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Hover feature my a$$

Okay, to make a long story short, for the first time ever I'm getting a full phone replacement within a week of having a phone.
Now for the story, get note 2, jump for joy, use s pen, good to go, use s pen again, random lines, dots, accidental screen presses, go to sprint store(affiliate market), "that's simple the hover feature, don't you know how to use your phone" call Samsung "that's simple the hover feature, don't you know how to use your phone" call sprint (corporate) yea that does sound like a faulty unit, we'll get you swapped out right away" now all I wanted was an s pen swap, but I'll live with a fresh phone, but I ask the community now, am I really in the right here for questioning a brand new phone? Or is it truly just the hover feature and I'm just not use to it?
P.S. I do have a screen protector, but I have taken it off to see if the problem still repeated which it did, thus making me reapply the screen protector
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If you are a getting a replacement, why did you post this? If your phone was defective, what is the question?

I ordered my phone directly through Sprint and received either a faulty pen or a faulty phone. Went to Sprint and the customer service representative saw that my pen was registering lines in only certain areas and hitting the keyboard while hovering over in air mode. She knew something was up and went to the "technician" to see what he thought. He didn't even look at the phone and just replied, "it's supposed to do that" repeatedly. She even tried to have him look at how inconsistent this "feature" was as it only made marks or registered hits in certain parts of the phone. It made me rather angry that he didn't even bother to acknowledge the customer rep's concern or mine for that matter. I ended up having Sprint replace the whole phone too which was a pretty smooth process.
I think Samsung has some faulty pens and don't want to acknowledge that fact. Perhaps they know some people either don't use the Spen enough to care or won't simply complain about it. The phone is wonderful and the S-pen, when working correctly, is freaking awesome. Best phone I've ever had and I am not trying to bash sprint or samsung but I think it's in there best interest to acknowledge this issue rather than simply saying it is how the phone is supposed to work.

In case your replacement phone has the same issue, please go here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32908967&postcount=23
This was resolved in the international forums. I was having similar issues and five minutes later the pen was as it should have been. The trick to removing the button cover is to lift from the end opposite the tip. A small clockwise turn and I was all set.

alltimeqb said:
I ordered my phone directly through Sprint and received either a faulty pen or a faulty phone. Went to Sprint and the customer service representative saw that my pen was registering lines in only certain areas and hitting the keyboard while hovering over in air mode. She knew something was up and went to the "technician" to see what he thought. He didn't even look at the phone and just replied, "it's supposed to do that" repeatedly. She even tried to have him look at how inconsistent this "feature" was as it only made marks or registered hits in certain parts of the phone. It made me rather angry that he didn't even bother to acknowledge the customer rep's concern or mine for that matter. I ended up having Sprint replace the whole phone too which was a pretty smooth process.
I think Samsung has some faulty pens and don't want to acknowledge that fact. Perhaps they know some people either don't use the Spen enough to care or won't simply complain about it. The phone is wonderful and the S-pen, when working correctly, is freaking awesome. Best phone I've ever had and I am not trying to bash sprint or samsung but I think it's in there best interest to acknowledge this issue rather than simply saying it is how the phone is supposed to work.
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THAT!!!! that's exactly what happened to me at the sprint store!!!!! it's like they know!!!

JStu313 said:
In case your replacement phone has the same issue, please go here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32908967&postcount=23
This was resolved in the international forums. I was having similar issues and five minutes later the pen was as it should have been. The trick to removing the button cover is to lift from the end opposite the tip. A small clockwise turn and I was all set.
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i'll also keep this in mind, thanks

The screen isn't pressure sensitive either...it's all the s pen.I tried the hovered cardboard trick as well....and the pressure was all the pen. Disappointed Samsung.everyone reviews the phone as having a "pressure input screen", it should read sensor pics up pen data as how hard is being pressed.
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Well it was the pen, just got my new note today and the pen works fine, so if you're having issues, get it replaced
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I have this issue from time to time but its really not a big deal to me, I'll decrease the sensitivity in the pen later on and fix the issue. To lazy to set everything up again even though I have tb

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The screen isn't pressure sensitive either...it's all the s pen.I tried the hovered cardboard trick as well....and the pressure was all the pen. Disappointed Samsung.everyone reviews the phone as having a "pressure input screen", it should read sensor pics up pen data as how hard is being pressed.
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Im guessing youve never used a Wacom tablet before. Thats just how active digitizers work, pressure sensitive pens. No reason to be disappointed.
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take the pen and tap it on its side a few times quite hard...i read about this fix on here was skeptical tried it and now my spen works awesome
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962499 real fix

dchtlh said:
take the pen and tap it on its side a few times quite hard...i read about this fix on here was skeptical tried it and now my spen works awesome
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962499 real fix
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An old fashioned hulk smash always does the trick
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How did things get this far without mentioning duct tape, WD40, and "30 grade oil and ball bearings"? It's all ball bearings these, everybody knows this.
For (S) pen n00bs like me, I like it so far. Luckily, (knock on wood) I seem to have a good one out of the box. I've used the notepad feature for my last trip to Home Depot. Sorta difficult at first to write on it. Kinda gotta "figure it out" for yourself, I think.
One feature I had to get used to was hovering the pen over buttons. Mine seemed "click-happy" anytime I hovered over a button. Again, practice.
So far, I am VERY pleased with the Note 2. (Rooted stock w/ TWRP recovery)

[Q] Galaxy Note 2 S Pen Slot Loose

I know that there is already a thread about the loose of the spen but when I put it in the slot, it's a little wobbly but its locked inside. I wanna ask if anyone's the same.

I have found this to be the case in all devices with a stylus of some kind. With repeated use the fit of the stylus isn't as firm as it would have been in the beginning.
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Loose S-Pen Silo
skiezlightning said:
I know that there is already a thread about the loose of the spen but when I put it in the slot, it's a little wobbly but its locked inside. I wanna ask if anyone's the same.
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Yeah the same thing has happened with me too, it doesn't feel like it will fall out or anything but if you tap the screen near it you will hear it rattle a little bit, also if you touch it while in the "silo" it wobbles

Easy fix to keep the S pen in place.
skiezlightning said:
I know that there is already a thread about the loose of the spen but when I put it in the slot, it's a little wobbly but its locked inside. I wanna ask if anyone's the same.
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I upgraded from the note 5 to note 8. Love them both but I've lost or broken several pens for both phones. Last time I replaced the S pen I added a drop of super glue to the back of the S pen- just enough to make a small bump on the back of the pen- and let it cure for the night. It's been several months now and even after several drops it hasn't fallen out. Stays nice and snug. If you apply too much glue, just lightly sand or shave the cured glue until the pen fits like you want it. Be careful not to apply too close to the button on the pen- back of pen is best- or the button may stick. And unless you want it to be a permanent part of the phone.... make sure the glue is FULLY cured before it is reinserted!?

S Pen way too easy to lose!

So, I've owned every single version of the Note. Prior to owning the Note 4, I've only lost on S Pen and that was the one on the original Note 1. To this day I have no clue how I did it, but I lost it. Never came close to losing another since. However, in the five months I've owned the Note 4, today marks the second time I've lost the damn S Pen to this device! It seems like the enclosure for the pen on this version of the Note is really shoddy and much less secure than other versions. Many instances of my pen randomly popping on with a slight fall and such.
The first time I lost the S Pen, it was because—as stupid as this is—I had taken my case off the phone and somehow, the process of taking the case off slightly dislodged the S Pen from its housing. I had no idea this had happened. I was on the subway train preparing to exit and AFTER I had exited the train with the phone in my hand, my S Pen alert went off. That's when I realized the expensive S Pen was MIA! Apparently it fell completely out of its housing once I started walking, How absurd! I was able to purchase new OEM S Pen for cheap during the holidays, and I've been paying close attention to it ever since. As stated, there's been several times since that I've had to push the pen back in its housing because it had loosened itself. Very concerning.
Today, I had existed a vehicle with bags and I forgot I had my Note on my lap. When I got up, the Note fell on the ground face up. I didn't realize anything was wrong until I walked about 10-15ft then my S Pen alert went off. That's when the elusive S Pen was once again missing in action! I searched everywhere and could not find that damned thing! I don't know if someone actually picked it up in that short amount of time or what, but it is gone! Has anyone else had or noticed this problem?? Never had my S Pen dislodging itself on the Note 1, 2 or 3. This has me pissed! Now I have to spend money I really don't have at this time to purchase another one of these damn pens because I really do use mine quite often.

ive only had my note 4 for about 2 months but my s pen has yet to fall out yet. knocks on wood.

Both scenarios are have happened to me on all of my notes...and the pen has sometimes come dislodged/fallen out.
NEVER has the pen ever fallen out during normal use.

Sorry you've had such issues but i can say that I've dropped by Note 4 a few times from pretty high up and the pen has never fallen out.
Edit: the only thing I can think of is maybe people who use the pen more, will cause more wear on the sides of the pen so it doesnt stay as snug in the holder? I dont use my pen nearly as much as other people so the pen stays nice and snug.

Interesting. Never had issues with the S Pen. One thing I noticed and want to confirm with you guys... on the Note 3 you could push the S Pen in slightly and it clicks out on a spring. Push it back in and it locks in place. On the Note 4 it doesn't seem to have a spring in it. Is that normal?

svengalis said:
ive only had my note 4 for about 2 months but my s pen has yet to fall out yet. knocks on wood.
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Yes, usually it has to be (for me) some sort of abnormal circumstance. In just normal use, I've never had an issue. But if I drop the phone or like I said... taking a protective case off, I've noticed my S Pen easily becomes dislodged.
erick161 said:
Both scenarios are have happened to me on all of my notes...and the pen has sometimes come dislodged/fallen out.
NEVER has the pen ever fallen out during normal use.
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Same with me except this issue has only arisen for me using the Note 4. I've never used a case on any of my other Notes, so I'm sure that's one big reason why this issue has been foreign to me until now,
nyydynasty said:
Sorry you've had such issues but i can say that I've dropped by Note 4 a few times from pretty high up and the pen has never fallen out.
Edit: the only thing I can think of is maybe people who use the pen more, will cause more wear on the sides of the pen so it doesnt stay as snug in the holder? I dont use my pen nearly as much as other people so the pen stays nice and snug.
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That could be an issue too. Normal wear from more usage. Still, it's very concerning. Seems like my pen dies to pop out whenever it can.

heXacode said:
Interesting. Never had issues with the S Pen. One thing I noticed and want to confirm with you guys... on the Note 3 you could push the S Pen in slightly and it clicks out on a spring. Push it back in and it locks in place. On the Note 4 it doesn't seem to have a spring in it. Is that normal?
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It seems to me like the s pen on the Note 3 was much more secure. I seem to remember a more of a "clicking" into place on that phone. On the Note 4, seems like it just slides in but it's not really "locked" in, not that it ever was, just more-so noticeable on the Note 4.

Dr. Evo said:
It seems to me like the s pen on the Note 3 was much more secure. I seem to remember a more of a "clicking" into place on that phone. On the Note 4, seems like it just slides in but it's not really "locked" in, not that it ever was, just more-so noticeable on the Note 4.
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No. What I mean is on the Note 3 you push it and it clicks out a little bit for easier retrieval. Kind of like a regular ballpoint pen. When you push the button on the top down once the ballpoint appears. Push it again and it slides back inside the pen. That's what the S Pen on the Note 3 did. On the Note 4 it doesn't do that. That's what I'm trying to figure out if that's normal and made like that or do I have a defective spring?

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AFTER I had exited the train with the phone in my hand, my S Pen alert went off. That's when I realized the expensive S Pen was MIA!
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I didn't realize anything was wrong until I walked about 10-15ft then my S Pen alert went off. That's when the elusive S Pen was once again missing in action!
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Has anyone else had or noticed this problem??
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I haven't had a problem with the S Pen falling out on its own (though I've only had my phone a short while), but I have noticed that the S Pen alert barely ever fires. I think the alert could be a great feature, but I don't trust it based on my experiences so far. Interestingly, if I walk away with the S Pen in-hand, the alert never fires. If I walk away with the phone in-hand, it sometimes fires. I don't know if that behavior is intentional, or if its just random and I'm seeing a pattern that's not really there. At any rate, I think that the S Pen alert would be better if it was more sensitive. It might have helped you find yours in the two scenarios that you described above.
On a related topic, I was thinking of proactively getting a second S Pen, with the expectation that I'll probably lose the original at some point (or, more likely, break it from chewing on it; it's pretty flimsy). I was going to use the discount code that Samsung emailed me when I registered my handset, but the bloody thing is $30! I know that I can get one cheaper elsewhere but, Just out of curiosity: Is there some magic in the S Pen that makes it expensive, or is the cost pure hype?

Sounds like your problem is your case. I had the pen fall out when I remove the back cover on occasions. Other than that it's in there and doesn't pop out.

Don't know if I'd call it magic, but I tried two different oem (NOT Samsung) s pens. Garbage. I finally knuckled and shelled out for the real thing as a backup. The cheap ones either didn't fit in the holder, didn't react with the phone correctly, or both.

Dr. Evo said:
So, I've owned every single version of the Note. Prior to owning the Note 4, I've only lost on S Pen and that was the one on the original Note 1. To this day I have no clue how I did it, but I lost it. Never came close to losing another since. However, in the five months I've owned the Note 4, today marks the second time I've lost the damn S Pen to this device! It seems like the enclosure for the pen on this version of the Note is really shoddy and much less secure than other versions. Many instances of my pen randomly popping on with a slight fall and such.
The first time I lost the S Pen, it was because—as stupid as this is—I had taken my case off the phone and somehow, the process of taking the case off slightly dislodged the S Pen from its housing. I had no idea this had happened. I was on the subway train preparing to exit and AFTER I had exited the train with the phone in my hand, my S Pen alert went off. That's when I realized the expensive S Pen was MIA! Apparently it fell completely out of its housing once I started walking, How absurd! I was able to purchase new OEM S Pen for cheap during the holidays, and I've been paying close attention to it ever since. As stated, there's been several times since that I've had to push the pen back in its housing because it had loosened itself. Very concerning.
Today, I had existed a vehicle with bags and I forgot I had my Note on my lap. When I got up, the Note fell on the ground face up. I didn't realize anything was wrong until I walked about 10-15ft then my S Pen alert went off. That's when the elusive S Pen was once again missing in action! I searched everywhere and could not find that damned thing! I don't know if someone actually picked it up in that short amount of time or what, but it is gone! Has anyone else had or noticed this problem?? Never had my S Pen dislodging itself on the Note 1, 2 or 3. This has me pissed! Now I have to spend money I really don't have at this time to purchase another one of these damn pens because I really do use mine quite often.
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Sounds like you need to stop dropping your device... Problem solved..

Android300ZX said:
Sounds like your problem is your case. I had the pen fall out when I remove the back cover on occasions. Other than that it's in there and doesn't pop out.
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Yeah, the case was the problem because I replicated it more than once to troubleshoot the first incident. Afterwards, I decided not to use a case. The Note 4 is beautiful and I couldn't stand having it hidden under plastic. However, as I've stated, the pen has became dislodged on numerous other occasions when it really shouldn't have. That's the concern. I guess I wanted to know if any one else had a similar issue.

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mcmannion said:
I haven't had a problem with the S Pen falling out on its own (though I've only had my phone a short while), but I have noticed that the S Pen alert barely ever fires. I think the alert could be a great feature, but I don't trust it based on my experiences so far. Interestingly, if I walk away with the S Pen in-hand, the alert never fires. If I walk away with the phone in-hand, it sometimes fires. I don't know if that behavior is intentional, or if its just random and I'm seeing a pattern that's not really there. At any rate, I think that the S Pen alert would be better if it was more sensitive. It might have helped you find yours in the two scenarios that you described above.
On a related topic, I was thinking of proactively getting a second S Pen, with the expectation that I'll probably lose the original at some point (or, more likely, break it from chewing on it; it's pretty flimsy). I was going to use the discount code that Samsung emailed me when I registered my handset, but the bloody thing is $30! I know that I can get one cheaper elsewhere but, Just out of curiosity: Is there some magic in the S Pen that makes it expensive, or is the cost pure hype?
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I don't think even Samsung has a great deal of faith in that s pen alert based upon the way they describe it. I too have had iffy results on getting it to alert so a gave up on it. Also fearful of eventually laying it down and losing it I bought a spare and it sits in a drawer.
As for the cost.. You hit it on the head.. Pure hype. Accessories are almost always marked up 60-70%. But it's essential to those of us who really use it, so they feel safe in charging that much for it.

I too had the same problem. One day i dropped my phone and it hit the edge of the dresser & dislodged the pen only half way out befire it hit the floor and broke the pen in half at the S-pen button. The pen still worked though, so i put a piece of scotch tape about 2" long vertically up the pen to keep it together until i got a new one. I carefully wrapped the piece of tape centering it over the pen button and the 1/2 wide tape went around the pen 1 layer thick almost perfect. Low and behold the pen works perfectly and it always stays in without any issues ! .... Hope you try it : )
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I too had the same problem. One day i dropped my phone and it hit the edge of the dresser & dislodged the pen only half way out befire it hit the floor and broke the pen in half at the S-pen button. The pen still worked though, so i put a piece of scotch tape about 2" long vertically up the pen to keep it together until i got a new one. I carefully wrapped the piece of tape centering it over the pen button and the 1/2 wide tape went around the pen 1 layer thick almost perfect. Low and behold the pen works perfectly and it always stays in without any issues ! .... Hope you try it : )
erick161 said:
Both scenarios are have happened to me on all of my notes...and the pen has sometimes come dislodged/fallen out.
NEVER has the pen ever fallen out during normal use.
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My friend has lost several on all of his phones. He's very rough with stuff. I've had every note and still do to this day. Never had a pen pop out or lost, except my note 2 pen is gone. I loaned it to the friend and he lost it. Maybe change the settings to make a sound when it comes out.

Fixed loose pen with clear nail polish
I'd forgotten about this thread; thanks to the recent posters for bumping it.
Since my original post last year, in which I stated that I hadn't had problems with the S Pen falling out of my Note 4, the S Pen has become progressively looser to the point that it falls out on its own. I tried a variety of solutions to get it to stay in, and finally found one that works, and that seems to be durable, after about a month of usage:
I painted the tip of the pen with a few coats of clear nail polish.
Let me define what I mean by "tip" in this context. I specifically painted the:
o Sides of the pen (i.e. the smooth narrow edges, not the textured wide edges);
o Starting at the little grooves that hold the pen in the phone, and;
o Ending at the point where the body of the pen starts to curve towards the nib
I applied four, thin coats of nail polish, following the drying/recoating instructions on the bottle. Furthermore, I let the whole thing dry for two days before inserting it back into the phone, just to make sure it was fully cured. Lastly, I used a small file to clear any residue from the original grooves. I don't think that I actually got any nail polish in there, but I wanted to make sure that they were nice and sharp so the little hook inside the phone would catch the pen firmly.
So far, so good. The pen stays in firmly - at least as firmly as when the phone was new. The nail polish is intact and unscathed; it doesn't seem to be scratching or otherwise coming off inside the phone.
HTH, and good luck.

I must be lucky. In December this will be my daily phone for 2 years. My S-Pen has been tight and snug since the day I bought it. As far as dropping the phone, I've only dropped the phone really good once. Incidentally it was right after I stopped using a case because I had just purchased an extended battery. Alas, after that drop it crumpled my s-pen slot slightly making it even more snug. No luck at life, but by god this S-Pen is here to stay.

I fastened a 2 ft chain between my spen and phone. Biker wallet style! Haha j/k

Possibly loose SPen

Been about three times now. The SPen is in the phone but about to come out as if it has been clicked.
While I never touched the SPen at all.
Do note I'm using the case that came with the phone.
I don't think that the pen can be accidentally touched as the case covers that part while.
Would like to know if the same has happened with any of you out there.
Thank you for your time.

Well, no, not with this one, or any of my previous notes

Mine came out on it's own once, but maybe I or my kids didn't put it in properly. I actually lost it, but alarm sounded and I went back to look for it and found it. Since it never happened again, I'm leaning towards operator error. I've seen replacement pens for $30, so I'm not loosing sleep over it.

you need to make sure when you "click" it in you aren't actually "unclicking" the top of the pen. I used to do this on my note 8 ALL the time.

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Mine came out on it's own once, but maybe I or my kids didn't put it in properly. I actually lost it, but alarm sounded and I went back to look for it and found it. Since it never happened again, I'm leaning towards operator error. I've seen replacement pens for $30, so I'm not loosing sleep over it.
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Where did you see the s pens for sale? I would like to get a black or silver one, as I dont like the blue one that came with the aura glow model

I've seen it at B&H, which is large camera/electronic store in NYC for $30 online, but only blue. Samsung should have it for $42, if you have credit for preorder, could be way to use it?
I'm waiting for Amazon to stock it, now they only have N8 and N9. I was thinking to maybe order yellow, but I'm not in a rush, especially that I have 2 extra s-pen from N7 and they work, except for gestures.

winol said:
Where did you see the s pens for sale? I would like to get a black or silver one, as I dont like the blue one that came with the aura glow model
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You can buy them for $30 direct from Samsung.com. The black one is in stock right now. Just be aware, if you have the Aura Glow, then your frame is silver. The button or cap of the black S-Pen is black.l, so it won't match. I plan to buy the white S-Pen when its back in stock, since it has the silver cap.

Thanks bro!

pete4k said:
I've seen it at B&H, which is large camera/electronic store in NYC for $30 online, but only blue. Samsung should have it for $42, if you have credit for preorder, could be way to use it?
I'm waiting for Amazon to stock it, now they only have N8 and N9. I was thinking to maybe order yellow, but I'm not in a rush, especially that I have 2 extra s-pen from N7 and they work, except for gestures.
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Actually I saw one on Amazon the other day. It was for the 10. They had blue, but the other colors were for the 9, e.t.c.. So they are on there, just have to search and go through the listings..
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I've had mine pop out multiple times. So far I've been lucky that it pops out but hasn't completely fallen out. Kind of concerning.

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you need to make sure when you "click" it in you aren't actually "unclicking" the top of the pen. I used to do this on my note 8 ALL the time.
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I'm guessing and I think this is what happened.
I must have taken out the pen and started playing with it by clicking it and when I put it back in the phone I must have done so with the clicked in position.
So basically when I put the pen in with the clicked in position the press and click sound would come but not for the pen setting in the phone but for the button release and since we intuitively are used to associating the sound with the pen being in place it must have been loose all along.
Guess Samsung should have made a mechanism to avoid this obvious problem, maybe by playing a small beep when the Spen is in place, possibly they can release the same in a future update.
For now gotta keep this in mind or stop playing with the pen.

So today my phone dropped (about 4 feet). The pen flung out of it and cracked in half. I guess its better than the glass cracking but I'm surprised it made it out of the phone.

NEERO said:
Guess Samsung should have made a mechanism to avoid this obvious problem, maybe by playing a small beep when the Spen is in place, possibly they can release the same in a future update.
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I've gotta say I have to disagree with you there. I don't think Samsung should've done more, or should've fdone anything differently. I didn't have the first Note, but I've had each one since the Note 2 was released. Throughout multiple phones and multiple years, I've NEVER had an Spen accidentally eject, so I can say with certainty that it isn't a fault of Samsung.
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For now gotta keep this in mind or stop playing with the pen.
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Well there ya go. That's the cause of your problems, not something Samsung did or didn't do. Just to be clear, I use my Spen quite a bit every day.
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howie411 said:
So today my phone dropped (about 4 feet). The pen flung out of it and cracked in half. I guess its better than the glass cracking but I'm surprised it made it out of the phone.
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my work trouser pockets are fairly shallow I've lost mine a few times now in varying ways either knocking it up out of my pocket or it sliding out while I've been sitting, luckily my case has 100% protected the phone every time other than a hairline crack in the screen protector, but everytime it has made the jump at over 2 foot the pen has fired clean out of the phone and I've had to have a look round for the pen (black pen doesn't stand out too well) luckily it's never damaged the pen, but it does seem to come out fairly easy with any impact as it only seems like a friction fitting and not any mechanical hold.
so to me the more you use the pen it will likely get looser as it does only seem it's there purely on friction with the port it lives in.

The extraction button just pops out to grab the s pen, it does not secure the spen in any way, what maintains the s pen in place, are two dents placed about 2 cm from the tip, which I guess get caught inside by a pressure retainer, like some cabinet doors do, so, an impact will eject the spen depending on how it strikes the impact surface

The action of the SPen on my old Note 8 is like a Rolls Royce. You click it, then the pen pops out 1/4 of an inch. Pull it and it comes out with zero friction. Press it back in all the way to the point of clicking and it never comes out accidentally. A joy to use. My Note 10 Plus has a really stiff SPen though. Press it and it comes out 1/4 of an inch but then I have to pull like heck to get it out. The friction is crazy. Same when I push it back. I can get the SPen 2/3rds of the way back in but then encounter crazy friction until it has pressed all the way back in. Not a nice feeling SPen at all. Better than a super-loose SPen I guess.

Odd, the feeling of my note 10+ is exactly as the one of my note 8, very smooth, the same as with my note 7, the feeling with the 3 and 4 was not as good though

yeah there isn't much friction on mine as said above it's probably only a slight bump as the tip passes into what ever retains the pen, but even that doesn't feel very solid. if you are getting really high friction I would check for dirt or something in the slot.
but yeah I get the point on the pen coming out if hit on the correct angle, it just feels like it could have been a bit stronger, not that I should really make a habit of dropping the phone out of my pocket. only Note I had before this was briefly a 7 before the recall, but it felt more like a positive connection when you pushed the pen in. admittedly never had the phone long enough to find out how strong it actually was.

Spen can't come out, it's stuck

Hi all,
Has anyone such a problem - when push on spen it clicks and then pops out a bit but you can't get it out? It's stuck. Does anyone has some suggestions? I can't pull it out at all...

Put some force on it using your finger nails and try to break it free... otherwise disassembling the phone is the other option.
Lol, or break the end off and drill it out.
The new improved Ronco Spen Extractor... it slices, it dices.

You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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baylakedrive said:
You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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That's a thought... try letting the case get warm (not too warm or cold) or put it in the freezer for a few minutes.
Tough wuv with either cure it or break it...
Do Not use any kind of lubricant or solvent.

I take it you can press the little bit on the end of the pen and that comes out and then its stuck from then on or can you not even press the end bit out? Paul
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I noticed on my note 20 already I've had to wipe my pen with alcohol my daily oils and dirt make it feel gritty sometimes

baylakedrive said:
You could try some semtex [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji28]
But sorry I have no idea I've not heard of this before.
Has it just stopped coming out? or has it had some damage? Could it be heat OR cold related?. Paul
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TheMadScientist said:
I noticed on my note 20 already I've had to wipe my pen with alcohol my daily oils and dirt make it feel gritty sometimes
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Alcohol can craze many plastics... not a good plan.
Lol, I've had isopropyl literally disintegrate a butane lighter in under a minute, leaking butane like a sieve.

If you put a tempered glass screen protector on it could be the adhesive has gotten inside with the S-pen and then cured.
Depending on what the adhesive is (if that is the problem) depends on how you might be able to extract it...

777Nalsur777 said:
Hi all,
Has anyone such a problem - when push on spen it clicks and then pops out a bit but you can't get it out? It's stuck. Does anyone has some suggestions? I can't pull it out at all...
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Have you checked YouTube?
There's several videos on how to get the pen to come out.
The simplest method I found was the 1st result of googling "How to remove a stuck S-Pen".
Most other videos are variations on the same method/principle.

Hi to all. I have tried a lot of methods and non of them works. As I was saying I just can push on it and spen end pops out to be released and when I'm trying to pull it it is stay there like a rock. Before a while I was not be able to even push on it, I thought maybe some sand get inside from a beach, and yes, I was right. When I clean it with some type of medicine alcohol (with blowing it out of course) it became clickable again. So I suppose maybe this button doesn't send a signal to the phone anymore to release spen?
I have a thought...
Can I try to place a different spen near the phone, connect it with my phone and push a top button on a new spen, would it release my old spen from my phone?

Or, maybe, there is somewhere application to manually force this deamn motor
to release the stylus? I've found only app that saying was the spen top button pushed or not. That's how I figure out that this part could be broken. I hope it is because I would rather replace my spen than open my phone.

The top button on the spen does nothing except provide an easy way to pull it out.

blackhawk said:
The top button on the spen does nothing except provide an easy way to pull it out.
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Could you please explain how it works when you try to get it out?

777Nalsur777 said:
Could you please explain how it works when you try to get it out?
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It's simply to help grasp it. It's not a lock.
When you reinsert it at about the .6 inch mark you start to feel slight uniform resistance.
Oddly at last .1 inch it seems to pull it in; I believe it's magnetic! Interesting critter.
Behaves the same if button is in or out.
Confirmed, there's a magnet in the last half inch of the spen. That's what holds it in place.
That's why it will pop out if you drop it hard enough.
There are no other mechanical mechanisms holding in place... normally.

blackhawk said:
It's simply to help grasp it. It's not a lock.
When you reinsert it at about the .6 inch mark you start to feel slight uniform resistance.
Oddly at last .1 inch it seems to pull it in; I believe it's magnetic! Interesting critter.
Behaves the same if button is in or out.
Confirmed, there's a magnet in the last half inch of the spen. That's what holds it in place.
That's why it will pop out if you drop it hard enough.
There are no other mechanical mechanisms holding in place... normally.
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Understood. Thanks. But that is strange why it is stuck.

777Nalsur777 said:
Understood. Thanks. But that is strange why it is stuck.
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Something is physically preventing it from moving.
Contamination of some kind... you can try to force it out.
If that fails it's repair shop time.
Look at a breakdown video for this phone, it will give you some clues how hard or easily a repair shop can fix it. I don't recommend taking it apart yourself, these phones are bears to disassemble.

777Nalsur777 said:
Hi to all. I have tried a lot of methods and non of them works. As I was saying I just can push on it and spen end pops out to be released and when I'm trying to pull it it is stay there like a rock. Before a while I was not be able to even push on it, I thought maybe some sand get inside from a beach, and yes, I was right. When I clean it with some type of medicine alcohol (with blowing it out of course) it became clickable again. So I suppose maybe this button doesn't send a signal to the phone anymore to release spen?
I have a thought...
Can I try to place a different spen near the phone, connect it with my phone and push a top button on a new spen, would it release my old spen from my phone?
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The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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gernerttl said:
The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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Actually it's held in place by a magnet; the end of the spen is magnetic.

blackhawk said:
Actually it's held in place by a magnet; the end of the spen is magnetic.
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Actually, no it is NOT. IT is held in by FRICTION. Every S Pen in EVERY Note device is that way.
Something has gotten on the OPs S Pen or has gotten in the phone which is causing it to stick.

gernerttl said:
The pen is held on by friction only. The button on the end is nothing more than a way to pull it out using your fingers. It does not lock it in.
Pairing another pen will do nothing.
You're going to have to use more force to pull it out. Otherwise, either take it to a Samsung store, or send it in to get it removed.
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Hi, you were right. I've got it out. Thank you all. There was a lot of very small sand like dust inside.
I've used a medical oil based medicine to fill a hole with Spen first of all - thought that there was even some super glue (that is how it was hard to pull it out and that medicine oil has some preferences that it could get weak super glue, but it was not the case), that oil helped me just to lubricate all the hole inside of the phone where Spen placed. Later I've attached a strong piece of yarn around the Spen button and tried to pull it out. After few attempts no result I was hopeless and tried to pull much harder even till it brakes. It went out then. Now top Spen button is a bit loose but it works!
Thank you guys for your suggestions and help one more time.
Now I will dry all inside and outside with a little of an alcohol to be on a safe side.