This looks like an excellent opportunity to put the scratch testing question to bed.
Post your pre turn-in scratch test results here.
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Since you started the thread, we'd like to see the first result from you.
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Since you started the thread, we'd like to see the first result from you.
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This.
And he ran away lmfao
I bought my Black N7 (SM-N930T) just before the recall, (Sept 1). I had it go caseless for the first 24 hours and I can confirm that have a few micro scratches. They're so faint that I can't photograph them, but they're definitely there. Even though it was caseless I babied the hell out of it and never let it sit on any surface as hard as a 6 mohs. I went and got a case for it the second day. I know it's anecdotal and I'm not going to scratch my phone intentionally, but I certainly think Gorilla Glass 5 isn't as scratch resistant as Corning says. What I'd like to see is scratch tests done on a Note 7 after its been exchanged. Only time will tell if this becomes another big controversy.
TLDR: Mine scratched too easily and too soon.
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And he ran away lmfao
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You know you want to do it...
Retarded thread.
Don't be pissed if Samsung figures out a way to isloate via Serial Number and tells you your device is NOT affected.
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Retarded thread.
Don't be pissed if Samsung figures out a way to isloate via Serial Number and tells you your device is NOT affected.
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If they sold a $900 phone that scratches as easily as they say...
Why are you defending them?
If it doesn't scratch, what's the worry?
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Retarded thread.
Don't be pissed if Samsung figures out a way to isloate via Serial Number and tells you your device is NOT affected.
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That is in the works. Return now while you can.
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That is in the works. Return now while you can.
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Mine has no issues and gets 7-8h+ SOT and stays cold.
I'd rather not return if I don't have to.
My carrier also said to wait for instructions as they get them from Samsung Canada.
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If they sold a $900 phone that scratches as easily as they say...
Why are you defending them?
If it doesn't scratch, what's the worry?
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What ? You are making no sense.
This isn't about IF it scratches or not.
It's about using your head and realizing that Samsung might narrow down the issue with further investigation to specific batches which could be traced by Serial Number / IMEI.
There is no point in trying to "scratch test" your $900 phone on purpose because there is no gurantee that within a week or two or three that Samsung will replace the device.
I mean, why should they replace your phone if they figure out that it isn't affected by the issue....
Again, they are STILL INVESTIGATING. They MIGHT be able to narrow it down so hold of on the intentional damage / torture tests imho.
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Mine has no issues and gets 7-8h+ SOT and stays cold.
I'd rather not return if I don't have to.
My carrier also said to wait for instructions as they get them from Samsung Canada.
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What ? You are making no sense.
This isn't about IF it scratches or not.
It's about using your head and realizing that Samsung might narrow down the issue with further investigation to specific batches which could be traced by Serial Number / IMEI.
There is no point in trying to "scratch test" your $900 phone on purpose because there is no gurantee that within a week or two or three that Samsung will replace the device.
I mean, why should they replace your phone if they figure out that it isn't affected by the issue....
Again, they are STILL INVESTIGATING. They MIGHT be able to narrow it down so hold of on the intentional damage / torture tests imho.
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They've already been recalled by Carriers in the US.
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If they sold a $900 phone that scratches as easily as they say...
Why are you defending them?
If it doesn't scratch, what's the worry?
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No one is defending Samsung. We are ridiculing your behaviour and attitude as we indeed should. Samsung are doing all they can to rectify this situation and owners like you are just adding to the problem with puerile behaviour. :silly:
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No one is defending Samsung. We are ridiculing your behaviour and attitude as we indeed should. Samsung are doing all they can to rectify this situation and owners like you are just adding to the problem with puerile behaviour. :silly:
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Exactly.
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They've already been recalled by Carriers in the US.
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I'm in Canada and my Carrier says it's a "voluntary" recall with more instructions/details to follow.
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I'm in Canada and my Carrier says it's a "voluntary" recall with more instructions/details to follow.
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It's not voluntary here. They want you to immediately stop using the phone. and turn it in for an Interim phone or decline the Note 7. They want you to stop immediately.
And their FAQ file says damage is irrelevant to the exchange.
I'm not saying smash with a sledge hammer.
These phones will be put back as new front and back. It would be nice to know if normal handling scratches them.
But it would be interested how it responds to keys and what not in the pocket.
Basically carry it as a un-babied phone.
If GG 5 is what Samsung says it is, you shouldn't worry carrying it normally.
I think is they backslid on protection they need to know it happens and what we feel about it.
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It's not voluntary here. They want you to immediately stop using the phone. and turn it in for an Interim phone or decline the Note 7. They want you to stop immediately.
And their FAQ file says damage is irrelevant to the exchange.
I'm not saying smash with a sledge hammer.
These phones will be put back as new front and back. It would be nice to know if normal handling scratches them.
But it would be interested how it responds to keys and what not in the pocket.
Basically carry it as a un-babied phone.
If GG 5 is what Samsung says it is, you shouldn't worry carrying it normally.
I think is they backslid on protection they need to know it happens and what we feel about it.
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Why are you still going on about scratches.
We know it scratches....
It scratches LESS than plastic while being more shatter resistant than regular curved glass could ever be.
That's the point of GG5. Because of the double curved front and back glass, they had to create a type of glass that was more shatter resistant. Previous GG formulations likely would not have worked and been very weak especially at the curved edges.
I think they have done a fine job overall. Would I have preferred a more scratch resistant non curved glass ?
At first I thought yes. Now after using this phone, I say NO. It is much more compact and easier to hold this way.
All I need now is to find the genuine Samsung screen protector somewhere...
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Why are you still going on about scratches.
We know it scratches....
It scratches LESS than plastic while being more shatter resistant than regular curved glass could ever be.
That's the point of GG5. Because of the double curved front and back glass, they had to create a type of glass that was more shatter resistant. Previous GG formulations likely would not have worked and been very weak especially at the curved edges.
I think they have done a fine job overall. Would I have preferred a more scratch resistant non curved glass ?
At first I thought yes. Now after using this phone, I say NO. It is much more compact and easier to hold this way.
All I need now is to find the genuine Samsung screen protector somewhere...
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The question I believe that most people have is whether or not it scratches easier than GG4? My Galaxy S6 w/ GG4 managed to get a scratch on the screen only after a few days of ownership and I was very careful with it. I don't believe if someone here happens to get a scratch on the Note 7 that it automatically implies that it's somehow easier to scratch overall compared to GG4. I tried to see how a Note 7 would hold up at a local retail store and I could not leave a single scratch on it using keys and other metal objects. I can't help but think that opinions of GG5 scratch resistance have been permanently biased because of one Youtube video. Here is another video that appears to contradict the notion that GG5 scratches almost as easily as plastic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l0xpSZTlC0
I think this video is a step in the right direction but I would like to see someone else do a similar test that jerryrigeverrything did before we start to preach the gospel of #scratchgate and state it as irrefutable fact.
I've never owned a phone that didn't get scratches on it visible from certain angles. As far as the recall goes, Samsung has already stated that they would be replacing the phone for everybody that bought it. So for them to go back and say only this certain serial numbers would be pretty ****ty imo. But I wouldn't put it past them doing it. I guess i need to get with Verizon and see what I nees to do.
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The question I believe that most people have is whether or not it scratches easier than GG4? My Galaxy S6 w/ GG4 managed to get a scratch on the screen only after a few days of ownership and I was very careful with it. I don't believe if someone here happens to get a scratch on the Note 7 that it automatically implies that it's somehow easier to scratch overall compared to GG4. I tried to see how a Note 7 would hold up at a local retail store and I could not leave a single scratch on it using keys and other metal objects. I can't help but think that opinions of GG5 scratch resistance have been permanently biased because of one Youtube video. Here is another video that appears to contradict the notion that GG5 scratches almost as easily as plastic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l0xpSZTlC0
I think this video is a step in the right direction but I would like to see someone else do a similar test that jerryrigeverrything did before we start to preach the gospel of #scratchgate and state it as irrefutable fact.
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I read on a Swedish forum that an employee at MediaMarkt (largest electronics chain in Europe) informed a customer the demo devices use GG4.
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I'm in Canada and my Carrier says it's a "voluntary" recall with more instructions/details to follow.
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Which Carrier are you on? I'm with Telus, and their official statement says it's not voluntary. They recommend turning in the Note ASAP, and either getting a loaner until the replacement arrives, or swapping to a different phone.
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Which Carrier are you on? I'm with Telus, and their official statement says it's not voluntary. They recommend turning in the Note ASAP, and either getting a loaner until the replacement arrives, or swapping to a different phone.
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Bell and they said voluntary.
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My stupid Glide on Rogers fell on the living room carpet and the screen shatered.
I thought this things are a little more durable than this...I guess I was wrong.
Oh well now i need to decide what to do with this piece of crap.
Sorry I just needed to get this out of me.
Lol I don't think you're allowed to have nice things. Buy an old school Nokia. Perfect for people with butterfingers since those things are like bricks.
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Lol I don't think you're allowed to have nice things. Buy an old school Nokia. Perfect for people with butterfingers since those things are like bricks.
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Did you sighn up just so you can post a smart ass remark?WOW dude congrats to you and you are of to a good start.
I have owned many phones before this one and droped a few as well but none were damaged like this one.
Life goes on!
Doesn't the captivate have a gorilla glass screen?
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My stupid Glide on Rogers fell on the living room carpet and the screen shatered.
I thought this things are a little more durable than this...I guess I was wrong.
Oh well now i need to decide what to do with this piece of crap.
Sorry I just needed to get this out of me.
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I am sorry for your loss....must've bee a really hard/high fall, I dropped my Glide 4 times highest 3-5 feet and no scratches, and everything still working (HW/SW).
You can sell that thing for parts....I believe someone will be interested, or try a costly screen replacement if you want. You can ask Rogers how to deal with it....
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Doesn't the captivate have a gorilla glass screen?
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It does have gorilla glass (Corning) but even so, if it's a hard fall, screen will shatter.....My Infuse (I997R) once dropped from a 5.8 ft head height, screen facing the ground, but it only got minor scratches at the plastic parts, no screen damage. My friend's Infuse fell, not as high as mine, but screen shattered.....really depends.
The original Captivate had Gorilla Glass, but the Captivate Glide does not.
I've dropped this on the carpet multiple times, must have been one bad fall.
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Doesn't the captivate have a gorilla glass screen?
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The original Captivate had Gorilla Glass, but the Captivate Glide does not.
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Could not come up with any references at samsung.com, samsung.ca, att.com or rogers.com indicating a presence of gorilla glass..
However most of the reviews and specifications in other websites mentions this has Corning Gorilla Glass protection.
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I've dropped this on the carpet multiple times, must have been one bad fall.
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I have dropped mine twice, including one facing the screen.. luckily not faced any damage so far..
However there is a scratch on the screen protector.. Have to see, if it is ons creen also..
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Could not come up with any references at samsung.com, samsung.ca, att.com or rogers.com indicating a presence of gorilla glass..
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Samsung Canada already removed the Glide from their Smartphone/Mobile Phone products section. GSMArena has posted that it has Corning Gorilla Glass (there is also a Disclaimer note below).
I doubt this phone has gorilla glass since it cracked so easily.
Anyway I decided to fix this phone since I like it so much and a local shop is charging me $195.00 for the part and labor.
solentdan said:
I doubt this phone has gorilla glass since it cracked so easily.
Anyway I decided to fix this phone since I like it so much and a local shop is charging me $195.00 for the part and labor.
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Wow....I feel for you dude that is a hard price to learn for a simple drop...once I was getting on my motorcycle and had my phone on my pouch on the side (Many years ago) and the phone fell out of the pouch while riding. I had just got it to 2 weeks ago. was a 200$ Samsung phone. I was so pissed at myself I rode to the Cell Store and bought another exact phone for the 200$ price tag that I paid the 2 weeks ago.
Some times accidents happen that are out of our control and we just have to take it in stride, for kicking ourselves will not make it better, but learning from our mistakes is all we can do.
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Some times accidents happen that are out of our control and we just have to take it in stride, for kicking ourselves will not make it better, but learning from our mistakes is all we can do.
JB
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Agreed, my bro smashed up my brand new Camry three times. They're just things and things can be replaced. Improving ourselves, increases our income and we can smash and buy stuff whenever we feel like it
Okay I had this phone flung at tile about 5 feet and it hit the screen hard nothing is wrong with mine works like it always has I have the invisa shield though
-sent from my insanely awesome captivate glide-
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Did you sighn up just so you can post a smart ass remark?WOW dude congrats to you and you are of to a good start.
I have owned many phones before this one and droped a few as well but none were damaged like this one.
Life goes on!
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Didn't mean to sound offensive. Sorry dude. If you do end up deciding to fix it though, don't go through Rogers unless you have warranty. They overcharge on parts. Better off going on eBay and ordering a screen replacement there.
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Didn't mean to sound offensive. Sorry dude. If you do end up deciding to fix it though, don't go through Rogers unless you have warranty. They overcharge on parts. Better off going on eBay and ordering a screen replacement there.
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Yes but unfortunately the screen replacement does not install itself. I do not know how easy it is to change it but perhaps he does not know how to do something like that even if he does find the parts.
To all my fellow HTC One X owners - are you using protection? LOL
I'm simply asking because I was wondering if anyone is going commando with the phone, and whether the screen has shown any scratches as a result? I know the phone is supposed to be sporting the all-powerful Gorilla Glass 2, but I don't trust it yet and so have put a screen protector on the front. This dulls the lustre of the screen a bit, so I am thinking of removing it.
How about yourselves? What has been your own personal choice?
you never know.
I got mine protected.
i saw a post about someone having scratches already. Then I viewed the crazy video of the gorilla glass2 scratch test performed by one *FINE* lady here in xda.
I decided to protect it then. the screen protector doesn't protect the whole screen though.
Edit: have to rephrase she's here now.
Sybregunne said:
i saw a post about someone having scratches already. Then I viewed the crazy video of the gorilla glass2 scratch test performed by one crazy lady here in xda.
I decided to protect it then. the screen protector doesn't protect the whole screen though.
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Heres the crazy lady - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590172
I used to have a screen protector on my sg2, then took it off after a year and it looked like a brand new phone, felt like i was missing out on the beautiful screen. I was going to get one for the one x, but I have extra insurance included in my phone contract against any kind of damage, accidental etc.. and it seems like it'll be hard to completely cover the glass, especially on the sides as I've seen on the forums that some people have had issues getting it to stay stuck.
I treat most things like they are a new born child when I first get them, then after a while, you get comfortable. I don't want to have this sexy looking phone and cover it with screen protectors and back covers - even if it did cost a lot of money.
one crazy lady here!
nah i'm not going to bother with a screen protector after my test i think....only thing i'm really concerned about is that camera lense. Would like to know what it's made of and how i can protect it (without sticking gel cases on the back etc)
It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).
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It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).
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My right pocket on any kind of clothing is my dedicated phone pocket. I put nothing in there with it aside from my smooth leather wallet. If you put keys in there and other sharp stuff, then it's your own fault in my opinion! You don't throw your house keys at your television or computer do you? So why throw them on your pride and joy mobile phone! hehee
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one crazy lady here!
nah i'm not going to bother with a screen protector after my test i think....only thing i'm really concerned about is that camera lense. Would like to know what it's made of and how i can protect it (without sticking gel cases on the back etc)
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Why not get a screen protector and cut a small circle out of it and stick it over the camera?
Just got mine in the post, I'm going bare back!
Sent with Desire.
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Why not get a screen protector and cut a small circle out of it and stick it over the camera?
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i think someone else did that and it didn't stick too well...also degraded image quality a little i think
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It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).
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LOL i attacked it with keys....as a test before i filmed i actually attacked it with a pair of nail scissors to make sure keys would be fine . Trust me i have been totally obsessing over the possibility of scratches...but nobody i have shown it to, and myself cant find a mark on it!
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LOL i attacked it with keys....as a test before i filmed i actually attacked it with a pair of nail scissors to make sure keys would be fine . Trust me i have been totally obsessing over the possibility of scratches...but nobody i have shown it to, and myself cant find a mark on it!
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I'm not balming you. But same **** happend to me with HD2, DHD, SGS2.
Gorilla Glass my ass...
After owning the phone for like 6 months, check the screen again, can garantee you, you will find some small sand scratches.
You'll probably end up with scratches due to sand particles that somehow end up in your pockets. Basically metal won't scratch the glass, but sand will. I won't bother with a screen protector, but I do expect to see at least a couple of microscratches at some point in the near future.
To be honest the first one is the only one that hurts. After that it's bearable.
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To be honest the first one is the only one that hurts. After that it's bearable.
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So true!
I dunno - technology these days. Screens can stand up to an assault from nail scissors. What's it going to be for Gorilla Glass 3? Attacks from ninjas armed with samurai swords?
I did
I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.
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So true!
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@moo what's with your avatar. Put some clothes on :-D
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.
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I have the HTC branded screen protector on my Desire. It's been on since the day I got the phone around 18mths ago along with a case-mate Tough. The protector still looks like new, with one small scratch on it.
Having said that, I'm still on the fence about the One X screen. I'll probably go for another case-mate Tough as it has been worth the money on the Desire for the protection.
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@moo what's with your avatar. Put some clothes on :-D
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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That's mee showing my muscles xD
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I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.
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I didn't like the official screen protectors, stuck onto the piece of card with some adhesive, by the time i had pulled them off (as carefully as possible) it left a dint in my screen protectors, both ended up with a horrible air bubble where the adhesive had warped the film.
I might just get a nice case and stick with it.
I'm just waiting to see whether i'm keeping it or selling it, i've been appalled by the battery life so far, but the screen seems to be the culprit, at minimum brightness, the screen eats 1% of the battery for ever 5-10 minutes it is on, hopeless when you're playing games, anyone know any solution to this apart from never playing games on the phone?
Wat screen protectors do you guys use?
I have the official HTC ones on mine. but they dont wrap around the edges. Which causes it to sort of "meh". The problem is that the edges of (my) official screen protector dont connect with the screen.
So I am wondering if there are any other brands that do not have this problem and I can order on ebay/amazon or some other website (I live in belgium )
I had dropped my phone and needed new glass. The digitizer was fine. Here is the site I bought my screen from.
http://www.parts4repair.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-d710-spint/
Chris
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I had dropped my phone and needed new glass. The digitizer was fine. Here is the site I bought my screen from.
http://www.parts4repair.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-d710-spint/
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The glass is the digitizer... It also houses the soft keys as well. It is fused to the screen and will require a heat gun or heat plate to separate from the screen properly. This post is full of misinformation. You will need to purchase either both the screen and digitizer separately or as a single unit. It will be almost impossible for you to replace just the glass unless you have access to some very expensive equipment to separate it and fuse the replacement in place properly.
I've watched several videos on youtube showing the removal of just the screen from the digitizer on the S3. The guys on there use either a heat gun or hair dryer and don't have to disassemble the phone to replace just the glass. Do a search and watch a few and see if you want to tackle it. Mine has a crack in it and I'm considering trying it to see if I can.
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I've watched several videos on youtube showing the removal of just the screen from the digitizer on the S3. The guys on there use either a heat gun or hair dryer and don't have to disassemble the phone to replace just the glass. Do a search and watch a few and see if you want to tackle it. Mine has a crack in it and I'm considering trying it to see if I can.
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You should always disassemble the device when applying heat to it for a repair. Heat kills electronics. There is plastic inside the phone that can and will melt when heat is applied. Like the power and volume buttons. Ribbon cables can also be damaged. There is also rubber inside.
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You should always disassemble the device when applying heat to it for a repair. Heat kills electronics. There is plastic inside the phone that can and will melt when heat is applied. Like the power and volume buttons. Ribbon cables can also be damaged. There is also rubber inside.
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Yeah, cause they never get left in a hot car. Or out in the hot August sun in Florida. Etc.
I'm not suggesting you use the max heat setting on one. Some common sense should be used.
Okay....This is a bad idea...
I used to work for the repair center at Sprint and I was quite good at it, it takes quite a lot of heat to remove those screens from the digitizer. If you apply that heat to an assembled phone, then at the very least you will destroy the LCD.
Also ribbons are VERRRRY sensitive.
And you should not be leaving your phone in the car in the summer...That is just stupid.
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Yeah, cause they never get left in a hot car. Or out in the hot August sun in Florida. Etc.
I'm not suggesting you use the max heat setting on one. Some common sense should be used.
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You also stated the videos were from the S3. A completely different phone.
If you want to kill your phone, that's all you. But do not come here telling people it is ok to do crazy stuff like that on their phone. I have worked in phone repair and small electronics repair for 6 years and know for a fact that it takes a high amount of heat to separate the digitizer assembly from the actual screen itself. There are proper methods of doing things, and then there is the method and shortcuts that some jackass came up with and got lucky on. But 90% of the time, it is a failure causing more damage if not completely breaking the device as a whole. Furthermore, A hot car in FL produces nothing compared to the heat of a heat gun or heat plate. And using a hair dryer? I am laughing at you right now.
Stop being a jerk. I didn't suggest anyone do anything but to check out a few videos and to make their OWN decision. I just love internet know-it-alls. If I decide to experiment on my phone, then what's it to anyone on here? My phone, my decision. If it works, then great, if not then guess what? It's my phone, my fault. Don't come on here with your holier than thou attitude and assume you know who you're calling out.
Again, I pointed out that there are people who have successfully removed their screens on their S3's. And the OP should check them out and decide for him/herself. As for the hair dryer, laugh all you want, but if you're gonna try it, then that's precisely what I would try first due to the low temperature output to see if it was even a viable option to unseat the glass from the adhesive beneath.
And lastly. Why not try a cheaper alternative if you need to replace the glass anyway? In my case, I'm not filing an insurance claim and I'm not going to get mine repaired at a repair center. So if I attempt just a screen replacement and I am unsuccessful, then I replace the digitizer/screen assy. anyway. I don't see what's so crazy about that.
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And you should not be leaving your phone in the car in the summer...That is just stupid.
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I did not suggest you should leave your phone in a hot car. I'm merely illustrating a point. Todays phones go through quality control measures and I'm sure they test them in real world conditions. For a lot of people a phone is just a tool and sometimes they leave them places that you or I would probably would not because they are not as OCD about their electronics.
...did you even read our comments? If you use a heat gun on your assembled phone, you will likely FRY YOUR MOTHERBOARD. There will be no purchasing of new screen as you would need a whole new phone. Though these phones are only $180 these days.
Still you suggested something that is very likely to break a phone without so much as a "this might be a bad idea".
There are "internet-know-it-alls" and there are people who know what they are talking about. You are the former, we are the latter.
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Censura_Umbra said:
...did you even read our comments? If you use a heat gun on your assembled phone, you will likely FRY YOUR MOTHERBOARD. There will be no purchasing of new screen as you would need a whole new phone. Though these phones are only $180 these days.
Still you suggested something that is very likely to break a phone without so much as a "this might be a bad idea".
There are "internet-know-it-alls" and there are people who know what they are talking about. You are the former, we are the latter.
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Thank you for setting me straight oh great one.
If you are ok with possibly breaking your phone even more then go for it. I like to DIY things too and sometimes the results are good and other times I break stuff. Either way its still fun. Let us know how it turns out.
I sell complete screens for $50 much easier to replace as well.
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I sell complete screens for $50 much easier to replace as well.
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Where are you selling the glass/digitizer for $50?
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Where are you selling the glass/digitizer for $50?
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Through private pm's. I have lots of feedback as well in the epic touch q&a
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Stop being a jerk. I didn't suggest anyone do anything but to check out a few videos and to make their OWN decision. I just love internet know-it-alls. If I decide to experiment on my phone, then what's it to anyone on here? My phone, my decision. If it works, then great, if not then guess what? It's my phone, my fault. Don't come on here with your holier than thou attitude and assume you know who you're calling out.
Again, I pointed out that there are people who have successfully removed their screens on their S3's. And the OP should check them out and decide for him/herself. As for the hair dryer, laugh all you want, but if you're gonna try it, then that's precisely what I would try first due to the low temperature output to see if it was even a viable option to unseat the glass from the adhesive beneath.
And lastly. Why not try a cheaper alternative if you need to replace the glass anyway? In my case, I'm not filing an insurance claim and I'm not going to get mine repaired at a repair center. So if I attempt just a screen replacement and I am unsuccessful, then I replace the digitizer/screen assy. anyway. I don't see what's so crazy about that.
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I did not suggest you should leave your phone in a hot car. I'm merely illustrating a point. Todays phones go through quality control measures and I'm sure they test them in real world conditions. For a lot of people a phone is just a tool and sometimes they leave them places that you or I would probably would not because they are not as OCD about their electronics.
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I think they are just worried noobs will find this thread on Google, destroy their phone, and blame xda as a whole; by not having really good warnings and fully testing something, it might give the false impression that it's a good idea when maybe it's not...
That said, everyone should be cool to each other, we're all working and learning together. Isn't the goal to have a good time and gain knowledge?
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I sell complete screens for $50 much easier to replace as well.
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That sounds more than reasonable, and it's a community based solution too.
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Never heard back from the OP on this one
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Never heard back from the OP on this one
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Whoops i responded to a zombie thread that was bumped because of a side topic, lol
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Just came back from Best Buy where i like to get my screen protectors installed. I like paying for it to be done because of their 30 day window of infinite retrys lol. Thing is, ive never had to take it back to get it redone because every single time i leave the store with them flawless. No bubbles to let 'settle' or any runs to let 'settle'. This time though, im not so happy with the initial product.
He claimed that this version of Invisashield is a gel application different than the usual liquid application I'm used to, and claims its prone to initial settle bubbles and runs. I usually get them done at the mobile section of Best Buy, but they were swamped so i went to geek squad to have it done. Was this a mistake? Do you guys think this will settle in a day or so? I have no problem going back and getting it redone, i just don't want to hurt the guys feelings. I wanted to show it to friends tomorrow at work, but with a gnarly screen protector, im reluctant.
I attached some picutres taking from my OLD Note 4
Why put a screen cover on Gorilla Glass?
I work in the Geek Squad at best buy, just wait 48 hrs,you have to wait that long before you can tell if its a real bubble or liquid that has not dried. If it still has those bubbles in your pictures after 48 hrs make them do it again if you paid for the install. I dont think all of those in your pictures are going to go away, but we cant exchange and reapply until 48 hrs( at least thats the way its supposed to be).
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Why put a screen cover on Gorilla Glass?
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Why not? its still glass, can still be scratched. Its not indestructible just because its Gorilla glass. I can't tell you how many phones i sent off for screen damage repairs when we used to handle that stuff in store.
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I work in the Geek Squad at best buy, just wait 48 hrs,you have to wait that long before you can tell if its a real bubble or liquid that has not dried. If it still has those bubbles in your pictures after 48 hrs make them do it again if you paid for the install. I dont think all of those in your pictures are going to go away, but we cant exchange and reapply until 48 hrs( at least thats the way its supposed to be).
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Why not? its still glass, can still be scratched. Its not indestructible just because its Gorilla glass. I can't tell you how many phones i sent off for screen damage repairs when we used to handle that stuff in store.
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thanks for the reply. after further inspection, i noticed a piece of dust under the protector by the home button. it wasnt causing a bubble, but the fact that it was there means there wasnt enough care put into the installation.
took it back and waited in line this time for someone from mobile dept. I luckily got help from the same girl who did my note 4. she is very good and isnt afraid to rip off the protector is she isnt happy with it. Needless to say it looks much better, and what bubbles are there look different then the other ones. these ones i feel WILL settle.
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thanks for the reply. after further inspection, i noticed a piece of dust under the protector by the home button. it wasnt causing a bubble, but the fact that it was there means there wasnt enough care put into the installation.
took it back and waited in line this time for someone from mobile dept. I luckily got help from the same girl who did my note 4. she is very good and isnt afraid to rip off the protector is she isnt happy with it. Needless to say it looks much better, and what bubbles are there look different then the other ones. these ones i feel WILL settle.
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No doubt, thats what i couldnt tell in the pics, if it was dust or just air, air you can fix, dust its a goner
Since I have to return it anyway it thought I would give it a go. It takes FANTASTIC pictures underwater! Use the volume keys as the shutter button. It focused perfectly and is really quick.
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You can't post that and not post the underwater photos!
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This will save me from buying an underwater housing for my DSLR!
I just wiped it down after. Incredible. I'm amazed they dont advertise this capability.
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A Barracuda took off with mine!
Dude! That's is animal cruelty! what if it melts down on its mouth?
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it is also an oportunity for other tests, scratch tests, I am going to test the liquid protector
It's bad. One of mine is all scratched up from vibrating face down.
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Since I have to return it anyway it thought I would give it a go. It takes FANTASTIC pictures underwater! Use the volume keys as the shutter button. It focused perfectly and is really quick.
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Damn good idea im goin to dominican on 23rd for a week perhaps i should take full use of this lol
Case report #36 - phone/ battery explodes while taking pics underwater.
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Since I have to return it anyway it thought I would give it a go. It takes FANTASTIC pictures underwater! Use the volume keys as the shutter button. It focused perfectly and is really quick.
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You know that they refurbish recalled units right? So you are advocating water damage to your current unit because you know that you will get a brand new one? This is vandalism!
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A Barracuda took off with mine!
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Dude! That's is animal cruelty! what if it melts down on its mouth?
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Deep fried barracuda!
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You know that they refurbish recalled units right? So you are advocating water damage to your current unit because you know that you will get a brand new one? This is vandalism!
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So I have to take extra care of MY device because someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it? It's mine until Samsung gives me a new one, so I can do whatever I want with it. Period.
Also, you can take underwater photos without problem. Guys it's IP68 certified, it means that it can get underwater more than 30 minutes. If you dry it as soon as you leave it out of water, there's no damage.
Yes, device is absolutely fine
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So I have to take extra care of MY device because someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it? It's mine until Samsung gives me a new one, so I can do whatever I want with it. Period.
Also, you can take underwater photos without problem. Guys it's IP68 certified, it means that it can get underwater more than 30 minutes. If you dry it as soon as you leave it out of water, there's no damage.
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1) "So I have to take extra care" - no, just don't damage to the thing with water.
2) "MY device" - no, your old device has been recalled, you will be getting a brand new one. The current one is the old recalled one, not yours.
3) "someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it" - no... Someone might be you, getting back your refurbished device.
4) Do you really not understand how recalls work? They don't just throw away old, recalled devices...
You are truly an idiot if you are asking to damage recall units with water!
Lol it would be funny if they just change the battery and send the old ones back .
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1) "So I have to take extra care" - no, just don't damage to the thing with water.
2) "MY device" - no, your old device has been recalled, you will be getting a brand new one. The current one is the old recalled one, not yours.
3) "someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it" - no... Someone might be you, getting back your refurbished device.
4) Do you really not understand how recalls work? They don't just throw away old, recalled devices...
You are truly an idiot if you are asking to damage recall units with water!
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I'ts quite hard to understand your english, hence why I don't really get your point. As I said before, as long as you dry your device after submerging it and it's not salted water, there's no damage. I know how recalls work. Usually you get the same device/car/whatever you're recalling but fixed. Since this device is sealed and you can't replace the battery without dissasembling it, they give you a brand new one free of charge instead of fixing your actual device. Also, since the recall is optative, your device is still yours even if Samsung asks you to exchange it for a new one. The affected devices are dissasembled to use parts of it and/or go through a quality test to see if the device gets accepted to be refurbished. Does it have a scratch? Is it water damaged? Is it dented or shattered? Dumped. That's it. Samsung does not sell refurbished devices by themselves, usually a third party company offers a refurbished, no-warranty version for a discount. In the last statement Samsung says that they're commited to bring us 100% quality devices, hence why a water damaged refurbished device is not even a chance for them.
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1) "So I have to take extra care" - no, just don't damage to the thing with water.
2) "MY device" - no, your old device has been recalled, you will be getting a brand new one. The current one is the old recalled one, not yours.
3) "someone else will reuse it for half of the price I paid for it" - no... Someone might be you, getting back your refurbished device.
4) Do you really not understand how recalls work? They don't just throw away old, recalled devices...
You are truly an idiot if you are asking to damage recall units with water!
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Yes... but the note 7 is waterproof for 30 mins to 1.5m..
so therefore he aint gonna water damage his phone...
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I'ts quite hard to understand your english, hence why I don't really get your point. As I said before, as long as you dry your device after submerging it and it's not salted water, there's no damage. I know how recalls work. Usually you get the same device/car/whatever you're recalling but fixed. Since this device is sealed and you can't replace the battery without dissasembling it, they give you a brand new one free of charge instead of fixing your actual device. Also, since the recall is optative, your device is still yours even if Samsung asks you to exchange it for a new one. The affected devices are dissasembled to use parts of it and/or go through a quality test to see if the device gets accepted to be refurbished. Does it have a scratch? Is it water damaged? Is it dented or shattered? Dumped. That's it. Samsung does not sell refurbished devices by themselves, usually a third party company offers a refurbished, no-warranty version for a discount. In the last statement Samsung says that they're commited to bring us 100% quality devices, hence why a water damaged refurbished device is not even a chance for them.
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You clearly understand zero about water resistance nor the IP rating system. I am too tired to bother to write about it so do what you like with the mobile.
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Yes... but the note 7 is waterproof for 30 mins to 1.5m..
so therefore he aint gonna water damage his phone...
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Its not "Water proof" The mobile has a certain specific water resistance. Please don't think you can take your mobile to depths of 1,5M and it will not be compromised. Depth is only a small part of the water resistance rating. Pressure is the major part. You can gently immerse your mobile in still clean water for 30 mins up to a depth of 1.5M. IF, however, you subject said mobile to movement, violent movement, such as swimming or diving in the pool then water may be forced due to pressure into the mobile even at 2" depth!
The way to look at the mobile water resistance is to accept that if you get it wet in the rain or use it with wet hands it may be fine but they are not underwater devices by any means and are not sold as underwater cameras, such cameras cost a fortune and are highly specialised.
Water 'pressure' is the deciding factor in a water resistant mobile. Active high pressures even in a few inches of water will cause a failure of those seals.
A test for you. Stand at the side of your pool and jump spreading your legs and taking your arms above your head, see how many you can manage in 20 seconds. Now enter your pool up to neck depth and do the same exercise. It feels like you have 10kg weights strapped on your arms and legs.....that feeling of added weight is water pressure.
Now imagine the pressure your mobile would be under if you repeated said exercise while holding your mobile. :highfive:
Hope you can understand my poor attempt at explaining this?
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PS, WHY would one desire to take a mobile phone underwater to take photos in a swimming pool in any case? The sea, okay I get it even though the salt water would eventually damage those seals as will the chemicals in a swimming pool. Read the owners manual. Its very clear on this matter.
Ryland Johnson said:
You clearly understand zero about water resistance nor the IP rating system. I am too tired to bother to write about it so do what you like with the mobile.
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Its not "Water proof" The mobile has a certain specific water resistance. Please don't think you can take your mobile to depths of 1,5M and it will not be compromised. Depth is only a small part of the water resistance rating. Pressure is the major part. You can gently immerse your mobile in still clean water for 30 mins up to a depth of 1.5M. IF, however, you subject said mobile to movement, violent movement, such as swimming or diving in the pool then water may be forced due to pressure into the mobile even at 2" depth!
The way to look at the mobile water resistance is to accept that if you get it wet in the rain or use it with wet hands it may be fine but they are not underwater devices by any means and are not sold as underwater cameras, such cameras cost a fortune and are highly specialised.
Water 'pressure' is the deciding factor in a water resistant mobile. Active high pressures even in a few inches of water will cause a failure of those seals.
A test for you. Stand at the side of your pool and jump spreading your legs and taking your arms above your head, see how many you can manage in 20 seconds. Now enter your pool up to neck depth and do the same exercise. It feels like you have 10kg weights strapped on your arms and legs.....that feeling of added weight is water pressure.
Now imagine the pressure your mobile would be under if you repeated said exercise while holding your mobile. :highfive:
Hope you can understand my poor attempt at explaining this?
Ryland
PS, WHY would one desire to take a mobile phone underwater to take photos in a swimming pool in any case? The sea, okay I get it even though the salt water would eventually damage those seals as will the chemicals in a swimming pool. Read the owners manual. Its very clear on this matter.
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Yea true it does depend on what he means by underwater photos. I
If hes on about diving then yes that will damage the phone, especially in salt water. But If He just gently placed his phone under the surface of the water in a pool and took a photo I'm sure it would survive fine.