4.4.2 OTA trouble? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Hey all,
I caught wind of the 4.4.2 update, so I decided to see how it is. I had used saferoot to gain root access to it, but all I did was use Xposed to modify my phone. No recoveries or anything, and the warranty bit is 0 on the download mode screen. Just to be safe, I wiped data/factory reset to make sure everything was gone, then I started the OTA download. All goes as it should until it reboots to install it, where it gets stuck at 25%, then says "update failed". Phone reboots, and then a window pops up saying the update was interrupted. Anyone else having this issue? Anyone know any workarounds? Because if this phone just won't update, there it no reason for my to keep my warranty bit, since I have less than a week on the warranty left anyhow.

TH3F4LL3N said:
Hey all,
I caught wind of the 4.4.2 update, so I decided to see how it is. I had used saferoot to gain root access to it, but all I did was use Xposed to modify my phone. No recoveries or anything, and the warranty bit is 0 on the download mode screen. Just to be safe, I wiped data/factory reset to make sure everything was gone, then I started the OTA download. All goes as it should until it reboots to install it, where it gets stuck at 25%, then says "update failed". Phone reboots, and then a window pops up saying the update was interrupted. Anyone else having this issue? Anyone know any workarounds? Because if this phone just won't update, there it no reason for my to keep my warranty bit, since I have less than a week on the warranty left anyhow.
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Did you try re-downloading it?

BWolf56 said:
Did you try re-downloading it?
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This is my 3rd attempt to re-download it. It's currently at 94%, so I'll let you know how it goes.

TH3F4LL3N said:
This is my 3rd attempt to re-download it. It's currently at 94%, so I'll let you know how it goes.
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After my 3rd attempt, without my sd card inserted this time, the update failed again! This is starting to get irritating. Maybe I should just flash CM11 or something like that.

TH3F4LL3N said:
After my 3rd attempt, without my sd card inserted this time, the update failed again! This is starting to get irritating. Maybe I should just flash CM11 or something like that.
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It's kinda odd that it still fails after so many downloads (and so close to being complete).
If there's only a week left to your warranty, you can start looking at custom ROM you might like (AOSP or TW). By the time you find one you really like and understand how to flash it (without any issue), you will have time to give the OTA another shot. Will be some good knowledge reading in the meantime
Little advice: Don't flash a custom ROM while annoyed/mad. That's how 80% of bricks happen.

BWolf56 said:
It's kinda odd that it still fails after so many downloads (and so close to being complete).
If there's only a week left to your warranty, you can start looking at custom ROM you might like (AOSP or TW). By the time you find one you really like and understand how to flash it (without any issue), you will have time to give the OTA another shot. Will be some good knowledge reading in the meantime
Little advice: Don't flash a custom ROM while annoyed/mad. That's how 80% of bricks happen.
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Ok thanks for the advice, mate. I heard if I take it to Best Buy, they can update it. Do you know if it's free?

TH3F4LL3N said:
Ok thanks for the advice, mate. I heard if I take it to Best Buy, they can update it. Do you know if it's free?
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Imo it should be but you can always give them a call to make sure.
Just make sure you aren't rooted when going there lol.

BWolf56 said:
Imo it should be but you can always give them a call to make sure.
Just make sure you aren't rooted when going there lol.
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Haha I know the basics of rooting. If I go, my phone will be the way it is right now: stuck on stock 4.3 with nothing on it but the bloatware from Sammy and AT&T

TH3F4LL3N said:
Haha I know the basics of rooting. If I go, my phone will be the way it is right now: stuck on stock 4.3 with nothing on it but the bloatware from Sammy and AT&T
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I just noticed that the device status is custom, even though I've wiped data. Is that what is causing this trouble? If so, is there a way to fix it?

Yea when you modify the system at all it trips the modified flag and that's probably where its failing (not the warranty bit flag that's at 0 but the one that's in the system itself) try to Odin to full stock and try it again this should revert it back to official
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TH3F4LL3N said:
I just noticed that the device status is custom, even though I've wiped data. Is that what is causing this trouble? If so, is there a way to fix it?
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You need to run Triangle Away whiule rooted to change it back to official

audit13 said:
You need to run Triangle Away whiule rooted to change it back to official
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Will this work for 4.3?

I never tried it on 4.3, only on 4.1.2. Since you have Knox, rooting and installing SU may trip the knox counter. Did you try uninstalling Xposed and running the update?

TH3F4LL3N said:
I just noticed that the device status is custom, even though I've wiped data. Is that what is causing this trouble? If so, is there a way to fix it?
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crazymonkey05 said:
Yea when you modify the system at all it trips the modified flag and that's probably where its failing (not the warranty bit flag that's at 0 but the one that's in the system itself) try to Odin to full stock and try it again this should revert it back to official
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One thing, don't downgrade bootloaders doing so. That will result in a brick.

audit13 said:
I never tried it on 4.3, only on 4.1.2. Since you have Knox, rooting and installing SU may trip the knox counter. Did you try uninstalling Xposed and running the update?
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I have, and I've wiped the phone at least 3 or 4 times!
BWolf56 said:
One thing, don't downgrade bootloaders doing so. That will result in a brick.
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How would I go about this? I have the stock 4.1.1 tar file, and I can't get the 4.3 file because AT&T's update was OTA only, and I can't find the 4.3 tar file anywhere!

TH3F4LL3N said:
I have, and I've wiped the phone at least 3 or 4 times!
How would I go about this? I have the stock 4.1.1 tar file, and I can't get the 4.3 file because AT&T's update was OTA only, and I can't find the 4.3 tar file anywhere!
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Is your current baseband LK3? If so, 4.1.1 should be fine.

BWolf56 said:
Is your current baseband LK3? If so, 4.1.1 should be fine.
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I am in the about device section of the settings, and it says the baseband version is I747UCUEMJB. Is this the right one?

TH3F4LL3N said:
I am in the about device section of the settings, and it says the baseband version is I747UCUEMJB. Is this the right one?
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That would be the 4.3. You can't downgrade from those bootloaders. Therefor, you need stock 4.3

BWolf56 said:
That would be the 4.3. You can't downgrade from those bootloaders.
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Well that's just great. I'm stuck on 4.3. Could I possibly flash something like CM11 to get to kitkat? Of course, I'd like to back up the stock rom in case something goes wrong, but it would be wonderful if I could use CM on my phone again! I used the saferoot method to gain root access in the first place, which disabled KNOX if that means anything.

TH3F4LL3N said:
Well that's just great. I'm stuck on 4.3. Could I possibly flash something like CM11 to get to kitkat? Of course, I'd like to back up the stock rom in case something goes wrong, but it would be wonderful if I could use CM on my phone again! I used the saferoot method to gain root access in the first place, which disabled KNOX if that means anything.
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Yes you can, it's fairly simple too. Just gotta follow their instructions (don't skip anything).
As for recovery, I recommend TWRP, which you can get on the Play Store.

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[Q] Will I receive t-mobile 4.1.2 update?

I am curious if I will receive the new S3 update, as I am rooted on stock rom. I have not received any update notifications yet, but I know other people that have. Pressing "software update" in settings just waits saying "Checking for software updates". What do I need to do to get the update?
TyIsOwned said:
I am curious if I will receive the new S3 update, as I am rooted on stock rom. I have not received any update notifications yet, but I know other people that have. Pressing "software update" in settings just waits saying "Checking for software updates". What do I need to do to get the update?
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If you are rooted, my guess is that you most likely tripped the modified counter. By default if you are not using a work around, Samsung has certain methods in place that detect when you modifiy your phone or boot loader. Once tripped, you will most likely not get any ota updates. To check, first ensure that you dont have a yellow exclamation mark while your phone is booting, second, go to settings about phone and there is a string that she either read normal or modified. If you are rooted though, why dont you just flash one of the new roms with android 4.1.2? That is the update.
re: flashing
TyIsOwned said:
I am curious if I will receive the new S3 update, as I am rooted on stock rom. I have not received any update notifications yet, but I know other people that have. Pressing "software update" in settings just waits saying "Checking for software updates". What do I need to do to get the update?
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Forget waiting for the OTA update, why not download the full Samsung T999 S3 stock-rooted
deoxidized firmware and flash your phone with it. Since your phone is already rooted, it's easy.
Good Luck!
tp2215 said:
If you are rooted, my guess is that you most likely tripped the modified counter. By default if you are not using a work around, Samsung has certain methods in place that detect when you modifiy your phone or boot loader. Once tripped, you will most likely not get any ota updates. To check, first ensure that you dont have a yellow exclamation mark while your phone is booting, second, go to settings about phone and there is a string that she either read normal or modified. If you are rooted though, why dont you just flash one of the new roms with android 4.1.2? That is the update.
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Misterjunky said:
Forget waiting for the OTA update, why not download the full Samsung T999 S3 stock-rooted
deoxidized firmware and flash your phone with it. Since your phone is already rooted, it's easy.
Good Luck!
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Yes, it appears I am modified. I used triangle away in the past. I havn't done any phone mods in a long time, and I basically have root for apps requiring SU. I did not want to have to break out the USB cable and download a 700MB file if I could just run the update tool (call me lazy).
re: update
TyIsOwned said:
Yes, it appears I am modified. I used triangle away in the past. I havn't done any phone mods in a long time, and I basically have root for apps requiring SU. I did not want to have to break out the USB cable and download a 700MB file if I could just run the update tool (call me lazy).
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Well in that case, why not just wait for the OTA update... (you will never see one unless your phone is 100% stock) LOL
Misterjunky said:
Well in that case, why not just wait for the OTA update... (you will never see one unless your phone is 100% stock) LOL
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Right, I went ahead and updated using cwm and the stock rom and am now on 4.1.2. Flashing was just scary to me when I havnt done it in a very long time
If you wish to do it the easy way I'd say TWRP it. But another way is Odin back to complete stock UVDLJC so that your status is normal and not modified. I'm pretty sure TriangleAway doesn't need to be used to reset your binary for an OTA. Just the ROM itself can't be detected as modified for the OTA to work.
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TyIsOwned said:
Right, I went ahead and updated using cwm and the stock rom and am now on 4.1.2. Flashing was just scary to me when I havnt done it in a very long time
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If you don't mind me asking, how exactly did you go about that? I was on CM, tried changing the rom, messed up, ended going to my backup of touchwiz 4.1.1 and don't mind it but I'd like to go to 4.1.2. I'm a noob at this so if you can help me out that would be awesome. Thank you.
Go to my firmware thread stickied in development. You will find firmware and instruction there.
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ROOTED - Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available.?

[Have seen this in other forums but wasn't sure if the solutions there applied to the S4]
Anyways, the only thing I've done on my S4 is 1) sim-unlock the device via (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282683) and 2) root the device via KIES.
I have not installed any custom firmware or whatnot, I've only done the above 2. When I try to hit System Update, I get the message "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available."
I even ran Triangle Away to bring my counter back down to 0 (even if I didn't install any custom firmware) and I'm still getting this error. Does anyone have any solutions?
Should I unroot the device and will that bring it back to normal?
Thanks in advance!
It's because you rooted your phone
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Just flash a new ROM. As software updates become available the devs will base ROMs off of the latest update.
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no updates
I got the same message. I removed root and tried to update and got the same thing. I was wondering if a factory reset would restore my updates.
Bell, GS4, Qualcomm
ElvinWasHere said:
[Have seen this in other forums but wasn't sure if the solutions there applied to the S4]
Anyways, the only thing I've done on my S4 is 1) sim-unlock the device via (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282683) and 2) root the device via KIES.
I have not installed any custom firmware or whatnot, I've only done the above 2. When I try to hit System Update, I get the message "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available."
I even ran Triangle Away to bring my counter back down to 0 (even if I didn't install any custom firmware) and I'm still getting this error. Does anyone have any solutions?
Should I unroot the device and will that bring it back to normal?
Thanks in advance!
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GnexMatic said:
I got the same message. I removed root and tried to update and got the same thing. I was wondering if a factory reset would restore my updates.
Bell, GS4, Qualcomm
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Try using Triangle-Away.
In triangle away there is an option to disable root for a minute or so when booting, this will have the stock rom think its not rooted, enabling software updates.
same issue
I had the same issue. I had rooted my phone and got that message when trying to update OTA.
I really wanted the ability to put apps on the sd card from the phone itself and not have to use some fancy app to do it for me and make symbolic links (Linux stuff)
What I did was goto settings-accounts-backup and reset- and selected factory data reset.
This completely returns your phone to stock like it came out of the box. afterward I didn't get the message but I kept getting server communication errors so I connected my phone through usb to kies and it is doing the firmware upgrade as I type and OMFG is it the slowest ****ing thing I have ever had the misfortune to do. Its been on for about 3 hours and its only at 42%
And strangely my phone is still completely usable while this is going on.
Wait, is the update available for the T-Mobile devices now?
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stevessvt said:
In triangle away there is an option to disable root for a minute or so when booting, this will have the stock rom think its not rooted, enabling software updates.
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Does anyone know if it works?
I've just rooted my phone a few days ago, and removed some Sumsang and t-mobile bloatware, and that message appeared.
Thanks in advance.
Anyone of us will be answer. Soon as an update is released. But in order to get an update, you MUST be completely stock, down to the bloatware.
your system has been modified
Hi, I have successfully installed cynogen mod 10.1 nightly. And I again restored my original 4.1.2 but now when I trying to check OTA update it says "your system has been modified, software update is not available. Please please please help me.
Jatin Ganatra said:
Hi, I have successfully installed cynogen mod 10.1 nightly. And I again restored my original 4.1.2 but now when I trying to check OTA update it says "your system has been modified, software update is not available. Please please please help me.
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You need to Odin back to totally stock. Use Triangle Away to clear your flash counter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336392
Thanks
baseballfanz said:
You need to Odin back to totally stock. Use Triangle Away to clear your flash counter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336392
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Thanks a lot Brother.. i will try it and hope it will work.. and will get back to you soon.. thanks again..
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Jatin Ganatra said:
Thanks a lot Brother.. i will try it and hope it will work.. and will get back to you soon.. thanks again..
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Hello brother, I guess there is some misunderstanding regarding device model. My question is for my samsung note 10.1 GT-N8000 . Should I follow the same steps to get back my original system ? Please suggest. Thanks.
Seems like you should be asking this question in right forum then.
Im having the same issue after using triangle away. Everything says official and flash count is at 0. Any ideas? Also, with flash count set at 0 and everything listed as official, does this mean i will be ok for warranty? Im having an issue with my touchscreen working and the Tmobile place had to send me a new phone
Edit: Done a factory reset after using triangle away and i got the "Your device is up to date." Message. Still somewhat worried about warranty though.
JudgeHudge said:
Im having the same issue after using triangle away. Everything says official and flash count is at 0. Any ideas? Also, with flash count set at 0 and everything listed as official, does this mean i will be ok for warranty? Im having an issue with my touchscreen working and the Tmobile place had to send me a new phone
Edit: Done a factory reset after using triangle away and i got the "Your device is up to date." Message. Still somewhat worried about warranty though.
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If you have used Triangle away and flash counter shows 0 plus everything show "Official" you shouldn't have a problem
Wow I had never seen that before... I'm totally stock though...
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The link provided is for T-Mobile GS4 only, please do not try it on any device other than T-Mobile GS4. You will need to find similar procedure for your device. I would recommend looking into the specific device forum.
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Jatin Ganatra said:
Hello brother, I guess there is some misunderstanding regarding device model. My question is for my samsung note 10.1 GT-N8000 . Should I follow the same steps to get back my original system ? Please suggest. Thanks.
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The link provided is for T-Mobile GS4 only, please do not try it on any device other than T-Mobile GS4. You will need to find similar procedure for your device. I would recommend looking into the specific device forum.
Someone has already tested this?
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[Q] Yellow Triangle of Death, Trying to Return to Stock

I have a AT&T Galaxy S3 and I have been searching the forums for a solution to this, and have come up with some answers. From what I've gathered I am by no means at the end of my ropes at recovering the device, but I'm having trouble actually making any ground on it.
I read that flashing back to stock using Odin would get me by the yellow triangle of death, but I can't find a stock download anywhere. All the links I've found link to hotfile, which isn't up anymore so that's been creating some problems. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but all I need is Samsung's stock 4.0.4, right?
I have a HTC Sensation and Nexus 10, both rooted, and I thought I had a pretty good grip on what direction was up from working on those devices but this S3 really has me stumped. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
It might be better if you could mention what exactly you did to get your device to the state it is in.
diablo009 said:
It might be better if you could mention what exactly you did to get your device to the state it is in.
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Woops, sorry. I flashed CF-Root-SGS3-v6.3.tar using Odin and the process failed.
What OS were you running before trying to root? If it's 4.3, you won't find an AT&T stock 4.3 rom to re-flash your phone. Do not try and flash anything with a bootloader that is older than the phone's current bootloader as that will brick it.
audit13 said:
What OS were you running before trying to root? If it's 4.3, you won't find an AT&T stock 4.3 rom to re-flash your phone. Do not try and flash anything with a bootloader that is older than the phone's current bootloader as that will brick it.
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Thankfully, I was running 4.0.4.
andrbrks said:
Thankfully, I was running 4.0.4.
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Stock AT&T firmware files are here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SGH-I747&pcode=ATT#firmware
In my opinion, don't go near 4.3.
I'm sorry, I feel like this should be obvious, but how do I know which of these I want to flash?
So you're sure you were on 4.04 when you tried to root? If that's the case, I would try the July version.
By flashing in Odin, you will wipe everything off the phone, including your data.
audit13 said:
So you're sure you were on 4.04 when you tried to root? If that's the case, I would try the July version.
By flashing in Odin, you will wipe everything off the phone, including your data.
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100%. On the box the SW-VER is listed as I747UCDLK3, should I still go with the July version? And I use the PDA function in Odin for this, correct?
Wait, DLK3 is 4.1.1, not 4.0.4.
http://androidromupdate.com/2012/12...-s3-android-4-1-1-jelly-bean-official-update/
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Huh. I reset the phone to factory settings last night before I started tinkering with anything, and it was for sure listed as 4.0.4. I could be mistaken though, but I'm fairly certain. I'd rather not go against what's listed on it's box though. I'm sure the factory knows better than me.
I'm not sure what to do now. Does the imei # match the box?
That it does. I have to wait another 2 hours before I can even download the stock firmware, so it'll be awhile before I can even try flashing it.
andrbrks said:
That it does. I have to wait another 2 hours before I can even download the stock firmware, so it'll be awhile before I can even try flashing it.
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I'm not sure what I would do in your situation since the box indicates you have 4.1.1 while your phone has 4.04.
You were right, I talked with someone who was there last night when I was working on it. The phone is 4.1.1, thanks for the catch.
Okay, at least it is definitely not 4.3 which is good.
What you can do is install a custom recovery and flash a custom ROM.
So should I not even worry about going back to stock then?
andrbrks said:
So should I not even worry about going back to stock then?
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Did you try returning to stock using Kies?
Stock firmware is here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SGH-I747&pcode=ATT#firmware
Running it right now.
I hope it works for you. Good luck:good:

Do not take APH1 Update!

After taking the APH1 update on my phone, I can no longer downgrade to PG5, and I also can't flash the PG9 U firmware. I don't know what Samsung/Verizon did, but it's ridiculous.
I'm now stuck on the APH1 firmware and can't get on the U firmware at all.
I haven't tried rooting, but there is no Odin firmware for APH1 yet, so I'm not going to try until there is, so that if I mess up my phone I can fix it.
FoxyDrew said:
After taking the APH1 update on my phone, I can no longer downgrade to PG5, and I also can't flash the PG9 U firmware. I don't know what Samsung/Verizon did, but it's ridiculous.
I'm now stuck on the APH1 firmware and can't get on the U firmware at all.
I haven't tried rooting, but there is no Odin firmware for APH1 yet, so I'm not going to try until there is, so that if I mess up my phone I can fix it.
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It probably incremented the bootloader. I upgraded to it because I am just losing interest in root all together. Somebody will chime in with a more technical explanation.
DarkMidnight said:
It probably incremented the bootloader. I upgraded to it because I am just losing interest in root all together. Somebody will chime in with a more technical explanation.
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Agreed. For some reason I just don't really care about rooting the S7. Maybe I've just rooted too many phones and lost interest.
nynativ said:
Agreed. For some reason I just don't really care about rooting the S7. Maybe I've just rooted too many phones and lost interest.
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For me a lot of it is this is not the most conventional root, not very stable for me and battery life suffered a lot compared to stock, and flashing U firmware has not been very cooperative for me.
So thoughts.... I am on the latest U firmware on my 930V. Should I consider flashing back to the stock Verizon rom? Everything is working great. I do plan on jumping ship from Verizon in the next year or so. I am blown away at how well this phone runs stock and only flashed the U in preparation to take it to another carrier afterwards. Is this a bad idea?
Tried to live with root, but the battery and stability was horrible. Now, I am using the engboot to do any data back up or restore tasks in TiBU then flashing the AP again to unroot. Data is maintained, but now I have to live with ads. I use adguard, by it feel like it hurts battery life. Will try and quantify that soon.
Being able to count on my phone to make a call and hold a charge is too important to me. Rooting the phone to set it up after a reset saves me time. Unfortunately, rooting with our current method is too prohibitive for daily use.
nynativ said:
Agreed. For some reason I just don't really care about rooting the S7. Maybe I've just rooted too many phones and lost interest.
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Same here.
I have a 930U that I use on Verizon. I use the 930V firmware because I like having visual Voicemail. I have rooted 3 different times and gone back to stock everytime. I suppose it because of the engineering kernel but root with the S7 is just not stable. The battery life sucks and you have to do so many things to fix the lag it has just become not worth it. Also the 2 latest updates from Verizon have been good on battery. I do like not having Verizon logos all over my phone.
nrage23 said:
I have a 930U that I use on Verizon. I use the 930V firmware because I like having visual Voicemail. I have rooted 3 different times and gone back to stock everytime. I suppose it because of the engineering kernel but root with the S7 is just not stable. The battery life sucks and you have to do so many things to fix the lag it has just become not worth it. Also the 2 latest updates from Verizon have been good on battery. I do like not having Verizon logos all over my phone.
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Give stang5liter rom a whirl. Been on it since it was released and have no issues besides nearby devices not working for me.
craazy82013 said:
Give stang5liter rom a whirl. Been on it since it was released and have no issues besides nearby devices not working for me.
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Been using the same ROM for almost a week with xposed and everything is fine. I feel great without seeing the ads again. haha! BTW, I didn't try the nearby devices so no comment on that.
I have the G930V and am running APH1 with root no problems. The lag was horrendous but after changing the CPU governor to "interactive" on BOTH CPU's (little and BIG) it's been running smooth. I'll run like this for a bit... but stang5liter looks like it will be my next move.
Has anyone with ph1 tried flashing another rom such as stang5litre?
dBunny said:
I have the G930V and am running APH1 with root no problems. The lag was horrendous but after changing the CPU governor to "interactive" on BOTH CPU's (little and BIG) it's been running smooth. I'll run like this for a bit... but stang5liter looks like it will be my next move.
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So how did you root if you can't downgrade like the OP stated?
craazy82013 said:
Has anyone with ph1 tried flashing another rom such as stang5litre?
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Yes it works just fine.
bart77 said:
So how did you root if you can't downgrade like the OP stated?
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PH1 doesn't break root. You just can't downgrade to older firmware's or flash any U firmware's. PH1 is still completely rootable.
So you can't Odin flash back to a stock image if you get in trouble or want to unroot. I guess I'll stay on PG5 for now.
I'm not rooted now, but was able to disable system update notifications using
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hecorat.packagedisabler
By disabling:
System updates (com.samsung.sdm)
System updates (com.samsung.sdmviewer)
and securitylogagent
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PH1 doesn't break root. You just can't downgrade to older firmware's or flash any U firmware's. PH1 is still completely rootable.
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Thanks @FoxyDrew for clarifying that... and I agree.
I used the following GUIDE to root APH1 on my S7 Flat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/verizon-root-knox-t3410624
Im somewhat confused. Your saying you cant downgrade from ph1. Are you talking only with odin? Reason i ask is stang5litre rom is APE1. And as was stated a few posts up, this rom can be flashed on rooted APH1. Which would take you back to APE1. Therefor downgradable? Any help is appreciated.
craazy82013 said:
Im somewhat confused. Your saying you cant downgrade from ph1. Are you talking only with odin? Reason i ask is stang5litre rom is APE1. And as was stated a few posts up, this rom can be flashed on rooted APH1. Which would take you back to APE1. Therefor downgradable? Any help is appreciated.
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Ph1 upgrades the boot image therefore you cannot Odin flash back to stock pe1 which is the older boot image.
You can still root and flash stang5litre which is the pe1 rom, but you still have the ph1 boot image.
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bart77 said:
Ph1 upgrades the boot image therefore you cannot Odin flash back to stock pe1 which is the older boot image.
You can still root and flash stang5litre which is the pe1 rom, but you still have the ph1 boot image. So if something goes wrong, you have no means of recovery back to stock since there is no ph1 stock Odin image.
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The ph1 image is available at this link (http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=78F84FCD811E11E69B2DFA163EE8F90B). I have flashed with these files and they work perfect.
Seems bootloader was uograded to version 3. So may be possible to flash between tmo and vzw and vice versa. Both now have v3 bootloader.

Downgrading 6.0.1 to 5.1.1

Hi if anyone can help- I'm on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 after 2 Note 7's and a Note 3 before that on Biggin's so I've sorta been out of the root game. I want to downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1. I am downloading the full firmware for the Note 4 from further back in this thread (N910VVRU2CPA1) and am currently on (N910VVRU2CPG2).
From what I understand, I need to do a factory reset, then go to Odin and flash the firmware. I have Odin 3.10.7 and am downloading the N910VVRU2CPA1 as we speak. I see 'hsbadr' firmwares in his thread and the PIT file TRLTE_USA_VZW.pit which I'm not sure is compatable pit file for the specific 5.1.1 firmware or the necessary pit file is included in the full firmware and can anyone tell me if these are the right steps?are these the right steps Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks
@tjmethod by chance how did you process go, did you manage to root and unlock bootloader?
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@tjmethod by chance how did you process go, did you manage to root and unlock bootloader?
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I bought the phone already with 6.0.1 on it and read that you cannot unlock/ root it with mm on it and can only be done after downgrading to 5.1.1 so I haven't done anything yet
I'm in the same boat...Coming from a n7. Bought a n4 on eBay...It's got 601. Want to root...Guess we need to downgrade....Is it possible?
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Hi if anyone can help- I'm on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 after 2 Note 7's and a Note 3 before that on Biggin's so I've sorta been out of the root game. I want to downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1. I am downloading the full firmware for the Note 4 from further back in this thread (N910VVRU2CPA1) and am currently on (N910VVRU2CPG2).
From what I understand, I need to do a factory reset, then go to Odin and flash the firmware. I have Odin 3.10.7 and am downloading the N910VVRU2CPA1 as we speak. I see 'hsbadr' firmwares in his thread and the PIT file TRLTE_USA_VZW.pit which I'm not sure is compatable pit file for the specific 5.1.1 firmware or the necessary pit file is included in the full firmware and can anyone tell me if these are the right steps?are these the right steps Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks
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sudermatt said:
I'm in the same boat...Coming from a n7. Bought a n4 on eBay...It's got 601. Want to root...Guess we need to downgrade....Is it possible?
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Before you can start rooting, you'll need to be on 5.1.1 BPA1. If you're currently on 6.0.1, just download the BPA1 firmware from Sammobile, factory reset on 6.0.1, then flash BPA1 stock via Odin.
quinciebee said:
Before you can start rooting, you'll need to be on 5.1.1 BPA1. If you're currently on 6.0.1, just download the BPA1 firmware from Sammobile, factory reset on 6.0.1, then flash BPA1 stock via Odin.
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Hi thanks, I had called Samsung and talked to top tier tech support and was told that once the phone has been upgraded to 6.0.1., it cannot be downgraded. and that i need to search the rooting sites and try to find where someone has found a breach or workaround for unlocking the bootloader which will usually have a bounty but I dont know. top tier tech support has always been good. Do you think thats false it cannot be downgraded?
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Hi thanks, I had called Samsung and talked to top tier tech support and was told that once the phone has been upgraded to 6.0.1., it cannot be downgraded. and that i need to search the rooting sites and try to find where someone has found a breach or workaround for unlocking the bootloader which will usually have a bounty but I dont know. top tier tech support has always been good. Do you think thats false it cannot be downgraded?
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It's definitely false, when I rooted my phone, I downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 without any issues.
quinciebee said:
It's definitely false, when I rooted my phone, I downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 without any issues.
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I will definately give it a go when I have the time, have you flashed a rom and if so which one, there must be some or some tweaks to get rid of the lag?
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I will definately give it a go when I have the time, have you flashed a rom and if so which one, there must be some or some tweaks to get rid of the lag?
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I'm currently using CM13 because of Xposed and overall stability, but there are newer roms out there.
quinciebee said:
I'm currently using CM13 because of Xposed and overall stability, but there are newer roms out there.
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I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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You want the PA1. It's really easy. Just sounds more complicated then it is. I am using the PaulPizz rom. It is very stable, good battery life, and spen and sview work. If you need any help, let me know.
ziggy71 said:
You want the PA1. It's really easy. Just sounds more complicated then it is. I am using the PaulPizz rom. It is very stable, good battery life, and spen and sview work. If you need any help, let me know.
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Thanks bro I don't if I'll have time til this weekend to do this- Does this rom have tweaks to fix the aggravating galaxy lag? With a non rooted phone there's goin into recovery and deleting cache, DU speed and phone booster, cleaned but it's like they all have it- thanks again- lookin forward to rooting this damn thing
tjmethod said:
I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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Yeah they're out there but that thread hasn't been updated recently. Basically the order after pf3 is pg2, pj2, and then cpl1. The one you want, if your planning on rooting, is bpa1. Also, as far as your question in the op about the pit file, it should really only be used if absolutely necessary. It's in case your partitions have been corrupted for some reason and you need to repartition your device.
Edit- I was going to link to those other firmwares but they are buried in the thread that your already looking in. Either way they aren't necessary for you to unlock your bootloader, you can go straight from cpl1 to bpa1.
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Yeah they're out there but that thread hasn't been updated recently. Basically the order after pf3 is pg2, pj2, and then cpl1. The one you want, if your planning on rooting, is bpa1. Also, as far as your question in the op about the pit file, it should really only be used if absolutely necessary. It's in case your partitions have been corrupted for some reason and you need to repartition your device.
Edit- I was going to link to those other firmwares but they are buried in the thread that your already looking in. Either way they aren't necessary for you to unlock your bootloader, you can go straight from cpl1 to bpa1.
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Hey thanks for confirming all this. So all I need to download and install is the bpa1 firmware via Oden with the AP button I think- I've got a few different versions of Oden on my pc. It's been a while since I've flashed firmware on a phone but I remember it was easy. So just save my pictures, any files, etc. on the sd card, remove it, then do a factory reset or when I put the setting into usb download mode, and flash the firmware this will automatically factory reset the phone? Also earlier today Verizon has been trying to push an software upgrade. After I unlock the bootloader and install twrp then flash a rom, do I need to somehow disable the update notice. I remember having to do that once with another phone.
What rom are you on? Thanks again for the Info-
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hey thanks for confirming all this. So all I need to download and install is the bpa1 firmware via Oden with the AP button I think- I've got a few different versions of Oden on my pc. It's been a while since I've flashed firmware on a phone but I remember it was easy. So just save my pictures, any files, etc. on the sd card, remove it, then do a factory reset or when I put the setting into usb download mode, and flash the firmware this will automatically factory reset the phone? Also earlier today Verizon has been trying to push an software upgrade. After I unlock the bootloader and install twrp then flash a rom, do I need to somehow disable the update notice. I remember having to do that once with another phone.
What rom are you on? Thanks again for the Info-
TJ
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Yeah that all sounds spot on. I would definitely do the factory reset before you start, but other than that your good. To block the updates, you can uninstall the SDM apps. There are 2 of those and you'll need root to remove them, but you can disable them without root with that debloater tool. The rom I'm currently using is kind of work in progress. I have a couple stock based roms in the dev section, one is stock_plus that has a stock feel with some mods added and the other is Modest Rom that is got some grace apps added and system ui mods. You can find them here and here if you want to check them out.
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Yeah that all sounds spot on. I would definitely do the factory reset before you start, but other than that your good. To block the updates, you can uninstall the SDM apps. There are 2 of those and you'll need root to remove them, but you can disable them without root with that debloater tool. The rom I'm currently using is kind of work in progress. I have a couple stock based roms in the dev section, one is stock_plus that has a stock feel with some mods added and the other is Modest Rom that is got some grace apps added and system ui mods. You can find them here and here if you want to check them out.
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Awesome, I'm going to check those out but I forgot the biggest question of all... how to get rid of the Galaxy lag- is there a rom or tweak where this can be fixed since recovery cache delete and cleaning tools dont really do much?
Thanks again-
tjmethod said:
Awesome, I'm going to check those out but I forgot the biggest question of all... how to get rid of the Galaxy lag- is there a rom or tweak where this can be fixed since recovery cache delete and cleaning tools dont really do much?
Thanks again-
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Custom kernels help a lot. The problem is it's kind of slim pickings for our specific model, but some of the international kernels work well too. Oscar kernel is made for the 910v so that's probably the most reliable but if your like me, I like to use a permissive kernel and Ram kernel is not a bad choice for that though it's not as feature rich.
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Custom kernels help a lot. The problem is it's kind of slim pickings for our specific model, but some of the international kernels work well too. Oscar kernel is made for the 910v so that's probably the most reliable but if your like me, I like to use a permissive kernel and Ram kernel is not a bad choice for that though it's not as feature rich.
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I really dont know the difference... from what I remember a kernel is the layer between the software and the hardware- a key component of the os. I'm guessing the permissive ones can be used for different roms or firmware? You can probably tell I really don't that much about the root game. The last time I flashed a firmware was on my note 3 after I bricked it. Then rerooted and got on to biggins rom which was great ut I never understood or learned how to use xposed. Anyway, I downloaded Modest Rom, PJ2 _STOCK .tar and am downloading cpl1_tar but I know that once I flash bpa1 firmware which puts the phone back on 5.1.1. I see your roms are 6.0.1 roms, after I flash the bpa1, will the bootloader be unlocked? If so can I then just flash the cpla1_tar or is that not a full firmware? or use one of the two 6.0.1 firmwares from where I found the cpa1? Are the kernels different from 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 and where to find the downloads?? I appreciate the tips especially coming from a develpoer and i'm happy to make a donation- I'm not sure how?
Thanks again!
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I really dont know the difference... from what I remember a kernel is the layer between the software and the hardware- a key component of the os. I'm guessing the permissive ones can be used for different roms or firmware? You can probably tell I really don't that much about the root game. The last time I flashed a firmware was on my note 3 after I bricked it. Then rerooted and got on to biggins rom which was great ut I never understood or learned how to use xposed. Anyway, I downloaded Modest Rom, PJ2 _STOCK .tar and am downloading cpl1_tar but I know that once I flash bpa1 firmware which puts the phone back on 5.1.1. I see your roms are 6.0.1 roms, after I flash the bpa1, will the bootloader be unlocked? If so can I then just flash the cpla1_tar or is that not a full firmware? or use one of the two 6.0.1 firmwares from where I found the cpa1? Are the kernels different from 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 and where to find the downloads?? I appreciate the tips especially coming from a develpoer and i'm happy to make a donation- I'm not sure how?
Thanks again!
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Hey buddy, did you get it figured out? I broke my arm at work on Sunday and of course it's my right arm so I'm having some issues responding back on my note with one hand. I bet I've dropped this thing 20 times already.
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Hey buddy, did you get it figured out? I broke my arm at work on Sunday and of course it's my right arm so I'm having some issues responding back on my note with one hand. I bet I've dropped this thing 20 times already.
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Oh man that sucks- hopefully they gave you some good pain meds. Anyway, I havent taken th plunge yet- once I get on to 5.1.1 then twrp, I want to go on to 6.0.1 but am unsure as to what point the bootloader is unlocked or exactly what to do to upgrade to 6.0.1 once I crack the bl. I just dont want to go through the dreaded set up everything twice.

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