16GB, 2GB ram = Hydrogen too? Can I use Hydrogen roms without problems on it? - Xiaomi Mi Max Questions & Answers

Hey!
I'm looking for a small high end tablet and the Mi Max would be perfect for that. Especially the 2GB 16GB version as it is cheap and I will only read the news on it and browse a bit.
It seems the roms for the 32GB 3GB ram version work on the 16GB 2GB ram version. At least, that is what it looks like at reading threaths here and on Miui. I was hoping however that there would be somebody who could acknowledge this (an user with the 16GB 2GB ram modell?) ?
Thanks!

Robin>Hood said:
Hey!
I'm looking for a small high end tablet and the Mi Max would be perfect for that. Especially the 2GB 16GB version as it is cheap and I will only read the news on it and browse a bit.
It seems the roms for the 32GB 3GB ram version work on the 16GB 2GB ram version. At least, that is what it looks like at reading threaths here and on Miui. I was hoping however that there would be somebody who could acknowledge this (an user with the 16GB 2GB ram modell?) ?
Thanks!
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If they both have code name hydrogen and they do then they use same ROM and again... they do. Don't worry...

nijel8 said:
If they both have code name hydrogen and they do then they use same ROM and again... they do. Don't worry...
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Thanks, that's what I assumed too... but a little bit of doubt came upon me because I somewhere read somebody hard bricked his phone. But that person might have used a helium rom on a hydrogen device or something.
So no changing ***.img files in zip files, just straight forward flashing?
Not that I can't but well.... you know hehe.

Robin>Hood said:
Thanks, that's what I assumed too... but a little bit of doubt came upon me because I somewhere read somebody hard bricked his phone. But that person might have used a helium rom on a hydrogen device or something.
So no changing ***.img files in zip files, just straight forward flashing?
Not that I can't but well.... you know hehe.
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Straight forward, no changes. People brick their Mi Maxes even without doing anything wrong. It's a Xiaomi thing...

i have 16g rom & 2g ram = Hydrogen
and flashed MIUI 8 for this

shtiger2002 said:
i have 16g rom & 2g ram = Hydrogen
and flashed MIUI 8 for this
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Really ? I just received mine yesterday and wanted to try MIUI 8.
which one did you download ? Link ?

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[Q] LagFix aplication for trim suport

Hello guys
It is my first post so excuse my bad english.
I want to ask you if somewone used this aplication for trim suport.
In the aplication review sead that if the phone model is not compatible can brick the phone.
So is Ascend P6 compatible with this aplication or not?
On the other hand what type o memory module is used as system memory?
Thanks in advance for the answers.
savudragosh2 said:
Hello guys
It is my first post so excuse my bad english.
I want to ask you if somewone used this aplication for trim suport.
In the aplication review sead that if the phone model is not compatible can brick the phone.
So is Ascend P6 compatible with this aplication or not?
On the other hand what type o memory module is used as system memory?
Thanks in advance for the answers.
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I think it requires some sort of kernel support for TRIM, which the huawei kernel obviously doesn't have...
tauio111 said:
I think it requires some sort of kernel support for TRIM, which the huawei kernel obviously doesn't have...
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Thank you for the answer.
The other important question is: ascend p6 comes with eMMC technology or flash, for the system memory?
If we have eMMC (and we should have because it wase released in the second half of 2013) the Trim suport in kernel should be a must have; i think.
Thank you in advance for your answers.
savudragosh2 said:
Thank you for the answer.
The other important question is: ascend p6 comes with eMMC technology or flash, for the system memory?
If we have eMMC (and we should have because it wase released in the second half of 2013) the Trim suport in kernel should be a must have; i think.
Thank you in advance for your answers.
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Samsung KMVUS000LM-B304 252 chip is used for memory I believe, but I can't find any information of it being either eMMC or flash. I attatched a picture which has the word "Flash" in it, so it may actually be a flash memory. Nonetheless TRIM support came with 4.3, P6 launched with 4.2.2, and altough we have a 4.4.2 beta, the changes in the kernel have been very minimal. Unless they build a new kernel from scratch (which I doubt highly), the TRIM support wont be there. I also believe the K3V2oem1 kernel wont be updated much, so we have to rely on the K3V2+ kernel source, with some modifications, if it gets released and updated to a newer linux kernel version.
tauio111 said:
Samsung KMVUS000LM-B304 252 chip is used for memory I believe, but I can't find any information of it being either eMMC or flash. I attatched a picture which has the word "Flash" in it, so it may actually be a flash memory. Nonetheless TRIM support came with 4.3, P6 launched with 4.2.2, and altough we have a 4.4.2 beta, the changes in the kernel have been very minimal. Unless they build a new kernel from scratch (which I doubt highly), the TRIM support wont be there. I also believe the K3V2oem1 kernel wont be updated much, so we have to rely on the K3V2+ kernel source, with some modifications, if it gets released and updated to a newer linux kernel version.
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Hello and thank you again for the answers.
For what i can see in the picture the one in the middle is the memory card. It says SAMSUNG that means that it is a quality chip because for what i now samsung fabrics he's one memory chips. I will dig more hopping to gather more informations.
The main question remains: Has anyone used the softwere LAGFIX with ascend P6 without any problems?
I found this, maybe you can make more sense of it.
i found more about the chipset:
savudragosh2 said:
i found more about the chipset:
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This seems interesting, it could aswell be an eMMC since it has ram inside the chip.
But something is wrong with the kernel of P6. Try Androbench and try taking the Micro test in there. I got only 20mb/s!!! (G2 and other devices get well over 110mb/s, hell, even the Galaxy S2 gets more than 2x faster rates!).
Highly possible that the chip needs TRIM, but unfortunately we have no way to enable it yet.
tauio111 said:
This seems interesting, it could aswell be an eMMC since it has ram inside the chip.
But something is wrong with the kernel of P6. Try Androbench and try taking the Micro test in there. I got only 20mb/s!!! (G2 and other devices get well over 110mb/s, hell, even the Galaxy S2 gets more than 2x faster rates!).
Highly possible that the chip needs TRIM, but unfortunately we have no way to enable it yet.
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For what i read a eMMc can be trim in 2 ways
First with a build in system suport like JB 4.3 or KK
Second with a build app like LAGFIX manually.
I want to try thos app but i can brick the phone. I am in mutch doubt.
I am confused about there policy because what are whe traing to understend is normal for a bettter performance and a musthave of a healty system beased on this type of memory for storage.
Sorry again for the gramatical mistakes.
I found a clasification table on samsung website and the chip is in thr lower class 100 suitable for poor quality smartphones with dual core.
Maybe here is the reason for the poor performance despite the quad ore and 2gb off RAM.
If you have time please do a search on samsung website for the cip. It is a pdf presentation but it is large and i cant uploded.
specifications of the KMVUS000LM memory chip.
I found some specifications (marked with red). If we have some other chip specifications like S3 or nexus 4 (phone close to performance too ourse) then we can figure out if it is poor performane chip or it is a bad made kernel.
Hope that someone can figure it out.
I runned the LAGFIX aplication afterall. Unfortunelly doesn't work on our device, because of bad kernel suport or hardwere. I runned also ANDROBENCH: and got a sequential read/write 26.9Mb/s / 6.38Mb/s. VEEEEEEEEEEEERY LOW compared with other devices.
I AM VERY DISSAPOINTED ABOUT HUAWEI. Very good specs on paper but dissaponting components/kernel support in reality.
When HUAWEI will release the source code you will be able to try any custom kernel, I'm sure someone will make one, there are a few already, but not so good due to HUAWEI's restriction.
ZuperStyler said:
When HUAWEI will release the source code you will be able to try any custom kernel, I'm sure someone will make one, there are a few already, but not so good due to HUAWEI's restriction.
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Thank you for the answer.
Do you think it is a kernel issue or a slow performance memory card?
savudragosh2 said:
Thank you for the answer.
Do you think it is a kernel issue or a slow performance memory card?
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Definitely a kernel issue
savudragosh2 said:
Thank you for the answer.
Do you think it is a kernel issue or a slow performance memory card?
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I also think that this is a kernel issue, appearantly their kernel includes tons of useless parts and tons of parts that dont work well.
But I dont think that a new kernel would make it much faster probably like ~50mb/s
tauio111 said:
I also think that this is a kernel issue, appearantly their kernel includes tons of useless parts and tons of parts that dont work well.
But I dont think that a new kernel would make it much faster probably like ~50mb/s
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Thank you for your asnwer,
I put a question in OMNIROM treath but no one answered. The question is: Has Omnirom (because in kitkat based) the suport of TRIM?
I asked you because i saw you use omnirom.
And another qiuestion: From what i saw huawei released the kernel source for B111. If it is such a bad kernel why did no one develope it?
savudragosh2 said:
Thank you for your asnwer,
I put a question in OMNIROM treath but no one answered. The question is: Has Omnirom (because in kitkat based) the suport of TRIM?
I asked you because i saw you use omnirom.
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It does not as I said before. We dont have the KitKat kernel source code yet.
savudragosh2 said:
And another qiuestion: From what i saw huawei released the kernel source for B111. If it is such a bad kernel why did no one develope it?
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surdu made a green kernel. We dont have any skilled kernel devs here + driver sourcecodes are still not released and probably wont be, without driver sourcecode, kernel version can't be updated and we will have to sit on 3.0.8 till the end, sadly.

Request for Cyanogenmod for MI 5s

Hi guys!
I'm not allowed to start a thread in the right place so I am posting here.
If you would like to have CyanogenMod for the Mi 5s, please make a post in this thread to show your interest: https://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/129973-request-cm-for-xiaomi-mi-5s/
Thanks
Pellets said:
Hi guys!
I'm not allowed to start a thread in the right place so I am posting here.
If you would like to have CyanogenMod for the Mi 5s, please make a post in this thread to show your interest:
Thanks
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Here's the link https://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/129973-request-cm-for-xiaomi-mi-5s/
I'm I the only one who is interested in Cyanogenmod for Mi 5s?
https://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/129973-request-cm-for-xiaomi-mi-5s/
Pellets said:
I'm I the only one who is interested in Cyanogenmod for Mi 5s?
https://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/129973-request-cm-for-xiaomi-mi-5s/
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Likely not, but why bother. If this device gets traction there will be CM for it but I'm prety sure that won't happen before Xiaomi releases source code. I dearly hope they do that soon, as I've hastily order a Mi 5S yesterday. I hope I'll be able to flash some closer to AOSP ROM as soon as possible. I'm pretty sure I don't really want to use MIUI as my daily driver. I'll surely use it until something better comes along and after I get Google Apps on it.
If someone eventually puts together a CM rom for this device I will try it of course. I try all Roms for whatever device I am on.
That said, I admit that MIUI is not only classy looking, but offers enough customization options to satisfy any modder - my opinion of course.
I have unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and the latest custom MIUI rom from here and rooted the device. I honestly don't feel like I'm missing anything with this device.
4gb ram, 128gb storage, Snapdragon 821! I easily get about 5.5 hrs sot.
I really like this device. I'm very satisfied.
dgrasley said:
If someone eventually puts together a CM rom for this device I will try it of course. I try all Roms for whatever device I am on.
That said, I admit that MIUI is not only classy looking, but offers enough customization options to satisfy any modder - my opinion of course.
I have unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and the latest custom MIUI rom from here and rooted the device. I honestly don't feel like I'm missing anything with this device.
4gb ram, 128gb storage, Snapdragon 821! I easily get about 5.5 hrs sot.
I really like this device. I'm very satisfied.
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Can you provide a link of the ROM you flashed which you refer to as ROM from here?
literadesign said:
Can you provide a link of the ROM you flashed which you refer to as ROM from here?
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http://miuif.celogeek.com/6.11.10/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5s/development/rom-xiaomi-eu-6-10-13-mi5s-mi5s-plus-t3480669 6.11.17 isn't available yet.
dgrasley said:
http://miuif.celogeek.com/6.11.10/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5s/development/rom-xiaomi-eu-6-10-13-mi5s-mi5s-plus-t3480669 6.11.17 isn't available yet.
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I'm also interested in CM for Mi5s
Me too interested but xiaomi havent released kernel source
Yes, very much needed !!!

New Mi 5S Plus - essential first steps

Hello,
I will getting the Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus tomorrow.
What are some of the first things I should be doing? I feel like I will not like the MIUI too much as I have used stock android on my old Nexus and more recently Cyanogen on my OPO. I plan to install Cyanogenmod on the phone as soon as they release it.
I believe I should do the following to prepare for that so that I do not need to start from scratch in the future (unsure of order and how to do it, some advice and guides here would be helpful, as well as an explanation of the purpose of each step):
- install custom recovery (I'm 99% certain I need to do this to install another ROM)
- root the phone (I don't think this is necessary, but allows me to do other things e.g. use Greenify)
- unlock bootloader (not sure what the purpose of this is)
Are there any other steps I should take?
Thanks in advance!
Unlock bootloader-twrp-miui eu rom - bingo
No need for greenify
Also ex Nexus use here
Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk
kojoti75 said:
Unlock bootloader-twrp-miui eu rom - bingo
No need for greenify
Also ex Nexus use here
Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk
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Can you please explain what you mean a bit more?
No need to root?
What is mi ui EU rom? I have intl version of the device (Hong Kong). Does this make a difference?
Thanks!
Without unlocking the bootloader, you can't install any custom recovery or custom ROM, just the official Xiaomi releases.
The eu version have less chinese apps and some minor changes compared to the global version. You can check the differences in their website.
Once you have unlocked the bootloader and install twrp, becoming root is pretty easy.
mtbkule said:
Without unlocking the bootloader, you can't install any custom recovery or custom ROM, just the official Xiaomi releases.
The eu version have less chinese apps and some minor changes compared to the global version. You can check the differences in their website.
Once you have unlocked the bootloader and install twrp, becoming root is pretty easy.
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I can't find any TWRP version for Xiaomi Mi5S Plus. Where can I find it?
kojoti75 said:
Unlock bootloader-twrp-miui eu rom - bingo
No need for greenify
Also ex Nexus use here
Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk
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I have Global Rom, is it different from MIUI EU ROM? Needed the change?
I live in Italy
Mi 5s Plus Forum
claudioita said:
I have Global Rom, is it different from MIUI EU ROM? Needed the change?
I live in Italy
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MIUI EU here
en.miui.com/forum-116-1.html
I also use Xiaomi EU. It works great. If you want the UI to look slightly more like a Nexus or Pixel try the "Pixel N" or "Android N" themes.
flipp0 said:
I also use Xiaomi EU. It works great. If you want the UI to look slightly more like a Nexus or Pixel try the "Pixel N" or "Android N" themes.
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Is it much better than the standard Rom?
Link?
Grillox said:
I can't find any TWRP version for Xiaomi Mi5S Plus. Where can I find it?
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It should be here:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224387312
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claudioita said:
I have Global Rom, is it different from MIUI EU ROM? Needed the change?
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If you are talking about xiaomi.eu, yes it's different.
It's based on official China ROM and as you can see the release of official Global ROM is lagging behind china rom for both mi5s versions. For example stable for Plus is 8.0.4.0 for Global (I guess just one release) while it's 8.2.2.0 for China.
It's cleaned from Chinese apps, it contains many European languages (including Italian) and gapps.
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claudioita said:
Is it much better than the standard Rom?
Link?
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https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/xiaomi-mi5s-plus.149/
I'm on 8.0.4.0 of Global Rom and I must admit that this is the first phone which makes me so satisfied. I'm gonna stay close to later products from Xiaomi as long as they keep doing this way. :laugh:
I don-t understand the different ROM-s.
I now have 8.0.4 Global Stable.
It seems tha a 8.2.2 Global Stable should come out since 20 February (but did not come out)
Then there is a 7.3.9 Global Beta released March 10
http://en.miui.com/thread-534687-1-1.html
But why Beta is a LOWER number (7.3.9 to 8.0.2)???????????
Very confusing
claudioita said:
I don-t understand the different ROM-s.
I now have 8.0.4 Global Stable.
It seems tha a 8.2.2 Global Stable should come out since 20 February (but did not come out)
Then there is a 7.3.9 Global Beta released March 10
http://en.miui.com/thread-534687-1-1.html
But why Beta is a LOWER number (7.3.9 to 8.0.2)???????????
Very confusing
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beta ver number show date of release year.month.day
hello guys. im am strongly considering buying this phone and i just wanted to know if you guys think its worth it to get the 6gb version or is 4gb ram more then enough? i do play alot of games of my phone but on my current one i never seem to use that much ram honestly. please give me your honest opinions
DrTorretz1 said:
hello guys. im am strongly considering buying this phone and i just wanted to know if you guys think its worth it to get the 6gb version or is 4gb ram more then enough? i do play alot of games of my phone but on my current one i never seem to use that much ram honestly. please give me your honest opinions
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4GB is a lot of Ram in my opinion.
Think if you need 64 or 128 of storage in your phonbe, and make your decision based on that.
As far as I know, for my usage (and I am a heavy user) 4GB of RAM is enough nowadays
I am on global ROM. I cannot send MMS picture messages! I have allowed permission in Gallery. Before vthat it said "unable to send as too many unsent multimedia messages", now it says failed after trying to send for a few minutes. Can anyone help. I have been on to my provider, 3 in Ireland and they say all VPN's correct and must be a otobky with the phone. Can someone help me please?
Siocha said:
I am on global ROM. I cannot send MMS picture messages! I have allowed permission in Gallery. Before vthat it said "unable to send as too many unsent multimedia messages", now it says failed after trying to send for a few minutes. Can anyone help. I have been on to my provider, 3 in Ireland and they say all VPN's correct and must be a otobky with the phone. Can someone help me please?
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I can't helop on the subject, there is a particular reason you send MMS, nowadays it seems surpassed by tons of apps that do a better job (whatsapp and the like)
Problem sending MMS picture messages on Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus
claudioita said:
I can't helop on the subject, there is a particular reason you send MMS, nowadays it seems surpassed by tons of apps that do a better job (whatsapp and the like)
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Thanks for trying to help. I have now resolved the problem!. The reason phone was not sending was because of 3G signal only at my home. When I tried in a 4G area not far from my location a picture message flew through. Many thanks re whats app .I use same and there is no difficulty sending pictures on it as I Have good broadband 240 megabytes boosted to almost double that with an Asus rt -87 u router and an Asus AC -66 extender. Regards!

Huawei variants hardware PAR-LX9 and PAR-LX1M

hello guyz i'm glad to start the first thread of dev thinking about the Nova 3 device
here in middle east (Egypt/KSA) we've got Nova 3 with 4GB ram
i wonder what if we flashed the PAR-LX9 rom on PAR-LX1M device, is that may release the hidden ram to be 6 gb of ram
Huawei used to use the same hardware to all variants and hide/release spects as the marketing needs.
How?
Is it even possible!.. yeah i've been wondering why do we have the 4 gb variant while others have the 6 gb for the same money i guess!. And why would the company lower it's specs on the paper!
I actually own the chinese version (version PAR-AL00) 128GB + 6GB RAM, but I'm interested in enabling the NFC, since it's available for version PAR-LX1 (see official spec, section NFC).
If we find a way to unlock the bootloader (as of now I haven't found a way), then maybe we can somehow merge the firmware from PAR-LX1 (enable NFC) with firmware from PAR-AL00 (enable 6GB RAM)!
Any idea?
aymanshow said:
Huawei used to use the same hardware to all variants and hide/release spects as the marketing needs.
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Wow. Are you sure about this?
krkuz said:
I actually own the chinese version (version PAR-AL00) 128GB + 6GB RAM, but I'm interested in enabling the NFC, since it's available for version PAR-LX1 (see official spec, section NFC).
If we find a way to unlock the bootloader (as of now I haven't found a way), then maybe we can somehow merge the firmware from PAR-LX1 (enable NFC) with firmware from PAR-AL00 (enable 6GB RAM)!
Any idea?
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Can anyone confirm?
i think it's not possible because hardware cant be changed /upgraded or manipulated with software IMO
tarekh020 said:
i think it's not possible because hardware cant be changed /upgraded or manipulated with software IMO
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I think OP's point is that a larger RAM is present in the device hardware, but it is being hidden by software?
Supersonic27543 said:
I think OP's point is that a larger RAM is present in the device hardware, but it is being hidden by software?
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I don't believe so because its a big selling point
aymanshow said:
hello guyz i'm glad to start the first thread of dev thinking about the Nova 3 device
here in middle east (Egypt/KSA) we've got Nova 3 with 4GB ram
i wonder what if we flashed the PAR-LX9 rom on PAR-LX1M device, is that may release the hidden ram to be 6 gb of ram
Huawei used to use the same hardware to all variants and hide/release spects as the marketing needs.
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How can flash PAR-LX9 rom on PAR-LX1M device. Please make a thread about how to flash PAR-LX9 to PAR-LX1M?

will 4gb phone's Custom ROMs work on 6gb rom phones?

Hi,
1. Will 4gb phone's Custom ROMs work on 6gb rom phones?
2. Is the display giving pwm flickering?
harigavara said:
Hi,
1. Will 4gb phone's Custom ROMs work on 6gb rom phones?
2. Is the display giving pwm flickering?
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2/3/4/6 it dont matter thats idependent. of course more ram phone will run more apps in background.

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