Dear Friends,
Itching to order a Note 7. Based on what we saw with the S7 line, I am assuming that the Snapdragon US models will be locked down with their BLs. That I believe just leaves me with the option of N930F (UK/Europe model) or the N930FD (South East Asian) model.
For the life of me, I don't understand why the Dual-SIM model is cheaper than the single one, probably cause it's geared for Asian markets? However, from what I understand they both have EXACTLY the SAME hardware and Radios, am I correct?
So the simple question is:
For a person that values Root and unlocked Bootloader, that lives in the US, uses AT&T (could switch to T-Mobile) what is the BEST variant for me to order? N930F or N930FD?
Second most important question: Can the ROMs developed for N930F be also used on N930FD? And the same goes for Stock firmware flashes, in case things go south from the Rooting trail?
Would appreciate any prompt input guys, thank you!
ProFragger said:
Dear Friends,
Itching to order a Note 7. Based on what we saw with the S7 line, I am assuming that the Snapdragon US models will be locked down with their BLs. That I believe just leaves me with the option of N930F (UK/Europe model) or the N930FD (South East Asian) model.
For the life of me, I don't understand why the Dual-SIM model is cheaper than the single one, probably cause it's geared for Asian markets? However, from what I understand they both have EXACTLY the SAME hardware and Radios, am I correct?
So the simple question is:
For a person that values Root and unlocked Bootloader, that lives in the US, uses AT&T (could switch to T-Mobile) what is the BEST variant for me to order? N930F or N930FD?
Second most important question: Can the ROMs developed for N930F be also used on N930FD? And the same goes for Stock firmware flashes, in case things go south from the Rooting trail?
Would appreciate any prompt input guys, thank you!
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The Canadian variant "should " also be exynos and unlocked.
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I would say get the FD cause its unlocked and exenos which has better battery life.
erootaku123 said:
I would say get the FD cause its unlocked and exenos which has better battery life.
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Thanks for your response friend! Would the FD had any less compatibility in the US or less development, ROM, or stock firmware support than the regular F?
force70 said:
The Canadian variant "should " also be exynos and unlocked.
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Thank you for your response as well, do you see any upside of getting the Canadian variant over the International F or FD one? The latter are cheaper in the US, I think...
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Thanks for your response friend! Would the FD had any less compatibility in the US or less development, ROM, or stock firmware support than the regular F?
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Its basically the international version, comes unlocked. Should be stock firmware. Not sure about development but compatibility is the same as the s7 edge. So it should work. At least I know it works on t-mobile. Not sure about at&t. It does not work with verizon or sprint. cause they cmda.
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Its basically the international version, comes unlocked. Should be stock firmware. Not sure about development but compatibility is the same as the s7 edge. So it should work. At least I know it works on t-mobile. Not sure about at&t. It does not work with verizon or sprint. cause they cmda.
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Thanks again for your response bud. So again, you don't think the FD would be any less compatible than the regular F in the US? Trying to see out of the International models, if there is any reason to get the Dual-SIM model over the the regular single SIM model or not? Other than the obvious difference of using two SIMs, I am interested in knowing if one has any advantage over the other in terms of Development support on XDA, Warranty issues in the US (UK model vs. the Asian model (Dual SIM)), and any radio differences between the F and FD?
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Thanks again for your response bud. So again, you don't think the FD would be any less compatible than the regular F in the US? Trying to see out of the International models, if there is any reason to get the Dual-SIM model over the the regular single SIM model or not? Other than the obvious difference of using two SIMs, I am interested in knowing if one has any advantage over the other in terms of Development support on XDA, Warranty issues in the US (UK model vs. the Asian model (Dual SIM)), and any radio differences between the F and FD?
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Not 100% sure on the internal differences didn't really do research into that. As for warranty there basically is none. Its the main downside. I don't think there are any radio differences, but don't quote me. You are basically paying for dual sim and unlocked "vanilla" international note 7. USA versions are locked and may have rooting/development issues but will be more popular of model.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...930fd-galaxy-note-7-duos-td-lte/united-states
erootaku123 said:
I would say get the FD cause its unlocked and exenos which has better battery life.
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The Canadian variant "should " also be exynos and unlocked.
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Hi Guys,
I'm tired of asking for more and more details and not enough answers. Can you guys help me come up with a bottom line?
If I need an unlocked Bootloader and custom development support and using the phone in the US on AT&T or T-Mobile, which variant should I get? The regular N930F or the Dual SIM version the N930FD?
Thanks for your help!
ProFragger said:
Hi Guys,
I'm tired of asking for more and more details and not enough answers. Can you guys help me come up with a bottom line?
If I need an unlocked Bootloader and custom development support and using the phone in the US on AT&T or T-Mobile, which variant should I get? The regular N930F or the Dual SIM version the N930FD?
Thanks for your help!
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Dude....we are so sorry that your just so tired of asking questions and not getting enough answers..
NOT!
If you want help i suggest losing that type of attitude...you come off sounding very entitled which is not something which is looked at fondly here.
Now since I can answer you question I will despite what you wrote.
given past history across a few devices Ive the regular F version seem to see more development than the dual sim model.
Dual sim does get some support but always muchess than the F version.
Unless you need dual sim I would recommend the regular F version hands down.
Tmo does have at least one diff\extra frequencie..(band 12 i think) than AT&T so likely the F version will work better on ATT but there are guys running on Tmo with it.
Id take a closer look at compatibility with Tmo before dropping your hard earned cash on it though...always good to do some homework before buying.
All that said and as I mentioned in your quote the Canadian version is also exynos and an exact match band wise for ATT. May be easier to buy from here than an international version
Hole that helps some?
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force70 said:
Dude....we are so sorry that your just so tired of asking questions and not getting enough answers..
NOT!
If you want help i suggest losing that type of attitude...you come off sounding very entitled which is not something which is looked at fondly here.
Now since I can answer you question I will despite what you wrote.
given past history across a few devices Ive the regular F version seem to see more development than the dual sim model.
Dual sim does get some support but always muchess than the F version.
Unless you need dual sim I would recommend the regular F version hands down.
Tmo does have at least one diff\extra frequencie..(band 12 i think) than AT&T so likely the F version will work better on ATT but there are guys running on Tmo with it.
Id take a closer look at compatibility with Tmo before dropping your hard earned cash on it though...always good to do some homework before buying.
All that said and as I mentioned in your quote the Canadian version is also exynos and an exact match band wise for ATT. May be easier to buy from here than an international version
Hole that helps some?
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Hey bud, thanks for your detailed response and that seemed to have been my inkling too. Haha I apologize if my tone sounded entitled. I kinda felt that it could be misinterpreted that way, as I wrote it, but I thought you guys will be cool and probably get what I meant. What I meant was, I'm tired of myself asking the question questions and letting or from pulling the trigger on an order ?. I'm an XDA Senior Member since 2008 or 2009. Check all my previous posts, I'm far from being entitled and an ass, really LOL! But thanks for living up to the greatness of this community and still answering my question, despite being annoyed ?. My apologies to anyone else who interprets my post the same way as you did ?!
You guys are the best, proud to be a member of this community ?!
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Guys,
Im planning to buy galaxy note 2 no commitment handset but im confused which one to go for. They are same priced. Since i came to US in fall 2011 i have never used a US locked phone. Im currently using htc hd2 (the legend).
My question is if i buy att phone and then unlock it will flashing new roms etc still be a problem compared to international version. Do they provide only a code to unlock the phone or a complete new rom to flash which removes att bootloader and drivers and makes it like an international version. The only difference i guess is about warranty and lte radio between the two variants. I do not care about lte radio since im mostly connected to wifi but i care a little aboutthe warranty.
Some questions might be stupid since im new to this us version phones so im sorry about it.
Thanx in advance for replying
arzin said:
Guys,
Im planning to buy galaxy note 2 no commitment handset but im confused which one to go for. They are same priced. Since i came to US in fall 2011 i have never used a US locked phone. Im currently using htc hd2 (the legend).
My question is if i buy att phone and then unlock it will flashing new roms etc still be a problem compared to international version. Do they provide only a code to unlock the phone or a complete new rom to flash which removes att bootloader and drivers and makes it like an international version. The only difference i guess is about warranty and lte radio between the two variants. I do not care about lte radio since im mostly connected to wifi but i care a little aboutthe warranty.
Some questions might be stupid since im new to this us version phones so im sorry about it.
Thanx in advance for replying
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Just the code is provided. Only difference between the phones is the radio, hardware wise
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Just the code is provided. Only difference between the phones is the radio, hardware wise
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Ok and so everytime i flash a new rom i flash the att the rom from att thread on xda and there is no way to go back to international version rom so that i can get the updates directly from samsung instead of the carrier. I hope i got this right?
arzin said:
Ok and so everytime i flash a new rom i flash the att the rom from att thread on xda and there is no way to go back to international version rom so that i can get the updates directly from samsung instead of the carrier. I hope i got this right?
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No,you can't install an AT&T Rom on an Int model & vica versa. So, If you have an AT&T model, you can only install AT&T Note 2 ROM's. If you have the Int model, then you can only install the Int Note 2 ROM's. The difference between models is that AT&T LTE band isn't supported on the Int model. So if you want LTE on AT&T then you'll have to get the AT&T model.
Okay thank you guys for your replies.. It indeed cleared my mind. Im gonna pre order no commitment galaxy note 2 from at&t right away so that i get warranty on phone as well..:good::laugh:
similar question> if i buy an unlocked international note 2 like so: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...1355456&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+galaxy+note+2
can i use it on the AT&T network by popping my current GS3 simcard in there without issue?
See we didn't get screwed this time with the crappy processor. If we did, then I'd be all over the international version. But we get the exact same specs as the International version plus LTE. The only advantage the international version has is that it will get updates faster, but I don't care about that, as I plan to root anyway.
arzin said:
Ok and so everytime i flash a new rom i flash the att the rom from att thread on xda and there is no way to go back to international version rom so that i can get the updates directly from samsung instead of the carrier. I hope i got this right?
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theraker007 said:
similar question> if i buy an unlocked international note 2 like so: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...1355456&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+galaxy+note+2
can i use it on the AT&T network by popping my current GS3 simcard in there without issue?
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Yes, if you get an Int GN2, you can pop in your current GS3 simcard without any issues but you won't get LTE speed.
MattMJB0188 said:
See we didn't get screwed this time with the crappy processor. If we did, then I'd be all over the international version. But we get the exact same specs as the International version plus LTE. The only advantage the international version has is that it will get updates faster, but I don't care about that, as I plan to root anyway.
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I would of gotten the Int GN2 if it supported AT&T LTE but it didn't so I'm going to get the AT&T one.
Looking at the advantages of att GN2 such as warranty and lte radio i preordered one for myself on no commitment basis..gonna get it by nov 9th for which i just cant wait.. I dont care about updates either since im gonna root it too.
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No,you can't install an AT&T Rom on an Int model & vica versa. So, If you have an AT&T model, you can only install AT&T Note 2 ROM's. If you have the Int model, then you can only install the Int Note 2 ROM's. The difference between models is that AT&T LTE band isn't supported on the Int model. So if you want LTE on AT&T then you'll have to get the AT&T model.
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Not true. As long as the partitions are the same on both devices, and considering the hardware between both are mostly the same, it should work fine, as long as the proper modem.bin and kernel is running.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Not true. As long as the partitions are the same on both devices, and considering the hardware between both are mostly the same, it should work fine, as long as the proper modem.bin and kernel is running.
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I am a power user and i cant live without flashing rom so i cancelled my att preorder and bought and international version for 589$ from newegg..yes 589$.. I got 90$ of on it. Now i l buy insurance worth 55$ from worth ave and m all set to flash roms
im planning to get the at&t version, but im waiting for reviews to come up. that LTE seems like its gonna go through the 3100mah quickly. i got the original at&t note and i hate having to recharge every 11-12hrs. its crazy how late at&t is on the galaxy note 2. tmobile even beat them to it.
Title says it all. I'm running a 851 T-mobile variant with TWRP and AOKP (new rom posted today) on it. Same bands and LTE works perfect. So the question stands why don't you AT&T owners sell yours and do the same? More development is going on since the bootloader is already unlocked and the more using one version the better for development as well in my eyes.
Maybe there is a specific reason but what am I missing?
I'm on Sprint and paid 99 for my phone. That's the only reason.
Mahapederdon said:
I'm on Sprint and paid 99 for my phone. That's the only reason.
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Makes sense not switching carriers, and sprint is CDMA not GSM so wouldn't work regardless. Threads more toward the AT&T owners and all the Bootloader Bounty chatter....
Got ya. Us Sprint guys are in the same boat. If they succeed in an unlock I'm definitely gonna donate if they don't charge anything for it.
Well AT&T is the better network hands down so there's that and if someone didn't think about bootloaders and development before purchasing chances are they don't need or want to root so there's 2 really good reasons why not to sell an AT&T G3 for the same exact phone on another network. That and also that its the same exact phone on another network.
I did it, mine 855P is the same as international 855 but with LTE from Mexico and USA so I sold it and bought a T-Mobile just for the same price =D and I still have my wireless charger that came with my 855P + an upgrade from 16gb/2gb RAM to 32gb/3gb RAM, a good deal.
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Well AT&T is the better network hands down so there's that and if someone didn't think about bootloaders and development before purchasing chances are they don't need or want to root so there's 2 really good reasons why not to sell an AT&T G3 for the same exact phone on another network. That and also that its the same exact phone on another network.
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Well that exactly what i did had the 850 and sold it on ebay and got the 851. 851's are cheaper actually. Still on AT&T network, agree its the better network hands down. If I chose to sell this it can go either ATT or T-mobile and works on LTE for both.
I guess i don't see your argument at all..
That's really not a terrible idea, lol. I friggen hate having this locked bootloader on my 850. Does the TMobile variant have the EXACT same bands as the AT&T one?
My other option is to just sell this stupid thing and buy a Nexus X when it comes out.
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I did it, mine 855P is the same as international 855 but with LTE from Mexico and USA so I sold it and bought a T-Mobile just for the same price =D and I still have my wireless charger that came with my 855P + an upgrade from 16gb/2gb RAM to 32gb/3gb RAM, a good deal.
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Exactly, and thanks for making remember it has the Qi wireless which is much more popular.
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That's really not a terrible idea, lol. I friggen hate having this locked bootloader on my 850. Does the TMobile variant have the EXACT same bands as the AT&T one?
My other option is to just sell this stupid thing and buy a Nexus X when it comes out.
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Do it, I made money actually. And you can literally download the IMEI unlock app on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.servtified.unlock_lg_g3&hl=en) and pay 5 dollars to have it working on AT&T LTE in the matter of minutes. You do need to add your APN info for ATT but that''s it, works awesome!
Yes it has the exact same bands identical.
ej_424 said:
Well that exactly what i did had the 850 and sold it on ebay and got the 851. 851's are cheaper actually. Still on AT&T network, agree its the better network hands down. If I chose to sell this it can go either ATT or T-mobile and works on LTE for both.
I guess i don't see your argument at all..
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Not an argument, actually a reason to be satisfied with their purchase is that its on AT&T. I'm on T-Mobile but I don't defend their service, just went through them to lease the G3 and not pay outright for it. Going back to Straight Talk soon since I already SIM unlocked it. I would hope that a normal non obsessed person would consider all their options for US variants and not go through the headache of switching carriers for the exact same phone and sell the other. Not everyone cares about unlocking phones, some people are satisfied with simply having them, I'm not one of those people, but they do exist.
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Not an argument, actually a reason to be satisfied with their purchase is that its on AT&T. I'm on T-Mobile but I don't defend their service, just went through them to lease the G3 and not pay outright for it. Going back to Straight Talk soon since I already SIM unlocked it. I would hope that a normal non obsessed person would consider all their options for US variants and not go through the headache of switching carriers for the exact same phone and sell the other. Not everyone cares about unlocking phones, some people are satisfied with simply having them, I'm not one of those people, but they do exist.
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Hear you loud and clear, but we are on XDA right? Having said that anyone on this forum is interested in having full control of their phone period.
ej_424 said:
Hear you loud and clear, but we are on XDA right? Having said that anyone on this forum is interested in having full control of their phone period.
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Why would you assume that? I've seen plenty of posts by users running stock unrooted devices. Just because its not unlocked doesn't mean people don't have a passion for development.
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Why would you assume that? I've seen plenty of posts by users running stock unrooted devices. Just because its not unlocked doesn't mean people don't have a passion for development.
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Getting off topic, the point of the thread was for those who are on AT&T and want a unlocked bootloader. I dont think some people are aware of the logical move, and that both versions have the same bands.
Care to share a link for this AOKP rom you speak of?
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Care to share a link for this AOKP rom you speak of?
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yes i dont see it anywhere
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ej_424 said:
Title says it all. I'm running a 851 T-mobile variant with TWRP and AOKP (new rom posted today) on it. Same bands and LTE works perfect. So the question stands why don't you AT&T owners sell yours and do the same? More development is going on since the bootloader is already unlocked and the more using one version the better for development as well in my eyes.
Maybe there is a specific reason but what am I missing?
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op, where is this aokp rom you speak of?
scottshebs said:
yes i dont see it anywhere
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op, where is this aokp rom you speak of?
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Sorry for the confusion, its not the original aokp. It's under android development section. Its not lgs rom though.
ej_424 said:
Sorry for the confusion, its not the original aokp. It's under android development section. Its not lgs rom though.
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the alpha aosp or a different one?
scottshebs said:
the alpha aosp or a different one?
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Lol no wonder... Yea my mistake AOSP.
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Lol no wonder... Yea my mistake AOSP.
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had me all excited there lol. youre running it without sound or vibration?
I would like the maximum possibility of custom firmwares, etc. Which carrier's version has unlockable/exploitable bootloader, and so on, such that I can reasonably expect to be able to install custom firmware for a long as the device is supported by devs? I've looked through a bunch of threads and nothing is really giving me this info, as a person shopping. It looks like Sprint has the lowest (subsidized) price, though T-Mobile tends to have the most "open" devices. That said, I have a Verizon account already.
Which carrier's version should I buy? I don't want to be stuck with something like Safestrap (no offense to Hashcode, his work is awesome!). Is there even an option that answers this question the way I want?
Related.... if anyone knows, how do the sizes compare? I have been using a Nook HD+, which is supposedly 8.9 inches. Is the 8.4 going to be most similar to that? It appears to be narrower from pictures, but I don't want to jump up TOO much in size, either. Anyone who's used both, is the 10.5" too much tablet?
Stay away from Verizon and AT&T both have locked bootloaders.
Can't you buy an international lte model and see if you can use a Verizon Sim card on it? Idk . As ash said don't buy any tab s directly from Verizon or att. The 10.5 would be to big for a tablet IMO. I own a 10.5 and it's sometime hard to put it/hold it while traveling. 8.4 should do fine.
Try and see if you can use a verizon or att Sim on the international model. As for sprint, their bands might be different in which if you buy directly from sprint, ROM support is really low since it uses a different chips. Hope this helps!
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Honestly, I don't even really care about carriers, as I normally only use my tablet on WiFi. I only ask because I'm trying to subsidize the cost (yes, I know it costs more in the long run). but what I DO care about is custom ROMs. Thanks for the info regarding the 10.5", that was my feeling as well, even as a guy with large hands it seemed like a lot.
Maybe I will just end up buying an international model outright, that's a good idea.
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Honestly, I don't even really care about carriers, as I normally only use my tablet on WiFi. I only ask because I'm trying to subsidize the cost (yes, I know it costs more in the long run). but what I DO care about is custom ROMs. Thanks for the info regarding the 10.5", that was my feeling as well, even as a guy with large hands it seemed like a lot.
Maybe I will just end up buying an international model outright, that's a good idea.
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As for custom roms, very few as more devs own the WiFi models. Like the 8.4 lte does have cyanogenmod 12 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59398782
But few things are broken.
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Verizon has snapdraghon soc
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Is that a plus or a minus in terms of my question? I have no idea which chipset is more supported, that's what I'm trying to find out
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Is that a plus or a minus in terms of my question? I have no idea which chipset is more supported, that's what I'm trying to find out
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Exynos is more supported. Very few have snapdragon
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I've purchased an 8.4" WiFi version with Exynos (refurb from Walmart.com, $249!). Thanks for the help, guys!
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I've purchased an 8.4" WiFi version with Exynos (refurb from Walmart.com, $249!). Thanks for the help, guys!
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WiFi version ehh? Enjoy your CM12 Nightlies Great deal BTW!
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Okay so I was told by my seller (and maybe some others are in the same boat) that the N930F shipments are backed up, but the N930FD (dual Sim variant) is in stock.
they wanna know if I'm down for accepting the FD in place of the F.
I did some googling and can't find much comparing the two.
is there any reason I should say no to the N930FD in place of the N930F?
things like, gosh idk, any software flashing issues down the road, any bad experiences with FD, sd card doesnt sit right, resale trouble, FD scandal conspiracy theories lol, etc.
it sounds like a safe call to make, but I'm a bit nervous lol, anyone have anything to chime in?
allll input is welcome and ill drop ya some thanks.
this link suggests theres no hardware differences except one supports dual sim.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...0fd-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-7-sm-n930f/3665285
hi, i could be wrong but depend where you're from i think you should wait for the F model, i know the FD is dual sim and all that but i found the F have broader firmware support than the FD, and i'm not talking about custom firmware, solely original firmwares, beside the FD firmware mostly concentrate in Asia territory.
soraxd said:
Okay so I was told by my seller (and maybe some others are in the same boat) that the N930F shipments are backed up, but the N930FD (dual Sim variant) is in stock.
they wanna know if I'm down for accepting the FD in place of the F.
I did some googling and can't find much comparing the two.
is there any reason I should say no to the N930FD in place of the N930F?
things like, gosh idk, any software flashing issues down the road, any bad experiences with FD, sd card doesnt sit right, resale trouble, FD scandal conspiracy theories lol, etc.
it sounds like a safe call to make, but I'm a bit nervous lol, anyone have anything to chime in?
allll input is welcome and ill drop ya some thanks.
this link suggests theres no hardware differences except one supports dual sim.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...0fd-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-7-sm-n930f/3665285
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I'm running an F firmware over my FD after changing the Home CSC and converting it into UK/ Ireland XEU version ...
And no hiccups ...
So no difference except for Dual SIM trey and Sim Management software in FD ...
And no delay in updates would be there in firmware updates too as it didn't happen in S7/S7 Edge case as well ...
Only difference is that the dual-sim FD version has a SIM/SIM or SIM/MicroSD slot, and the F has JUST a SIM/MicroSD slot just like every other Note 7.
Firmware is identical, so you can flash F on FD, or FD on F (as long as you dont need dual sim support).
I'm on T-Mobile and I'm looking to get an F or FD, and my main concern is Samsung Pay support. My understanding is that I can flash the firmware/csc from a country that has samsung pay and I should be good to go. Can anyone confirm whether that's accurate or not?
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I'm on T-Mobile and I'm looking to get an F or FD, and my main concern is Samsung Pay support. My understanding is that I can flash the firmware/csc from a country that has samsung pay and I should be good to go. Can anyone confirm whether that's accurate or not?
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I have FD model and Samsung Pay worked out the box without any problems.
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I have FD model and Samsung Pay worked out the box without any problems.
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May I ask where you bought your FD and what carrier you're using? Thanks for replying by the way, I'm heavily leaning Exynos and have been eyeing the FD units for sale on Ebay.
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I'm running an F firmware over my FD after changing the Home CSC and converting it into UK/ Ireland XEU version ...
And no hiccups ...
So no difference except for Dual SIM trey and Sim Management software in FD ...
And no delay in updates would be there in firmware updates too as it didn't happen in S7/S7 Edge case as well ...
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I'd like to do that.... how you go about... got my first in dubai... thanks....
If I flash the "F" firmware to an "FD" device I just lose dual sim and thats it ?
No you won't loose dual sim at all. I flashed xeu version for f from SamMobile and dual sim fine
thering1975 said:
No you won't loose dual sim at all. I flashed xeu version for f from SamMobile and dual sim fine
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any advantage xeu version.... or a different versions
I flashed the AGP7, presumed based firmware for "F" models as samfirm shows 2 more firmwares including the BPH6 but its not prompting me the update. No biggy as I am only testing something on an old firmware.
I found no benefit in the end and xeu tends to be late to the update party
SeanPlunk said:
May I ask where you bought your FD and what carrier you're using? Thanks for replying by the way, I'm heavily leaning Exynos and have been eyeing the FD units for sale on Ebay.
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I purchased it from eBay
thering1975 said:
No you won't loose dual sim at all. I flashed xeu version for f from SamMobile and dual sim fine
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was the flashing of F to your phone easy? does that need root?
I returned my Snapdragon Tmobile due to locked Bootloader and bought the F Version but was shipped and FD. I dont really mind... Im liking it. It has extra features my Tmobile didnt have. So I'm fine with it. I just cant shut off the Number1 in the blue box on my texts in Messages. I found its because of the Dual Sim and its telling me where the texts are coming from. Which sims its using though Im only using one. You can change the icon though to a heart or etc...
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Does FD/ F version work on ATT LTE bands?
DionWhite33 said:
I returned my Snapdragon Tmobile due to locked Bootloader and bought the F Version but was shipped and FD. I dont really mind... Im liking it. It has extra features my Tmobile didnt have. So I'm fine with it. I just cant shut off the Number1 in the blue box on my texts in Messages. I found its because of the Dual Sim and its telling me where the texts are coming from. Which sims its using though Im only using one. You can change the icon though to a heart or etc...
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Does VoLTE work on tmobile usa?
LRivard said:
was the flashing of F to your phone easy? does that need root?
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Via Odin very easy no need for root does not trip knox
benya said:
Does VoLTE work on tmobile usa?
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Yeah, I would like to know this as well. That will be great to know.
Hi All,
I have my unlocked pre-order S9 sitting on my table here in London but have ended up needing to travel for work to Chicago this weekend.
The obvious thought that came to mind is - "can I buy one in the states, save the best part of £150 and use it back in the UK?". I thought that as they're quad-band or whatever they are that a US variant would still work fine - could anyone confirm if that is the case?
I spoke to a samsung helpdesk person and they said no but genuinely didn't sound like they knew what they were talking about...
Are there any other considerations that I should be taking in to account, e.g. Exynos vs Snapdragon? I've done a bunch of Googling but not come across anything definitive.
Thanks in advance folks.
Pete
Think you may not be able to as samsung region lock their phones
So you would have to put an America SIM in the phone whether you can change that after first activation I don't know
Also aren't the American bands different to the UK??
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mancuk29 said:
Think you may not be able to as samsung region lock their phones
So you would have to put an America SIM in the phone whether you can change that after first activation I don't know
Also aren't the American bands different to the UK??
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Thanks for getting back to me, looking at the S8 it appears that you could sort the region lock by placing a 5 minute phone call using a US carrier so that's something that I can do whilst I'm away.
The bands are different in the states vs here but that being said my UK phone works when I take it abroad. I thought that the fact that these are multi-band phones that they work elsewhere.
Pete
i had bought a S5 back in the day from the states and used it in india and it worked great(it was unlocked), you do however need to make a 5 min phone call after which you can use it elsewhere in the world.
Thanks! So I guess the remaining questions considerations are then:
Can I get the hybrid SIM version in the states?
Is having the Snapdragon vs Exynos going to impact anything?
Are there any other material differences that you guys would be thinking about?
I've done plenty of googling on this but there isn't too much useful stuff that I've come across.
1. yes, get the G960U or G965U (unless you mean dual sim in this case i dont know)
2. snapdragon has a faster gpu, slightly slower cpu, and locked bootloader so you can't flash custom roms...
3. Yep see 2 ;P
As someone in the US I'm ordering one from the UK just because of the bootloader.
Thanks pal! I'll open up my preorder that I have then!!
I don't believe dual sim is available in the US
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I don't believe dual sim is available in the US
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I think you are right. I spent a good chunk of time yesterday on the internet researching and could not seem to find anywhere that sold it.
I cracked my UK one open yesterday, very smart piece of kit although moving from an S8 there were no real surprises.
I popped my work SIM in alongside my personal one to see how it all works, the dual SIM functionality is really really good. Very impressed with the way that it works, gives 2 whatsapps, etc. Would definitely recommend.
Thanks to everyone that responded and helped.