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Galaxy Note 510 -PRE order in India - Rs.30900 free book cover. Is it worth buying?

Galaxy Note 510 -PRE order in India - Rs.30900 free book cover.
Galaxy Note 510 is a SIM version available for PRE Order for Rs. 30900 ($ 570.64). Is it worth buying?
Book Cover worth 2600 is free with pre order. Should i pre order or w8 for other tablets?
I want a tablet for playing games, watching movies, may use S pen.
Link - https://www.samsungindiaestore.com/...10_GT-N5100ZWA?cid=estore-stampbanner-note510

"Is it worth buying?". Nobody can answer that question for you. Everybody has different expectations, budgets, preferences. There are plenty of reviews and comments on these forums, and elsewhere online. Read up, and formulate your own decision.
As far as upcoming devices, as far as I know, a new Nexus7 is only rumored to be coming in 3 months or so. But just a rumor, and we don't know anything about the specs. People are also talking about a new iPad Mini. But I personally do not prefer the iOS closed ecosystem. Plus, Apple is pretty much on a yearly refresh cycle for its products. So we probably won't see a new Mini until close to Christmas. Again, we also don't know anything about it. So something unknown and not coming for over 6 months is not really a "competitor" to what you can buy now (or very soon, in your case).
In any case, I expect the next N7 and iPad Mini to continue to push the budget/mid or low range tablet market. Guessing that specs would be comparable to the Note 8. Maybe a tiny bit better in some specs as technologies progress, but nothing that will blow the Note 8 away or make it obsolete.
Its a great tablet. My opinion, the best tablet you can get in a 7-8" form factor at the present time. The rest is up to you.

redpoint73 said:
"Is it worth buying?". Nobody can answer that question for you. Everybody has different expectations, budgets, preferences. There are plenty of reviews and comments on these forums, and elsewhere online. Read up, and formulate your own decision.
As far as upcoming devices, as far as I know, a new Nexus7 is only rumored to be coming in 3 months or so. But just a rumor, and we don't know anything about the specs. People are also talking about a new iPad Mini. But I personally do not prefer the iOS closed ecosystem. Plus, Apple is pretty much on a yearly refresh cycle for its products. So we probably won't see a new Mini until close to Christmas. Again, we also don't know anything about it. So something unknown and not coming for over 6 months is not really a "competitor" to what you can buy now (or very soon, in your case).
In any case, I expect the next N7 and iPad Mini to continue to push the budget/mid or low range tablet market. Guessing that specs would be comparable to the Note 8. Maybe a tiny bit better in some specs as technologies progress, but nothing that will blow the Note 8 away or make it obsolete.
Its a great tablet. My opinion, the best tablet you can get in a 7-8" form factor at the present time. The rest is up to you.
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Thanks for the reply.
I have read the reviews. But I think it is over priced at Rs. 30900 ($ 570.64). Little confused now. If i pre order now ill get book cover free.

Best tablet I've used to date as well. I love it so far, although it's been one day.
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livetech2 said:
I have read the reviews. But I think it is over priced at Rs. 30900 ($ 570.64). Little confused now. If i pre order now ill get book cover free.
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Don't know how the price of these devices varies in your country versus US. But I imagine its at least proportional.
People keep commenting that the Note 9 is "over priced" or "expensive". I think that is crap. The only reason people say that is because of the release of low priced "budget" tablets like the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire, that are gimped for features. Decent devices, but they sacrifice features to get a low "entry" price for the masses. Yes the Nexus 7, for example, is $200 US cheaper than the Note 8. But the N7 lacks a rear facing camera, removable SD, pen support as well as having a older/slower CPU, less RAM, and a smaller screen.
A better point of comparison might be the iPad Mini, which is $70 cheaper than the Note 8. Not a huge difference. Yes, Apple has a talent for charging a premium for their devices. But again, the Note 8 has it beat for many features, including pen support, removable SD, and a lot more RAM (2 GB vs. 512 MB).
I paid a hefty premium of $499 for the HTC Flyer back in the summer of 2011. Didn't regret a penny. Similar in many ways philosophically to the Note 8, with pen support, great specs for its time, a full list of features, and an incredibly premium look and feel. Yes, the Flyer's price is a lot of what held it back. But I loved the thing. It now shows its age, and I've moved on to it for the Note 8. But I held onto it for a long time, simply because the other 7-8" form factor tablets were all in the "budget" range and simply didn't seem like much of an upgrade. Faster CPU and more RAM, but a lot less features.
The Note 8 is a premium device. Its thin, light and sexy (actually weighs less than the N7, despite having a significantly larger screen). Its jam packed with features and high specs (maybe not the type of specs that would blow you away, but still great) and meant to appeal to enthusiasts, not the budget conscious. And this is XDA. When the heck has this been a place for people who buy middle of the road devices at budget prices? This is a place for tech geeks, the type of people that the Note 8 was made for. Yet so many complaints about the Note 8 being "over priced".

redpoint73 said:
Don't know how the price of these devices varies in your country versus US. But I imagine its at least proportional.
People keep commenting that the Note 9 is "over priced" or "expensive". I think that is crap. The only reason people say that is because of the release of low priced "budget" tablets like the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire, that are gimped for features. Decent devices, but they sacrifice features to get a low "entry" price for the masses. Yes the Nexus 7, for example, is $200 US cheaper than the Note 8. But the N7 lacks a rear facing camera, removable SD, pen support as well as having a older/slower CPU, less RAM, and a smaller screen.
A better point of comparison might be the iPad Mini, which is $70 cheaper than the Note 8. Not a huge difference. Yes, Apple has a talent for charging a premium for their devices. But again, the Note 8 has it beat for many features, including pen support, removable SD, and a lot more RAM (2 GB vs. 512 MB).
I paid a hefty premium of $499 for the HTC Flyer back in the summer of 2011. Didn't regret a penny. Similar in many ways philosophically to the Note 8, with pen support, great specs for its time, a full list of features, and an incredibly premium look and feel. Yes, the Flyer's price is a lot of what held it back. But I loved the thing. It now shows its age, and I've moved on to it for the Note 8. But I held onto it for a long time, simply because the other 7-8" form factor tablets were all in the "budget" range and simply didn't seem like much of an upgrade. Faster CPU and more RAM, but a lot less features.
The Note 8 is a premium device. Its thin, light and sexy (actually weighs less than the N7, despite having a significantly larger screen). Its jam packed with features and high specs (maybe not the type of specs that would blow you away, but still great) and meant to appeal to enthusiasts, not the budget conscious. And this is XDA. When the heck has this been a place for people who buy middle of the road devices at budget prices? This is a place for tech geeks, the type of people that the Note 8 was made for. Yet so many complaints about the Note 8 being "over priced".
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thanks again for the reply.
can we play all the latest games on Note 8 with out any lag? Is it future proof for one more year?
Also if i get the 3g version will the battery drain much faster? battery is 4,600 mAh.\ on 3g version.

livetech2 said:
thanks again for the reply.
can we play all the latest games on Note 8 with out any lag? Is it future proof for one more year?
Also if i get the 3g version will the battery drain much faster? battery is 4,600 mAh.\ on 3g version.
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The Note 8.0 is a great device but you must keep it in mind, it is a premium product. The Main reason it costs more than the iPad Mini is that it has better specs but more importantly the Wacom Digitizer.
If you don't really have much need for the S-pen and don't need 3G, I believe a Nexus 7 would be a better choice for you.(Now that it is officially launched in India)It is pretty good in Gaming and Tegra 3 isn't fading away soon. It costs only half of the Note 8.0.
Heck I would have probably bought it, but no pen input+lack of TV-out turned it down.
If you don't use the 3G, (put it on airplane mode0, consumption would be same as Wi-Fi model
Also, don't give much importance to the fact that they are giving a free book cover. For one, it is a bit flimsy and won't last very long(from the reviews here at XDA).Search ebay.in, you can find cheaper and better covers.
Also when the Note 8.0 actually launched, it would be easily 1000-1500 Rs less than the Pre-Order Price(This is usually the case with most Pre-Orders)

agambhandari said:
The Note 8.0 is a great device but you must keep it in mind, it is a premium product. The Main reason it costs more than the iPad Mini is that it has better specs but more importantly the Wacom Digitizer.
If you don't really have much need for the S-pen and don't need 3G, I believe a Nexus 7 would be a better choice for you.(Now that it is officially launched in India)It is pretty good in Gaming and Tegra 3 isn't fading away soon. It costs only half of the Note 8.0.
Heck I would have probably bought it, but no pen input+lack of TV-out turned it down.
Also, don't give much importance to the fact that they are giving a free book cover. For one, it is a bit flimsy and won't last very long(from the reviews here at XDA).Search ebay.in, you can find cheaper and better covers.
Also when the Note 8.0 actually launched, it would be easily 1000-1500 Rs less than the Pre-Order Price(This is usually the case with most Pre-Orders)
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Ya i thought of buying N7 and Tab 2 7.But both are one year old. Also N7 doesn't have expandable memory. Tab 2 7 has weak specs for gaming. So planning to buy Note 8. My main usage is games, you tube, videos.
So should i w8 of go with the Pre order? Flipkart also has it for pre order same price with EMI options no free cover.
Are you planning to buy Note 8?

livetech2 said:
Ya i thought of buying N7 and Tab 2 7.But both are one year old. Also N7 doesn't have expandable memory. Tab 2 7 has weak specs for gaming. So planning to buy Note 8. My main usage is games, you tube, videos.
So should i w8 of go with the Pre order? Flipkart also has it for pre order same price with EMI options no free cover.
Are you planning to buy Note 8?
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Look at the 32 GB Version of the N7, I don't think you will be able to cross that Space limit, unless you fill up the Tab with Movies you watched once, and never intend to again. It is available for 19K at Play store now.
Tab2 is certainly anemic in terms of power, but the n7 can still hold its own. If you really ever need to get more storage, USB-OTG can be used.
If you don't require the S-pen , 12 K price difference is a lot for just expandable Memory.
BTW, you can also look at some lower tier brands (Like iBerry, it comes with same CPU/GPU as the Note 8.0.....10 inch....for 18K....3G)

livetech2 said:
can we play all the latest games on Note 8 with out any lag? Is it future proof for one more year?
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I'm not much of a tablet gamer. But comments on other threads seem to indicate that gaming performance is quite good.
"Is it future proof" is another question that is impossible to answer. If I just say "yes" will it make you happy? haha
It depends on how you use your tablet, how you like to spend your money, how critical performance is to you. "Is it future proof" is purely a matter of personal opinion and preference.
As I mentioned above, I don't see any tablets in this size range really exceeding the Note 8's specs by much (if at all) in the coming year. The trend for tablets in the 7-8" form factor seems to be mid-range specs on cheap tablets to get them into as many hands as possible. This is the first real premium tablet in this size range for some time. And I don't expect any of the major manufacturers to jump in with more premium quality tablets any time soon.
If you want to talk about how future-proof this device is, versus "cheaper" tablets that are presently available, the Note 8 blows them away. The Nexus 7, Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, and Kindle Fire HD are already all obsolete in comparison. So I find it a bit odd that you are talking about how expensive the Note 8 is one minute, then asking how future proof it is, the next minute.
livetech2 said:
Also if i get the 3g version will the battery drain much faster? battery is 4,600 mAh.\ on 3g version.
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Obviously, transmitting data over thousands of feet uses significantly more battery than transmitting 50 feet. How much faster, I have no idea. I only have the WiFi version.

livetech2 said:
Are you planning to buy Note 8?
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Yes absolutely, the minute I can get my hands-on it(quite literally).
But I am certainly not pre-ordering anything. The First week of May, I can probably check it out nicely at Croma and probably even buy it at a lower price, or at other local Mobile Shops.

[Q] Galaxy Note 8 - is it worth it?

Hello mates.Im still thinking of buying this tab,but why is his popularity so low? I mean not many roms,topics etc about it in forums.. Is there anything wrong with it? Havent seen the tab yet(only reviews),only saw and played with ipad mini,but I think this one is better.Would you advice me to buy it and why?
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Yes...go for it. I' ve replaced my Note 2. 7' Tab is small and 10' is too big for me. 8' Note is not mass market product, but just in between Note 2 and Note 10 solution with perfect performance and everyday use/ carry around. I use it as well as my primary phone, navigation, multimedia and personal computer.

The "problem" you see here relates more to the very niche market for a device like this in its price range when compared next to something like the Nexus 7 and even Samsung's other 7 inch tablet. So on price alone, its going to struggle a little when you have so many quality options for half the price in many cases. For example, the iPad mini is $100 less, you could buy 2 Nexus 7 16GBs, or hell, I've seen referb Nook Colors going for $60 so you could almost buy 7 of the damn things. What they all lack, however, and what sets this apart for those that need the feature is the Wacom digitizer. Yes, that little pen is the source of the fuss. If you're the sort of person who values hand written notes or loves to doodle in a way that no other tablet in this form factor is capable of (even with a third party stylus), then thats all the reason you need to pick up the Note 8. Other reasons would include the super thin body or large screen size (or you have some creepy love of IR blasters), but the pen is the point here.
This all means, sadly, that we won't ever enjoy the flood of rom options other devices enjoy. Sure, there will be some in time, but I'm not holding out for a solid, feature filled port of Paranoid Android. Instead, I'm doing with the majority of Android users are and just making due with what I have and honestly, the things I love outnumber the things I hate about TouchWiz.
At this point, I can't see myself ever going back to a "normal" tablet again (which will really suck if they don't make another one lol).

It's awesome. Don't hesitate.
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I helped organize a Nexus 7 32gb 3G for my mother, and was suitably impressed with it.
I also own a HTC Sensation... which I was also suitably impressed with 2 years ago when I bought it.
I also have to my name an i5 Desktop + Wacom Cintiq 12wx.
So, yes, you guessed it... I like digital art / image manipulation. I also enjoy keeping journals and 'writing' stories... yes, WRITING, not 'typing'... when I sit infront of a keyboard and see the words spill from my fingertips in clinical neat text, it kinda kills the creative process for me...
So you can understand that the note 8.0 *BLEW ME AWAY*
It's as if someone out there decided to design a device *just for me*. It's the perfect size, perfect weight, so comfortable to hold, handwriting recognition is superb, and the sensitivity of the S Pen is second only to the Cintiq experience...
All i need is a means to fine tune the sensitivity of the S Pen for my drawing style and I believe I would actually prefer the Note 8.0 over the Desktop+Cintiq as a drawing medium.. I've only had the tablet for a few days, so I may still be able to figure out how to do this. If, however, the calibration must stay as it is... it is still an excellent drawing experience and, as I said, second only to using a full-blown Cintiq.
Like others here I'll never be buying a tablet again that doesn't at least match the features and convenience of the Note 8.0.
I'm very excited to see what they do with the Note 8.0 v2 + v3... and if for some odd reason, this is the first and last in the series... I'll be keeping this tablet... and keeping my eyes open for developments in the Surface Pro line (it's still too bulky/heavy to be a concideration for me at this point in time).
Bottom line:
Are you an artist / designer and do you prefer handwriting over typing?
If yes, then I can see no better option for you in this form factor. The price is well justified.
If no, then although it is a superb tablet that trumps the Nexus 7 in every way... the price will be hard to justify. If you're not going to put the Wacom Digitizer to work for you, then only buy this tablet if you have money to burn.

FaeMinx said:
All i need is a means to fine tune the sensitivity of the S Pen for my drawing style and I believe I would actually prefer the Note 8.0 over the Desktop+Cintiq as a drawing medium.. I've only had the tablet for a few days, so I may still be able to figure out how to do this. If, however, the calibration must stay as it is... it is still an excellent drawing experience and, as I said, second only to using a full-blown Cintiq.
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See this page...
http://phandroid.com/2012/12/05/how-to-adjust-s-pen/

Thank you for all your help friends . I currently own a Nexus 7 ,but I dont have 3g and thats killing me. Personally I was viewing Ipad mini and Note 8 . In fact in my country and my calculations for the 3G version price is likely the same.The only thing I love in Ipad mini is the app store (many many apps) and the accesoaries for the Ipad (docks and etc) If we remove this the Note 8 has everything.
I`ll think a little more and maybe decide the Note 8.It will cost me like 450~500$ with a contract for 7$ per month for one year and Im getting 3000MB high speed 3G.
Here the Apple Ipad Mini costs like 500~550$ ,but without any contracts .

linkenhtc said:
Thank you for all your help friends . I currently own a Nexus 7 ,but I dont have 3g and thats killing me. Personally I was viewing Ipad mini and Note 8 . In fact in my country and my calculations for the 3G version price is likely the same.The only thing I love in Ipad mini is the app store (many many apps) and the accesoaries for the Ipad (docks and etc) If we remove this the Note 8 has everything.
I`ll think a little more and maybe decide the Note 8.It will cost me like 450~500$ with a contract for 7$ per month for one year and Im getting 3000MB high speed 3G.
Here the Apple Ipad Mini costs like 500~550$ ,but without any contracts .
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As others have said. The price of the Note is almost purely based on the Spen / digitizer technology with in it. To decide if it is worth it, you need to decide if the added functionality that technology brings is of benefit to you.
If you dont draw, or dont think you will be taking hand writen notes, then there may be little benefit of this tablet over a cheaper android alternative. My advice is, if you want to use the Spen, then the Note 8.0 is the perfect companion, if you dont, wait for the new NEXUS to be announced and either buy the older 7 at a discount or wait for the newer one (or do the same with the ipad mini. cant be too long before a newer version is announced).

hertsjoatmon said:
See this page...
http://phandroid.com/2012/12/05/how-to-adjust-s-pen/
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Thanks for the link! After reading that... I'm a little nervous about possibly screwing up the sensitivity that I have - after all, there's nothing *wrong* with my pen, it's not wonky at all... I just would love to be able to map out the pressure gradient curve like I can do via software for each of my Cintiq pens (I have them all - Airbrush, 6D Artpen, Grip Pen and Classic)... So I'm going to continue looking for a software solution. But if one doesn't turn up, I'll probably buy an extra S Pen to fiddle with mechanically.
Thanks again.
linkenhtc said:
Thank you for all your help friends . I currently own a Nexus 7 ,but I dont have 3g and thats killing me. Personally I was viewing Ipad mini and Note 8 . In fact in my country and my calculations for the 3G version price is likely the same.The only thing I love in Ipad mini is the app store (many many apps) and the accesoaries for the Ipad (docks and etc) If we remove this the Note 8 has everything.
I`ll think a little more and maybe decide the Note 8.It will cost me like 450~500$ with a contract for 7$ per month for one year and Im getting 3000MB high speed 3G.
Here the Apple Ipad Mini costs like 500~550$ ,but without any contracts .
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Do you own any other Apple products? Have you already made significant purchases in the Apple app store you want to use on your tablet?
If not, and it's just a case of which is the better tablet... Go for the Note 8.0.
In my opinion, the iPad Mini and GNote 8.0 are not even in the same class of device.
iPad Mini is appropriate for the mass-market consumer who is primarily concerned with consuming content. It's easy to use, especially for people who are not all that technologically skilled.
GNote 8.0 is aimed at power users, creative professionals, and discerning creative hobbyists who are primarily concerned with *creating* content... but who also want a top class media consumption device as well.
If you have any interest in creating content, then it's a no-brainer.
But like I said, if you aren't really going to use the Wacom Digitizer all that much... then the iPad mini could be the right device for you... even though it makes me cringe recommending an Apple product to anybody.

Ill go for the Note.Ill go and order one.Thank you all
And about thias 25$ gift card - it doesnt depend from what country you are ,right?
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linkenhtc said:
Ill go for the Note.Ill go and order one.Thank you all
And about thias 25$ gift card - it doesnt depend from what country you are ,right?
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You need to check with whoever you are buying from. As far as I was aware, the gift card was only available to US residents.
As I live in South Africa, I got other extras... such as a free Official Stand Pouch, a 16gb MicroSD card, 2 year warranty, and two months free internet with MWeb (which i'm not using as I'm with another service provider - I bought mine outright, i.e. not on contract).

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The "problem" you see here relates more to the very niche market for a device like this in its price range when compared next to something like the Nexus 7 and even Samsung's other 7 inch tablet.
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Bingo. The Android tablet market is dominated by low priced, low spec devices (at least in the 7 to 8 inch form factor). And this has worked to get Android tablets into people's hands and steal market share from the iPad. The N8 is targeted towards users who actually value a premium device, and are willing to pay a bit more. Unfortunately, we are in the minority.
Yes, the N8 is not going to sell in huge numbers, and that means less developer interest. But all that is needed is a few good developers. We already have some good looking contributions, and this will continue to grow. My previous tablet was the HTC Flyer, which arguably had a worse market penetration problem than the N8 has. The Flyer was more expensive ($499 US at release), and the tablet market was much less mature at the time (much less people interested in buying tablets). The Flyer sold in very low numbers. But even so, it had a fair number of very good developers, and a decent number of ROMs. More than sufficient, IMHO. In the end, you don't need dozens of ROMs. Just a decent selection of good ones.
I don't see the trend towards cheap Android tablets changing anytime soon. The Note 8 is easily the best Android tablet around in the "smaller" (7 to 8 inch) form factor, and I'm willing to bet that will remain the case for some time.

That is just it. This tablet is NOT just about the pen. It is a really fast tablet too. Much faster then the Nexus 7 or just about any other tablet out right now. It is smooooth. The screen is the perfect size too. I had a Nexus 7 and returned it because I couldn't stand how slow it was. I have a note 2 and it is nice to actually have a screen large enough that the multi window feature may actually get some use too.

As a consumer, I love my Note 8 (speedy, responsive, relatively okay battery life, etc everything else ppl said)
As an Android/Linux dev, I lament the fact that because this thing costs so much, it is just statistically less likely to get huge momentum behind it.

I don't know, from a practical point of view this tablet is a better buy than an ipad mini. It does cost a little more than an entry level mini but does the mini have expandable storage, usb otg support, multi windows and a pressure sensitive stylus. If I were Joe Public I'd certainly consider getting one as it offers quite a bit more value for just a little extra investment.
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I sold my Note 2 ans Ipad Mini 64GB and replaced them with a Note 8.0 w/ 64GB SDCard and am much happier now.
As for the $25.00 Play Store credit , That is for the WiFi model only checks serial # ( US Only ? ) . 3G versions do not qualify.

Why the negative price comments by most reviewers?

From the Dozens and dozens of reviews I have read in journals and seen on Youtube etc, the one big negative they all comment on is the price of the Note 7?
I would hate to be a car salesman and try selling these people a car. If we want a flagship uber mobile and the Galaxy Note 7 is certainly that, then it will of course come with a price to match.
If you visit a Rolls Royce showroom and ask the price the salesperson will lose all interest in you as its an industry given that if you need to ask the price you can't afford one.
The Note 7 is expensive just the same as all top notch flag ship cars, pens watches, in fact any consumer goods you care to mention! I have read one review where said 'professional' mentioned the mobile could be priced at 500€ rather than 850€ No reason given? The profit margin on the Note 7 is nothing even close to the Apple brand yet every year people queue to purchase their new iPhones irrespective of specification and other user factors. I find this bizarre.
You like Aston martin, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, RR, Maybach, or Bugatti then pay. Don't want to pay then visit your local Ford, VW, Skoda or Seat showroom.
Bang for buck the Note 7 is on par.
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Because Samsung isn't a Rolls Royce., but a Hyundai. The phone has an 100 euro markup on previous Notes, but doesn't add 100 euro worth of stuff. People don't want to pay for stuff they don't want (edged screen; fragile, slippery glass everywhere; smaller battery than S7E; no CPU/RAM upgrades) and not getting what they do want (IR, removable battery, latest in CPU; ~6" flat screen). Other brands have passed them left, right and center and the only distinguishing feature is the S-pen. But is that worth more than double the price of a O+3?
As a Note 3 owner, I was really looking forward to this phone. It started out good (Exynos 8893, 6 GB RAM, 5,8" screen, 4.000 mAh battery) but as time passed, all specs changed for the worse untill we now have the S7E Stylus Edition with IrisScanner. While you get buy incentives all over the world and even for older models, no such thing in the Netherlands.. We didn't even got the Note 5 here, so the Note 4 was the last true Note. Only when the Note 7 was introduced, almost every store suddenly sold out their Note 4's.

Ryland Johnson said:
From the Dozens and dozens of reviews I have read in journals and seen on Youtube etc, the one big negative they all comment on is the price of the Note 7?
If you visit a Rolls Royce showroom and ask the price the salesperson will lose all interest in you as its an industry given that if you need to ask the price you can't afford one.
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Wrong!!! salespeople will have lost interest in such a person, because he/she probably is not stupid, has a brain, and wants to spend money wisely.
they are looking for silly people that do not know how to use the calculator, and fall into brand "promises". By the way, the job of the salesperson is to sell. If he/she looses interest in you, they should be fired, as they are not doing their job.
the Note 7 is terribly overpriced.
850 EUR for a phone with programmed obsolesce (non-removable glued battery, when in many samsung phones it lasts 1 year and then degrades and causes reboots/shutdowns, see threads in Note 4 forum), curved screen that we do not want; mediocre specs (just 4GB ram and 6 months old chipset).
Add to that the display that scratches easily (in a 850 EUR device),
and you will soon realize that you have thrown 850 EUR away.
there are some great devices that have similar or better specs, and price half of the cost:
ZTE Axon 7 450 EUR
OP3 400 EUR.
if you ask for the price, that does not mean you cannot afford something.
that may mean you are not accustomed to throw money away.

Señor Sjon said:
Because Samsung isn't a Rolls Royce., but a Hyundai. The phone has an 100 euro markup on previous Notes, but doesn't add 100 euro worth of stuff. People don't want to pay for stuff they don't want (edged screen; fragile, slippery glass everywhere; smaller battery than S7E; no CPU/RAM upgrades) and not getting what they do want (IR, removable battery, latest in CPU; ~6" flat screen). Other brands have passed them left, right and center and the only distinguishing feature is the S-pen. But is that worth more than double the price of a O+3?
As a Note 3 owner, I was really looking forward to this phone. It started out good (Exynos 8893, 6 GB RAM, 5,8" screen, 4.000 mAh battery) but as time passed, all specs changed for the worse untill we now have the S7E Stylus Edition with IrisScanner. While you get buy incentives all over the world and even for older models, no such thing in the Netherlands.. We didn't even got the Note 5 here, so the Note 4 was the last true Note. Only when the Note 7 was introduced, almost every store suddenly sold out their Note 4's.
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I agree with you. Not only, why does samsung sell just an "enhanced" S7 "note version" close to the end of the year? It will be an obsolete one in a few months...
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there are some great devices that have similar or better specs, and price half of the cost:
ZTE Axon 7 450 EUR
OP3 400 EUR.
if you ask for the price, that does not mean you cannot afford something.
that may mean you are not accustomed to throw money away.
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Add the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe if it ever arrives on the market and the Nexus Marlin is rumoured at $599 (€600 I presume).
With Android Nougat, every phone will be able to use split screen, another Samsung-Only feature generally available.

steno_c said:
I agree with you. Not only, why does samsung sell just an "enhanced" S7 "note version" close to the end of the year? It will be an obsolete one in a few months...
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Thanks for the reply. May I pose this to you? The Samsung Galaxy S range is a combination of three mobiles. The S7, S7 edge and Note7. The Note has NOT been introduced to replace the other S7 models but to complement them by the addition of the S-pen with larger 64GB of internal memory.
The Note 7 is not intended to appeal to all mobile phone users, its general roll is a business persons mobile.
Ryland

Skipped note 5 (couldn't get it anyway). Have used a Note 4 for almost two years now. Have it modded to near perfection and it works away without any trouble.
Saw the Note 7 and that what it. Ordered and will get it early Sept.
That's how it works. As for the nay sayers: get a device you like and don't waste your energy on the negative.

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Because Samsung isn't a Rolls Royce., but a Hyundai. The phone has an 100 euro markup on previous Notes, but doesn't add 100 euro worth of stuff. People don't want to pay for stuff they don't want (edged screen; fragile, slippery glass everywhere; smaller battery than S7E; no CPU/RAM upgrades) and not getting what they do want (IR, removable battery, latest in CPU; ~6" flat screen). Other brands have passed them left, right and center and the only distinguishing feature is the S-pen. But is that worth more than double the price of a O+3?
As a Note 3 owner, I was really looking forward to this phone. It started out good (Exynos 8893, 6 GB RAM, 5,8" screen, 4.000 mAh battery) but as time passed, all specs changed for the worse untill we now have the S7E Stylus Edition with IrisScanner. While you get buy incentives all over the world and even for older models, no such thing in the Netherlands.. We didn't even got the Note 5 here, so the Note 4 was the last true Note. Only when the Note 7 was introduced, almost every store suddenly sold out their Note 4's.
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Hi, Thanks for the reply. Hyundai? Can you name an electronic device that is either not entirely made of or has parts made in Asia including Apple? If the Note 7 where manufactured in Europe or the USA we could double or triple the price.
No where did Samsung release the data you have quoted in your reply. Such crystal ball gazing has become the forte of such online mags as "Trusted reviews" that are anything but to be trusted.
Please read my above reply to our peer as I explained there the Note 7 is an addition to an existing range of Galaxy S 7's namely the S7, S7 Edge and now the Note 7. All made in Asia as are all mobile phones at present.
Ryland

Señor Sjon said:
Because Samsung isn't a Rolls Royce., but a Hyundai. The phone has an 100 euro markup on previous Notes, but doesn't add 100 euro worth of stuff. People don't want to pay for stuff they don't want (edged screen; fragile, slippery glass everywhere; smaller battery than S7E; no CPU/RAM upgrades) and not getting what they do want (IR, removable battery, latest in CPU; ~6" flat screen). Other brands have passed them left, right and center and the only distinguishing feature is the S-pen. But is that worth more than double the price of a O+3?
As a Note 3 owner, I was really looking forward to this phone. It started out good (Exynos 8893, 6 GB RAM, 5,8" screen, 4.000 mAh battery) but as time passed, all specs changed for the worse untill we now have the S7E Stylus Edition with IrisScanner. While you get buy incentives all over the world and even for older models, no such thing in the Netherlands.. We didn't even got the Note 5 here, so the Note 4 was the last true Note. Only when the Note 7 was introduced, almost every store suddenly sold out their Note 4's.
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If all you said is true, the Note 7 won't sell the millions of phones it is expected to. IN fact, pre-release sales appear to have surpassed Samsungs original estimates and caused some delays in getting product for some areas. Apparently people do want smaller batteries, slippery glass, edged screen, non removable battery, and so on.
All kidding aside, stuff costs money. Price is determined by cost of development, materials, demand and what the market will bear. If in fact the cost is found to be too high, you will see it come down - if it is more than you want to spend and you don't like the features it does offer, simple answer is just don't buy it.

Skipped note 5, no microsd support, no changeable battery.
I use a rooted and modded note 3. It works fine. And spen is a must. Sure a business mobile.
But more ram, for me should be very useful. More widget, more long notes, more screens opened, more multitasking...
And to connect directly to an external hard disk at the moment, just a dream.
Once note series was the real samsung flagship, obviously in my modest opinion.
You purchased a note to get an hardware which would be inherited by the next S series... So an hardware lasting for 6/8 months...up to date... And you paid it a lot.
Now you're right, note is just a complement...same s series hardware...it follows the s series, but it keeps spen...
So I think it should have the same s series price...it comes a few months later with its same harware...
I am not wasting my energy on the negative, talking here, and appreciate your polite talking too, I just try understanding how not to waste my money...
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If all you said is true, the Note 7 won't sell the millions of phones it is expected to. IN fact, pre-release sales appear to have surpassed Samsungs original estimates and caused some delays in getting product for some areas. Apparently people do want smaller batteries, slippery glass, edged screen, non removable battery, and so on.
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or, maybe it's a traditional PR gimmick for overpriced products,
to make you believe that the device is successful, when it may be the complete opposite.

My old Note 2 cost me ~$600 which was a suitable price. $600-$700 is reasonable for a flagship. Samsung priced the Note 7 at $850 to test the market. If the market bites, next year it will be $900. If people don't buy they'll lower the price. Also by selling at a a high price you automatically imply the product is extremely high end and premium, further increasing exclusivity and demand. Owning a Note 7 is supposed to be a statement of wealth because everyone will know you paid a big amount for it. Samsung is trying to replicate Apple's business model. Owning an Apple product is a statement of wealth, at least if you are a consumerist. Those of us who aren't consumerists will see through the marketing and buy whatever makes sense from a cost / performance standpoint. As far as the Note 7 goes you will see diminishing returns at around $600 since the remaining $250 is a luxury premium. The added features of a Note 7 as compared to a OnePlus 3 are worth maybe $200 to $300 tops, but not $450.

I agree, just a PR gimmick...
Samsung sold so many S7 that with scraps is making many note 7...
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steno_c said:
Skipped note 5, no microsd support, no changeable battery.
I use a rooted and modded note 3. It works fine. And spen is a must. Sure a business mobile.
But more ram, for me should be very useful. More widget, more long notes, more screens opened, more multitasking...
And to connect directly to an external hard disk at the moment, just a dream.
Once note series was the real samsung flagship, obviously in my modest opinion.
You purchased a note to get an hardware which would be inherited by the next S series... So an hardware lasting for 6/8 months...up to date... And you paid it a lot.
Now you're right, note is just a complement...same s series hardware...it follows the s series, but it keeps spen...
So I think it should have the same s series price...it comes a few months later with its same harware...
I am not wasting my energy on the negative, talking here, and appreciate your polite talking too, I just try understanding how not to waste my money...
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Thanks for your reply. Civility is an education and thanks for being civil. :good:
With respect, to write the Note 7 is the same mobile as the S7 is an error. WE both know the specs of both mobiles so I wont bore you with them. The S-pen alone has undergone major hardware and software development its now virtually at the very least a mouse. You do also realise that in this country the S7edge with 64GB is MORE expensive than the Note 7!
I am NOT suggesting the Note 7 is cheap. Its very expensive but the cost is relative to the product.
Again the Note 7 was not designed to be a replacement for the S7 edge but an addition to the S7 range.
Nice to debate with you.
Ryland

Ryland Johnson said:
Thanks for your reply. Civility is an education and thanks for being civil. :good:
With respect, to write the Note 7 is the same mobile as the S7 is an error. WE both know the specs of both mobiles so I wont bore you with them. The S-pen alone has undergone major hardware and software development its now virtually at the very least a mouse. You do also realise that in this country the S7edge with 64GB is MORE expensive than the Note 7!
I am NOT suggesting the Note 7 is cheap. Its very expensive but the cost is relative to the product.
Again the Note 7 was not designed to be a replacement for the S7 edge but an addition to the S7 range.
Nice to debate with you.
Ryland
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I agree with you, is an addition to s series...
Once it was an apart serie....
I mean a note smartphone was presented at the end of year, but still in the next half of the year was the smartphone that had to be beaten...
Now the S serie took its place...but at the beginning of the year...
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lisbon2004 said:
or, maybe it's a traditional PR gimmick for overpriced products,
to make you believe that the device is successful, when it may be the complete opposite.
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Hi, We are now in the realms of pure fantasy. This is the MO of 'Trusted reviews'. The Note 7 has been delayed for release in several countries due to over demand. Only time will tell if the unit is a success or otherwise. To date its hell even trying to get one.
Ryland

Just to let you know, here in Italy the main internet and data services providers do not even know what a note 7 is... No offer...
just the main chain of stores selling are proposing something...
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lisbon2004 said:
or, maybe it's a traditional PR gimmick for overpriced products,
to make you believe that the device is successful, when it may be the complete opposite.
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right. And LBJ killed Kennedy - Marilyn Monroe was killed by the CIA and the Government is hiding the existance of Aliens to avoid mass riots.

Ryland Johnson said:
The Note 7 has been delayed for release in several countries due to over demand.
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Samsung PR tells you it is "due to over demand", and you believe it.
i wouldn't, as you can't really verify it.
as i read from the forums, the 2nd biggest operator here has been given only 1000 Note 7s for the whole country. This is nothing.
The strategy is the following:
1) you dedicate miserable quantity of the product for pre-sale;
2) it gets reserved quickly (as the amount is MISERABLY LOW);
3) you declare "all pre-sale done!!! huge success!! over demand!!!"
4) naive people, and those that do not question PR gimmicks, believe it, and rush to buy...
i repeat, Note 7, grossly overpriced at 850 EUR, with unwanted curved screen, non-removable battery, mediocre RAM amount, and with the screen that scratches easily, is NOT going to sell like hot cakes, NOT AT ALL.

The majority of reviews I've read (and I've read a lot) have been overwhelmingly positive. Forbes was tough on the Note7 but Forbes' opinion on technology isn't incredibly valid. AnandTech's biggest issue was lack of symmetry because the cutouts for the cameras and ports weren't aligned with each other. If that's all a tough grading uber-technical site like AnandTech can fault then the Note7 must be pretty good.

Is it still a good choice?

hi guys,
Let's consider that in 1 or 2 months everything will be back to normal and Note 7 will be back in stores and no one will be harmed again and the buzz is gone.
I don't imagine that Samsung will change the screen Gorilla Glass 5 to something less fragile in addition to the battery, so this will still be a weakness for this phone, because to MHO this seems to be its only real flaw (except the battery), Android Nougat will certainly arrive in few months from now too.
so my questions are these ones:
- Will it still be the best phone of the year?
- Won't we have more difficulties to sell it back within 1-2 years from now without loosing too much?
- Is it still worth buying it?
Also,
If it's still one of the best phones of the year, is it worth waiting Christmas period for hoping having promotions and discounts or Samsung has already lost enough with it and will not provide any more discount on this model and will focus his promotions on his other flagships S7 & coming new ones?

It's the best Android device available right now. If re-sale value and GG5 bother you then yes, it's worth considering those points further. Spec wise, no, it's not matched in the Android space.
I would imagine (I could be wrong) that Samsung will be desperate to put the Note 7 behind them and release the S8 ASAP to do a massive ad campaign and regain some lost sales.
Yes the Note 7 price will drop, yes resale value will be affected by that drop. You will have a fantastic device and if keeping for even 12 months in my opinion it's worth while.

Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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All know that Note7 is epic and I rly doubt it will lose value unless sammy rly drop it's price when S8 will come. Best phone? To iPPL it will never be the best phone, looking at android world the price is not so great but if you put it aside it's sure the best phone of this year... Anyway I don't care. I will get mine and be happy if S8E will be cool I might try selling the N7 and move on. Usually my phone last me 2-3 years and which point I wan't to get a new one.

ilordvader said:
Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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I see you posting this in numerous posts. What is it of?

Man, come on, what other device would offer all the fantastic characteristics of the note 7?
one plus 3? it is cheap looking an wayy larger
lg v20? same , but even larger, not to mention the horrible sec display
iphone 7? same looking 2015 device larger and slave-bound
so, what do you feel like to choose?

winol said:
Man, come on, what other device would offer all the fantastic characteristics of the note 7?
one plus 3? it is cheap looking an wayy larger
lg v20? same , but even larger, not to mention the horrible sec display
iphone 7? same looking 2015 device larger and slave-bound
so, what do you feel like to choose?
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True. Samsung may have screwed the model reputation, but there is nothing like it currently. Maybe the Pixel phones will change that, but still, they'll be ugly and only geeks (us included) will go for it, so the note 7 will maintain a moderate resell value for those looking for phones in 2nd hand.

I don't play any games on my phone, I use it for business (we do sales via a company app with clients so it's a must), tasks, reading, podcasts and of course messaging. For what I need it's just perfect, I remember worrying what I'd do without root since I had my S3 rooted and that was 4 years of acclimation, now I don't even remember the idea of rooting until I see it mentioned on some forum or article (I know, blasphemy around here, sorry ).
I also (possibly more blasphemy) *like* Touchwiz on it! I had Good Lock on my original N7 until sending it back other day, and it was a nice throwback to the rooted stock Android look I was used to on my S3, but I actually wanted the Touchwiz back! Got replacement N7 and am not even considering Good Lock, it's sexy and I'm happy with it.

What can I replace my Note 8 with?

Mine has died. Repairing it will cost the same as buying a new tablet pretty much.
What is the closest replacement to this great piece of equipment?

Check your local craigslist. Search settings:
Search for: Galaxy Note
Has Image ticked
Owner instead of all or dealer.
There are note 3's available in my area that aren't from a dealer from $100-150 undamaged. What is your price range btw?

Samsung did make a Galaxy Tab A 8 inch with S-pen but it would have to be imported to US as it wasn't for sale here, and it's about $275 on eBay from China and entry level specs, but I would buy one if they were in USA. If interested search sm-p355 on eBay or just p355. I had the Galaxy Tab A 9.7 S-pen version, but the low resolution was too hard to overcome, and 9.7 tablets are just bulky plain and simple.
Honestly I would just buy another Note 8 off eBay, but make sure it's a wifi only model not the ATT or T-mobile model as it a locked bootloader and the s-pen is several millimeters off in 4.4.2 and you'd be stuck. There's honestly not a good replacement in the 8 inch size at the moment. You can get a used one in good condition usually for $100.

Another of the same. Nothing like it or the market. See below...
Ratuken.Com has reconditioned Note 8.0's w/ Sim card slots (AT&T) for under $150. Typing on mine right now. Just replaced my original (cracked screen after 3 years of use). Love it! SIM not required, but now I have data on demand when out of WiFi range.
Search gosale'dot'com.

Check out the Galaxy Tab S2.

Personally I would never buy another Samsung tablet or phone again. Samsung's unwillingness to provide proper source and specs, and especially the specs of their proprietary Exynos CPU, along with not updating the OS for older devices, makes them a non-starter. Even as Nougat is rolling out we still don't have a stable Marshmallow release of CM13 for the Note 8 (and will never have either MM or N from Sammy). Personally I am unwilling to spend $400 every 2 or 3 years to have a current OS with current security updates.
If you have money to burn then consider the Google Pixel C. It is a premium tablet (at a premium price) with Marshmallow and a reasonable expectation of future OS support. If you are cheap like me then look at the Nvidia Shield K1 for "only" $200. It is quite powerful (the GPU is huge for games, etc), has a good display, and stereo front-facing speakers.
Greg

Milkman, if you're wanting a tablet with active stylus in the same size I can't see any other option as an "upgrade". If you're just wanting a tablet then there's a ton of options that are better. The tab S2 8 inch is awesome if you're wanting to stick with Android and don't need the active stylus, or if you want to change to Apple iPad mini 4 is excellent, and offers very good performance over the S2 tablet. But all this said if you still need an active stylus get another Note 8.0, BUT make sure it's not on 4.4.2 because the S-pen is several millimeters off and can't be fixed without drastic software changes, and the ATT model has a locked bootloader so avoid that one.