HP Elite X3 Help Needed - Windows 10 Mobile

I have been conducting a review of the new HP X3 for my job, and there are two major "problems/things" are driving me nuts. I am a 28 year application developer, I have built my own Windows CE environments since PocketPC 2003 and my daily driver is a unlocked 950XL, so I am not some noob. But at this point this device has me stumped on Microsoft or HP motives with this device.
Just an overview, the device comes with a nice continuum dock with two USB ports and a USB C port, so basically three in total. It also has a display port as well, which to most people will require a DVI converter. As a developer remote desktop was my first stop. This option does work, but you quickly find out the that you don't like the mouse speed or the pointer size isn't exactly what you want as far as the overall RDP session. OK, so you go to settings and guess what. One option, mouse button left or right...Really HP and/or Microsoft????? At least give me some sort of mouse speed control. I was able to write a complete UWP application using Blend and Visual Studio through remote desktop, but if it had not been for the testing of the device I would have ended up pulling out my laptop and had the app done in 1/4 the time. So please expose some mouse settings, I have been through the Image Design Control tool for the provisioning and their WAP files from the ffu images but can not find the settings that I could configure to change this. My 950XL on the same HP dock with the same mouse and keyboard works 1000% times better, so it is something they have in a setting, hopefully not in a build.
Next I try and get the great dock that comes with the device to sync with a desktop. I have not tried this with the HD-500, so maybe this isn't fair. But as far as I can tell you can not have your device sync to a workstation when it is docked. I tried connecting the USB-C to a normal USB port on the desktop (both USB3 and USB2) and the device gets the dialog on the device saying USB error. So I try a straight through normal USB male to male cable, same error. Very annoying thing at first, but for a developer it gets worse.
So you end up taking the device off the dock and connect it using a UBS-C to a USB3 cable directly to the desktop. Finally the device is seen by the OS and Visual Studio. Things are looking up, workstation makes the ding, you can browse the files, visual studio shows the device and you think everything is ready. You go back to visual studio and set the break points in the code and press debug. The device turned off when you first sit it down but at first you don't even think about it. So you pick the device up get the screen running so visual studio starts trying to connect for the debugging session. Your humming along and visual studio debugger hits a null exception error and breaks. You sit down the phone and turn to visual studio to check out which object only to find out the phone turned off and the error along with the debug session had been cut off. I really don't understand whether is the light sensor or accelerator that HP has set here but it has to be a setting. My 950XL does not exhibit this behavior. I can see exposing a setting such as this as an option, but I cannot find the setting controlling this behavior if it is an option or something HP is enforcing for some unknown reason.
So if anyone can point me in the direction to the following options and/or settings it would be helpful.
1. Where are the mouse pointer speed settings for USB connect mouse including when using Continuum. (Registry settings or visual don't care)
2. On the HP X3 does anyone know how to turn off the setting to turn off when sat down. Trying to figure out if this is the black out of light or when it is acceleration setting.

Hi to prevent the phone to turn off you must turn off the double tap feature.

acuatico69 said:
Hi to prevent the phone to turn off you must turn off the double tap feature.
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I think there was also a new FW update to aid in the screen timeout while docked.

geekempire said:
I have been conducting a review of the new HP X3 for my job, and there are two major "problems/things" are driving me nuts. I am a 28 year application developer, I have built my own Windows CE environments since PocketPC 2003 and my daily driver is a unlocked 950XL, so I am not some noob. But at this point this device has me stumped on Microsoft or HP motives with this device.
Just an overview, the device comes with a nice continuum dock with two USB ports and a USB C port, so basically three in total. It also has a display port as well, which to most people will require a DVI converter. As a developer remote desktop was my first stop. This option does work, but you quickly find out the that you don't like the mouse speed or the pointer size isn't exactly what you want as far as the overall RDP session. OK, so you go to settings and guess what. One option, mouse button left or right...Really HP and/or Microsoft????? At least give me some sort of mouse speed control. I was able to write a complete UWP application using Blend and Visual Studio through remote desktop, but if it had not been for the testing of the device I would have ended up pulling out my laptop and had the app done in 1/4 the time. So please expose some mouse settings, I have been through the Image Design Control tool for the provisioning and their WAP files from the ffu images but can not find the settings that I could configure to change this. My 950XL on the same HP dock with the same mouse and keyboard works 1000% times better, so it is something they have in a setting, hopefully not in a build.
Next I try and get the great dock that comes with the device to sync with a desktop. I have not tried this with the HD-500, so maybe this isn't fair. But as far as I can tell you can not have your device sync to a workstation when it is docked. I tried connecting the USB-C to a normal USB port on the desktop (both USB3 and USB2) and the device gets the dialog on the device saying USB error. So I try a straight through normal USB male to male cable, same error. Very annoying thing at first, but for a developer it gets worse.
So you end up taking the device off the dock and connect it using a UBS-C to a USB3 cable directly to the desktop. Finally the device is seen by the OS and Visual Studio. Things are looking up, workstation makes the ding, you can browse the files, visual studio shows the device and you think everything is ready. You go back to visual studio and set the break points in the code and press debug. The device turned off when you first sit it down but at first you don't even think about it. So you pick the device up get the screen running so visual studio starts trying to connect for the debugging session. Your humming along and visual studio debugger hits a null exception error and breaks. You sit down the phone and turn to visual studio to check out which object only to find out the phone turned off and the error along with the debug session had been cut off. I really don't understand whether is the light sensor or accelerator that HP has set here but it has to be a setting. My 950XL does not exhibit this behavior. I can see exposing a setting such as this as an option, but I cannot find the setting controlling this behavior if it is an option or something HP is enforcing for some unknown reason.
So if anyone can point me in the direction to the following options and/or settings it would be helpful.
1. Where are the mouse pointer speed settings for USB connect mouse including when using Continuum. (Registry settings or visual don't care)
2. On the HP X3 does anyone know how to turn off the setting to turn off when sat down. Trying to figure out if this is the black out of light or when it is acceleration setting.
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hello
try using Bluetooth mouse
I'm using the following setup:
hp pro display p2012 over Display port to HDMI cable with DVI to HDMI adapter
Bluetooth mouse and keyboard
they work perfectly

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Vista vs. Orbit: no-score draw.

This problem is driving me to distraction, when I plug my orbit (o2, WM6 ROM) into my vista (home premium) laptop the phone shows up in my computer but when I click on it to open so I can add files... nothing. Not just nothing in that window but other programmes cease to respond. Firefox won't find websites, Thunderbird cannot find pop server, nothing, the only thing that does continue to function is WMP still plays music without hesitation or pause, which is nice, if only was listening to something a little more soothing.
It has worked intermittently in the past (works fine with my old Wizard (I keep him around for casting spells and such like.) and I have to same problem with the Orbit regardless of which wire I use.
I wonder if it may be the USB socket in the phone which is the problem, possibly it was damaged when the ridiculous headphone plug was inserted and it got somewhat knocked in the pocket of some rather tight jeans with my hand thrust in there too.
Any help, hints or placation greatly appreciated.
tl;dr: can't transfer to phone from vista, help?
Well I dont really know what your problem is, but if your only wanting to transfer stuff from PC to Orbit SD card then try Wm5torage for a quick fix until you get the issue solved.
Go to start|settings|system - usb to PC and uncheck "enable advanced etc"
Kennymusicman said:
Go to start|settings|system - usb to PC and uncheck "enable advanced etc"
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Brilliant, works like a charm. One wonders what the 'advanced' settings are actually for if all they seem to do is stop it from working.
Thank you.

[Q] USB Host on Touch HD?

Does anyone tried this Program?
http://htc-blackstone-100.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=HTC+Blackstone+100
Just found it by accident and don't have a fitting cable
It's look like a fake, because: http://htc-unexisting-model.handster.com/product.php?id=3339
Bluetooth
On the Teksoft homepage there's a driver for bluetooth input too, seems to work in the demo videos?
Teksoft BlueInput and Dell Mouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEoQWN9gzHc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhdUQZxZLoQ
Has anyone tried this and found it to work / not work.
I want to connect a Leica Total Station (Surveying Equipment) (http://www.leica-geosystems.com/uk/en/lgs_67104.htm) to my Blackstone and use the Leica "Pocket Instrument Explorer" to get the two talking to each other.
On the PC the computer and instrument are connected with a Prolific USB-Serial Converter cable on a standard male Type A USB.
I have a USB Type A to USB Minin converter to physically connnect the Blackstone to Instrument. The software (which, has installed fine and seems to work) has all sorts of settings for COM3 and COM4.
I know that the USB on the Blackstone is not a HOST but I suspect that this is the case on many PDAs and if the case I see no reason why Leica would develope the software if there is not a way to connect them.
Anyone who wants to try this will need the PIE software which is a locked download for Leica Members. I will email a copy to you if desired but do not want to post it here for general distribution.

[Q] ???Remote Screen/Display Solution???

Hey Guys,
I need your help. I currently have a carputer running Windows XP in my car now with an 8" touchscreen interface. It works and does what I want it to but I'm thinking I want a cleaner solution. At first, I was thinking about loading Android onto it but then I was thinking I could probably go one step further. My EVO does everything I currently have in the car (nav, music, video, etc) and it'd be awesome to use my EVO as the CPU if I could get it working with a bigger screen. Is there some kind of device on the market that acts as a remote display/screen that allows seamless touchscreen functionality? I'm talking about mirroring the display of the EVO. Like via bluetooth or HDMI out with USB interface for the touchscreen function?? That would work so much better because all I would have to do is mount the screen and run power to it. I could completely remove all of the computer hardware saving space and points of failure. It'd be best via bluetooth that way I wouldn't even have to take it out of my pocket. If there was a way to get it to work with the HDMI port for the video/audio feed and the micro-USB port for the touchscreen interface, I could just run a dock in the car and work it that way. If anybody knows of a device or a solution that would accomplish this, PLEASE let me know! If you think you have an easier/better idea, please feel free to share that as well! Thanks!
-Greg
I know there are several developers on the brink of completely unlocking the HMDI port functionality so I know it can be accomplished...but getting the touchscreen to be seamless I think would be the most challenging part...
Ok, so after changing some search terms, I was able to find something similar: Mimo USB Monitor. The entire monitor (power, video feed, and touchscreen interface) is though one USB connection. I came across this XDA thread that pretty much explains how it could possibly work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898418 Has anybody done any research on this or know anybody that has or is currently working on something like this??
Any ideas??
That wont work. The usb port does NOT do video out. Your only option for video out is the hdmi port, which as of right now, will only output video and pictures. As said above, there are dev's working on full hdmi output, but who knows when it will be available.
sitlet said:
That wont work. The usb port does NOT do video out. Your only option for video out is the hdmi port, which as of right now, will only output video and pictures. As said above, there are dev's working on full hdmi output, but who knows when it will be available.
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That monitor is a standard USB DisplayLink device. No special video out needs to be on the port, you just need a device capable of operating as a USB host with the correct drivers loaded (which are open source on normal Linux and thus should be portable to Android if someone was so inclined). Thus, any phone which could be used with a USB keyboard, mouse, thumbdrive, etc. can support that monitor.
That said, I've looked a few times and do not believe the Evo has USB-OTG support and it certainly does not have a standard host port, so we may be SOL there. N1 users can do it for sure, I'm pretty sure I've seen it used with an Ubuntu install, creating a kind of hacker's version of the Altrix around a year earlier.
Alternatively, it's not the fasted method, but there are a couple of software solutions that basically let you VNC to your EVO from the PC. androidscreencast is one (google that phrase, can't post links yet) but it seems as though it's stalled out. I think that Droid Commander (or something like that) also has a screen casting option. This way you don't have to worry about touch screen drivers etc.
greg.dassing said:
Ok, so after changing some search terms, I was able to find something similar: Mimo USB Monitor. The entire monitor (power, video feed, and touchscreen interface) is though one USB connection. I came across this XDA thread that pretty much explains how it could possibly work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898418 Has anybody done any research on this or know anybody that has or is currently working on something like this??
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I wonder how a cheap chinese tablet with a usb host would work.
I've considered just installed a cheapo tablet in my car then go out to rca's or a bluetooth transmitter. My line of thought on is most headunits/music is only stereo(2 channel), so you wouldn't lose anything there. The two big problems I forsee would be a reduction in the the output quality using 3.5 to rca and finding one with a fm radio thats worth a damn.
Well if you really wanted to go a tablet route. there is the smartq v5 you can pickup for around 250. it has full hdmi out usb host bluetooth and hardware video decoding (1080i hdmi video looks soo nice on a tv form it). You can download the android 2.2 firmware and run rocketplayer for allmost any video.

[Q] Display and control GN2 on Win7 PC through USB?

I used to be able to view and control some of my older phones on my PC through the USB connection, but I haven't been able to find out if this is possible yet with android phones, specifically my new GN2. I know I can get the dock and hook up one of my PC monitors to a switch, and I also know there is a way to connect a bluetooth keyboard/mouse, and then use a HLA adapter to run a monitor. I have also looked at a couple programs that use VPN connections to "host" android devices on websites that you can access with your PC via web browser, but as far as I can tell you are limited to what you can do (web browser, messaging, email).
I'm really looking for a stand alone program that I can open on my PC that, when connected to my GN2 via USB, will duplicate the devices display in a window and allow control of the device with the PCs keyboard and mouse. Does such a program exist? Thanks all.
i have never seen anything like this. What would be the purpose of this?
To control my phone with my workstation peripherals while at work if I want to view a website that is blocked by my works firewall, or simply to respond to a text message without having to turn on my phones screen

[Q] Mouse driver on RT??

Hi,
i have an HP Mouse and would like to use it with my Windows RT. Normaly i would say connect the Mouse to the RT, driver will be installed automatically. But my mouse is working with the intern Wi-Fi of the deivce. So first i need to install the Software/driver before i can connect the mouse. Can someone tell me how i can do this? The mouse drivers are availabel for x86 and x64 Device.
Thank you
2 things.
First of all I have never heard of a mouse that connects via internal wifi. Only bluetooth, USB connector (which may have its own wifi or bluetooth device internally for a wireless mouse but does not need a special driver as it still appears as a normal USB mouse) or PS/2.
Secondly. You cannot install x86 drivers on windows RT.
1. You can complain about this directly by HP, but it's fact that this mouse connect directly by intern Wi-Fi. That's because there is no USB connector and the notebook has no bluetooth
2. if this is as easy as downloading a app from market i needn't to ask here? I found severel Threads saying they get Desktop Apps x86 runnying on the RT. So i thought maybe it is possible to get this driver/software running on the RT, too.
x86 drivers cannot be installed, it even says that in the thread.
I'm very crurious about this mouse; I've never heard of a WiFi mouse (the wireless ones that don't use BlueTooth use proprietary protocols of their own) and historically WiFi has been considered unsuitable for the purpose. I'd heard there was a project to try and produce a WiFi profile suitable for peripherals but hadn't heard of anything using it.
Could you please share the model name/number/whatever of your mouse?
As for using it on Windows RT, you'll probably have to wait for HP to release a Metro app that supports the mouse (if this is even possible). x86 and x64 drivers aren't supported, even to the extremely limited extent that x86 *anything* is supported, on RT. Offically, nothing is supported; the hack that we have uses a very clever emulation engine but only works on user-mode code (never kernel drivers, and probably never user-mode drivers unless the developer gets really ambitious). Open-source drivers *might* be recompilable - we've managed to get unsigned kernel-mode code execution - but even that is iffy. Closed-source ones, no chance.
http://google.com/search?q=hp+wifi+mouse
As the CNet review indicates, it only works with Win7 (and possibly Win8). I really doubt HP will actually provide driver for a 2-yr-old periph, especially since it has dumped on RT and is going with Android.
Essentially, you have an oddball periph that's limited to a particular OS. Rather than spending more time getting it to work, the simple fix is to spend the $10 and get yourself another wireless mouse.
Thank you for all your response.
here you go this is my mouse:
http://www8.hp.com/de/de/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=5095508
Works fine with my Windows 8 Professional Notebook.
normaly i don't need the software. It's only for connecting. An other Mouse, which is older than my one, using an USB connector works with out problems with the RT. Only the USB connector into the USB hub, drivers are installed by Windows, and you can use the Mouse. I don't know maybe there are some ways to connect to the mouse. When looking for Wlan networks i found P2PHP-WIN-8. That's the Mouse-PC network connection. i tryed to login there with the RT, but it asks for a network key. And i don't have one for the mouse.
Someone an idea? I tryed the mouse ID and serial number. But doesn't worked
the mouse will use a proprietary protocol because frankly wifi mouses are so obscure that this is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing. That software likely includes the relevant drivers needed, not just initiate the connection. It just isnt going to work on RT until HP and microsoft work together to support it on RT which they likely wont.
Just go buy a normal mouse.
Wow... somebody actually used WiFi Direct for a mouse! Interesting.
It's possible that WFD will eventually be integrated into Windows as a generic driver, the way that UMS and MTP and HID and so forth are. In that case, assuming the mouse follows a reasonably standard interface convention (which is far from guaranteed from very early adopters of somewhat obscure technology...) it would probably work on whatever version of RT gets that generic driver (in the same way that BlueTooth -> HID can be used to load BT mice with a generic driver today). Otherwise, it will fall to HP and Microsoft to create a workign driver, and I doubt they'll bother.
my logitech mouse worked perfectly, just plug in the USB wireless receiver and a few secs later the mouse is working!
Turkishflavor said:
my logitech mouse worked perfectly, just plug in the USB wireless receiver and a few secs later the mouse is working!
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this is a WiFi mouse not a usb mouse
Turkishflavor said:
my logitech mouse worked perfectly, just plug in the USB wireless receiver and a few secs later the mouse is working!
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You didn't even bother to read the (at the time <1 page) thread, did you?

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