After taking the APH1 update on my phone, I can no longer downgrade to PG5, and I also can't flash the PG9 U firmware. I don't know what Samsung/Verizon did, but it's ridiculous.
I'm now stuck on the APH1 firmware and can't get on the U firmware at all.
I haven't tried rooting, but there is no Odin firmware for APH1 yet, so I'm not going to try until there is, so that if I mess up my phone I can fix it.
FoxyDrew said:
After taking the APH1 update on my phone, I can no longer downgrade to PG5, and I also can't flash the PG9 U firmware. I don't know what Samsung/Verizon did, but it's ridiculous.
I'm now stuck on the APH1 firmware and can't get on the U firmware at all.
I haven't tried rooting, but there is no Odin firmware for APH1 yet, so I'm not going to try until there is, so that if I mess up my phone I can fix it.
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It probably incremented the bootloader. I upgraded to it because I am just losing interest in root all together. Somebody will chime in with a more technical explanation.
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It probably incremented the bootloader. I upgraded to it because I am just losing interest in root all together. Somebody will chime in with a more technical explanation.
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Agreed. For some reason I just don't really care about rooting the S7. Maybe I've just rooted too many phones and lost interest.
nynativ said:
Agreed. For some reason I just don't really care about rooting the S7. Maybe I've just rooted too many phones and lost interest.
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For me a lot of it is this is not the most conventional root, not very stable for me and battery life suffered a lot compared to stock, and flashing U firmware has not been very cooperative for me.
So thoughts.... I am on the latest U firmware on my 930V. Should I consider flashing back to the stock Verizon rom? Everything is working great. I do plan on jumping ship from Verizon in the next year or so. I am blown away at how well this phone runs stock and only flashed the U in preparation to take it to another carrier afterwards. Is this a bad idea?
Tried to live with root, but the battery and stability was horrible. Now, I am using the engboot to do any data back up or restore tasks in TiBU then flashing the AP again to unroot. Data is maintained, but now I have to live with ads. I use adguard, by it feel like it hurts battery life. Will try and quantify that soon.
Being able to count on my phone to make a call and hold a charge is too important to me. Rooting the phone to set it up after a reset saves me time. Unfortunately, rooting with our current method is too prohibitive for daily use.
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Agreed. For some reason I just don't really care about rooting the S7. Maybe I've just rooted too many phones and lost interest.
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Same here.
I have a 930U that I use on Verizon. I use the 930V firmware because I like having visual Voicemail. I have rooted 3 different times and gone back to stock everytime. I suppose it because of the engineering kernel but root with the S7 is just not stable. The battery life sucks and you have to do so many things to fix the lag it has just become not worth it. Also the 2 latest updates from Verizon have been good on battery. I do like not having Verizon logos all over my phone.
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I have a 930U that I use on Verizon. I use the 930V firmware because I like having visual Voicemail. I have rooted 3 different times and gone back to stock everytime. I suppose it because of the engineering kernel but root with the S7 is just not stable. The battery life sucks and you have to do so many things to fix the lag it has just become not worth it. Also the 2 latest updates from Verizon have been good on battery. I do like not having Verizon logos all over my phone.
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Give stang5liter rom a whirl. Been on it since it was released and have no issues besides nearby devices not working for me.
craazy82013 said:
Give stang5liter rom a whirl. Been on it since it was released and have no issues besides nearby devices not working for me.
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Been using the same ROM for almost a week with xposed and everything is fine. I feel great without seeing the ads again. haha! BTW, I didn't try the nearby devices so no comment on that.
I have the G930V and am running APH1 with root no problems. The lag was horrendous but after changing the CPU governor to "interactive" on BOTH CPU's (little and BIG) it's been running smooth. I'll run like this for a bit... but stang5liter looks like it will be my next move.
Has anyone with ph1 tried flashing another rom such as stang5litre?
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I have the G930V and am running APH1 with root no problems. The lag was horrendous but after changing the CPU governor to "interactive" on BOTH CPU's (little and BIG) it's been running smooth. I'll run like this for a bit... but stang5liter looks like it will be my next move.
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So how did you root if you can't downgrade like the OP stated?
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Has anyone with ph1 tried flashing another rom such as stang5litre?
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Yes it works just fine.
bart77 said:
So how did you root if you can't downgrade like the OP stated?
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PH1 doesn't break root. You just can't downgrade to older firmware's or flash any U firmware's. PH1 is still completely rootable.
So you can't Odin flash back to a stock image if you get in trouble or want to unroot. I guess I'll stay on PG5 for now.
I'm not rooted now, but was able to disable system update notifications using
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.packagedisabler
By disabling:
System updates (com.samsung.sdm)
System updates (com.samsung.sdmviewer)
and securitylogagent
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PH1 doesn't break root. You just can't downgrade to older firmware's or flash any U firmware's. PH1 is still completely rootable.
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Thanks @FoxyDrew for clarifying that... and I agree.
I used the following GUIDE to root APH1 on my S7 Flat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/verizon-root-knox-t3410624
Im somewhat confused. Your saying you cant downgrade from ph1. Are you talking only with odin? Reason i ask is stang5litre rom is APE1. And as was stated a few posts up, this rom can be flashed on rooted APH1. Which would take you back to APE1. Therefor downgradable? Any help is appreciated.
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Im somewhat confused. Your saying you cant downgrade from ph1. Are you talking only with odin? Reason i ask is stang5litre rom is APE1. And as was stated a few posts up, this rom can be flashed on rooted APH1. Which would take you back to APE1. Therefor downgradable? Any help is appreciated.
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Ph1 upgrades the boot image therefore you cannot Odin flash back to stock pe1 which is the older boot image.
You can still root and flash stang5litre which is the pe1 rom, but you still have the ph1 boot image.
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bart77 said:
Ph1 upgrades the boot image therefore you cannot Odin flash back to stock pe1 which is the older boot image.
You can still root and flash stang5litre which is the pe1 rom, but you still have the ph1 boot image. So if something goes wrong, you have no means of recovery back to stock since there is no ph1 stock Odin image.
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The ph1 image is available at this link (http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=78F84FCD811E11E69B2DFA163EE8F90B). I have flashed with these files and they work perfect.
Seems bootloader was uograded to version 3. So may be possible to flash between tmo and vzw and vice versa. Both now have v3 bootloader.
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Hey all,
I caught wind of the 4.4.2 update, so I decided to see how it is. I had used saferoot to gain root access to it, but all I did was use Xposed to modify my phone. No recoveries or anything, and the warranty bit is 0 on the download mode screen. Just to be safe, I wiped data/factory reset to make sure everything was gone, then I started the OTA download. All goes as it should until it reboots to install it, where it gets stuck at 25%, then says "update failed". Phone reboots, and then a window pops up saying the update was interrupted. Anyone else having this issue? Anyone know any workarounds? Because if this phone just won't update, there it no reason for my to keep my warranty bit, since I have less than a week on the warranty left anyhow.
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Hey all,
I caught wind of the 4.4.2 update, so I decided to see how it is. I had used saferoot to gain root access to it, but all I did was use Xposed to modify my phone. No recoveries or anything, and the warranty bit is 0 on the download mode screen. Just to be safe, I wiped data/factory reset to make sure everything was gone, then I started the OTA download. All goes as it should until it reboots to install it, where it gets stuck at 25%, then says "update failed". Phone reboots, and then a window pops up saying the update was interrupted. Anyone else having this issue? Anyone know any workarounds? Because if this phone just won't update, there it no reason for my to keep my warranty bit, since I have less than a week on the warranty left anyhow.
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Did you try re-downloading it?
BWolf56 said:
Did you try re-downloading it?
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This is my 3rd attempt to re-download it. It's currently at 94%, so I'll let you know how it goes.
TH3F4LL3N said:
This is my 3rd attempt to re-download it. It's currently at 94%, so I'll let you know how it goes.
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After my 3rd attempt, without my sd card inserted this time, the update failed again! This is starting to get irritating. Maybe I should just flash CM11 or something like that.
TH3F4LL3N said:
After my 3rd attempt, without my sd card inserted this time, the update failed again! This is starting to get irritating. Maybe I should just flash CM11 or something like that.
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It's kinda odd that it still fails after so many downloads (and so close to being complete).
If there's only a week left to your warranty, you can start looking at custom ROM you might like (AOSP or TW). By the time you find one you really like and understand how to flash it (without any issue), you will have time to give the OTA another shot. Will be some good knowledge reading in the meantime
Little advice: Don't flash a custom ROM while annoyed/mad. That's how 80% of bricks happen.
BWolf56 said:
It's kinda odd that it still fails after so many downloads (and so close to being complete).
If there's only a week left to your warranty, you can start looking at custom ROM you might like (AOSP or TW). By the time you find one you really like and understand how to flash it (without any issue), you will have time to give the OTA another shot. Will be some good knowledge reading in the meantime
Little advice: Don't flash a custom ROM while annoyed/mad. That's how 80% of bricks happen.
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Ok thanks for the advice, mate. I heard if I take it to Best Buy, they can update it. Do you know if it's free?
TH3F4LL3N said:
Ok thanks for the advice, mate. I heard if I take it to Best Buy, they can update it. Do you know if it's free?
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Imo it should be but you can always give them a call to make sure.
Just make sure you aren't rooted when going there lol.
BWolf56 said:
Imo it should be but you can always give them a call to make sure.
Just make sure you aren't rooted when going there lol.
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Haha I know the basics of rooting. If I go, my phone will be the way it is right now: stuck on stock 4.3 with nothing on it but the bloatware from Sammy and AT&T
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Haha I know the basics of rooting. If I go, my phone will be the way it is right now: stuck on stock 4.3 with nothing on it but the bloatware from Sammy and AT&T
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I just noticed that the device status is custom, even though I've wiped data. Is that what is causing this trouble? If so, is there a way to fix it?
Yea when you modify the system at all it trips the modified flag and that's probably where its failing (not the warranty bit flag that's at 0 but the one that's in the system itself) try to Odin to full stock and try it again this should revert it back to official
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TH3F4LL3N said:
I just noticed that the device status is custom, even though I've wiped data. Is that what is causing this trouble? If so, is there a way to fix it?
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You need to run Triangle Away whiule rooted to change it back to official
audit13 said:
You need to run Triangle Away whiule rooted to change it back to official
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Will this work for 4.3?
I never tried it on 4.3, only on 4.1.2. Since you have Knox, rooting and installing SU may trip the knox counter. Did you try uninstalling Xposed and running the update?
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I just noticed that the device status is custom, even though I've wiped data. Is that what is causing this trouble? If so, is there a way to fix it?
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Yea when you modify the system at all it trips the modified flag and that's probably where its failing (not the warranty bit flag that's at 0 but the one that's in the system itself) try to Odin to full stock and try it again this should revert it back to official
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One thing, don't downgrade bootloaders doing so. That will result in a brick.
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I never tried it on 4.3, only on 4.1.2. Since you have Knox, rooting and installing SU may trip the knox counter. Did you try uninstalling Xposed and running the update?
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I have, and I've wiped the phone at least 3 or 4 times!
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One thing, don't downgrade bootloaders doing so. That will result in a brick.
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How would I go about this? I have the stock 4.1.1 tar file, and I can't get the 4.3 file because AT&T's update was OTA only, and I can't find the 4.3 tar file anywhere!
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I have, and I've wiped the phone at least 3 or 4 times!
How would I go about this? I have the stock 4.1.1 tar file, and I can't get the 4.3 file because AT&T's update was OTA only, and I can't find the 4.3 tar file anywhere!
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Is your current baseband LK3? If so, 4.1.1 should be fine.
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Is your current baseband LK3? If so, 4.1.1 should be fine.
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I am in the about device section of the settings, and it says the baseband version is I747UCUEMJB. Is this the right one?
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I am in the about device section of the settings, and it says the baseband version is I747UCUEMJB. Is this the right one?
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That would be the 4.3. You can't downgrade from those bootloaders. Therefor, you need stock 4.3
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That would be the 4.3. You can't downgrade from those bootloaders.
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Well that's just great. I'm stuck on 4.3. Could I possibly flash something like CM11 to get to kitkat? Of course, I'd like to back up the stock rom in case something goes wrong, but it would be wonderful if I could use CM on my phone again! I used the saferoot method to gain root access in the first place, which disabled KNOX if that means anything.
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Well that's just great. I'm stuck on 4.3. Could I possibly flash something like CM11 to get to kitkat? Of course, I'd like to back up the stock rom in case something goes wrong, but it would be wonderful if I could use CM on my phone again! I used the saferoot method to gain root access in the first place, which disabled KNOX if that means anything.
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Yes you can, it's fairly simple too. Just gotta follow their instructions (don't skip anything).
As for recovery, I recommend TWRP, which you can get on the Play Store.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10." Dazzling White 16GB Wifi + LTE (both in one).
Which "version" as in SM-T8xxx) should I be looking for? What's the highest possible Android version for it atm? 5.1 yet? Are there Gapps to install? Last time I tried to remove some Samsung stuff, my Gapps stopped working completely.
I would really like to keep this device rooted and up to date with as little bloatware as possible.
Also, is it possible to return to stock and unroot, to make it look as if you never rooted it? If so, is there a download link somewhere?
Thanks in advance.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10." Dazzling White 16GB Wifi + LTE (both in one).
Which "version" as in SM-T8xxx) should I be looking for? What's the highest possible Android version for it atm? 5.1 yet? Are there Gapps to install? Last time I tried to remove some Samsung stuff, my Gapps stopped working completely.
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Settings/general/about device and you will see SM-T8XX. The highest version depends on your device number and stock/custom but generally Samsung is only up to 5.0.2 max amd some parts of the world do not even have that for an OTA update (www.sammobile.com will have listed the latest official firmware). 5.1 only for some custom roms. As for gaps that is why I tend to go with roms stock or other wise pre debloted by ppl on here instead of messing with it myself too much annoyance trying to figure out what is safe to get rid of and what is not, but having a backup is always a great idea.
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Also, is it possible to return to stock and unroot, to make it look as if you never rooted it? If so, is there a download link somewhidea
Thanks in advance.
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Yes you can go back to stock and yes you can unroot, but no it will always look like you did something since there is no way to flash without tripping knox.
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Settings/general/about device and you will see SM-T8XX. The highest version depends on your device number and stock/custom but generally Samsung is only up to 5.0.2 max amd some parts of the world do not even have that for an OTA update sammobile.com will have listed the latest official firmware). 5.1 only for some custom roms. As for gaps that is why I tend to go with roms stock or other wise pre debloted by ppl on here instead of messing with it myself too much annoyance trying to figure out what is safe to get rid of and what is not, but having a backup is always a great idea.
Yes you can go back to stock and yes you can unroot, but no it will always look like you did something since there is no way to flash without tripping knox.
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I basically rooted the stock 5.0.2, flashed twrp, removed some programs, and restored them again since Gapps were crashing after removal. I just want to put it back how it all was, so I am eligible for OTA's again.
I honestly have no clue if just flashing the stock firmware will set you to being eligible to reciece ota updates. You should always make a backup befpre flashing anything for the exact reason of what happened to you. But saying that www.Sammobile.com does have the stock firmware that you can download.
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I honestly have no clue if just flashing the stock firmware will set you to being eligible to reciece ota updates. You should always make a backup befpre flashing anything for the exact reason of what happened to you. But saying that Sammobile.com does have the stock firmware that you can download.
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15kb/s download speed ftw. Do they really expect you to pay €7,50 to download the file in less than 10 hours? I'll leave it on while I sleep.
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15kb/s download speed ftw. Do they really expect you to pay €7,50 to download the file in less than 10 hours? I'll leave it on while I sleep.
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Woah. I use sammobile and it only takes 2-3 hours. I'm on free account too
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15kb/s download speed ftw. Do they really expect you to pay €7,50 to download the file in less than 10 hours? I'll leave it on while I sleep.
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Free is still free.
Soothingkiss said:
I basically rooted the stock 5.0.2, flashed twrp, removed some programs, and restored them again since Gapps were crashing after removal. I just want to put it back how it all was, so I am eligible for OTA's again.
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Yes, I examined an OTA's script for the Nexus 10 and it does a check sum validation on a large number of apps before it will apply the update. If any of the check sums fail the update is aborted. That means if you remove or alter any of the files/apps being checked the OTA cannot be applied but if you have added files/apps that then those changes are ignored and you will have the OTA applied. Rooting adds files. I suspect that all Android OTAs work the same as they do directly from Google (Nexus devices).
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you can download from mega at this site http://megafirmware.blogspot.com/
I just converted my retail Note 4 to Dev Ed, but was wondering why I can't use stock kernel on a rooted stock Rom or even custom stock rom?
I tried installing the stock kernel from the official firmware thread and maybe misunderstood that it can be used on the dev edition, but maybe there is reason why?
The stock Retail Verizon Note 4 kernal doesn't support the unlocked bootloader so you need to install one that is compatible. The reason is because Verizon wants to charge you extra for a Developer Edition so they don't waste time and money putting support in for it.
To be honest the kernel that I flashed while unlocking device is much better . My battery life if finally back to normal I get approximately 5:30 screen on time while I used to get like 2:30-3
Why should Verizon pay for support if someone f's their phone up because they had no clue to what they were doing. If it was your company, you woukd be in it to make money and not lose it! Stop complaining about Verizon, you knew everything before you signed the contract and agreed to be a part of their services. That's just MHO of course.
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I don't know why everyone is saying the stock kernel & stock ROM won't work with the bootloader unlock, because they're working fine for me.
Running a rooted stock ROM with the stock kernel right now.
outcasted2003 said:
Why should Verizon pay for support if someone f's their phone up because they had no clue to what they were doing. If it was your company, you woukd be in it to make money and not lose it! Stop complaining about Verizon, you knew everything before you signed the contract and agreed to be a part of their services. That's just MHO of course.
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What does this have to do worth the thread or any of the replys?
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It will work with unlocked bootloader and twrp but not worth root.
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Did you mean not WITH root?
Because again, I'm rooted right now. No issues.
blindmanpb said:
Did you mean not WITH root?
Because again, I'm rooted right now. No issues.
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I didn't read the post all the way before posting. Thats why I deleted it.
Every time I install stock kernel I get a bootloop on the verizon screen.
Yeah, I never had any issues with TWRP or root.
The only thing that I might have done differently than everyone else is that after achieving the bootloader unlock, I flashed a stripped down version of the stock firmware (boot, recovery, system, cache, and modem ONLY) to make sure I was 100% KingRoot free, then wiped cache and data.
Only issue I've run into on the stock ROM is that if you delete Facebook or Instagram it breaks screen rotation. Freezing them is fine, though.
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Just realized I'm still sitting on build BOG5 / 5.0.1, that might be why. I think it's only people on BPA1 / 5.1.1 that are having issues with that.
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I didn't read the post all the way before posting. Thats why I deleted it.
Every time I install stock kernel I get a bootloop on the verizon screen.
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As stated above, it will not work at the kernel doesn't support unlocked bootloader. I had the same issue until I flashed a custom kernel.
My N4 performs well with this multi-system kernel Courtesy of @hsbadr:
Hello all. I recently spent 5+ hours rooting and turning my VZW Note 4 into a "developer" phone. I've rooted a lot of phones, but this particular process had me pretty frustrated. I had several problems with the software versions I was using. Anyway, I'm curious if I should upgrade just my modem firmware to the latest included in VZW's 6.0.1 release. On my old Android devices, I used to do this with great success. Signal strenght would increase (or worsen), GPS signal would be better, etc. Is this included in ROMS and/or is it safe to do this?
Oh man,lol don't tell me that. I just bought a note 4 off swappa and it'll be here wendsday probably. I have been wanting a note 4 for along time. Only reason why I never got it was because of root and BL being locked down. Now that there is custom roms & kernels I bought it and can't wait to get it. Is it really that bad to Root and BL unlock? If it took you that long it'll take me days because I work 12hr job 7 days a week. I'm just trying to find all the necessary files I need to download now that way that will be done with.
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Hello all. I recently spent 5+ hours rooting and turning my VZW Note 4 into a "developer" phone. I've rooted a lot of phones, but this particular process had me pretty frustrated. I had several problems with the software versions I was using. Anyway, I'm curious if I should upgrade just my modem firmware to the latest included in VZW's 6.0.1 release. On my old Android devices, I used to do this with great success. Signal strenght would increase (or worsen), GPS signal would be better, etc. Is this included in ROMS and/or is it safe to do this?
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Look in @hsbadr's Jasmine ROM thread. There's a partial firmware to flash that will update both the bootloader and the modem to PF3, which is the latest and greatest. It's required if you want to use Jasmine 7.0 or @chevyrhoad's Grace 7 ROMs.
mwebb34 said:
Oh man,lol don't tell me that. I just bought a note 4 off swappa and it'll be here wendsday probably. I have been wanting a note 4 for along time. Only reason why I never got it was because of root and BL being locked down. Now that there is custom roms & kernels I bought it and can't wait to get it. Is it really that bad to Root and BL unlock? If it took you that long it'll take me days because I work 12hr job 7 days a week. I'm just trying to find all the necessary files I need to download now that way that will be done with.
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It's a matter of being familiar with the tools. The process is pretty rudimentary. If you have a knowledge of linux and/or abd you'll be fine. I had trouble when my phone decided to start boot looping. Turns out it skipped my mind to wipe the cache/data clean after a stock odin flash. After all is said and done, the process is fairly simple. Also, King Root is a big issue. If you dump a fresh ROM from odin onto your device, install King Root, and attempt to root it it will root successfully everytime, the first time. On some other ROMs it can give you a considerable amount of trouble. I recommend resetting your lollipop to defaults, rooting it, flashing to the 5.1.1/6.0.1 hybrid, rooting again, and then continue about your business. There's a certain set of steps that makes this process painless which you can only ascertain if you have done it.
douger1957 said:
Look in @hsbadr's Jasmine ROM thread. There's a partial firmware to flash that will update both the bootloader and the modem to PF3, which is the latest and greatest. It's required if you want to use Jasmine 7.0 or @chevyrhoad's Grace 7 ROMs.
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Can I flash "N910VVRU2CPF3_PartialFirmware_PatechedKernel.tar.md5" from his thread overtop of my TRWM and CM 13 ROM? I have both installed, and I'm wondering if I can just boot into the bootloader and odin this to the phone. CM 13 supports it, so why not? I'm just worried about it a kernel malfunction.
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It's a matter of being familiar with the tools. The process is pretty rudimentary. If you have a knowledge of linux and/or abd you'll be fine. I had trouble when my phone decided to start boot looping. Turns out it skipped my mind to wipe the cache/data clean after a stock odin flash. After all is said and done, the process is fairly simple. Also, King Root is a big issue. If you dump a fresh ROM from odin onto your device, install King Root, and attempt to root it it will root successfully everytime, the first time. On some other ROMs it can give you a considerable amount of trouble. I recommend resetting your lollipop to defaults, rooting it, flashing to the 5.1.1/6.0.1 hybrid, rooting again, and then continue about your business. There's a certain set of steps that makes this process painless which you can only ascertain if you have done it.
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I will absolutely take you're advice on this and apply it as soon as I get my note 4. Should be receiving it in about 3 or 4 days.
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Can I flash "N910VVRU2CPF3_PartialFirmware_PatechedKernel.tar.md5" from his thread overtop of my TRWM and CM 13 ROM? I have both installed, and I'm wondering if I can just boot into the bootloader and odin this to the phone. CM 13 supports it, so why not? I'm just worried about it a kernel malfunction.
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To the best of my knowledge, it does nothing to the kernel. All it does is upgrade the modem.
Hi if anyone can help- I'm on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 after 2 Note 7's and a Note 3 before that on Biggin's so I've sorta been out of the root game. I want to downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1. I am downloading the full firmware for the Note 4 from further back in this thread (N910VVRU2CPA1) and am currently on (N910VVRU2CPG2).
From what I understand, I need to do a factory reset, then go to Odin and flash the firmware. I have Odin 3.10.7 and am downloading the N910VVRU2CPA1 as we speak. I see 'hsbadr' firmwares in his thread and the PIT file TRLTE_USA_VZW.pit which I'm not sure is compatable pit file for the specific 5.1.1 firmware or the necessary pit file is included in the full firmware and can anyone tell me if these are the right steps?are these the right steps Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks
@tjmethod by chance how did you process go, did you manage to root and unlock bootloader?
djisback said:
@tjmethod by chance how did you process go, did you manage to root and unlock bootloader?
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I bought the phone already with 6.0.1 on it and read that you cannot unlock/ root it with mm on it and can only be done after downgrading to 5.1.1 so I haven't done anything yet
I'm in the same boat...Coming from a n7. Bought a n4 on eBay...It's got 601. Want to root...Guess we need to downgrade....Is it possible?
tjmethod said:
Hi if anyone can help- I'm on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 after 2 Note 7's and a Note 3 before that on Biggin's so I've sorta been out of the root game. I want to downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1. I am downloading the full firmware for the Note 4 from further back in this thread (N910VVRU2CPA1) and am currently on (N910VVRU2CPG2).
From what I understand, I need to do a factory reset, then go to Odin and flash the firmware. I have Odin 3.10.7 and am downloading the N910VVRU2CPA1 as we speak. I see 'hsbadr' firmwares in his thread and the PIT file TRLTE_USA_VZW.pit which I'm not sure is compatable pit file for the specific 5.1.1 firmware or the necessary pit file is included in the full firmware and can anyone tell me if these are the right steps?are these the right steps Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks
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sudermatt said:
I'm in the same boat...Coming from a n7. Bought a n4 on eBay...It's got 601. Want to root...Guess we need to downgrade....Is it possible?
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Before you can start rooting, you'll need to be on 5.1.1 BPA1. If you're currently on 6.0.1, just download the BPA1 firmware from Sammobile, factory reset on 6.0.1, then flash BPA1 stock via Odin.
quinciebee said:
Before you can start rooting, you'll need to be on 5.1.1 BPA1. If you're currently on 6.0.1, just download the BPA1 firmware from Sammobile, factory reset on 6.0.1, then flash BPA1 stock via Odin.
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Hi thanks, I had called Samsung and talked to top tier tech support and was told that once the phone has been upgraded to 6.0.1., it cannot be downgraded. and that i need to search the rooting sites and try to find where someone has found a breach or workaround for unlocking the bootloader which will usually have a bounty but I dont know. top tier tech support has always been good. Do you think thats false it cannot be downgraded?
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Hi thanks, I had called Samsung and talked to top tier tech support and was told that once the phone has been upgraded to 6.0.1., it cannot be downgraded. and that i need to search the rooting sites and try to find where someone has found a breach or workaround for unlocking the bootloader which will usually have a bounty but I dont know. top tier tech support has always been good. Do you think thats false it cannot be downgraded?
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It's definitely false, when I rooted my phone, I downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 without any issues.
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It's definitely false, when I rooted my phone, I downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 without any issues.
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I will definately give it a go when I have the time, have you flashed a rom and if so which one, there must be some or some tweaks to get rid of the lag?
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I will definately give it a go when I have the time, have you flashed a rom and if so which one, there must be some or some tweaks to get rid of the lag?
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I'm currently using CM13 because of Xposed and overall stability, but there are newer roms out there.
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I'm currently using CM13 because of Xposed and overall stability, but there are newer roms out there.
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I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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You want the PA1. It's really easy. Just sounds more complicated then it is. I am using the PaulPizz rom. It is very stable, good battery life, and spen and sview work. If you need any help, let me know.
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You want the PA1. It's really easy. Just sounds more complicated then it is. I am using the PaulPizz rom. It is very stable, good battery life, and spen and sview work. If you need any help, let me know.
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Thanks bro I don't if I'll have time til this weekend to do this- Does this rom have tweaks to fix the aggravating galaxy lag? With a non rooted phone there's goin into recovery and deleting cache, DU speed and phone booster, cleaned but it's like they all have it- thanks again- lookin forward to rooting this damn thing
tjmethod said:
I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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Yeah they're out there but that thread hasn't been updated recently. Basically the order after pf3 is pg2, pj2, and then cpl1. The one you want, if your planning on rooting, is bpa1. Also, as far as your question in the op about the pit file, it should really only be used if absolutely necessary. It's in case your partitions have been corrupted for some reason and you need to repartition your device.
Edit- I was going to link to those other firmwares but they are buried in the thread that your already looking in. Either way they aren't necessary for you to unlock your bootloader, you can go straight from cpl1 to bpa1.
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Yeah they're out there but that thread hasn't been updated recently. Basically the order after pf3 is pg2, pj2, and then cpl1. The one you want, if your planning on rooting, is bpa1. Also, as far as your question in the op about the pit file, it should really only be used if absolutely necessary. It's in case your partitions have been corrupted for some reason and you need to repartition your device.
Edit- I was going to link to those other firmwares but they are buried in the thread that your already looking in. Either way they aren't necessary for you to unlock your bootloader, you can go straight from cpl1 to bpa1.
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Hey thanks for confirming all this. So all I need to download and install is the bpa1 firmware via Oden with the AP button I think- I've got a few different versions of Oden on my pc. It's been a while since I've flashed firmware on a phone but I remember it was easy. So just save my pictures, any files, etc. on the sd card, remove it, then do a factory reset or when I put the setting into usb download mode, and flash the firmware this will automatically factory reset the phone? Also earlier today Verizon has been trying to push an software upgrade. After I unlock the bootloader and install twrp then flash a rom, do I need to somehow disable the update notice. I remember having to do that once with another phone.
What rom are you on? Thanks again for the Info-
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hey thanks for confirming all this. So all I need to download and install is the bpa1 firmware via Oden with the AP button I think- I've got a few different versions of Oden on my pc. It's been a while since I've flashed firmware on a phone but I remember it was easy. So just save my pictures, any files, etc. on the sd card, remove it, then do a factory reset or when I put the setting into usb download mode, and flash the firmware this will automatically factory reset the phone? Also earlier today Verizon has been trying to push an software upgrade. After I unlock the bootloader and install twrp then flash a rom, do I need to somehow disable the update notice. I remember having to do that once with another phone.
What rom are you on? Thanks again for the Info-
TJ
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Yeah that all sounds spot on. I would definitely do the factory reset before you start, but other than that your good. To block the updates, you can uninstall the SDM apps. There are 2 of those and you'll need root to remove them, but you can disable them without root with that debloater tool. The rom I'm currently using is kind of work in progress. I have a couple stock based roms in the dev section, one is stock_plus that has a stock feel with some mods added and the other is Modest Rom that is got some grace apps added and system ui mods. You can find them here and here if you want to check them out.
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Yeah that all sounds spot on. I would definitely do the factory reset before you start, but other than that your good. To block the updates, you can uninstall the SDM apps. There are 2 of those and you'll need root to remove them, but you can disable them without root with that debloater tool. The rom I'm currently using is kind of work in progress. I have a couple stock based roms in the dev section, one is stock_plus that has a stock feel with some mods added and the other is Modest Rom that is got some grace apps added and system ui mods. You can find them here and here if you want to check them out.
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Awesome, I'm going to check those out but I forgot the biggest question of all... how to get rid of the Galaxy lag- is there a rom or tweak where this can be fixed since recovery cache delete and cleaning tools dont really do much?
Thanks again-
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Awesome, I'm going to check those out but I forgot the biggest question of all... how to get rid of the Galaxy lag- is there a rom or tweak where this can be fixed since recovery cache delete and cleaning tools dont really do much?
Thanks again-
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Custom kernels help a lot. The problem is it's kind of slim pickings for our specific model, but some of the international kernels work well too. Oscar kernel is made for the 910v so that's probably the most reliable but if your like me, I like to use a permissive kernel and Ram kernel is not a bad choice for that though it's not as feature rich.
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Custom kernels help a lot. The problem is it's kind of slim pickings for our specific model, but some of the international kernels work well too. Oscar kernel is made for the 910v so that's probably the most reliable but if your like me, I like to use a permissive kernel and Ram kernel is not a bad choice for that though it's not as feature rich.
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I really dont know the difference... from what I remember a kernel is the layer between the software and the hardware- a key component of the os. I'm guessing the permissive ones can be used for different roms or firmware? You can probably tell I really don't that much about the root game. The last time I flashed a firmware was on my note 3 after I bricked it. Then rerooted and got on to biggins rom which was great ut I never understood or learned how to use xposed. Anyway, I downloaded Modest Rom, PJ2 _STOCK .tar and am downloading cpl1_tar but I know that once I flash bpa1 firmware which puts the phone back on 5.1.1. I see your roms are 6.0.1 roms, after I flash the bpa1, will the bootloader be unlocked? If so can I then just flash the cpla1_tar or is that not a full firmware? or use one of the two 6.0.1 firmwares from where I found the cpa1? Are the kernels different from 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 and where to find the downloads?? I appreciate the tips especially coming from a develpoer and i'm happy to make a donation- I'm not sure how?
Thanks again!
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I really dont know the difference... from what I remember a kernel is the layer between the software and the hardware- a key component of the os. I'm guessing the permissive ones can be used for different roms or firmware? You can probably tell I really don't that much about the root game. The last time I flashed a firmware was on my note 3 after I bricked it. Then rerooted and got on to biggins rom which was great ut I never understood or learned how to use xposed. Anyway, I downloaded Modest Rom, PJ2 _STOCK .tar and am downloading cpl1_tar but I know that once I flash bpa1 firmware which puts the phone back on 5.1.1. I see your roms are 6.0.1 roms, after I flash the bpa1, will the bootloader be unlocked? If so can I then just flash the cpla1_tar or is that not a full firmware? or use one of the two 6.0.1 firmwares from where I found the cpa1? Are the kernels different from 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 and where to find the downloads?? I appreciate the tips especially coming from a develpoer and i'm happy to make a donation- I'm not sure how?
Thanks again!
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Hey buddy, did you get it figured out? I broke my arm at work on Sunday and of course it's my right arm so I'm having some issues responding back on my note with one hand. I bet I've dropped this thing 20 times already.
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Hey buddy, did you get it figured out? I broke my arm at work on Sunday and of course it's my right arm so I'm having some issues responding back on my note with one hand. I bet I've dropped this thing 20 times already.
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Oh man that sucks- hopefully they gave you some good pain meds. Anyway, I havent taken th plunge yet- once I get on to 5.1.1 then twrp, I want to go on to 6.0.1 but am unsure as to what point the bootloader is unlocked or exactly what to do to upgrade to 6.0.1 once I crack the bl. I just dont want to go through the dreaded set up everything twice.