A press release stating the use of the 820 in the Note 7 but it makes sure to mention it will use Aqstic, which is Qualcomm's HiFi audio solution.
There is also a statement from June about Aqstic and it's benefits that mentions phones that use it, the S7 is not one of the highlighted phones.
So should we expect better audio output from the Note 7 820? The SD variants have always lacked in the audio department on Galaxy phones compared to the Wolfson DAC on the International models. So here's hoping for good stuff.
I tried to post the links to each statement from Qualcomm's website but since this is my first topic I can't. Googling Qualcomm Aqstic brings both results up right away.
It's pretty clear Samsung intentionally carried over the S7-series innards to the Note7 to save money. Outside USB-C and the iris scanner they appear to be identical h/w wise (S Pen features excepted). Here's what Samsung used in the Snapdragon vs. Exynos S7 audio h/w wise. I'd guess it's the same in the Note7. The A/V chip on the S-820 phones is for voice command activation and operation and noise reduction. So I'd guess that if whatever you're looking for wasn't in the 7-series it isn't in the Note7 either.
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It's pretty clear Samsung intentionally carried over the S7-series innards to the Note7 to save money. Outside USB-C and the iris scanner they appear to be identical h/w wise (S Pen features excepted). Here's what Samsung used in the Snapdragon vs. Exynos S7 audio h/w wise. I'd guess it's the same in the Note7. The A/V chip on the S-820 phones is for voice command activation and operation and noise reduction. So I'd guess that if whatever you're looking for wasn't in the 7-series it isn't in the Note7 either.
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Damn, one can dream I guess, lol.
I think you're right. I've seen multiple places report it is using the Qualcomm Aqstic, which is the same codec used in the HTC M10. It's not in the S7 or S7E, as far as I can tell. That's awesome! Now let's hope Samsung uses a decent amp in the Note 7 or it won't matter. Samsung is notorious for low powered amps.
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Here is the link from quallcom regarding the note 7
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...m-powers-next-generation-samsung-galaxy-note7
As the OP writes, the Aqstic codec in the note 7 is in the HTC 10 and not in the s7. This based on quallcom's website.
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I think you nailed it, if they don't put a better quality amp in it or fix whatever was wrong with the one that is in the S7 US models it won't matter. I really hope that it's just clear, I can deal with lower output, just let it be clear and clean.
Also if anyone finds any reviews, videos, or comments from people that have early models that test the audio output please post a link here.
Ok, this might ease my concern slightly about the Snapdragon 820 being in the Canadian model
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I have a thread basically asking the same question. It's the one thing that may have me keep my HTC10.
Read what quallcom write about the Astiq codec here
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
The amplifier is part of the package. Thus, the note 7 should have the same amplifier as the HTC 10.
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What Qualcomm's saying doesn't make a lot of sense. The WCD9335 audio codec is part of the S-820 chipset whether it's used in a Samsung or HTC phone. Devs in the HTC 10 forum confirmed its using WCD9335.
Qualcomm, a world leader in mobile technologies, offers the new Snapdragon 820, a complete chipset currently powering or in-development with more than 100 smartphones worldwide. The U.S. versions of Samsung's latest flagship phones, the Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S7 Edge, integrate the Snapdragon 820 chipset. In this chipset, we discovered for the first time a Qualcomm component featuring Fan-Out Wafer-Level Packaging (FOWLP): the Qualcomm Audio Codec WCD9335.
Located on the smartphone's main board, the audio codec chip's presence in the Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge depends on the smartphone version. The international version, featuring an Exynos chipset, integrates the audio codec chip from Cirrus Logic. The U.S. version, featuring the Snapdragon 820 chipset, integrates the audio codec from Qualcomm.
The Qualcomm WDC9335 is wafer-level packaged with fan-out technology. This is still relatively rare in the smartphone market but is expected to spread quickly. The FOWLP technology used is the eWLB, licensed by Intel/Infineon to several OSATs including ASE Group, Nanium, and STATS ChipPAC.
Thanks to this FOWLP process, Qualcomm is able to propose a very small die independent of the area required by the I/O pads. The result is a very cost-effective component that can compete with a standard fan-in WLP technology.
https://globenewswire.com/news-rele...e-Audio-Codec-Solution-from-Cirrus-Logic.html
This is from Qualcomm
A Qualcomm Snapdragon powered smartphone with integrated Qualcomm Aqstic audio codec is engineered to deliver those sounds—no additional equipment (or dollars) needed. And there has been no shortage of smartphones featuring Qualcomm Aqstic, including the HTC 10 and Xiaomi Mi5, powered by the Snapdragon 820 processor (check out these awesome reviews).
Maybe the most impressive part of the Aqstic solution is that it combines the best of both worlds in performance and power consumption. Every aspect of the Aqstic audio solution is highly integrated in the Snapdragon 820, engineered to provide Hi-Fi audio quality while maintaining great battery life.Both the HTC 10 and S7-Series use the same S-820 chip so both use the WCD9335 audio codec because it's integrated which both quotes above confirm. It sounds like Qualcomm gave their audio codec a name for marketing purposes. Since 820 hasn't changed, in facts its been superseded by S-821 and S-823, it doesn't make sense that anything is different codec wise between all phones using S-820. Kind of confusing though.
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It sounds like Qualcomm gave their audio codec a name for marketing purposes. Since 820 hasn't changed, in facts its been superseded by S-821 and S-823, it doesn't make sense that anything is different codec wise between all phones using S-820. Kind of confusing though.
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Finally we have an official response from Motorola.
I'm quite surprised but it's true, defy is equipped with omap3610.
BUT also, it has been confirmed that defy has a PowerVR SGX 530 renderer inside.
http://community.developer.motorola...elopment-resources-available/td-p/7794/page/3
What's your opinion? Why an omap3610 + separate graphic renderer instead of omap3630 (which has the same renderer inside)?
Like i said i'm quite surprised, i was pretty sure the defy's core was 3630. But in my opinion what really matters is the graphic renderer, and it is present!
I can only assume it was cheaper to buy and/or productize the two separate chips as opposed to the 3630.
i can' believe that answer......
'omap3610 + separate graphic renderer' is cheaper than omap 3630 ??
is it possible?
Actually one can Believe that do to Yield when producing the product. Its the same thing with multi-core chips. Putting 2 dual core chips into a CPU is cheaper in the long run than putting 1 quad core because of flaws in the Production of the cores. don't believe me look it up. It could have been a deal brokered to Motorola because of excess yield of a chip made it cheaper to buy them in massive quantity. Shortages of the chip you mentioned but availability of the 2 chip combo could have been another cause.
Well.. this is shaping up to be interesting.
I've heard this thing benchmarks like a beast.. so it will be interesting to see what happens with froyo..
It does make sense instead of an SoC like hummingbird they could have two dedicated chips.. I would imagine with SoC's they run into a lot of potential problems.. if one part on the chip is bad whole chip is bad..
Although it would be funny if they manage to shove an old 8800 into there somehow..
I think MOTO didn't tell the truth!
you wont hear that but ....
the 3610 doesnt has an ISP (Image Signal Processor) !!!
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source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP#OMAP3
3630 has 3D and IVA 2+
Code:
IVA 2+ accelerator enables multistandard
(MPEG-4, H.264) encode/
decode and WMV9 encode at D1
(720 x 480 pixels), 30 fps
Up to 720p HD resolution
3620 has IVA AND 3D
3610 has IVA
Code:
IVA 2 accelerator enables
VGA to DVD video content playback
up to XGA/WXGA display resolutions
so defy cpu/gpu combo is more like 3620
source: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt024b/swpt024b.pdf
That only affects camera picture quality. Phone cams are useless anyway.
I don't believe it.
Everything I have ever plugged the phone into/bench mark tools are telling me its a 3630, including RSD Lite. Nothing has ever told me its a 3610.
My personal opinion, is that Motorola don't want to advertise that it has this CPU as the phone is much cheaper than its "higher end" models and they don't want everyone going out and buying the defy over say the Droid X or Droid 2.
Whatever its got the bench mark results of this phone are awsome - and its on 2.1.
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I don't believe it.
Everything I have ever plugged the phone into/bench mark tools are telling me its a 3630, including RSD Lite. Nothing has ever told me its a 3610.
My personal opinion, is that Motorola don't want to advertise that it has this CPU as the phone is much cheaper than its "higher end" models and they don't want everyone going out and buying the defy over say the Droid X or Droid 2.
Whatever its got the bench mark results of this phone are awsome - and its on 2.1.
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Agree with you
I agree too. Lets get the camera to record 720p - then we will have evidence.
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I agree too. Lets get the camera to record 720p - then we will have evidence.
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shorty66 said:
I agree too. Lets get the camera to record 720p - then we will have evidence.
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yep，hope so
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playback of 720p is a little laggy ....
The 3610 and 3630 have the same APU, right?
And apparently Motorola have paired the 3610 up with the same GPU that the 3630 has built-in, right?
So rather than it being a 3630 that's built in and Motorola are lying, isn't it more likely that the software that reports it to be a 3630 SoC is incorrectly identifying it due to the GPU?
I mean, as far as any software is concerned, if it's the APU that the 3630 has and the GPU that the 3630 has, then it must be a 3630.
Just a quick thought. Would a OMAP3610 have a external bus interface where you could hook up a SGX530 core to ?
Looking at the info for the AM37xx/DM37xx the only way you could hook up such a thing would be throu a memory interface, which IMHO is rather painful.
android.modaco.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=320961&view=findpost&p=1478526
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Just a rethorical question: if it's a 3610 with an "external" GPU, then why even device "says" it's a 3630? (Cannot post correct links, sorry.)
TPGamer said:
Just a rethorical question: if it's a 3610 with an "external" GPU, then why even device "says" it's a 3630? (Cannot post correct links, sorry.)
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My post (2 above yours) offers (IMO) one potential theory why that's the case.
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My post (2 above yours) offers (IMO) one potential theory why that's the case.
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I'm not great with low level hardware stuff, but win7/moto usb drivers identify the device by some kind of ID, right? The guy on mocado said, that the picture in his second post is made, when he was about to flash a new ROM on the phone. And the boot ROM is in the SoC, along with the USB controller. So in that case basicly the SoC identifies it self as a 3630. Correct me if I'm wrong, as I said before, I'm not great with this kind of stuff.
Samsung has just announced theGalaxy S II LTE*& LTE HD (4.65" screen) handset
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"GALAXY S II HD LTESamsung Electronics declared the launch of the Mobile HD era by unveiling the world's first LTE smartphone with the HD Super AMOLED GALAXY S II HD LTE.With HD (1280X720) resolution, the HD Super AMOLED is the first AMOLED display to feature 316 pixels per inch (ppi), higher than the standard 300ppi, resulting in substantial improvements in screen sharpness and readability.A wide variety of high-resolution content services that are provided via the LTE communication network, such as high-resolution video telephony, real-time VOD services, and network games, can be enjoyed more vividly thanks to the HD SuperAMOLED.The GALAXY S II HD LTE will serve as an 'HD theater in hand' by offering an optimal environment for watching films, including the large 4.65-inch screen, screen ratio of 16:9, 110％ natural color reproduction, and 180-degree viewing angle that ensures a clear image from far left or right.The phone supports multiple modes including LTE, HSPA＋ (for SKT and KT) and Rev.A (for LGU＋), and WCDMA/GSM (roaming), enabling a domestic user to seamlessly access the fastest high speed wireless Internet.Substantial improvements were made to the design as well. The narrow bezel technology was employed for the front to make the frame of the 4.65-inch AMOLED display as thin as possible. Emphasis was thus placed on a slim, refined design. The slim feature (9.5mm) ensures a more comfortable grip.Other cutting-edge smartphone functions are provided, including a large battery capacity of 1850mAh, NFC (Near Field Communication), flash support, 8 megapixel camera, WiFi a/b/g/n support, and Bluetooth 3.0＋HS.※ The LTE speed specified above is based on theoretical value (LTE bandwidth of 10MHz each). The actual speed may differ according to the LTE bandwidth, communications standard, and usage environment. Areas where LTE services are provided may differ among operators."
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...i-hd-lte-handset/&category=classic&postPage=1
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Not coming to the US do couldn't care less, bice phones though
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Not a fan of 16:9 at all. It really is a shame that it's becoming the new standard.
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The 5.6 inch model is almost an exact coppy of rumored specs for the next nexus. So I don't know about it notcomming to us.
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Not a fan of 16:9 at all. It really is a shame that it's becoming the new standard.
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Yeah I don't like 16:9 either, I prefer a much wider screen.
This is running a "1.5ghz dual core." I'm thinking this is a Qualcomm chipset, and Adreno220 with 720p doesn't sound all that great.
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It better pack an exyenos or we're benching it out.
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I am pretty happy with my GS2 so I think I can hold out for a little bit and still feel like I have a great device even when these next phones come out. Now if I still had an EVO 3D I am not so sure I would feel the same way.
A 4.5" Super Amoled Plus screen will keep me happy for a little while. Not to mention this flys!
This is basically going to be T-Mobiles inferior phone with an upgraded display and NFC. We'll be able to out process them.
This is what the U.S. carriers should have released. Waiting 5 months after the original launch of the Galaxy SII, there were rumors of the U.S. getting a "+" version with spec bumps, well that never happened. This is a slap in the face to the U.S. carriers in my opinion, I mean ATT and T-Mobile have not even released their Galaxy SII's yet, and now there is a better/upgraded version. Not cool
Not coming to the US, unless you are importing it and if you can, it would be extremely expensive
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These new phones use the Qualcomm 1.5GHz S3 Snapdragon processors. They are not the Exynos processor! Also, it has been said that the Prime will use Ti's OMAP processor.
Yeah, even if this this is coming to the US....it's going to be like 6 months...same thing happened with our GS2.
no Exynos + Mali400 = EPIC FAIL
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These new phones use the Qualcomm 1.5GHz S3 Snapdragon processors. They are not the Exynos processor! Also, it has been said that the Prime will use Ti's OMAP processor.
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The Exynos is better than the OMAP processors correct?
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The Exynos is better than the OMAP processors correct?
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They are both ARM processors, these names refer to the integrated "SoC" (System On a Chip).
"Hummingbird", "OMAPx", "Snapdragon", "TegraX", "Exynos", these are all platform names that (roughly) describe the system that is on the chip. (EDIT: The "system" typically consists of the CPU, GPU, memory controller and I/O, with slightly varying versions of each platform possible)
That's the very simplified version of it. OMAP and Snapdragon and Tegra have versions, Hummingbird and Exynos, so far as I understand it, are different versions of Samsung's evolving platform.
So, this generations Samsung platform ("Exynos") is likely outclassed by anything from the next generation...the OMAP platforms also have a really good reputation--and for good reason. Personally, I'm thrilled at the idea of a Samsung built next-gen OMAP Nexus device.
Personally, I'm thrilled at the idea of a Samsung built next-gen OMAP Nexus device.[/QUOTE]
^this
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They are both ARM processors, these names refer to the integrated "SoC" (System On a Chip).
"Hummingbird", "OMAPx", "Snapdragon", "TegraX", "Exynos", these are all platform names that (roughly) describe the system that is on the chip. (EDIT: The "system" typically consists of the CPU, GPU, memory controller and I/O, with slightly varying versions of each platform possible)
That's the very simplified version of it. OMAP and Snapdragon and Tegra have versions, Hummingbird and Exynos, so far as I understand it, are different versions of Samsung's evolving platform.
So, this generations Samsung platform ("Exynos") is likely outclassed by anything from the next generation...the OMAP platforms also have a really good reputation--and for good reason. Personally, I'm thrilled at the idea of a Samsung built next-gen OMAP Nexus device.
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Oh wow, I didn't know that the Nexus Prime would use a next gen processor.
rockethot said:
Oh wow, I didn't know that the Nexus Prime would use a next gen processor.
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I'm thinking this GS II LTE phone is in fact what the Nexus prime will be and I have to say, that display is damn attractive. I'm so confused. NFC, higher res 4.65 inch screen, Ice cream sandwich and google updates, the ultimate nexus phone that will have high developer activity. That freakin display is may be too nice to pass up.
Att has a galaxy s2 LTE coming in the 4th quarter of this year
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...tandt-lte-secret/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I am pretty happy with my GS2 so I think I can hold out for a little bit and still feel like I have a great device even when these next phones come out. Now if I still had an EVO 3D I am not so sure I would feel the same way.
A 4.5" Super Amoled Plus screen will keep me happy for a little while. Not to mention this flys!
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You "can hold out for a little bit" hahaha this phone ain't even 15 days old yet..... holy sh*t your a tard
Looks like the HTC event released the HTC 8x and 8s
More info to come
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Specs:
here are specs for thoose 3 phones
HTC “Zenith”
Display: 4.7” 720p Super LCD2
Camera: 8 megapixels (1080p capture)
Processor: Quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon
Memory: ? GB RAM
Network: 42Mbps HSPA+ (International Variant)
Release: 4Q 2012
HTC “Accord”
Display: 4.3” 720p Super LCD2
Camera: 8 megapixels (1080p capture)
Processor: Dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon (MSM8260A)
Memory: 1 GB RAM
Network: 42Mbps HSPA+ (International Variant)
Release: October 2012
HTC “Rio”
Display: 4” WVGA
Camera: 5 megapixels (720p capture)
Processor: Qualcomm Snapdragon (MSM8227)
Memory: 512 MB RAM
Network: 14.4Mbps HSPA (International Variant)
Release: October 2012
It is said that the phones will come with NFC support too, complementing Windows Phone 8’s new Wallet experience. Other specs are unknown at the moment, including the specifications of front facing camera (if any), storage size (or if microSD slots are available), and how fast the processors are. Of course, all of the above information are unconfirmed, so take this with a pinch of salt. So how do you like the above three phones? Will you get any of them at launch?
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Lol i'm watching it now!
Planning on 8s if its cheap
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here are specs for thoose 3 phones
specs is from livesite.net
HTC “Zenith”
Display: 4.7” 720p Super LCD2
Camera: 8 megapixels (1080p capture)
Processor: Quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon
Memory: ? GB RAM
Network: 42Mbps HSPA+ (International Variant)
Release: 4Q 2012
HTC “Accord”
Display: 4.3” 720p Super LCD2
Camera: 8 megapixels (1080p capture)
Processor: Dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon (MSM8260A)
Memory: 1 GB RAM
Network: 42Mbps HSPA+ (International Variant)
Release: October 2012
HTC “Rio”
Display: 4” WVGA
Camera: 5 megapixels (720p capture)
Processor: Qualcomm Snapdragon (MSM8227)
Memory: 512 MB RAM
Network: 14.4Mbps HSPA (International Variant)
Release: October 2012
It is said that the phones will come with NFC support too, complementing Windows Phone 8’s new Wallet experience. Other specs are unknown at the moment, including the specifications of front facing camera (if any), storage size (or if microSD slots are available), and how fast the processors are. Of course, all of the above information are unconfirmed, so take this with a pinch of salt. So how do you like the above three phones? Will you get any of them at launch? Let us know in the comments below!
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It's too fast
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Windows Phone just uploaded a video on their YouTube channel. It will give a brief look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgJC91D9qlY
here are the spec sheets
and I thought there'd be a chance where they would announce jelly bean for the One android series. *sigh
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here are the spec sheets
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Thanks Hamdir
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monchee said:
and I thought there'd be a chance where they would announce jelly bean for the One android series. *sigh
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http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/htcs-one-x-jelly-bean-rollout-plans-detailed-r725
Beats Audio on Windows New thing
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razer1224 said:
Beats Audio on Windows New thing
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Beats Audio is nothing more than marketing, it's just taking compressed music and applying equaliser settings to make the music 'pop'. It's little different to any other settings you get on audio devices that claim to make some improvement, which anyone really wanting good audio quality would defeat straight away.
Nice looking phones though, bet they would run Jelly Bean just great
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Phil
i bet my cookies this phone is gonna fail
(becoz its not android)
I bet the zenith is gonna be awesome
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Hi
Beats Audio is nothing more than marketing, it's just taking compressed music and applying equaliser settings to make the music 'pop'. It's little different to any other settings you get on audio devices that claim to make some improvement, which anyone really wanting good audio quality would defeat straight away.
Nice looking phones though, bet they would run Jelly Bean just great
Regards
Phil
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well not this time, they actually hav an amp on the thing
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well not this time, they actually hav an amp on the thing
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Yeah i think the windows sense has an seperate SDK for it they might soon release it for windows developers
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the name is: Windows Phone 8X by HTC, kinda like the Nexus
so no one shared his hands on the audio quality yet? does the amp really work?
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the name is: Windows Phone 8X by HTC, kinda like the Nexus
so no one shared his hands on the audio quality yet? does the amp really work?
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There would be an amp and something else to do with the eqs and simple beats audio profile
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hamdir said:
well not this time, they actually hav an amp on the thing
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They always have had an amplifier, otherwise you wouldn't hear anything :cyclops: More marketing and hype.
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Phil
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They always have had an amplifier, otherwise you wouldn't hear anything :cyclops: More marketing and hype.
Regards
Phil
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Yeah its a marketing hype...just what the one x had
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On UMI ZERO 2's facebook page we can now see a picture showing “Duplex Life, the best from UMI”.
• What does duplex life mean? A dual-screen phone? I remember the first dual-screen phone was from Yota phone2, where one screen is made by Samsung and the back side has an EPD screen.
• The EPD screen is using E ink technology. If you look at Kindle from Amazon, then you will know how the screen looks like.
• The thing with this screen is that it will be perfectly readable even in the brightest sunshine: Fiction, Facebook, Twitter, news, RSS-feeds, blogs, mail, messaging etc.
• All in all, it’s likely that UMI ZERO 2 going to be the world’s second dual-screen smartphone made with EPD. And it seems that UMI will continue with a SAMSUNG display after the first UMI ZERO.
• The official retail price is still unknown, but could get high.
PS. This is an very early engineering sample, it seems that this one still doesn't have the dual display!
Specifications (still unconfirmed)
- MTK6752 SoC 1.7GHz Octa-core
- Mali-T760 GPU
- 13 megapixel rear / 8 megapixel front
- 5.2 inch Full HD 1080p Samung display
- 3GB RAM / 16GB ROM
- Support for 4G LTE
- Support microSD card & OTG
- Dual SIM - Dual Standby
(Picture source http://s7yler.blogspot.de/2015/07/umi-zero-2-will-get-dual-screen.html)
UMI Zero 2 To Feature 4GB of RAM & Helio X20?
Although we had heard a few rumors about the upcoming UMI Zero flagship a few weeks back, recently, there hasn't been much news about this device. However, earlier today, we came across another piece of information about the UMI Zero 2 flagship. It is said that the device will come with 4GB of RAM on board, which if true, will be a first for a UMI smartphone.
In fact, even today, there aren't many 4GB RAM phones in the market. If this does turn out to be true, UMI will join the ranks of the few premium smartphone makers who have released such a device. This much amount of RAM means you no longer have to worry about lag during multi-tasking as it will handle any task thrown at it with ease.
As for the processor, the UMI Zero 2 will reportedly come with a Helio X series chipset. Given that the company is adding 4GB RAM inside, its likely that the phone will feature the deca-core Helio X20 chipset for maximum performance. However, this may drive up the cost unnecessarily, and hence, the company may decide to settle with the MT6795 Helio X10 octa-core chip. Even this processor is quite capable of powering flagship devices, so it won't be disappointing to see it inside the Zero 2.
UMI seems to be making a smart decision by using the Helio X series processor instead of Snapdragon 810. Despite the claims from Qualcomm, Snapdragon 810 is still believed to overheat when used for a long time. As a result, this chip has often been the target of consumer criticism. So, using the powerful Helio X series chip (either X10 or X20) seems to be the right decision at the moment.
As per the previous rumors, UMI could be working on two variants of the flagship UMI Zero 2, one with the dual display and another with a real leather back cover, like the one on the LG G4. The phone will reportedly come with a 5.2-inch QHD panel, 20MP camera and the new USB Type-C port.
Unfortunately, we have no further information about the UMI Zero 2 at the moment, but we will keep you guys updated with new details in the coming weeks.
I'm planning to buy this phone, is there any weakness i should know before?
Looks great!
UMI ZERO 2 will come with premium Liquid metal body
We have been hearing a lot about the upcoming UMi Zero 2 flagship. The latest information on the handset says that the phone will feature 4GB of RAM, which will make it the first such device from the company till date. While the specs are turning out to be quite impressive so far, earlier today we came across some new information about this upcoming handset. And it’s quite interesting too.
According to the latest rumors, the UMi Zero 2 will come with a premium Liquid Metal body. I am sure you would have heard of this alloy which is reportedly tougher than any other material used for a smartphone housing. Its extreme durability and strength has made this alloy quite popular. In fact, Apple has been using the same Liquid Metal for some of its small components. Even though its been years since we first heard about this alloy, smartphones have not yet used this material on a wide scale. In fact, only the Turning Phone can boast of featuring a Liquid Metal body till now. So, it would really be surprising to see a local Chinese manufacturer like UMi use this material for its own device.
Of course, nothing is confirmed so far, so its still very early to make conclusions about the phone's body. Even if the phone doesn't come with Liquid Metal body, other specifications are sure to impress the masses, especially when priced right. Let’s wait for more information about the UMi Zero 2 which should hopefully debut sometime before the end of this year.
Source: https://www.facebook.com/umizero2/p...2061050140410/158148181198363/?type=3&theater
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when will this dual screen smartphone be released?
When you buy the top notch phone that retails more than $1000 you expect to get the best performance. Not only Samsung didn't equipt the Note 10+ with the new SD885+, the new Global version of the phone comes with the Exynos 9825 that lacks in performance against the old SD855. That's not acceptable. What do you think?
The Exynos wins in single core performance and app launch time, they have comparable battery life and the SD wins in multi threaded workloads and GPU. But if you look at the 9820 vs sd855 anandtech review, the gpu is actually almost on par with the SD version and while the 9825 is very slightly overclocked it shouldnt lose this hard. Looks like an optimization issue to me rather than a raw power one. At the end of the day they perform similar in everyday use, but since more people use sd devices than exynos once they will be more optimized for games and such. Dont worry about it too much imo, yes it sucks that we got a worse version globally but its not a huge deal and definitely not a dealbreaker.
I would of thought more people used the Exynos version considering it's pretty much the entire world, while SD is mainly just north america or are samsung's sales outside America really that bad?
Pretty much to be expected as always.
I guess that optimization will improve the 9825 but not sure if it will make it to the SD855 performance. AFAIK Samsung can't use the Exynos chip in the USA because of patent protections so they using SD's. At least they should sell the Exynos version cheaper...
I Think that it's about time I stop buying an exynos note. It performs way worse than the snapdragon variant 3rd year in a row.
For me it is a deal breaker.
A phone asking 1000+ $ and flagged as flagship must have the latest soc, fact.
But....they wouldn't dare putting 855+ in comparison with the exynos9825 that maybe can compete with the almost 2 years old 845 soc. Really a shame.
No upgrading for me, sticking to my note9 and waiting for a proper flagship with flagship specs, means 855+ soc.
I already bought the Note 10+ Exynos before I knew it was inferior to the SD version. But if the next samsung flagship will not fix this, it will be the last Exynos device I'm buying maybe the last Samsung device altogether.
liamR said:
I already bought the Note 10+ Exynos before I knew it was inferior to the SD version. But if the next samsung flagship will not fix this, it will be the last Exynos device I'm buying maybe the last Samsung device altogether.
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Well, aside from performance, if you are into rooting your device, the SD is pretty much not a choice unless you get the Hong Kong version. AFAIK, the only fully rootable version is the Exynos. I personally, would never consider the locked down version of the SD just based on principle. If I own the device and pay over $1000, I want to be the judge of what I can and can't do to it. It's like buying a Ferrari and being told the insurance company has disabled parts of it and it won't drive more than 60 mph. Weather you actually root or not becomes irrelevant. It's the principle.
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I have no issues with the Exynos, it runs smoothly, performance is perfectly acceptable, yes the 855 might be slightly better in certain areas, but I think its marginal.....
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Well, aside from performance, if you are into rooting your device, the SD is pretty much not a choice unless you get the Hong Kong version. AFAIK, the only fully rootable version is the Exynos. I personally, would never consider the locked down version of the SD just based on principle. If I own the device and pay over $1000, I want to be the judge of what I can and can't do to it. It's like buying a Ferrari and being told the insurance company has disabled parts of it and it won't drive more than 60 mph. Weather you actually root or not becomes irrelevant. It's the principle.
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In my last 3 phones from Samsung I didn't feel the need to root so that not a deal breaker for me. If you pay for Ferrari you don't want to end up with Maserati
Have you seen the battery on exynos version. https://youtu.be/RTezwqJgo5M
7 h and 47 min on gaming and rec 4k 60fp. Beat all competitors flagship without p30 pro Exynos is awesome even if is surpass in performance. Lets be real. Exynos will manage anything we drop at him no matter what.Battery is important. And so far by youre complains on xda compare to exynos sd is a failure.
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Have you seen the battery on exynos version. https://youtu.be/RTezwqJgo5M
7 h and 47 min on gaming and rec 4k 60fp. Beat all competitors flagship without p30 pro Exynos is awesome even if is surpass in performance. Lets be real. Exynos will manage anything we drop at him no matter what.Battery is important. And so far by youre complains on xda compare to exynos sd is a failure.
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I saw this test, but I didn't see the SD version tested. Also I have no problem to sacrifice some battery time for more performance (within reason).
I backup my opinion with my eperience. 1 day with note 10+ exynos version. Litle bit waze, 1h talk, 7 h youtube, 1/2 4g 1/2 wifi, some 3d attemp, heavy usage. Phenomenal battery. Exynos from s10+ and note 10+ is a win.
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