Saw the N7 for the first time in a CPW shop recently and I was surprised by how fragile it seems, the sort of thing you might keep in a little pouch for safekeeping. I've used a N4 for two years now. Take it everywhere with me, using Osmand GPS maps, the camera and pen most of all. Have it in an ordinary Labato fold-stand. By comparison, the N7 looks more like a pretty toy. Can't imagine it roughing it on land or sea.
I'm not against the N7. I ordered one mid-Aug but cancelled when delivery of non-Sim version was held back till end Sept. The bursting battery saga means I probably wouldn't get one until mid/late Oct. I know now that there are some dev restrictions that might not be overcome; I believe it is still impossible for apps to write to Sd cards with Marshmallow. The fact that the battery is locked away doesn't help either: pulling the batt is the best way out of a soft brick.
It's frustrating. Had looked forward to the N7 as a real practical advance on the N4, but I feel now that it was a vanity project that went badly wrong for Sammy. What's the point of a glass back, for goodness sake? Let's hope they have better sense when it comes to designing the N8.
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Had looked forward to the N7 as a real practical advance on the N4, but I feel now that it was a vanity project that went badly wrong for Sammy. What's the point of a glass back, for goodness sake? Let's hope they have better sense when it comes to designing the N8.
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The glass back is hardly new to the Note 7. It's also on the S6, S6 Edge, S6 Edge+, Note 5, S7, and S7 Edge.
Well, what drove them to this is all the complaints of Plastic. Plastiky feel...yucky plastic...etc...etc...
I drove off with my note 7 on the back of my truck. Later found it face down on asphalt. Has one tiny scratch on the screen. I'm running a ringke slim case with no screen protector. I do have some Samsung screen protectors for when tje new phones come out.
To answer the question in the title "Has Note 7 lost some of its glam?": No.
If anything it has become more desirable in my eyes since the iPhone 7 is such a lack luster update. Best looking smartphone available by a large margin.
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Saw the N7 for the first time in a CPW shop recently and I was surprised by how fragile it seems, the sort of thing you might keep in a little pouch for safekeeping. I've used a N4 for two years now. Take it everywhere with me, using Osmand GPS maps, the camera and pen most of all. Have it in an ordinary Labato fold-stand. By comparison, the N7 looks more like a pretty toy. Can't imagine it roughing it on land or sea.
I'm not against the N7. I ordered one mid-Aug but cancelled when delivery of non-Sim version was held back till end Sept. The bursting battery saga means I probably wouldn't get one until mid/late Oct. I know now that there are some dev restrictions that might not be overcome; I believe it is still impossible for apps to write to Sd cards with Marshmallow. The fact that the battery is locked away doesn't help either: pulling the batt is the best way out of a soft brick.
It's frustrating. Had looked forward to the N7 as a real practical advance on the N4, but I feel now that it was a vanity project that went badly wrong for Sammy. What's the point of a glass back, for goodness sake? Let's hope they have better sense when it comes to designing the N8.
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Ironically you sound like my brother from another mother. I had pre-ordered the Note 7 from CPW only to cancel and am waiting on the new stock. Current owner of a 2 year young Note 4.
Walked into CPW and picked up a display model of the Note 7 for the 1st time yesterday. She's a beaut! No scratches although there were some on the S7. (Off topic, but wasn't even aware of the S6 Edge Plus, a bigger phone!)
What really has me suspicious is this locked in battery. OK, the phone is waterproof,but the safest way in emergencies such as soft brick (bootloop, recovery hard freeze) is the ability to pull the battery out.
I am still eagerly awaiting the Note 7, but some of the rumors for next year's phones are mind blowing! S8 with bendable screen, 4k, etc, etc. And not being an iPhone user ever, but theirs is the 10th anniversary edition all glass casing. Maybe it is wise to be patient here...
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If anything it has become more desirable in my eyes since the iPhone 7 is such a lack luster update. Best looking smartphone available by a large margin.
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Wait for next year's 10th anniversary of iPhone, apparently this is when we will really see them let loose on the hype. And no I am not an iPhone fanatic, been a Samsung Galaxy owner for the past 6 years, but wait and see…
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Ironically you sound like my brother from another mother. I had pre-ordered the Note 7 from CPW only to cancel and am waiting on the new stock. Current owner of a 2 year young Note 4.
Walked into CPW and picked up a display model of the Note 7 for the 1st time yesterday. She's a beaut! No scratches although there were some on the S7. (Off topic, but wasn't even aware of the S6 Edge Plus, a bigger phone!)
What really has me suspicious is this locked in battery. OK, the phone is waterproof,but the safest way in emergencies such as soft brick (bootloop, recovery hard freeze) is the ability to pull the battery out.
I am still eagerly awaiting the Note 7, but some of the rumors for next year's phones are mind blowing! S8 with bendable screen, 4k, etc, etc. And not being an iPhone user ever, but theirs is the 10th anniversary edition all glass casing. Maybe it is wise to be patient here...
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Wait for next year's 10th anniversary of iPhone, apparently this is when we will really see them let loose on the hype. And no I am not an iPhone fanatic, been a Samsung Galaxy owner for the past 6 years, but wait and see…
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Pfft you must be an amateur, everyone knows the real iPhone to watch is the 15th anniversary model.
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Pfft you must be an amateur, everyone knows the real iPhone to watch is the 15th anniversary model.
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Nah. 50th Gold plated Swavorski encrusted Crystal version. I do hope I live to see it!
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Nah. 50th Gold plated Swavorski encrusted Crystal version. I do hope I live to see it!
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Steve Jobs would never have allowed that.
That's the problem with these iconic CEO 's passing away. Their new replacements have a name to make for themselves and with their ego there's no holding back.
By the way, as a Graphic Designer, I grew up on Apple Mac, but no see through the glitz and glamour. I'd rather run an affordable machine on Linux that fork out (bi-)yearly for something that's constantly purposely holding back on features that are used to sell the next year's upgrade model.
Personally, I find the SGN7 more appealing than ever. I look forward to be able to buy the phone as soon as it arrives to Colombia. I managed to buy an international version in the US that I returned unopened and got a full refund.
I placed a Pre-order with Samsung Colombia in late August, but a week ago they called me saying that my order was cancelled. They said that they were going to ship my gift (gear fit 2) at no cost to me and it would arrive by September 19th. At least I got a free watch. Well actually we got two because I had ordered a phone for my wife too.
It's heartbreaking what is happening to such a beautiful phone. What a shame.
I've been using it for about a week and it's great. The only issue with the appearance is finger prints but I literally couldn't care. The edge screen makes the phone for me, now whenever I use another phone, it feels cramped and the bezels look huge. The screen hasn't scratched at all by the way, it's just as durable as any another phone...
Also you said "Can't imagine it roughing it on land or sea.", well no? A phone is a mini computer, not a ball. Yes, it's considered a little fragile but as long as you use the phone as a phone, it's fine.
So to answer your question, yes it still has it's glam + it feels great to have something that looks unique and a phone that people ask you about.
I had ordered a G935F from a large US Retailer - it was supposed to be released in September and then this whole Battery thing happened. Today, I got an email from the Retailer saying the order had been cancelled and the reason given was that the Note 7 had been discontinued.
I have a feeling that this is the final word - Samsung will be annoucing that the Note 7 is discontinued and anyone that has one will be encouarged to return it for an exchange or a refund. (or course they could try to simply replace the existing notes that are out there with a replacement that has a new battery, but I don't think they will want to risk the Liability. If anything happens with a new NOTE 7 released after the problems the first one had, it would put Samsung out of business. Their best bet (and what I think has happened based on the email I got today) is that the Note 7 will be killed off and we will have to wait for the NOTE 8 (which would probably - hopefully - be released simultaneously with the S8 next year.
of course this is mostly conjecture founded on the wording of the email I received from that Retailer - too bad, I had really wanted to get a Note 7
It would make no sense to put out Note 8 along with S8...the sales will just divide among those 2. The question here is not if Note 7 will sell (it already lost the battle), the question is who else, appart from Samsung fans, will buy S8 and/or Note 8. And yes maybe they should discontinue Note 7...but they won't...it would mean they admit defeat (this year). They could though do something for the fans (discount or..something). Lets just wait until first numbers coming from Apple hit the media...I am hoping their increase in number of phones sold is under 20%...I wouldn't be able to stand the grin on my friends owning crapples
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Also you said "Can't imagine it roughing it on land or sea.", well no? A phone is a mini computer, not a ball. Yes, it's considered a little fragile but as long as you use the phone as a phone, it's fine.
So to answer your question, yes it still has it's glam + it feels great to have something that looks unique and a phone that people ask you about.
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Yes, I noticed that the N7 is often described as a phone. It's not; it's a tablet/phone. I'm not a phone person (keep it short!) so the Note4 is for me an outdoor device (hence my question re N7's - a phablet - glass back). And a really good one at that.
mocsab: you might well be right. Goodness knows what that will do for Sammy's rep. It would be a huge let down for so many people.
Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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I'm old, people my age don't consider phones glam, any phone. For me they're tools and the Note 7 is still the best tool on the shelf until the next thing comes. The price of course is supported by nothing more than the vanity of people who think some hardware in a glass/meta/ (insert alleged premium material) shell that they neither see nor touch in its cheap TPU case is somehow better than the exact same hardware wrapped in a plastic shell and then covered with a cheap TPU case. But whatever, being old I can afford the best, that would be the Note 7 in the phablet space. It was yesterday before batterygate, it will be tomorrow after batterygate. It appears right now it will remain so until the spring since the Nexus/Pixel looks to be a little weak this year.
I used my Note 7 for a couple weeks before it started running warm and stuttering. Up until that point it was nearly flawless, easily the best phone I've ever seen. I dropped it the first day (caseless of course) about 18" straight onto concrete and it didn't even get a scratch. I can't wait to get another one, as much as I liked my Note 4 I'm not particularly happy to be back on it. The 7 is just so much faster and more responsive.
I say nearly flawless because I don't like the non-removable battery. Also I'm not a huge fan of the edge screen, but the sharp angle they used really was an improvement on previous edge phones. I'd prefer if the bootloader wasn't locked, but my reasons for rooting and custom ROM's have really diminished as the phones get faster and more polished.
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As many are hearing, the Note 7 production has stopped. Reports of the line being axed have surfaced and trending on major news site, the BBC has this to say:
Samsung said it has stopped making Galaxy Note 7 smartphones due to consumer safety concerns.
The company is expected to permanently end selling the device, a person familiar with the matter said.
Samsung did not comment further.
Assuming the Note 7 is indeed axed, what do you think this means for the Stylus?
My opinion is that Samsung will steer clear of anything Noteesque for quite some time, size aside, something that makes a Note is of course the Stylus, is it likely to die with Samsung? Interested to hear your thoughts...
They will already be too invested in note 8 to kill it as well. They have already gotten patents for components in it, and expected release as early as 3/2017.
Problem is, the Note 4 (only second hand) and 5 (only grey import) also aren't available anymore, so if my Note 3 would die now, I have nothing to replace it with.
I don't agree that they will stay away from the Note platform. That would be handing lots of sales over to other makers, as I'm sure many stick with Samsung for the stylus in a Note sized product. I do hope the next one is a polished, finished product, though.
Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
I have no idea on how many don't use the stylus. Certainly if someone does not use it, it'd be easy to make different choices. But I don't really see the stylus as the issue here. It's the battery.
What to do now? S7E - don't rly like it after touching the NOTE7. Wait for S8 is too long for me. I still use S4 that is dead (at least battery is new) lol. Other brands don't have good camera like N7 or S7E... Not to start talking about accessorys i bought for N7....
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Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
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They used that stylus-statistic to slide the S6Edge+ down our throats and not bring the Note 5 to Europe. The S6E+ tanked and is now being sold with 200+ euro discounts to get rid of excisting stocks.
The Note series is the only phone with stylus. You have nowhere else to go. So switching now is an option, since there are zero new stylus phones on the market at the moment.
I hope they do not kill the stylus.
I love the stylus specially when i am at college.
It allows me to write notes or draw sketches and memes and i am arch student. To me a phone without a stylus looks awkard.. They propably will change name of the note brand by next year or dit h the stylus i hope the later does not happen.
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Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
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Still on Note 4. I think that I have used the stylus once. I keep forgetting it's even there. I bought the Note 4 because it is a good, large, solid phone with a big screen and a REMOVABLE BATTERY. That's the reason that I never went to the Note 5 or Note 7. There are two Note 4s in my family that are just under two years old. I've already had to replace the battery in one because of it not holding a charge, boot loops, etc. To me, the Note 7 was the best of the sealed phones and the only one that I would even bother considering.
What? you thought that for years, people bought a Note just because it has a slightly bigger screen than the S series?
The stylus IS the Note. It's the reason why Samsung had 2 Flagship phones instead of 1. Dude, the Stylus is here to stay, period.
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What to do now? S7E - don't rly like it after touching the NOTE7. Wait for S8 is too long for me. I still use S4 that is dead (at least battery is new) lol. Other brands don't have good camera like N7 or S7E... Not to start talking about accessorys i bought for N7....
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IPhone 7 plus smh
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IPhone 7 plus smh
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Even if ios is fast as **** the fact that I cant even put a damn icon where i want is a deal breaker to me...
I'd move to the iPhone 7 plus but they are backordered until end of November/early December...
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I'd move to the iPhone 7 plus but they are backordered until end of November/early December...
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I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
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I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
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Hmm.. I just called yesterday and all the ones she checked were sold out. I wonder how much I'd have to pay for the 256 gb version.
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They will already be too invested in note 8 to kill it as well. They have already gotten patents for components in it, and expected release as early as 3/2017.
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Let's hope they learn their lesson and go back to using replaceable batteries like my trusty Note 3 does. Let's face it, it's karma, Samsung.
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Assuming the Note 7 is indeed axed, what do you think this means for the Stylus?
My opinion is that Samsung will steer clear of anything Noteesque for quite some time, size aside, something that makes a Note is of course the Stylus, is it likely to die with Samsung? Interested to hear your thoughts...
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I don't think they'll let it die. Let some time pass, bring it out again and maybe even find a new name for it, that's it.
People forget fast anyway, you can watch that in politics every day...
What do you think would happen if that problem arose with a Galaxy S phone? No galaxies any more?
TL;DR: Samsung is a monstrosity of a company. It's for sure a big inconvenience for them, but it won't break their neck and influence them too much.
Think of what would happen if that same thing happened to LG...
And you can be quite sure that all future Samsung phones will be non-exploding a f
EDIT: Whoa, I am astonished of how many people claim to switch to an iPhone....
Have fun with the limited OS and that cancer of software called iTunes
P.S. iphone 7 + is a brick compared to N7... I hate Samsung for giving up on Note 7...
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I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
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Sure enough they are available... Idk how much they are gonna charge me though. For me to upgrade early to the note 7 they made me spend 200 and send in my s6. They are probably gonna make me pay the tax and put $100 down so it barely increases my monthly bill.. Any advice?
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I don't think they'll let it die. Let some time pass, bring it out again and maybe even find a new name for it, that's it.
People forget fast anyway, you can watch that in politics every day...
What do you think would happen if that problem arose with a Galaxy S phone? No galaxies any more?
TL;DR: Samsung is a monstrosity of a company. It's for sure a big inconvenience for them, but it won't break their neck and influence them too much.
Think of what would happen if that same thing happened to LG...
And you can be quite sure that all future Samsung phones will be non-exploding a f
EDIT: Whoa, I am astonished of how many people claim to switch to an iPhone....
Have fun with the limited OS and that cancer of software called iTunes
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I don't use iTunes I use Spotify premium for all my music.
Let see the damage control here, and check out how much you trust Samsung now.
Would you buy the next Samsung Flagship? And if so, how soon?
If you ask me, I will wait at least 2 months of reviews before buying any new flagship phone...
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Several weeks, after second batch preferably. No longer preordering any smart phone
done with samsung I want a removable battery and could care less about water proof.
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done with samsung I want a removable battery and could care less about water proof.
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I would not be surprised if they do this in all honesty, think of the money they would have saved if it was removable.
LG V20 is proof that you can make a phone stylish while still having a removable battery.
Waterproofing to me is a gimmick, I don't use phones in the tub or drop them in the toilet. It's pointless gimmick outside of those that might use it on boating trips and to take pictures under water.
As far as investing in a Samsung phone in the future why not? People don't get it when companies screw up like this they will work much harder to make sure this doesn't happen again. It's not like all of a sudden all future phones they make become improvised explosive devices.
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Well, if there is no freebie involved, I won't be pre-ordering at full price anyway. I usually buy when there is some nice incentive to be had.
But the next Samsung Flagship will be the 5.0-5.5" range S8 (edge), probably with annoying SD 830. So I think I'll pass again.
I'm not pre-ordering anything anymore.
Also, Sammy was my preferred Android vendor. They've lost that status with me.
I'll consider future Samsung phones, but I will have pause due to this.
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Let see the damage control here, and check out how much you trust Samsung now.
Would you buy the next Samsung Flagship? And if so, how soon?
If you ask me, I will wait at least 2 months of reviews before buying any new flagship phone...
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Samsung demosntrated with this crissis its an Stable and Commited corporation, sure they will learn from this sad experience enoug to not repeat this mistake, so I'll buy the next Samsung Flaship ASAP it is released. Mistakes likes this hardly will happen again to Samsung.
I will buy Samsung flagship as soon as it releases but this time I may wait a month before buying the accessories cause I bought a £35 case for my note 7 and if they discontinue note 7 I am done
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Waterproofing to me is a gimmick, I don't use phones in the tub or drop them in the toilet. It's pointless gimmick outside of those that might use it on boating trips and to take pictures under water.
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I will buy Samsung flagship as soon as it releases but this time I may wait a month before buying the accessories cause I bought a £35 case for my note 7 and if they discontinue note 7 I am done
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I'm too pissed off at this point to go back ...will give it a year of two.
I think I'm done with Samsung. How can they mess up twice on their flagship phone. They might not even know why the phones are catching fire. How can I trust them again that the next phone I buy from them won't have some defect?
The hassle in setting up a new phone is bad enough. But I'm sure most of us have bought cases and screen protectors already. I even ordered mine from Amazon and I paid a lot to ship it to the Philippines.
Sorry Samsung. You just lost a customer.
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Let see the damage control here, and check out how much you trust Samsung now.
Would you buy the next Samsung Flagship? And if so, how soon?
If you ask me, I will wait at least 2 months of reviews before buying any new flagship phone...
There's a Poll so Don't forget to vote!
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2-3 months depending on how the reviews are but no less than 2 months. Of course this is also dependant on whether I buy a new phone this year to replace the Note 7 because I can't afford to buy a phone every year since I like to travel and buy other gadgets and such, nor do I see a need to do so. I'm good every 2 years at minimum but 3 years even works fine. Currently debating the overpriced Pixel XL (lack of micro sd sucks but unlimited full size picture storage helps alleviate that a little bit and just buy the 128GB) or the LG V20 since it will be the first to work with Wind's upcoming LTE band-66. Decisions decisions.
When you consider the range of really premium top rated products Samsung has launched over the past few years, why people are turning their backs on them now because of this, astounds me! The Note 7 is still a beautiful phone. It had an issue that could have happened to any other device out there whoever manufactured it . Look at the S7 line it's also stellar. The Gear VR and their smartwatches. And the S8 rumours point to something very innovative and unique on the way next year. So why cut your nose off to spite your face? You can't deny they have made some damn good phones.
They tried to fix the problem with the Note 7 and they eventually stopped production to do what was right for most people. Give them some credit. Stop playing into the hands of the media and the Apple fanboys, intent on bringing Samsung down. They certainly deserve another go.
Yet, after all those years, they can't make a phone that doesn't overheat (or lag for that matter). The focus is on the battery now, but that wasn't the only fault with the N7. I'm still mighty pissed of there is no flat version and that we are getting ignored in Europe most of the time. There is no high-end Samsung with a flat screen larger than 5,1"...
I'd wait about a couple of months, but I tend to do that with everything I buy... early adopting is not for me.
Will buy next flagship Samsung ASAP.... hopefully it will come with a Stylus but nonetheless i will buy and for the time being i m buying J7 prime or A8
I'm pre ordering the s8. I don't care what anyone says but the note 7 is the best phone of 2016. It's a shame it had to go out like that. I think Samsung did the right thing and I'm still down with them. For now...
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I voted for several weeks, but in reality it will totally depend on the situation. I cannot really answer with the options given.
I am not sure what I will do next, and I don't really want to go with an S if they're like the S7 or S7 Edge. My wife and I had both of those during the two week we waited for the Note 7 replacement and, well, for various reasons we didn't like them. If they come out with something like a Note, I may very well do a pre-order as soon as we're able to. But, again, it will totally depend on the situation. I may also wait some weeks or even months, or never even going back to Samsung if I find a phone that I like (so far, little chance for that, I'm going back to my Note 4 once I return my Note 7). I'm willing to take a look elsewhere, like the LG V20 or the Google Pixel XL, and if I like what I have with those, then Samsung wont see me back for some time.
I think for me, in reality, my decision will have little to do with what happened to the Note 7, but it's more like the total package. I fully realize this could've happened with any phone, just so happen to be this one. I don't mind going back to Samsung, but right now they don't have what I want, and when they do, I may not want to go back if I'm satisfied with something else.
From a news article... They might not even know what caused this. Who's to say future phones won't have the same problem
When several Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphones spontaneously exploded in August, the South Korean company went into overdrive. It urged hundreds of employees to quickly diagnose the problem.
None were able to get a phone to explode. Samsung’s engineers, on a tight deadline, initially concluded the defect was caused by faulty batteries from one of the company’s suppliers. Samsung, which announced a recall of the Note 7 devices in September, decided to continue shipping new Galaxy Note 7s containing batteries from a different supplier.
The solution failed. Reports soon surfaced that some of the replacement devices were blowing up too. Company engineers went back to the drawing board, according to a person briefed on the test process who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the internal workings were confidential. As of this week, Samsung’s testers were still unable to reproduce the explosions.
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From a news article... They might not even know what caused this. Who's to say future phones won't have the same problem
When several Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphones spontaneously exploded in August, the South Korean company went into overdrive. It urged hundreds of employees to quickly diagnose the problem.
None were able to get a phone to explode. Samsung’s engineers, on a tight deadline, initially concluded the defect was caused by faulty batteries from one of the company’s suppliers. Samsung, which announced a recall of the Note 7 devices in September, decided to continue shipping new Galaxy Note 7s containing batteries from a different supplier.
The solution failed. Reports soon surfaced that some of the replacement devices were blowing up too. Company engineers went back to the drawing board, according to a person briefed on the test process who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the internal workings were confidential. As of this week, Samsung’s testers were still unable to reproduce the explosions.
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I wonder how reliable is that inside information.
So ...
For the last few weeks, I've done nothing but scour the internet, reading articles, comparing specs, watching videos etc. and haven't found anything remotely close the the beauty of the Note 7, Samsung just has a way of designing phones to be elegant and appealing while making it functional in and out. I didn't really appreciate the little gimmicky features us Samsung "Fanboys" get until this recall, left me forced to look for a replacement phone. Being loyal to Samsung came pretty easy, not because of the name or anything, there just isn't another phone maker on the market that appeals to me aesthetically or on the tech front, Samsung stays ahead of the pack and always has some new reason to upgrade, at least for me.
What's making it hard to switch even temporarily to a different brand?
I've grown accustom to the curved screen that i once chocked up as a gimmick for its functionality, I now appreciate for it's feel and look, for example making the Note 7 look bezel-less and feel so comfortable in the hand. So while searching for a replacement I see other phones with curved screens and thing "Ok, here we go ..." then look how that companies curved screen functionality just pales in comparisons to Samsung's elegant, refined, clean UI and layout, even though I fully admit, I rarely ever use the edge function, but the thought of losing it makes me a bit sad. The same can be said for the s-pen, even as a graphic designer and digital illustrator, I don't use the s-pen as much as one would think, granted I do rough out sketches on my Note 10.1 2014 before going to my desktop and Wacom Cintiq almost every time I do client work, but the s-pen on my Note 7 stays in its silo unless I jot a quick memo or feel like playing with the functions ... but its there when I want it.
Wireless Charging & Fast charging isn't as accessible as you would think these days, considering Samsung users have it for years, I don't remember the last time i used a cord on my phone. I have an Official Samsung charging puck (non Fast-Charge) in my office at work, and an Official Samsung Wireless Fast-Charge Stand on my nightstand at home, again both functional and both beautiful looking with and without the phone on it.
Official Cases. Nobody does it like Samsung on Official cases, with every new Flagship purchase I grab all the Official Cases, beautiful, premium, function and overall are deigned to enhance the look and feel of the phone.
Build Material and Quality. Just top-notch.
Button Placement. After only using Samsung phones for so many years, the button placement is 2nd Nature. Laid out perfectly.
Camera, Don't even really need to go into details on that. Some of the best in the business. I use the camera daily, I take product photos for work in our portfolios online as well as print, and I use my Samsung's cameras to record our business videos. Everyone here uses the newest iPhones and still call me to take quick product photos for the clients, because as they say "Your phone takes way better pictures." And I agree lol.
Fingerprint scanner. Use it. It works and is refined to work great.
Samsung Pay. It works, haven't had it fail on me yet. And everywhere. Another reason why Samsung is the best in the business.
Iris scanner, new feature, call it a gimmick, I thought it was too at first, but damn ... it works, like every time, at least for me. And it's an awesome feature, Samsung gives you things like this to show you they are leading in innovation and tech, you don't have to use it, but you can if you want that extra gadget.
S-Health? I use it. I LOVE wearables, and once again Samsung leads the pack, I own the Gear s2 and Fit2 currently, and have owned every Gear since the 1st, I can't wait to dish out the money for the Gear S3 in a month either lol. And while the watch may connect to non-Samsung phones, the integration isn't the same. And I like everything cohesive.
Gear VR, Again, have had once since the Innovators Edition, and bought a shiny new one back in August for my Note 7, Use it maybe every 2-weeks to watch some Hulu or Netflix and explore some content, But again, even though I don't power use it, it's there when and if I want to, adding another cool function and layer to own a Samsung flagship.
Some people hate Touch-wiz, I've owned no other brand of phone since the Note 1, can't say I've ever had an abnormal lag issue that people say they've experienced, snag here and there, but name a device or OS that doesn't snag every once in a while. Touch-wiz, like it or not, is clean, smooth, functional, easy to navigate and customize, modern and elegant. I never have any issue with it and I power use with heavy media use pretty much daily.
That said, Samsung nailed it with the Note 7. They did and I know I'm not alone is saying that. This phone aesthetically, is perfect. symmetrical, minimal but still flashy with the glass and reflection, the shape of the phone is exactly how I always wanted a phone to look, rectangle, thin, flat and the edges only slightly rounded, unlike Samsung's S-Series that are very rounded and almost look like a toy or feminine in my opinion, very round and bubbly, the Note series, seems to look more masculine and business like with harder corners and a sharper less-gimmicky aesthetic. And the Blacked-out understated Black Onyx Note 7? ... c'mon. So freaking sleek.
Inside, Touch-wiz is clean, granted I also use the "Black Edition" Theme and an app that create custom rounded Google Paper-esque Icons for each App icon, making my home-screen so great looking. * App I use is called "Materialize" I highly recommend it.
So I guess to keep ALMOST everything i stated above, the smart and easy solution is to just grab an S7 and maybe I will, but VERY VERY reluctantly, and without a choice, because as I stated above, they're just ugly, the shape of the phone I just cant digest. Spec-wise the phone is a parallel phone, ascetically and feel-wise, it's not even in the same ball-park. My little brother owns and loves his S7 Edge, I purchased an S7 Edge Pink Gold for my mom when i grabbed my Note 7 in August, she loves it, Says shes never owned anything so pretty. But for me, after holding a Note 7, there's no going back, it may not be a downgrade on paper, but in hand and visually, anything but the Note 7 is a downgrade.
After reading article after article and comment after comment of people bashing Samsung and of people trying to bully people or talk them into just exchanging the phone, I figured I'd write this post up as a little bit of insight into why I at least haven't yet, and maybe I'm alone in feeling like this, don't really care.
Overall, I feel safe with the phone. I don't fly often (haven't in years and don't plan to anytime soon) so the FAA Ban doesn't affect me. I own my home, my wife doesn't feel threatened by the Note 7 (also a Samsung user) and I know if my phone does "explode" that it's on me, I take responsibility for holding onto the phone after the recall. I will not sue or go to the media.
But I can't for the life of me, turn this phone in. I can't. lol I want to, so i cant move on and pout this recall fiasco behind me and enjoy my phone and my Gear VR, but after weeks of researching and physically holding different phone options, they all pale in comparison. In my eyes, Samsung finally made the perfect phone aesthetically, at least for me. And now I just gotta give it back?! lol nah. Not yet at least.
I'm on the next plan through AT&T, turned my S6 Edge + into upgrade, so without the Note 7 I'm phone-less, I've looked into just buying a temp phone until the S8, granted that the S8 appeals to me. And even with buying a temp phone, it has to be up to spec and allow me to have the functions I've grown used to with Samsung's latest Flag-ships. So again, an S7 Edge is my only option, and paying $800 for a phone that I originally passed on almost a year, is a hard pill to swallow. To think the S8 is just gonna be another S7 looking phone with only a 5.5" screen and maybe an added iris scanner, isn't really getting me excited, but I can at least hope they took a page from the Note 7's looks for it.
And then to wonder if the Note series in general is dead ... man. lol That sucks. The Note series wasn't built off trend like the iPhone, it was built of merit, its earned its reputation and earns my business. The Note 7 having it's issues is so unfortunate, especially when in my opinion, its THE BEST Samsung phone to ever hit the market.
So while I still weigh my options for a replacement phone, not knowing if I will wake up to that dreaded only 60% charge or even worse a blocked IMEI or bricked phone. I don't do it lightly. This post and my feelings may seem excessive, but Aug/Sept is like my Superbowl, I wait yearly for new tech announcements and I really enjoy it, my phone is on me daily, everywhere. It get used a lot, i have to hold it and use it a lot. I have to enjoy using it and trust my information on it, it has to be an all in one, and for me ... it also has to look good doing it. So that's why I love this Note 7. It nails my criteria and kicks it up 100 more notches.
I'm sure this post will get trolls throwing the "fanboy" crap around or the know-it-all's blowing it up with "just turn it in!" nonsense, But at least here's one persons view of why i still carry a "potential bomb" (laughable) around. And for the people that could easily just return, switch brands or exchange to an S7 and move on, awesome, wish i could too, but for me it's not that simple, I have too much invested in Samsung, money-wise and routine-wise, and too much time and enjoyment invested in this specific phone to just hand it over.
Anyone else is the same boat?
Return it, get refund - wait till Galaxy S8 comes out.
Just like me dude
i wish i could like your post a billion times..you my friend jus gave the longest most interesting post i ever read. im not a poster im a reader but reading your post i had to say something..sadly for us in America samsung is releasing a big screen phone over in china..6gbram..6inch screen..im not sure about s pen though..its the C9 coming out in november..hopefully we get a phone very twin brotherly similar to the note 7 because its the best phone i ever used..
Dmac1984 said:
So ...
For the last few weeks, I've done nothing but scour the internet, reading articles, comparing specs, watching videos etc. and haven't found anything remotely close the the beauty of the Note 7, Samsung just has a way of designing phones to be elegant and appealing while making it functional in and out. I didn't really appreciate the little gimmicky features us Samsung "Fanboys" get until this recall, left me forced to look for a replacement phone. Being loyal to Samsung came pretty easy, not because of the name or anything, there just isn't another phone maker on the market that appeals to me aesthetically or on the tech front, Samsung stays ahead of the pack and always has some new reason to upgrade, at least for me.
Anyone else is the same boat?
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Sorry I didn't want to repost everything you wrote. I feel exactly the same way, word for word! Your post is upsetting me even more now, and you didn't even mention the water resistant feature or ability to pin hand written notes/reminders to the Always On Display...this feature meant I never had to turn on or touch my phone to remind myself of tasks when I am at work. Also, I rooted my phone and applied the dual speakers mod giving it the stereo sound with Viper4Android I so badly wanted on my Note.
It is a total and complete phone! How can I replace it???
I've received an email from Samsung saying they're arranging collection of my Note 7. :crying: I don't want to give it up but I also don't want to be in a situation where the phone is remotely killed and I miss out on the refund/replacement altogether. :crying:
Dmac1984 said:
So ...
For the last few weeks, I've done nothing but scour the internet, reading articles, comparing specs, watching videos etc. and haven't found anything remotely close the the beauty of the Note 7, Samsung just has a way of designing phones to be elegant and appealing while making it functional in and out. I didn't really appreciate the little gimmicky features us Samsung "Fanboys" get until this recall, left me forced to look for a replacement phone. Being loyal to Samsung came pretty easy, not because of the name or anything, there just isn't another phone maker on the market that appeals to me aesthetically or on the tech front, Samsung stays ahead of the pack and always has some new reason to upgrade, at least for me.
What's making it hard to switch even temporarily to a different brand?
I've grown accustom to the curved screen that i once chocked up as a gimmick for its functionality, I now appreciate for it's feel and look, for example making the Note 7 look bezel-less and feel so comfortable in the hand. So while searching for a replacement I see other phones with curved screens and thing "Ok, here we go ..." then look how that companies curved screen functionality just pales in comparisons to Samsung's elegant, refined, clean UI and layout, even though I fully admit, I rarely ever use the edge function, but the thought of losing it makes me a bit sad. The same can be said for the s-pen, even as a graphic designer and digital illustrator, I don't use the s-pen as much as one would think, granted I do rough out sketches on my Note 10.1 2014 before going to my desktop and Wacom Cintiq almost every time I do client work, but the s-pen on my Note 7 stays in its silo unless I jot a quick memo or feel like playing with the functions ... but its there when I want it.
Wireless Charging & Fast charging isn't as accessible as you would think these days, considering Samsung users have it for years, I don't remember the last time i used a cord on my phone. I have an Official Samsung charging puck (non Fast-Charge) in my office at work, and an Official Samsung Wireless Fast-Charge Stand on my nightstand at home, again both functional and both beautiful looking with and without the phone on it.
Official Cases. Nobody does it like Samsung on Official cases, with every new Flagship purchase I grab all the Official Cases, beautiful, premium, function and overall are deigned to enhance the look and feel of the phone.
Build Material and Quality. Just top-notch.
Button Placement. After only using Samsung phones for so many years, the button placement is 2nd Nature. Laid out perfectly.
Camera, Don't even really need to go into details on that. Some of the best in the business. I use the camera daily, I take product photos for work in our portfolios online as well as print, and I use my Samsung's cameras to record our business videos. Everyone here uses the newest iPhones and still call me to take quick product photos for the clients, because as they say "Your phone takes way better pictures." And I agree lol.
Fingerprint scanner. Use it. It works and is refined to work great.
Samsung Pay. It works, haven't had it fail on me yet. And everywhere. Another reason why Samsung is the best in the business.
Iris scanner, new feature, call it a gimmick, I thought it was too at first, but damn ... it works, like every time, at least for me. And it's an awesome feature, Samsung gives you things like this to show you they are leading in innovation and tech, you don't have to use it, but you can if you want that extra gadget.
S-Health? I use it. I LOVE wearables, and once again Samsung leads the pack, I own the Gear s2 and Fit2 currently, and have owned every Gear since the 1st, I can't wait to dish out the money for the Gear S3 in a month either lol. And while the watch may connect to non-Samsung phones, the integration isn't the same. And I like everything cohesive.
Gear VR, Again, have had once since the Innovators Edition, and bought a shiny new one back in August for my Note 7, Use it maybe every 2-weeks to watch some Hulu or Netflix and explore some content, But again, even though I don't power use it, it's there when and if I want to, adding another cool function and layer to own a Samsung flagship.
Some people hate Touch-wiz, I've owned no other brand of phone since the Note 1, can't say I've ever had an abnormal lag issue that people say they've experienced, snag here and there, but name a device or OS that doesn't snag every once in a while. Touch-wiz, like it or not, is clean, smooth, functional, easy to navigate and customize, modern and elegant. I never have any issue with it and I power use with heavy media use pretty much daily.
That said, Samsung nailed it with the Note 7. They did and I know I'm not alone is saying that. This phone aesthetically, is perfect. symmetrical, minimal but still flashy with the glass and reflection, the shape of the phone is exactly how I always wanted a phone to look, rectangle, thin, flat and the edges only slightly rounded, unlike Samsung's S-Series that are very rounded and almost look like a toy or feminine in my opinion, very round and bubbly, the Note series, seems to look more masculine and business like with harder corners and a sharper less-gimmicky aesthetic. And the Blacked-out understated Black Onyx Note 7? ... c'mon. So freaking sleek.
Inside, Touch-wiz is clean, granted I also use the "Black Edition" Theme and an app that create custom rounded Google Paper-esque Icons for each App icon, making my home-screen so great looking. * App I use is called "Materialize" I highly recommend it.
So I guess to keep ALMOST everything i stated above, the smart and easy solution is to just grab an S7 and maybe I will, but VERY VERY reluctantly, and without a choice, because as I stated above, they're just ugly, the shape of the phone I just cant digest. Spec-wise the phone is a parallel phone, ascetically and feel-wise, it's not even in the same ball-park. My little brother owns and loves his S7 Edge, I purchased an S7 Edge Pink Gold for my mom when i grabbed my Note 7 in August, she loves it, Says shes never owned anything so pretty. But for me, after holding a Note 7, there's no going back, it may not be a downgrade on paper, but in hand and visually, anything but the Note 7 is a downgrade.
After reading article after article and comment after comment of people bashing Samsung and of people trying to bully people or talk them into just exchanging the phone, I figured I'd write this post up as a little bit of insight into why I at least haven't yet, and maybe I'm alone in feeling like this, don't really care.
Overall, I feel safe with the phone. I don't fly often (haven't in years and don't plan to anytime soon) so the FAA Ban doesn't affect me. I own my home, my wife doesn't feel threatened by the Note 7 (also a Samsung user) and I know if my phone does "explode" that it's on me, I take responsibility for holding onto the phone after the recall. I will not sue or go to the media.
But I can't for the life of me, turn this phone in. I can't. lol I want to, so i cant move on and pout this recall fiasco behind me and enjoy my phone and my Gear VR, but after weeks of researching and physically holding different phone options, they all pale in comparison. In my eyes, Samsung finally made the perfect phone aesthetically, at least for me. And now I just gotta give it back?! lol nah. Not yet at least.
I'm on the next plan through AT&T, turned my S6 Edge + into upgrade, so without the Note 7 I'm phone-less, I've looked into just buying a temp phone until the S8, granted that the S8 appeals to me. And even with buying a temp phone, it has to be up to spec and allow me to have the functions I've grown used to with Samsung's latest Flag-ships. So again, an S7 Edge is my only option, and paying $800 for a phone that I originally passed on almost a year, is a hard pill to swallow. To think the S8 is just gonna be another S7 looking phone with only a 5.5" screen and maybe an added iris scanner, isn't really getting me excited, but I can at least hope they took a page from the Note 7's looks for it.
And then to wonder if the Note series in general is dead ... man. lol That sucks. The Note series wasn't built off trend like the iPhone, it was built of merit, its earned its reputation and earns my business. The Note 7 having it's issues is so unfortunate, especially when in my opinion, its THE BEST Samsung phone to ever hit the market.
So while I still weigh my options for a replacement phone, not knowing if I will wake up to that dreaded only 60% charge or even worse a blocked IMEI or bricked phone. I don't do it lightly. This post and my feelings may seem excessive, but Aug/Sept is like my Superbowl, I wait yearly for new tech announcements and I really enjoy it, my phone is on me daily, everywhere. It get used a lot, i have to hold it and use it a lot. I have to enjoy using it and trust my information on it, it has to be an all in one, and for me ... it also has to look good doing it. So that's why I love this Note 7. It nails my criteria and kicks it up 100 more notches.
I'm sure this post will get trolls throwing the "fanboy" crap around or the know-it-all's blowing it up with "just turn it in!" nonsense, But at least here's one persons view of why i still carry a "potential bomb" (laughable) around. And for the people that could easily just return, switch brands or exchange to an S7 and move on, awesome, wish i could too, but for me it's not that simple, I have too much invested in Samsung, money-wise and routine-wise, and too much time and enjoyment invested in this specific phone to just hand it over.
Anyone else is the same boat?
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I feel the exact same way. I have owned every Note since the Note 1 so I am obviously a huge fan. I actually bought the s7 Edge just in case the phone gets blocked or bricked and I still can't bring myself to send back the Note 7.
I can say I feel very much the same way.. with perhaps a bit the exception of S Health since the measurements aren't always correct (instead, I use a fitbit, and manual checking of heartrate/bloodpressure/glucose (which I then again do enter into S Health so it's not entirely pointless to me)).
As I have to return the Note 7 the same time as my wife (which is the biggest reason I haven't done just yet, our schedules are very different), I keep browsing the net, hoping to read or see something that makes me interested to another phone, but I keep coming back to my Note 4 when the day comes that I return my Note 7. The S7 Edge is in a decent second position (I've already stepped away from the idea of upgrading my phone and decided whatever I get next I'll just buy), and the V20 in a third place. There's still some thought of the Pixel but very little to be honest. I'll need to check them out in the store, maybe even take them for a week or so to make a decision (they don't do restocking fees in my state.
But yeah, so far, nothing has come close to the Note 7, and in a way I'm kind of glad my wife and I have such different schedules that I don't really have to get a new phone straight away.. or actually, perhaps I should, but it gives me a bit of an excuse (to my own that is, I know some people feel different about that, to each their own I guess) to keep it for now. I wont be flying for a few more months so I have time lol
I'm disappointed to have gave up my Note, it was a hell of a device, more so on the design front, it's the best designed phone I've ever had, but I got a Pixel XL now and you no what I'm happy with it, the design is lacking a bit but other wise it's still a good alternative.
Kinan Badre said:
Return it, get refund - wait till Galaxy S8 comes out.
Just like me dude
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Do what YOU want. YOU. You are not put on this Earth to follow orders from others. As long as you are not harming anyone else then do it. KEEP IT.
It really isn't that complicated.
I bought my first mobile phone in 1989! From that time I have literally owned hundreds of them. I cant think of a brand I have not owned but bet I could mention one or two most of you have not heard of! lol
This Note 7 was something else. It was so much more than 'just' a mobile phone, it just felt superb to own and to hold. It was so feature rich that I have had to keep out of numerous threads here where the OP is asking what to exchange the Note 7 for? The answer is literally so simple. There is nothing presently on the market that combines all the features, quality and performance that the note 7 does-did. Sure some have this or that feature but the Note 7 had the lot and many more besides.
I am so disappointed to have had to return my mobile TWICE I just cant write any more on that point.
My only hope is to get another 'tech junkie fix' in March? Failing that...........well lets see.
The Note 7 in some form must live on and Samsung should be hard at word in their R&D department ensuring the Note range continues.
I disagree entirely when the media continually writes reports about the lasting damage done to Samsung. Not at all. Samsung made the recall what else could they do? Though I doubt conspiracy I do think some of the media reports have hidden agendas and a few have been totally false, still, this is what sells the media and its to be expected these days.
I recall with horror the scenario regarding the Asus Transformer Prime.... Asus lead the field in tablet note books yet dropped a massive clanger with the Prime, its GPS and wi-fi didn't work as the inside antennas could not penetrate the metal top cover so we all bought a paper weight. Asus was literally taken to court in numerous countries and even very large petitions where drawn up. Asus ignored the lot and look at them today.
How many of you remember the infamous transformer Prime? I spent 3,000€ two weeks ago on an Asus ROG lap top!
This situation will blow over and the media will soon look for the next bad news they can report on and milk.
I hope Samsung compensate those of us who bought two Note7's and went through the ringer. I also hope Samsung get their act together and help those who are requesting help and support.
Incredible mobile, incredible to own and operate. I truly miss the device every day. I need that bloody pen! Unable to purchase a Note 5 here in Europe and the Note 4 prices have got to a silly point costing as much as the SG S7 edge. I wanted to buy a note 4 but I must force myself to wait till next march. Self control is not my strong point with my tech vice!
Ryland
The only Phone that is comparable to the Note 7 is the Mate 9. Look it up, due for release next month. Makes you wonder, Mate, Note. For all WE know is it is all part of a long drawn out marketing plan.
Besides the official release date for the Note 7 in Europe was (is still listed as) October 28th. Same exact date the Note 2 was released. And the Note Edge. And the Galaxy View. Hmmm. Pattern Recognition alert!
The Phone Company said:
Do what YOU want. YOU. You are not put on this Earth to follow orders from others. As long as you are not harming anyone else then do it. KEEP IT.
It really isn't that complicated.
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Oh heck, not this again in every bloomin thread..."keep it". "Return it". That is not what the OP wants to hear there are a dozen threads on this 'To keep or not to keep that is the question' Cant we get past that?
Ryland
Kinan Badre said:
Return it, get refund - wait till Galaxy S8 comes out.
Just like me dude
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Ryland Johnson said:
I bought my first mobile phone in 1989! From that time I have literally owned hundreds of them. I cant think of a brand I have not owned but bet I could mention one or two most of you have not heard of! lol
This Note 7 was something else. It was so much more than 'just' a mobile phone, it just felt superb to own and to hold. It was so feature rich that I have had to keep out of numerous threads here where the OP is asking what to exchange the Note 7 for? The answer is literally so simple. There is nothing presently on the market that combines all the features, quality and performance that the note 7 does-did. Sure some have this or that feature but the Note 7 had the lot and many more besides.
I am so disappointed to have had to return my mobile TWICE I just cant write any more on that point.
My only hope is to get another 'tech junkie fix' in March? Failing that...........well lets see.
The Note 7 in some form must live on and Samsung should be hard at word in their R&D department ensuring the Note range continues.
I disagree entirely when the media continually writes reports about the lasting damage done to Samsung. Not at all. Samsung made the recall what else could they do? Though I doubt conspiracy I do think some of the media reports have hidden agendas and a few have been totally false, still, this is what sells the media and its to be expected these days.
I recall with horror the scenario regarding the Asus Transformer Prime.... Asus lead the field in tablet note books yet dropped a massive clanger with the Prime, its GPS and wi-fi didn't work as the inside antennas could not penetrate the metal top cover so we all bought a paper weight. Asus was literally taken to court in numerous countries and even very large petitions where drawn up. Asus ignored the lot and look at them today.
How many of you remember the infamous transformer Prime? I spent 3,000€ two weeks ago on an Asus ROG lap top!
This situation will blow over and the media will soon look for the next bad news they can report on and milk.
I hope Samsung compensate those of us who bought two Note7's and went through the ringer. I also hope Samsung get their act together and help those who are requesting help and support.
Incredible mobile, incredible to own and operate. I truly miss the device every day. I need that bloody pen! Unable to purchase a Note 5 here in Europe and the Note 4 prices have got to a silly point costing as much as the SG S7 edge. I wanted to buy a note 4 but I must force myself to wait till next march. Self control is not my strong point with my tech vice!
Ryland
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Ever considered the Note Pro 12.2?
Strange how there aren't many other Samsung devices that utilize the SPen Stylus. Was looking for alternatives to the Note 7 and in lieu of following the 'in-crowd' I went completely in the opposite direction. Eye-ing the Galaxy View right now, along with the Note Pro 12.2, but can't find it currently on sale anywhere!!?
If anything resembles the original Note 7 then we are looking at the Mate 9. Mate? Note? SEE how this works.
IRIS = SIRI It's all the same 'system'.
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Ryland Johnson said:
Oh sh1t, not this again in ever bloomin thread..."keep it". "Return it". That is not what the OP wants to hear there are a dozen threads on this 'To keep or not to keep that is the question' Cant we get past that?
Ryland
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How dare you!
Quit your consistent neuro-linguistic programming against the unsuspecting, this is EXACTLY what the OP wants to hear, against the barrage of those all around us using online astro-turfing techniques to make him think he NEEDS to turn his Note 7 in.
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Mate IX si si it is it is!
dannyboi5790 said:
i wish i could like your post a billion times..you my friend jus gave the longest most interesting post i ever read. im not a poster im a reader but reading your post i had to say something..sadly for us in America samsung is releasing a big screen phone over in china..6gbram..6inch screen..im not sure about s pen though..its the C9 coming out in november..hopefully we get a phone very twin brotherly similar to the note 7 because its the best phone i ever used..
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Yea Samsung has no shortage of unlocked phones to choose from, the remaining problem with grabbing one is no VR comparability still.
I'm locked down to Note 5, S6, S6 Edge, S7 or S7 Edge to use my VR, but at this point I'm looking and open to anything even if just temporary.
Dmac1984 said:
Yea Samsung has no shortage of unlocked phones to choose from, the remaining problem with grabbing one is no VR comparability still.
I'm locked down to Note 5, S6, S6 Edge, S7 or S7 Edge to use my VR, but at this point I'm looking and open to anything even if just temporary.
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wait the other samsung phones arent vr compatible..smh super dumb..im thinkin of the note 5 and just rooting it and slapping on a rom but idk that small battery nd no sd card is a bummer
Thanks, OP. Very well stated. I feel exactly the same. I'm keeping mine until they set a deadline for a refund, they block my IMEI, or the Galaxy S8 comes out.
The Huawei Mate 9 leaks look good, but no wireless charging, no S Pen, and no Samsung Pay. Plus the higher resolution curved screen may be China only.
dannyboi5790 said:
wait the other samsung phones arent vr compatible..smh super dumb..im thinkin of the note 5 and just rooting it and slapping on a rom but idk that small battery nd no sd card is a bummer
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Nope, unless there is and I don't know about it, but I'm pretty sure the VR privliges are reserved for the flagship, with the high specs.
I've thought about the Note 5 and i might be willing to lose the curved screen and SD card at least temporarily. Honestly I had the S6 Edge + before the Note 7 and never ran into a storage problem, used the cloud for stuff and never keep a lot of games or anything on my phone anyways, i leep those on my tablet, between VUDU, Google Play Movies, Hulu, Netflix and Amazon Video and Music, storage wasnt an issue. But I'd prefer to never have to go back to no SD card again lol.
Is there a Note 7 rom for the Note 5?
I am exactly glad sharing the attitude towards this beatiful device, no other phone can compare not the Icrapphone or the piCRaPxel
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Nope, unless there is and I don't know about it, but I'm pretty sure the VR privliges are reserved for the flagship, with the high specs.
I've thought about the Note 5 and i might be willing to lose the curved screen and SD card at least temporarily. Honestly I had the S6 Edge + before the Note 7 and never ran into a storage problem, used the cloud for stuff and never keep a lot of games or anything on my phone anyways, i leep those on my tablet, between VUDU, Google Play Movies, Hulu, Netflix and Amazon Video and Music, storage wasnt an issue. But I'd prefer to never have to go back to no SD card again lol.
Is there a Note 7 rom for the Note 5?
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there should be 1 im to scroll through the note5 forums to see what they have going on over there..but i doubt im going to it i love the note 7 too much and id it blows ill be on top of it because im never seperate from phone anyway
The Note 5, S6, S6 Edge, S7 & S7 Edge are all compatible with the new gear VR. There's an adapter to change the USB port to the phone.
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The Note 5, S6, S6 Edge, S7 & S7 Edge are all compatible with the new gear VR. There's an adapter to change the USB port to the phone.
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Yeah that what we were saying, all a substantial downgrade in my opinion though.
I was holding out hoping they would start getting desperate to get the recalled units back, let's hope this is the case, so i guess i should hold out longer now Nd see what happens. They should give us discounts on the next phone, but that doesn't really help being on contract for people like me on the next plan, if i switch the s7 edge right now, I'm locked in for a year unless I pay off half the phone, its a mess but I'm hoping this mess blows over soon, I dont want the S7 but I will use it temporarily until a real upgrade drops, otherwise I'll keep my Note 7, really just depends in what Samsung is willing to do to get me to give it up lol.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.techtimes.com/amp/articles/183031/20161022/samsung-considering-offering-galaxy-note-7-customers-discounts-on-new-galaxy-s8-s8-plus-and-note-8-upon-release.htm?client=ms-android-att-us
I was feeling the same until, in the interests of safety and concern I might need to fly unexpectedly, I swapped for an S7E. The phone is fine. I miss the iris scanner a bit. I barely used the s-pen. I think the battery life is better. I can totally live with this phone for a year or two. I'm on the Jump plan but I really don't make use of the upgrade option much.
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So much for keeping the S8 a secret.
I think I've already made up my mind with the LG V20. So I'll pass on this offer.
Discount or not, many will still be in a contract if they were forced to take the S7...
Doesn't seem like this speculative deal is just for hold outs, but for anyone who owned a Note 7.
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So much for keeping the S8 a secret.
I think I've already made up my mind with the LG V20. So I'll pass on this offer.
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LCD? Really? I just can't see beyond that glaring weakness.
So far this offer appears to only be for users in South Korea - Samsung may simply never make the offer worldwide, that would be somewhat extreme and basically cost them double what this whole thing is costing them at this point in time.
Perhaps this offer arose for Korea because some 500 people are sueing them there already?
Now a S7 Edge explodes. wtf?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-edge-explodes-while-charging_id86908
So I can sign up for an S7E then get a Note 8 upgrade mid term at 50% off? http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...korea-makes-it-easier-buy-galaxy-s8-or-note-8
Assuming they extend this offer to the UK that is. Well I returned my N7 and am awaiting a call from Carphone Warehouse to upgrade to the S7E. But I guess I'll only do this if they extend the offer to the UK...
COME ON SAMSUNG....it's not just S. Korea that have been screwed over.
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Now a S7 Edge explodes. wtf?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-edge-explodes-while-charging_id86908
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I would be willing to bet that almost every model of phone has had a couple examples of individual phones having meltdowns. It's called "acceptable risk of failure"
i.e. the manufacturer tests and does calculations on their product, and analyzes it to determine how likely the device is to fail, and what the potential damage from said failure would be. If the financial risk due to that failure is lower than the cost to lower the failure rate, they don't care about it (unless the failure rate would be so high that it would draw negative media attention, such as the case with the Note 7).
I imagine that Samsung did this with the Note 7 - they looked at the situation and figured "well, we can swap to the single battery maker for xx million dollars, and replace existing batteries (as well as potentially the glass and body), and the failure rate risk will be lowered to 1 in whatever number of phones". Then when they did that, they realized that the continuing failure of first gen phones, combined with a very small handful of second gen phones (yes, there were 25 or so failures after the phones started being replaced, but not nearly all of those were second gen phones), the only options were either do a full recall, and mitigate the potential financial liability from a lawsuit, or do a complete recall and re-release the phone after putting it through even more extensive testing and possibly an update or repair to the hardware (requiring full recertification and testing for most countries they are sold in that require such certification). The cost was too great, and the risk was too great, so they canned the phone.
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So I can sign up for an S7E then get a Note 8 upgrade mid term at 50% off? http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...korea-makes-it-easier-buy-galaxy-s8-or-note-8
Assuming they extend this offer to the UK that is. Well I returned my N7 and am awaiting a call from Carphone Warehouse to upgrade to the S7E. But I guess I'll only do this if they extend the offer to the UK...
COME ON SAMSUNG....it's not just S. Korea that have been screwed over.
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I wonder if the editor of that publication read the article before he wrote the headline? The article says 50% off screen repair costs. It says nothing about a 50% discount on an S8 or Note 8!
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So much for keeping the S8 a secret.
I think I've already made up my mind with the LG V20. So I'll pass on this offer.
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ermm ........ you will be back
V20 a HOG of a phone - huge bezels. And an IPS display... no thanks to 2012 tech!
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ermm ........ you will be back
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Oh of course. I'm actually brand neutral. I have tried many brand of smartphones over the years.
Starting with the HTC Dream, and then I've had Motorola, Samsung, Xiaomi, Sony and one more that slipped my mind.
The smartphone has become such a personal device for me, it has already superceded my laptop usage. I've had cheap smartphones in the past and I had enough of those. Few months ago, decided to have one super smartphone that does everything I need. And the Note 7 looked like it fit the bill. But we know how that ended up. And the S7 Edge doesn't quite fit the bill for me.
The LG V20 looks good for my daily use. I totally understand why you'd disagree. But we all have our personal preferences. And the V20 might just work out for me. At the same time, it would be the first time I'd try LG.
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Oh of course. I'm actually brand neutral. I have tried many brand of smartphones over the years.
Starting with the HTC Dream, and then I've had Motorola, Samsung, Xiaomi, Sony and one more that slipped my mind.
The smartphone has become such a personal device for me, it has already superceded my laptop usage. I've had cheap smartphones in the past and I had enough of those. Few months ago, decided to have one super smartphone that does everything I need. And the Note 7 looked like it fit the bill. But we know how that ended up. And the S7 Edge doesn't quite fit the bill for me.
The LG V20 looks good for my daily use. I totally understand why you'd disagree. But we all have our personal preferences. And the V20 might just work out for me. At the same time, it would be the first time I'd try LG.
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How was your Xiaomi experience? I'm eye-balling the Xiaomi Note 2 that just dropped today as a temporary device until the S8 or Note 8 comes out, something to just buy outright and enjoy. But never owned anything but Samsung, so yes I'll def lose the Samsung Perks, I.E. Samsung Pay, Gear VR Etc. But looks-wise Xiaomi did a DECENT job imitating the Note 7, that Skin is just blehhhhhh though.
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How was your Xiaomi experience? I'm eye-balling the Xiaomi Note 2 that just dropped today as a temporary device until the S8 or Note 8 comes out, something to just buy outright and enjoy. But never owned anything but Samsung, so yes I'll def lose the Samsung Perks, I.E. Samsung Pay, Gear VR Etc. But looks-wise Xiaomi did a DECENT job imitating the Note 7, that Skin is just blehhhhhh though.
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They're decent smart devices for the price.
However, most reviews of smartphones (every smartphone, not just Xiaomi) fail to cover is the call quality. I mean, it's a smart -phone- after all.
I make phone calls all the time. My parents, my in-laws, my wife, friends, etc.
Once, my wife and I had the Redmi 2, and it was one of the most frustrating experiences we had. We were constantly struggling to make out what we're telling each other.
We've since switched phones. She got a Galaxy S6, I got the Xperia Z3 Compact, VoLTE and HD Voice was like butter to our ears.
I got the Note 7 initially, so that we could communicate using 3G video calls, something not many smartphones support. But now that the Note 7 is discontinued, I have to search for an alternative.
I was quite close to settle for the S7 (no Edge), until I discovered the V20 also supoorts 3G video calls. So I'm giving that a shot.
Edit - Oh and charging was slow. After experiencing quick charge, you can't go back.
To be fair, I'm not sure about the newer flagship Xiaomi phones. But I don't think I'll be getting another Mi phone soon. I am eager to try OnePlus 3 some day.
My country the only option is to get the refund. So will I still able to get the discount rate for s8?
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My country the only option is to get the refund. So will I still able to get the discount rate for s8?
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So far, reports suggests it's only in S Korea. Not worldwide.
As a pre-order Note 7 customer who never received one due to the Recall Farce I can outright state I am still a happy, content user of my now over 2 years old Note 4.
I was extremely upset at never getting a Note 7, but my point is, with all the other options being spouted out on these forums, iPhone 7, Pixel, V20, Mate 9 Porsche, Xiaomi Mi Note 2, S7 Edge I am so SOO happy I held off.
Why?
Because the rumors of the new Galaxy S8, and even Note 8, are just too exciting, and to all those who rushed in to a new 24 month locked in contract they may end up wishing they waited. I was so close to doing so with the S7 Edge, but kept telling myself, be patient!
The main points pushing me to sign a new contract were twofold, I have £50 Store Credit with Carphone Warehouse and the resale value of my current Note 4 is STILL very much of significance.
Who else is happy they waited and are excited about the new S8?
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Considering I am still using my note 7, I am waiting till the s8 comes out or the note 8 before I turn this in. The only way they will get me to come in is if they deactivate it.
I'm waiting until they tell us how they are going to take care of us. I'm guessing they never will, so until then, I'll take advantage of them like they've done to me.
Like a few others on here I got mine sim free direct from Samsung UK using their 'Upgrade on finance' deal they were doing (£31 per month x 24 + 10% deposit). I still have N7#2 (on 100% battery thanks to early version of Package Disabler Pro) and intend to keep using it until the N8 comes out. As per the original Samsung deal, I return the N7 for the next version come next summer/autumn or whenever the next Note is out.
If they succeed in having me return the N7 before then I get a refund of any monies paid and we just start again when the N8 appears.
I cant imagine using Big Ass note 4 or 5, laugh!!
It is absolutely normal to get that feeling OP but is it really worth it? As you will be missing out on certain stage and the experience. There will always be a phone newer than yours. With your future s8 or note8 you will still go through exactly same experience as you mention before. In my opinion nothing changes. Note8 will also get old.
Note 7 to me is the crim de la crim. There is nothing about the phone that i don't like. It has it all. (if note 8 will be better, im sure ill wish i had it.)
Tiny bezels,
Curved screen(yes once you go curve its hard to go back)
Wireless fast charge(Super important. My future phones will always wireless)
Quick access camera button.
Big display(never will I go for 5.5) (S7 Edge look tiny) and Note 4 looks like a tanks compared to N7
Waterproof (piece of mind )
Awesome Display(which is one of the big features of Samsung for me)
Many, many other features that i don't want to mention as the aboves ones are enough to have glued to this phone and not want any other.
I thought about Pixel and V20 but those don't have what note 7 has therefore the phone is not for me.
I hope to keep the phone at very least till Note8 comes out. May be longer. (depending what N8 will have over N7) I usually change my phones every year tho but ill be happy keeping this one till N9. If possible.
Me too, I still use mine every day. See quite a few others around my job doing the same. I'll turn it in when they release the S8 or whatever comes next.
Like I have said many times on this forum, I really believe there is nothing wrong with this phone. The first batch, yeah, something was awry. But the second batch looks fine to me. This really had to do with perception. Once a second batch phone had a problem, Samsung had no choice. Whereas with most phones a simple battery fire wouldn't have been an issue, given the debacle with the first batch, Sammy would've been sued badly should any more of the 2nd batch phones lit up.
The last I heard, like 10% haven't returned their phones, so that means many, many thousands are still out there. And no reports of fire. Trust me, the media would be all over a fire caused by a user that failed to return their phone.
Just my opinion of course, your mileage may vary.
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Still mad I can't root though...Messed around and took the update. I was going to have them exchange, but then the recall happened. I'm fugged on that front...oh well.
Yes, actually I am also using my faithful old Note4. Waiting for next Samsung goodies, preferably with s-pen.
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The last I heard, like 10% haven't returned their phones, so that means many, many thousands are still out there. And no reports of fire. Trust me, the media would be all over a fire caused by a user that failed to return their phone.
Just my opinion of course, your mileage may vary.
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The is a very fair point. Even with say 5 or 10% of the phones out there, we'd expect to see incidents continuing to be reported albeit at a reduced rate. Yet there is no such news, and I like you I would think it would be big news not to be missed by the media. And yet, silence.
That said, I was happy to take the risk anyway, but unfortunately I am not happy to live with a phone that has no updates for 2 years and which doesn't work with my GearVR, so I will have to return it at some point.
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The is a very fair point. Even with say 5 or 10% of the phones out there, we'd expect to see incidents continuing to be reported albeit at a reduced rate. Yet there is no such news, and I like you I would think it would be big news not to be missed by the media. And yet, silence.
That said, I was happy to take the risk anyway, but unfortunately I am not happy to live with a phone that has no updates for 2 years and which doesn't work with my GearVR, so I will have to return it at some point.
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The story with the "thief's" Note7 exploding last week got quite a bit of coverage last week?
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The is a very fair point. Even with say 5 or 10% of the phones out there, we'd expect to see incidents continuing to be reported albeit at a reduced rate. Yet there is no such news, and I like you I would think it would be big news not to be missed by the media. And yet, silence.
That said, I was happy to take the risk anyway, but unfortunately I am not happy to live with a phone that has no updates for 2 years and which doesn't work with my GearVR, so I will have to return it at some point.
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Updates to me are over rated. I always freeze the OTA apk's as soon as I get my phone and root it. Unless there is some huge benefit to upgrading (which I have never seen yet in about 9 years of owning android phones), I just keep my phone how it is once I root and lock in my ROM. Usually I go with a stock based ROM that someone on XDA has made and just stick with that.
As far as the N7, one can root and then from there you can do changes to make the Gear VR work. You can even use an old IMEI from a previous phone you owned and use that on the N7 if you really wanted (from what I have read - I have not done that). So if one really wanted to keep their N7, they could root and then do all of these things and still use it for a long time. I suspect there will be more people than we think who end up doing this and using their N7 until the N8 or similar option is available.
As of now, the N7 is still working 100% as it is supposed to on Verizon for me. I disabled all OTA apk's right away with package disabler, so my phone has never been updated. Unless Verizon and other carriers start blacklisting IMEI's, I will continue to use mine unless and viable option becomes available. I have been close to swapping for an S7 edge, but am going to wait and see what deals come out for it on Black friday and for the holiday season. If the deals are good enough I may yet just take my $100 I get for turning in my N7 and get the discounted S7. I can use that until either the S8 comes out, or even until the N8. I can always give my S7 to my girlfriend (she may be my wife by then) if/when I upgrade. Those are the options I am looking at right now. Happily using my N7 until the decision is either forced upon me or it seems the right time to turn it in and get the S7.
I'm very keen on an S8 though, especially if there's any chance of a 4k screen, which would make some VR experiences simply incredible - not that they are not already.
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Updates to me are over rated. I always freeze the OTA apk's as soon as I get my phone and root it. Unless there is some huge benefit to upgrading (which I have never seen yet in about 9 years of owning android phones), I just keep my phone how it is once I root and lock in my ROM. Usually I go with a stock based ROM that someone on XDA has made and just stick with that.
As far as the N7, one can root and then from there you can do changes to make the Gear VR work. You can even use an old IMEI from a previous phone you owned and use that on the N7 if you really wanted (from what I have read - I have not done that). So if one really wanted to keep their N7, they could root and then do all of these things and still use it for a long time. I suspect there will be more people than we think who end up doing this and using their N7 until the N8 or similar option is available.
As of now, the N7 is still working 100% as it is supposed to on Verizon for me. I disabled all OTA apk's right away with package disabler, so my phone has never been updated. Unless Verizon and other carriers start blacklisting IMEI's, I will continue to use mine unless and viable option becomes available. I have been close to swapping for an S7 edge, but am going to wait and see what deals come out for it on Black friday and for the holiday season. If the deals are good enough I may yet just take my $100 I get for turning in my N7 and get the discounted S7. I can use that until either the S8 comes out, or even until the N8. I can always give my S7 to my girlfriend (she may be my wife by then) if/when I upgrade. Those are the options I am looking at right now. Happily using my N7 until the decision is either forced upon me or it seems the right time to turn it in and get the S7.
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Similar to bow I run Windows 7 in lieu of 10. I don't need "updates". The thing works fine as is, "security updates" are a farce. On Windows 7 I never update and in all of 6 years I have had a "security issue". Ever.
I broke down after they crippled me with the 60% battery, sucks, i didnt want to go back to my s4 which i had for 3.5 years so ordered Note 4 edge from ebay, hope to have it by Monday and also hope nothing wrong with it lol. Plan on atleast using that for the next year til the S8 plus or whatever they want to call the new NOTE is comes out and is SAFELY on the market for a FEW MONTHS before i jump on it lol, not dealing with returning phones again!!