1st post... welcome to XDA. Screen is not an issue for most on 8.1!
What devices have you had for comparison? Are you on 8.1?
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THANKS!
With my experience with the screen, I was just thinking of moving down to the Pixel 2. I just wanted to see what other people thought. I just see if I go with an RMA I run the risk of getting an even worse device.

I love the phone for the most part. The screen is meh to me. I'll walk in to an electronics store and compare the screen to some other flagship with oleds like the galaxy S8/S8+, Note 8, Iphone X, the smaller Pixel 2 and even the LG V30. They all tend to have smoother/brighter whites, like they look less blotchy. I've managed to make my screen look quite a bit better with KCAL but even then I still wish it was just a samsung panel instead. I looked at the essential phone on display the other day and goddamn the build quality on that thing is amazing. It takes that whole "fancy" feeling of the Iphone X to a whole new level. Was seriously considering it since its only $500 right now. But at the end of the day I just can't give up the software and quick updates on the Pixel 2XL, even if it means settling with a so so screen.

bkrivelow21 said:
THANKS!
With my experience with the screen, I was just thinking of moving down to the Pixel 2. I just wanted to see what other people thought. I just see if I go with an RMA I run the risk of getting an even worse device.
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If you don't mind the size difference and this screen bothers you go for the Pixel 2. The screen is much better on that one.

sn0warmy said:
I'm sure I'll get plenty of people pulling out their pitch-forks...
However, I'm seriously considering making the switch to the iPhone X. Now that it's readily available and many of my friends/family have one, I've had the ability to get my hands on it many times now and I really love the overall feel of the phone. When comparing my Pixel 2 XL with the iPhone X side by side, the difference in screen quality is night and day. It really does put the Pixel 2 XL screen to shame. It's not a subtle difference, by any means. Compared to the iPhone X, my 2XL's screen just looks cheap and washed out, even with Saturated mode enabled.
I'm finding that I really love the fluidity of IOS 11, as well. Although, I'm still not a huge fan of the obnoxiously large icons and lack of home screen customization. But I'm starting to think I can look past all that. Sadly, comparing the two phones side by side makes me realize I truly got sub-par quality with my ~$900 2 XL and it is seriously making me consider selling it while resale value is still high and making the switch.
Oh, and coming from the Galaxy S8 & LG V30, I have found that I truly miss the convenience of wireless charging. So it would be nice to go back to having a wireless charger on my night stand and another on the desk in my home office. With that setup I always had a charged phone and never even pulled the OEM USB-C charger from the original packaging. Wireless charging is truly liberating and I would love to have that back.
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Pitch forks! Nah..it's your money bro, get what you like. I played with my brother in laws iX. It has a great screen, superb build quality, great camera, and is smooth as silk for sure. However....that NOTCH, gesture control, and zero buttons anywhere just isn't my cup of tea. But again, it's your money, you don't owe anyone an explanation, so get what you like, be happy, Merry Christmas, and live long and prosper :good::good:

Love this phone better than mate 9 or Nexus 6p. Or iPhone 7s that I briefly tried. Better battery life and overall experience.
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My screen fares well against my wife's pixel 2 to be honest. The screen could be better but I prefer over the OnePlus 5t screen in some ways