Sometimes when I'm in a dimmer area, my display will be so dim I can hardly see it. This doesn't happen in brighter areas.
For reference, it is far far dimmer than brightness setting 1. I have the watch set to auto brightness and ambient off.
Anyone else seeing this?
Yeah, it seems that the 360's auto brightness setting is (at least sometimes) pretty aggressive in low light conditions.
Same here, and I hate that. I always have to go into the settings when the room light is dim, and switch off auto brightness and change to the 1 setting.
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Yeah, it seems that the 360's auto brightness setting is (at least sometimes) pretty aggressive in low light conditions.
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I'm almost positive it's a bug, the low brightness of 1 isn't too bright for very dark situations and the dimmed mode is simply too dim.
I'm pretty sure auto-brightness should turn on at level 1 (if it's dark) and then go to the ultra-dimmed mode before the screen times-out just like in normal brightness.
I don't think I've seen this bug happen in the daytime though, so it does seem like a bug at brightness level 1 only
Any solution to this problem? Drives me crazy.
Thanks
Smart Brightness for Moto 360
Try Smart Brightness for Moto 360. This application allows to set auto brightness with a minimum brightness to avoid a dimm screen on dark situations.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.makinke.smartbrightness
On my Z551 ML, I find the minimum brightness too bright for use in dark environments, but that's not a major issue with a screen filter app running.
I find the maximum brightness too low for comfortable outdoor use in bright sunlight, though. While I can still manage to read everything on the screen, it definitely requires me to stop moving and look closely, sometimes changing the angle of the screen to not let the light hit it directly.
Is this something Asus can fix in firmware/software updates? The brightness range, from minimum to maximum, seems very low, almost like it's being deliberately restricted for some reason.
Is this something Asus can fix in firmware/software updates? The brightness range, from minimum to maximum, seems very low, almost like it's being deliberately restricted for some reason.
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They can if they want to. Or just hope we get Custom ROMS!
You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the OnePlus 3T's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
i feel that they need to dim it more, it's still annoying
One thing I noticed is that the phone offers EXTREME fine tune-ing of the lower brightness end.....when I adjust the adaptive brightness, if I click and drag the setting towards the bottom end, there is tons of adjustability available to the user to find exactly how much brightness you want. Having said that, the lowest settings appears quite dim to me (but not 'dangerously' dim)
The lowest setting for me seems to be extremely bright still, for night usage at least. Every other phone I've used has been able to get far more dim.
Anyone know of any way to lower it further actually?
Chipaton said:
The lowest setting for me seems to be extremely bright still, for night usage at least. Every other phone I've used has been able to get far more dim.
Anyone know of any way to lower it further actually?
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root it and with the help of xposed (or without) you can edit the parameters to make it even dimmer.
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root it and with the help of xposed (or without) you can edit the parameters to make it even dimmer.
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What do I edit? I'm rooted with Xposed.
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What do I edit? I'm rooted with Xposed.
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check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367412
This phone is love
OnePlus 3T is just an amazing phone, I loved it
Got the device for a few weeks and there are already burn ins on the left side
If you don't want the hassle of rooting and running xposed you could just install an app from play store, I use lower brightness by Nu-Kob, nothing fancy but it does the job
I'm using rr with magisk (if any of that even matters when it comes to brightness). When the lights are off and I have the brightness all the way up I can barely look at it. But when I turn the brightness all the way down with the lights off it is perfect and I can see everything very clearly and my girlfriend or has an s6 and she is always jealous that when she turns her brightness down it's still blinding. So I think it's great.
Try Velis Auto Brightness https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.velis.auto.brightness&hl=en
no ads and it works great, tons of parameter to adjust as well.
At night, the brightness is way too much. Observing the display, f.e. playing PoGo in a park at night, you almost get night blind. If you switch automatic brightness off, there is one more step down, but this one is way too dark and without any contrast. Compared to my previous device, it's really bad. I hope, it gets fixed, if possible by the hardware at all.
I also think that the minimum brightness is not dim enough.
I rectify this using an app called Twilight - no root required - which allows to dim + apply red filter
It's usually okay for me, however I use Dimly if I need to go even lower.
This is my first AMOLED screen phone and something I think I may be noticing that maybe you guys can help confirm or deny about AMOLEDs vs LCDs, is that at night when turning the brightness down (way down, like -50 in the Lux Dash app as an example) results in getting the screen to a point where not bright enough to hurt your eyes at all but the blacks are too dark. So there's no real ideal brightness setting in a dark room that equals no eye pain but still allows you to able to see everything on the screen. Or are my eyes just too sensitive and most other people don't need to turn it down as much as I do and therefore don't have this problem?
You tried night mode
Lux is garbage. Factory adaptive brightness and still being able to use the brightness slider to allow on-the-fly adjustments is far superior - it works perfectly on this phone. And in a pitch black room, with adaptive brightness, setting the slider from 0-25% results in an extremely dim screen (1-2 nits) will information still perfectly viewable. Blacks may have uniformity issues, but that is the nature of OLED panels since it is extremely hard to control voltage at near-black levels when the brightness is extremely low.
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This is my first AMOLED screen phone and something I think I may be noticing that maybe you guys can help confirm or deny about AMOLEDs vs LCDs, is that at night when turning the brightness down (way down, like -50 in the Lux Dash app as an example) results in getting the screen to a point where not bright enough to hurt your eyes at all but the blacks are too dark. So there's no real ideal brightness setting in a dark room that equals no eye pain but still allows you to able to see everything on the screen. Or are my eyes just too sensitive and most other people don't need to turn it down as much as I do and therefore don't have this problem?
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Amoled displays, when used with automatic brightness adjustment, have a small problem - when you are viewing them in the dark, they appear too dark. Their contrast ratio is infinity, which means that dark colors are basically zero luminosity or close to zero. A lot of internet imagery is calibrated for lcd displays, so when you lower your phone brightness to make the brightest parts viewable on an amoled display, the dark colors become too dark and blend together. This is especially true when you are viewing a screen in a dark environment. There's nothing you can do but increase device brightness by hand when you are using automatic brightness adjustment and viewing in the dark,
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Lux is garbage. Factory adaptive brightness and still being able to use the brightness slider to allow on-the-fly adjustments is far superior - it works perfectly on this phone. And in a pitch black room, with adaptive brightness, setting the slider from 0-25% results in an extremely dim screen (1-2 nits) will information still perfectly viewable. Blacks may have uniformity issues, but that is the nature of OLED panels since it is extremely hard to control voltage at near-black levels when the brightness is extremely low.
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You do realize that Adaptive Brightness simply changes the brightness of the screen in response to the light sensor reading?
In other words, the phone doesn't care about your preference - it will change the brightness to preset levels.
On Samsung phones, this situation is far more intelligent. The phone still uses the light sensor to adjust the brightness, but the phone also applies a user preset to augment the brightness - when you slide the brightness slider up, the phone will make auto brightness adjustment higher, and vise versa.
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You do realize that Adaptive Brightness simply changes the brightness of the screen in response to the light sensor reading?
In other words, the phone doesn't care about your preference - it will change the brightness to preset levels.
On Samsung phones, this situation is far more intelligent. The phone still uses the light sensor to adjust the brightness, but the phone also applies a user preset to augment the brightness - when you slide the brightness slider up, the phone will make auto brightness adjustment higher, and vise versa.
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WHAT? You have it totally backwards. Stock Android, including the Pixel, uses user input to augment the auto light sensor brightness when adaptive brightness is enabled. If my phone thinks 50% brightness is appropriate, but my slider is set to 100, it will choose something like 75% brightness instead. If I drop the slider to 0% in the same instance, it might choose 25% instead. The user preference will ALWAYS be impacting auto brightness.
Samsung phones, unless it changed with Nougat, rely strictly on what the phone thinks is best for auto brightness. The user can adjust the slider with auto brightness on, but the slider is a direct adjustment 0-100% of the true brightness level, and the slider will change automatically when there is a large shift in ambient light after the display has been turned off at least once. User preference does NOT impact auto brightness unless you set it at that specific moment.
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WHAT? You have it totally backwards. Stock Android, including the Pixel, uses user input to augment the auto light sensor brightness when adaptive brightness is enabled. If my phone thinks 50% brightness is appropriate, but my slider is set to 100, it will choose something like 75% brightness instead. If I drop the slider to 0% in the same instance, it might choose 25% instead. The user preference will ALWAYS be impacting auto brightness.
Samsung phones, unless it changed with Nougat, rely strictly on what the phone thinks is best for auto brightness. The user can adjust the slider with auto brightness on, but the slider is a direct adjustment 0-100% of the true brightness level, and the slider will change automatically when there is a large shift in ambient light after the display has been turned off at least once. User preference does NOT impact auto brightness unless you set it at that specific moment.
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Girl, are you kidding me? I just returned a Note 7 for Pixel XL. What were your phones?
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Amoled displays, when used with automatic brightness adjustment, have a small problem - when you are viewing them in the dark, they appear too dark. Their contrast ratio is infinity, which means that dark colors are basically zero luminosity or close to zero. A lot of internet imagery is calibrated for lcd displays, so when you lower your phone brightness to make the brightest parts viewable on an amoled display, the dark colors become too dark and blend together. This is especially true when you are viewing a screen in a dark environment. There's nothing you can do but increase device brightness by hand when you are using automatic brightness adjustment and viewing in the dark,
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You do realize that Adaptive Brightness simply changes the brightness of the screen in response to the light sensor reading?
In other words, the phone doesn't care about your preference - it will change the brightness to preset levels.
On Samsung phones, this situation is far more intelligent. The phone still uses the light sensor to adjust the brightness, but the phone also applies a user preset to augment the brightness - when you slide the brightness slider up, the phone will make auto brightness adjustment higher, and vise versa.
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Girl, are you kidding me? I just returned a Note 7 for Pixel XL. What were your phones?
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I have a Note7, Pixel XL, and LG V20. Google how adaptive brightness works. There won't be a single article that matches how you say it works.
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I have a Note7, Pixel XL, and LG V20. Google how adaptive brightness works. There won't be a single article that matches how you say it works.
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Give me evidence. I don't care what your hypothetical "articles" say, I had the actual phones and played with their brightness settings.
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Give me evidence. I don't care what your hypothetical "articles" say, I had the actual phones and played with their brightness settings.
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If you seriously can't tell how adaptive brightness works just by using it as compared to Samsung and LG, I don't know what to tell you. It's pretty damn obvious. If I'm the kind of person who prefers a bright screen, I can set adaptive brightness to 100% and it will always be bright, but stay relative to the ambient lighting. If it's a dim room, the screen will be bright, but nowhere near 100% manual brightness. It only hits 100% manual brightness when under bright light like the sun.
Samsung's auto brightness is still very cookie cutter. If you put 2 Samsung phones side by side with auto brightness on, they will always be the same no matter the ambient light. If I take 2 Pixels, both set to adaptive, and put one on 25% and one in 75%, they will always maintain a brightness difference even when ambient light changes. Samsung phones do not maintain user preferences once the ambient light level changes. I almost never have to adjust my Pixel. I always have to adjust my Note7 because I prefer a slightly brighter screen.
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If you seriously can't tell how adaptive brightness works just by using it as compared to Samsung and LG, I don't know what to tell you. It's pretty damn obvious. If I'm the kind of person who prefers a bright screen, I can set adaptive brightness to 100% and it will always be bright, but stay relative to the ambient lighting. If it's a dim room, the screen will be bright, but nowhere near 100% manual brightness. It only hits 100% manual brightness when under bright light like the sun.
Samsung's auto brightness is still very cookie cutter. If you put 2 Samsung phones side by side with auto brightness on, they will always be the same no matter the ambient light. If I take 2 Pixels, both set to adaptive, and put one on 25% and one in 75%, they will always maintain a brightness difference even when ambient light changes. Samsung phones do not maintain user preferences once the ambient light level changes. I almost never have to adjust my Pixel. I always have to adjust my Note7 because I prefer a slightly brighter screen.
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What you are saying is EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of my experience with Note 7 and Pixel XL. I NEVER had to adjust my Note 7 brightness once I set it.
I find myself constantly adjusting Pixel XL brightness setting.
Maybe they both have "adaptive brightness", but the Note 7 version was perfect, and the Pixel XL is just sh`1rt.
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What you are saying is EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of my experience with Note 7 and Pixel XL. I NEVER had to adjust my Note 7 brightness once I set it.
I find myself constantly adjusting Pixel XL brightness setting.
Maybe they both have "adaptive brightness", but the Note 7 version was perfect, and the Pixel XL is just sh`1rt.
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Or maybe you two just have differing opinions on what a "perfect" brightness setting is...
Doesn't matter how you adjust your brightness. I'm just saying that when brightness is low, blacks are darker and disproportionate to other colors.
I love Lux especially with it's profiles. Much better control and accuracy than adaptive brightness. I just wish Lux had an auto-profile switcher based on time of day. I have a day profile, night profile, and car profile.
One thing to note is that Lux allows me to bring the darkness down below 0% to negative values, which is where I usually notice my concerns. But that's what I need to not hurt my eyes at night. So I don't blame the phone or anything - just posted this article out of curiosity. The blacks are probably just turning off completely at some point when I bring the value to below 0% which I think makes sense based on the nature of OLED.
You should just turn on night mode to help with eye strain. If 0% brightness is too bright I don't think you will ever get lux to work the way you want, but night mode helps my eyes a lot.
Pixel XL adaptive brightness adapts to what you set the brightness to. If you go from 0 to 100 in a totally dark room, you notice how the screen stays really bright and doesn't go back to 0 on Pix
Many phones use auto brightness to fullly determine brightness based on sensor and ignores user brightness. If you go from 0 to 100 with an auto brightness phone, the phone will go back to 0.
Some prefer one over the other.
Hey guys,
So as well know, maximum brightness can only be achieved when "Adaptive Brightness" is turned on, for reason of battery usage, temperature, burning, etc...
As far as I understand, if I stand outside, in the most brightest of suns and set the manual brightness to max, once I'll activate Adaptive, the screen should get even brighter, as the situation requires it.
However, that doesn't seem to happen at all. Am I missing something? Did I not understand how this function works? Is my display just not as bright as the common note display?
Thank you!
I'm in blazing sun and toggle AB on off and screen goes to about 20% brightness ..... ??!??