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I'm thinking of buying either Z1 Compact or LG G2 and I need to ask for Z1 Compact user experience.
LG G2 has a phenomenal 1080P display and a phenomenal camera, while Z1 compact is waterproof and has SD expansion slot.
I saw some comments about Z1 turning off for someone because of the heat, has anyone encountered this while playing something like GTA SA or other games that just suck performance?
And what would you recommend? Is Z1 Compact screen enough for internet browsing and gaming, not too small? I previously used ZTE blade which is 1x1 cm less in size than the Z1 compact. And the screen for media browsing wasn't really enough and I sometimes press the wrong key while typing something.
Playing Order of Chaos that sucks performance and use Internet, never turned off... Heats of course... About display... For me, it's little for games, for Internet browsing it's enough, no problem when typing. About battery life... Awesome... Every Z1C owner love battery life of this phone. I choose this phone because it's small, fits good on one hand and have awesome hardware, if you want a phone to play games and you don't have problems about size, go ahead with LG G2, if you want a phone with good battery life, small with good hardware, Z1C it's for you
If it comes to me, I have encountered no problems with overheating during my 6 months experience with the phone. I would definitely recommend buying z1c. However, for mobile gaming z2 may be a better choice because of the size of the screen.
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If it comes to me, I have encountered no problems with overheating during my 6 months experience with the phone. I would definitely recommend buying z1c. However, for mobile gaming z2 may be a better choice because of the size of the screen.
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I wish I could afford it. It's almost 400 euros here and the minimum monthly wage in my country is 260 euros.
I'd go with original Z1 but it has a screen with ****ty viewing angles compared to compact.
And it is vulnerable to bending so be aware of girls sitting on your knees [emoji14]
Actually, I will suggest you to go for LG G2 because 5.2" FHD is much better experiences for media and Internet but we all love the one hand size of Z1c here and don't real care about the screen size.
Z1c is very good performance, both Z1c and G2 are powered by S800 but since Z1c used only 720P screen and spend much smaller resources, the performance and heat problem will better than G2 in reality during gaming.
I played 2 hrs straight and observed that z1 compact maintained at 42 degrees. Not to bad?
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I'm looking for a phone for my father and need to narrow it down
Priorities (in order):
Fast
Battery
Good and simple(not in the way) software
reliable manufacturer, customer support, and warranty
Camera
Don't really care about:
Rootablity / devs
Build needs to be solid and decent, but doesn't have to be too "premium"
I'm probably also going to get my dad this phone just because of the battery life. I doubt performance will be an issue with the Moto Z Play tbh.
Just got the phone and I'm quite impressed with its speed (comming from a Moto Maxx, Droid turbo but unlocked international version) Battery life has been amazing, right now im at 70% with 2h 41m SoT and 2 hours of strava (been on for 13 hours)
Camera is WAY faster and in my opinion better (at least focus wise) than my Moto Maxx.
Cant complain about anything.
Performance wont be as good as one plus 3 because moto z play uses a 625 chip wich is a mid ranger chipset
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this battery is awesome.. best battery life in world
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Performance wont be as good as one plus 3 because moto z play uses a 625 chip wich is a mid ranger chipset
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U can't notice any difference in performance between these two ..i used both device ..& i can say z play run any app & game buttery smooth.. 0 lag
Want build quality than go for moto always
I've just got a z play as a work phone,and it was between it and the OP3
In the end the massive battery life won it for me, and tbh, compared to my Pixel xl, the speed difference is hardly noticeable in day to day use
Its certainly as fast as my colleagues OP3 that's for sure
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The replies here are naturally biased towards the Moto Z Play. But since I had the same decision to make, tried both devices and ended up with the Moto Z Play, here is my feedback:
Priorities (in order):
Fast
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The OP3 is faster on paper and will beat the Moto Z play in just about any benchmark. If you're looking into 60fps gaming at ultra high settings over the next years, your search has to end here: the OP3 wins.
That said, the Snapdragon 625 is an amazing SoC and the Moto Z Play is not only blazing fast, it stays cool under just about all conditions. It's fast, really fast and never throttles. Most reviews will tell you that during regular use, any difference in speed to the current SD 820/821 flagships is almost imperceptible and they are absolutely right. So if day-to-day performance is a something you worry about: don't. Both phones master just about every smartphone task without breaking a sweat. The Moto Z Play is absolutely buttery smooth - always. It's also a perfectly capable gaming machine and there is no current game it can't play, but it will dip below 60fps if you crank up the details on the most demanding titles.
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No competition, the Moto Z Play is a battery monster - maybe the best on the market right now. It is effectively impossible to drain it in a single day of use. It will completely change the way you think about battery life and charging habits - it's an incredibly relaxing experience because battery life becomes a total non-issue with this phone. Do whatever you want with the phone all day and hook it up at night or quickly in the morning and you'll be good. Forgot to charge it one night? Not a problem, you'll still make it through the next day.
The OP3's battery life is fine, pretty much like any other flagship phone these days. You'll make it through the day most days but probably have to top it off once or twice on particularly demanding days. Luckily that's easily done via dash charge - it charges faster than just about any other phone.
Good and simple(not in the way) software
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Both are great and offer a stock-like experience. Moto is closer to stock Android, uses Google apps just about everywhere and offers the better, hardware-aided features. It's a Nexus-like experience with some very well thought out enhancements. Moto Display is to this day the best implementation of an ambient display by a wide margin. The worst thing about it: once you get used to it, it's really hard to ever go back to a non-Moto device - it's that great.
reliable manufacturer, customer support, and warranty
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Both devices offer excellent build quality, with the Moto Z Play having less known issues and a (historically) better quality assurance. But it hasn't been out long enough to say this for certain.
Both manufacturers offer terrible customer service if something goes wrong. OnePlus may be a little worse, but that's debatable and things may have even turned. Don't expect a great experience if you need to make use of the warranty.
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Both offer good cameras, but they can't compete with current flagships. They take excellent pictures under good conditions and suffer under low light. The OP3's camera is slightly better but not by much.
The things you'll get with the OP3: better, theoretically more future proof specs.
The things you'll get with the Moto Z Play: "Never even think about it again" battery life, Moto Display, Moto Gestures, Moto Mods, Moto Voice (all brilliant hardware features that can't be replicated by software on the OP3), expandable storage.
The One Plus 3 is better on paper but Moto Z Play will offer likely the same real-world performance which MUCH better battery life.
I'm glad I got this bad boy today. Returned that crappy V20 I had and got the droid force edition. Bigger battery and better camera. So far so good. Mine even came with the Incipio extended battery moto mod.
I had the OP3 and this seems better so far. Runs just as fast with ZERO LAG. Motorola did good with this device.
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Can anyone comment on the screen brightness outdoors for the OP3 and Moto z play?
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Can anyone comment on the screen brightness outdoors for the OP3 and Moto z play?
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Maximum brightness for both is similar, the OnePlus 3 is slightly brighter. Neither AMOLED display is as bright as your typical IPS display but outdoor brightness hasn't been a real issue for me with either one.
If outside brightness is truly important to you, look into phones with IPS panels.
Fellow Moto Z Play users.
I'm an owner of g3, thats looping in the boot....
I dont trust lg anymore.... G2 screen burns, g3 cracked cases and heat related issue, g4 bootloop and g5 ghosting burn ins
So i today i'm ordering my phone. I want to make sure device wont get defects... Lg g5 with us warrsnty is 400usd.
Moto z play is 450USD.
Lg g5 is cheaper, yet has a better camera and better cpu gpu.
Moto z play has a better batterylife,britgher screen, lower performance, better perceived quality by me(we had 2 of moto g, both didnt have any issues).
How good pr bad the moto play z cam?
Is it bad in bad light. PLEASE help me. I dont want to go over 400 usd. I would buy axon 7 but the cam made me like no.
But if axon 7 and moto play z has the same cam or similar performancr. I will go with zte axon 7. For the performance and design also qhd display and priced 350 usd
I have had zero issues with low light pics taken with my z, and I've had some very good phones in the past (Sammy, HTC). The low light pics can be a bit grainy, and that's where the z play does struggle, but honestly it isn't as big of a deal as some reviews have stated.
Personally having slightly less sharp low light pics, which is rare, is a small trade off to the awesome battery and moto ui. I just got sick of charging my phone 2-3 times a day, and having high end specs meant less and less to me. This phone is a beast all around, it'll be hard to eventually replace it
I am coming from a Note 4 the camera of the Z play is better. It misses only the OIS. But this helps only for free hand low light images. LG may be slightly better in low light because of the better aperture and the OIS. But it won't be that big difference as all the reviews let you think. I would not expect any differences in daylight.
My friend has a G5 and wants my Z play.
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But if axon 7 and moto play z has the same cam or similar performancr. I will go with zte axon 7. For the performance and design also qhd display and priced 350 usd
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The Axon 7's camera is better than the Z Play's - at least on paper - not by much, but OIS may help it win the upper hand. Both are capable of excellent, current flagship quality daylight shots. The Z Play has better post processing and overall the better software and I personally prefer the Z Play's daylight shots, but both are good - neither is great in low light, the Z Play creates more blurry pictures more frequently due to lack of OIS, the Axon 7 has OIS but worse software and post-processing and creates more over- or underexposed pictures. Since bad exposure ruins pictures less than blurriness, I'd say it wins the duel but only by a hair.
While the Moto Z Play has an excellent, loud and crisp front facing mono speaker and generally great audio quality, the Axon 7 blows it and just about any other phone out of the water with its front facing, Dolby ATMOS enabled speakers.
In many other ways, the Axon 7 is superior to the Z Play only on paper. The SD 820 is faster on paper, but runs hotter and is much more power hunger than the Z Play's SD 625 - the real life performance difference between the two is almost imperceptible in everything but VR and hardcore 3D gaming.
Battery life is no contest, with the Axon 7 being pretty average and the Z Play essentially defining a new standard and effectively lasting twice as long.
Both have excellent displays, with the Axon 7's QHD mostly shining when it comes to VR, but again, difference during regular use is mostly negligible.
Where it all falls down is software and reliability. The software experience on the Z Play is nearly perfect, with an incredibly stable, smooth and near stock experience enhanced only by actually worthwhile features. It also comes with absolutely superior reception, be that WiFi, mobile, GPS or even bluetooth. It's always fast, never overheats and is as reliable as a phone can possibly be. It also comes with relatively fast Android updates and long software support.
ZTE's phone comes with a questionable at best custom UI, crippled stock features, buggy software, an insane amount of bloat and ZTE has a history of abandoning software support for their phones almost instantly, even for their former flagships. The Axon 7 is better than anything they have made before so this may change, but I personally wouldn't rely on that "maybe".
Honestly, ZTE's software overall software experience should be prohibitive at this point. Get a OnePlus 3T instead or, well, get the Z Play - an utterly brilliant phone in everything but overall camera performance (where it is merely good but not great).
If camera trumps all, go for the G5, but you should already be aware of LG's build quality issues - that hasn't changed with the G5 by most accounts.
I'm buying a new device and hard time deciding between G5 plus and Z play.
I like Z play as the battery and screen is better but it also costs 100€ more.
Also I'm concerned as this is a 2016 model. Will it get Android P update when the time comes?
I'd like some opinions and thoughts. Now I'm leaning towards Z play as it is more beautiful device overall.
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I'm buying a new device and hard time deciding between G5 plus and Z play.
I like Z play as the battery and screen is better but it also costs 100€ more.
Also I'm concerned as this is a 2016 model. Will it get Android P update when the time comes?
I'd like some opinions and thoughts. Now I'm leaning towards Z play as it is more beautiful device overall.
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You bet, I just bought a S7 Edge and went back to the Z Play. Even the Z2 play has a smaller battery and very similar specs.
I personally would pay a bit more to get the phone I really like. It will last a couple years easily. As for Android P, nobody knows, but by then it will be out of warranty and you can install a custom rom to get the latest version if you want.
If you want Moto mods then get the Z play over the g5
I just bought the z play 3 days ago I'm coming from a Lenovo p2 and I can say this is a much better built phone and I believe because of the way it is optimised it is likely to give me similar battery life to the P2. And regarding the moto g5 this phone is way better looking and feels very premium compared to the g5.
I personally would've saved a bit more money and gotten the Oneplust3T. You def should consider the Z play if you are on a budget. Its def nothing close to what a flagship would be but this phone gets the regular tasks done.
I bought the z play strictly for the battery life and durability. I could have gone with the z force or any of the iPhones but I work up to 15 hour days with no access to a phone charger so battery life was VERY important to me.... The z force shatter shield looked nice but i just put my z play into a OtterBox defender case, took out the plastic screen protector that came with it and put on tempered glass and it is AWESOME
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I bought a Z Play two weeks ago. The battery life is absolutely fantastic. On a long trip by car my USB cable didn't connect properly and the phone was navigating about 8h. When I arrived I had still 20% battery left.
Fingerprint unlock is quick, the screen is gorgeous and the UI is fluent. DualSIM plus sd card is very nice. In some weeks my external keyboard Moto Mod will arrive and then I will have an extremely long running phone with slide-out keyboard and an additional battery.
So if you like to have a very long battery run-time, the Z Play is the phone to buy.
Hi... Could you post your review on the moto mod keyboard when you got it.?? When mind sharing the site you bought it.. Thanks..!
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the main difference between them is battery size and screen technology. i really wanted an amoled screen since my last phone (nexus 5) had an lcd screen. the battery size difference is probably not a big deal, 3000mah should be enough to last the day. i was able to get a z play open box for $290 on ebay, with no tax. so i paid about $40 more than i would have for the g5s plus. worth it
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the main difference between them is battery size and screen technology. i really wanted an amoled screen since my last phone (nexus 5) had an lcd screen. the battery size difference is probably not a big deal, 3000mah should be enough to last the day. i was able to get a z play open box for $290 on ebay, with no tax. so i paid about $40 more than i would have for the g5s plus. worth it
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I got a brand new Z Play off eBay for $260 boii
I am tempted to change from my aging Nexus 6P (battery sucks) to a used Z Play. I had a Pixel XL for a few days, but it wasn't worth the crazy price. Do you guys think a Z Play is still a good option now? I am a light user, but I want the best battery life I can get.
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Hi... Could you post your review on the moto mod keyboard when you got it.?? When mind sharing the site you bought it.. Thanks..!
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The keyboard mod is a indiegogo campaign. There's also several threads here on XDA.
The mod is not finished yet and it will take some time until you can buy it regularly. Estimated shipping is end of November / beginning of December. Retail starts later.
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I am tempted to change from my aging Nexus 6P (battery sucks) to a used Z Play. I had a Pixel XL for a few days, but it wasn't worth the crazy price. Do you guys think a Z Play is still a good option now? I am a light user, but I want the best battery life I can get.
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Yeah this phone is crazy on battery and even performance doesn't drop. I'd say get it if you can. Its a great phone.
I have the option to get the Moto Z for the same price as the play, actually even 5% less. I'm sure many of Moto Z Play owners who purchased this phone recently might have thought about the regular Z as well. Do you prefer the Play over the regular Z and why? any other reason than battery life? Thanks
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I have the option to get the Moto Z for the same price as the play, actually even 5% less. I'm sure many of Moto Z Play owners who purchased this phone recently might have thought about the regular Z as well. Do you prefer the Play over the regular Z and why? any other reason than battery life? Thanks
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I could've got the regular Z for the same price as the Z play, but I've just ordered the Z Play, pretty much just for battery life
I have the G5, and am ordering a Z Play on monday.
Like the G5 for what it is, but i fwarked up and assumed it had a full suite of sensors. No magnetometer / compass which is bad for me.
Also, the Dual Sim on the G5 only works properly if you have 2G networks for the second sim to latch onto. In Oz those are now defunct so Dual Sim on the G5 doesn't do standby.
Moto Z meets my requirements a lot better and frankly looking forward to the battery life on the Z Play. G5 would do a day of light / med use. Always found the stock rom best for battery life.
"could've got the regular Z for the same price as the Z play, but I've just ordered the Z Play, pretty much just for battery life"
Me same same.
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I have the G5, and am ordering a Z Play on monday.
Like the G5 for what it is, but i fwarked up and assumed it had a full suite of sensors. No magnetometer / compass which is bad for me.
Also, the Dual Sim on the G5 only works properly if you have 2G networks for the second sim to latch onto. In Oz those are now defunct so Dual Sim on the G5 doesn't do standby.
Moto Z meets my requirements a lot better and frankly looking forward to the battery life on the Z Play. G5 would do a day of light / med use. Always found the stock rom best for battery life.
"could've got the regular Z for the same price as the Z play, but I've just ordered the Z Play, pretty much just for battery life"
Me same same.
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I hope you enjoy your new phone when it arrives! I'm very much looking forward to mine arriving, I think I'll run it fully stock.
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I bought the z play strictly for the battery life and durability. I could have gone with the z force or any of the iPhones but I work up to 15 hour days with no access to a phone charger so battery life was VERY important to me.... The z force shatter shield looked nice but i just put my z play into a OtterBox defender case, took out the plastic screen protector that came with it and put on tempered glass and it is AWESOME
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Does the Z Play fit in the Otterbox? What about the headphone jack ?
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Also I hope this helps, I had the OP2 and i bought the Moto Z Play. Got a crazy good deal just paying 50% of the cost in exchange of the OP2. The AMOLED, Type C and the most amazing battery life I have ever used. I'm literally the only one at work who doesn't carry a charger or a power bank, and most of them use flagships and iPhones. With heavy use I'm easily able to get a minimum of 7hrs SOT (WiFi and LTE).
If you can get a goo deal for it, definitely buy it. Moto has promised 8.0 Oreo, in the meanwhile buy the Moto Turbo Power pack for 80$ and you will forget to plug your phone in at all.
Which is the best battery pack mod for it? I don't think I'll ever need it, but it'd be nice to pick one up for the extra juice if I do need it ever
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Which is the best battery pack mod for it? I don't think I'll ever need it, but it'd be nice to pick one up for the extra juice if I do need it ever
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One from Moto. I'm thinking about but phone already has very good battery life, mod is adding extra thickness, it's a bit... not looking nice and cannot be used with case or at least I cannot find just a bumper to protect edges. So I have a feeling that most of the time will just stay at home. The same as power bank I have for years and used just couple of times.
The Z Play is by far the best phone I've owned. It is fast, has a passable camera, the battery life is crazy (especially with the Moto turbo power pack) and the screen is very good too. I've been trying to find a replacement for the past 6 months, but nothing I've tried is a better all round package than this. The OnePlus 5 was nice, but the battery wasn't fantastic and screen wasn't as good. The iPhone 7 I just tried was a whole level below this in performance, screen and battery.
Have any Z Play users tried the Z2 play? If so, was it worth the upgrade. I want to upgrade as I like changing phones, but nothing really compares still!
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The Z Play is by far the best phone I've owned. It is fast, has a passable camera, the battery life is crazy (especially with the Moto turbo power pack) and the screen is very good too. I've been trying to find a replacement for the past 6 months, but nothing I've tried is a better all round package than this. The OnePlus 5 was nice, but the battery wasn't fantastic and screen wasn't as good. The iPhone 7 I just tried was a whole level below this in performance, screen and battery.
Have any Z Play users tried the Z2 play? If so, was it worth the upgrade. I want to upgrade as I like changing phones, but nothing really compares still!
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If I we're going to stick with the Z line, I'd go with the Z3 play rather than the 2.
But none of the newer Z phones feel like enough of an upgrade to me to make it worth the jump.
Based on what I've seen, the OnePlus 6T looks like the best next option to me. I've seen a bunch of screen shots showing 6-8h SoT with long day use, so while it's not up there with the Z play, it seems better than just about anything out there. Better camera is a bonus. I can live with no headphone jack. My biggest 'missing' feature is wireless charging. Price is definitely higher than the z line, but not by the huge margin it would take to get to an S9+ or pixel 3.
I am tempted by the 6T, no headphone jack does annoy me a bit though ...
I think to moto one power or moto z3 play next year when prices have gone down
Or a xiaomi , may be next redmi note pro, the note 6 pro was not really a big update vs Z play
The Z3 play seems to have rubbish battery life though. I do have the turbo power pack to use with it, but even so...
What's it like in terms of camera and speed? I'd rather stick to a Z line phone than go to the OnePlus 6T really, I just prefer these. My 2nd hand Z Play is faultless apart from a very slow camera app!
A brand new Z3 play just sold on eBay for £275, which is only a bit more than I paid for my used Z Play when I got it.
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The Z Play is by far the best phone I've owned. It is fast, has a passable camera, the battery life is crazy (especially with the Moto turbo power pack) and the screen is very good too. I've been trying to find a replacement for the past 6 months, but nothing I've tried is a better all round package than this. The OnePlus 5 was nice, but the battery wasn't fantastic and screen wasn't as good. The iPhone 7 I just tried was a whole level below this in performance, screen and battery.
Have any Z Play users tried the Z2 play? If so, was it worth the upgrade. I want to upgrade as I like changing phones, but nothing really compares still!
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Yup, same boat. At this point the only true upgrade without braking the bank would be a pixel 2 xl for the on-time updates, complete API support and truly superior camera and even then I would still get a bit less battery life out of it, Moto Z play truly is battery king.
I ordered the 6T yesterday, but got buyer's remorse and cancelled it. After only spending £231 on my Z Play, I don't really want to spend £529! Looking at used 6's on eBay, but the battery life seems a bit bad. I keep coming back to the Z2 Play... £199 brand new and I can keep using my turbo power pack. Is the performance much better? My Z play is getting a tad sluggish sometimes...
I ordered the 6T yesterday, but got buyer's remorse and cancelled it. After only spending £231 on my Z Play, I don't really want to spend £529! Looking at used 6's on eBay, but the battery life seems a bit bad. I keep coming back to the Z2 Play... £199 brand new and I can keep using my turbo power pack. Is the performance much better? My Z play is getting a tad sluggish sometimes...
If not, then a Z3 play comes up every now and then for about £275, but the design/functionality seems a bit weird to me
Then again, a 5T would probably be sufficient for my tasks nowadays. My Z Play only drops 20% on my usual work day during the week, so I can't image a 6 or a 5T will drop too much more. The big question is, is the 6 worth £100 more than the 5T currently is?
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Waiting on the international release of the Nokia 8.1 plus (same hardware as the X7 in China)
Then I'll probably retire my Z Play.
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The Z3 play seems to have rubbish battery life though. I do have the turbo power pack to use with it, but even so...
What's it like in terms of camera and speed? I'd rather stick to a Z line phone than go to the OnePlus 6T really, I just prefer these. My 2nd hand Z Play is faultless apart from a very slow camera app!
A brand new Z3 play just sold on eBay for £275, which is only a bit more than I paid for my used Z Play when I got it.
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even if you did not have one already, keep in mind that it's packaged with a 2220mAh powerpack , in the box, so 5220 mAh
True.
I have done a bit more research and I think I'm going to go for a OnePlus 6 or 5T (whichever one comes up as a better deal) I think the lesser battery life is worth it for the bigger screen, better camera and better performance.
Plus, buying used means that if in 3-6 months time I decide I need better battery again, I'll just sell it and get a Z3 Play because OnePlus phones hold their value very well.
Update on this. I have now purchased a pristine OnePlus 6 128gb for £379 (bargain!) I'll let you know how I get on compared to the Z Play
Honestly same, I love my Moto Z Play. If it weren't for the bad experiences I've had a couple times with security patches and the lack of software support I'd stick with it for much longer. But there are other options now that make what this accomplishes seem sub par. Don't get me wrong though. This phone is stable to a fault and I've got a lot of battery life to boot with the power pack attached as well. But The weight, the storage limitations, sub 4GB RAM (which I wouldn't mind if 2 or 3 of my apps weren't so hungry for the stuff) and the aforementioned lack of software support is starting to become more apparent. I'm probably going to keep the phone as a trusty backup though but I think I'm going to save up for the top-end model of the OnePlus 6T because it seems to have everything I love about this phone give or take a few brand specific quirks swapped out (Moto Gestures for Oxygen gestures) plus a better camera and just more overall fluidity. It kinda annoys me too about the headphone jack but I've been mostly using my Sony WH-1000XM3s which support AptX HD and LDAC so I won't be missing it too much plus I'm probably gonna spend a bit extra for all the sense of security stuff plus a case and bullets wired for the sake of convenience. However I'm terms of how much I love the Moto Z Play I'd say it's earned a place in my heart right next to my Nexus 5.
It has also earned a place on my shelf next to the N5 as well lol (sadly the Nexus 5's screen recently shattered finally so thusly the MZP takes it's place as my trusty backup should anything go awry.)
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Nyoir said:
Honestly same, I love my Moto Z Play. If it weren't for the bad experiences I've had a couple times with security patches and the lack of software support I'd stick with it for much longer. But there are other options now that make what this accomplishes seem sub par. Don't get me wrong though. This phone is stable to a fault and I've got a lot of battery life to boot with the power pack attached as well. But The weight, the storage limitations, sub 4GB RAM (which I wouldn't mind if 2 or 3 of my apps weren't so hungry for the stuff) and the aforementioned lack of software support is starting to become more apparent. I'm probably going to keep the phone as a trusty backup though but I think I'm going to save up for the top-end model of the OnePlus 6T because it seems to have everything I love about this phone give or take a few brand specific quirks swapped out (Moto Gestures for Oxygen gestures) plus a better camera and just more overall fluidity. It kinda annoys me too about the headphone jack but I've been mostly using my Sony WH-1000XM3s which support AptX HD and LDAC so I won't be missing it too much plus I'm probably gonna spend a bit extra for all the sense of security stuff plus a case and bullets wired for the sake of convenience. However I'm terms of how much I love the Moto Z Play I'd say it's earned a place in my heart right next to my Nexus 5.
It has also earned a place on my shelf next to the N5 as well lol (sadly the Nexus 5's screen recently shattered finally so thusly the MZP takes it's place as my trusty backup should anything go awry.)
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I realized I digressed haha, just really love the time I've had with this.
Actual advice I'd say is a real toss up for good choices. I really don't like Apple as a company but as of recently I'd say the iPhone X is a pretty good value in terms of optimization but the OS and insistent use of the lightning connector as opposed to USB-C is a deal breaker for me. If those don't mean much to you however I'd say it's a pretty good option.
Huawei has seen similar optimizations in terms of hardware what with the new 7nm SoC soaking up much less battery and pumping out much more performance but I don't know much of their software support in terms of updates or individual app developers considering their devices. I've heard the firmware and camera are amazing though this time around. Again, from my POV the heavy skin is a bit much for me with too many things I wouldn't use personally.
I can't honestly recommend the Pixel 3 devices due to their questionable specs for the price unless all you're looking for is a DSLR camera with optional onboard editing software. But of course software support is amazing.
ANY of the gaming branded phones (Xiaomi Black Shark 2, Razer Phone 2, and the ROG Phone) aren't half bad values disregarding the lack of history for their lines so you won't know if they have good software support at all. The skins are all pretty heavy UI wise minus the Razer Phone 2. Of all of them though I've only seen the Razer Phone 2 in person and it's pretty sleek tbh.
Sony is a mixed bag, I can't think of a specific model off the top of my head but they're generally amazing in one aspect and maybe pretty good in a couple of others but then tank every other category so that's your gamble to take if you wish.
Samsung kinda takes the same page as Google in you're paying a bunch but you're getting that heavy skin on the UI (with some admittedly neat features like Ultra Battery Saver) meh update support, and a nice camera. The difference being that you're also getting a huge battery and more RAM options so it's not as bad a value as the Pixel devices.
Then last but far from least would be the current king of value (due to the Poco F1 DRM failure) which would be the OnePlus 6T. Buying new from OnePlus it's the same price set as the OP6 but the 6T has a larger battery and smaller notch not to mention the first considerably fast in display fingerprint scanner. Dash charging is already a good bonus considering it's one of the fastest charging technologies I'm the phone market. As far as I've seen the phone scores 10s all around (I don't know about speaker performance however) Topping it off with the fact the UI has everything I love about Motorola's tweaking plus a couple more things. Setting the settings and other context menus to black to save a bunch of battery, more options for screen calibration, optimized to be light on the processor and battery to keep it from running down in your pocket. Big downer however is the loss of our dearly departed headphone jack, it's unfortunate but OnePlus said it was time. On the upside however it includes the dongle, the dongle includes a DAC, and the BT codecs included aren't bad either. OnePlus also made a statement not long ago that they're essentially going to be giving their devices Pixel/Nexus-like software support roadmaps further supported by Google's new software support policy.
Ah and frosting on top; It's not $1,000 for 256GB storage, 8GB RAM, and a huge AMOLED panel but about $650
Even with a case/bullets bundle with all the added warranty/damage protection stuff it's still under $1,000 at about $816 so that's why I'm picking the 6T myself.
All those considered however it's largely you're decision what you're most comfortable with getting based off your own experiences and judgement. I just hope it's a purchase you'll wholeheartedly love
OnePlus 6 arrived today.
So far is seems pretty good, it is so quick.
Screen isn't as bright, it is quite dim up until 100%, but not terrible.
Can't comment on the battery yet, but it won't be like the Z Play.
Lovely big screen though! I'll update this in a few days
Update on this, a few weeks on.
Battery life is decent enough, I still get 1-2 days from it with my light usage, heavy usage gets about 7 hours SOT. I'd imagine the 6T is far better though.
It is very fast, I'm yet to notice any slow downs or lag at all, it does everything quickly.
The camera is a mixed bag.. the stock camera app I've found to be slow to capture, but GCAM fixed this. Quality of photos is decent, I still prefer my old Nexus 6P I think though, but this is definitely good enough for most people and if a big upgrade from the Z play.
The screen is fantastic, not as bright as the Z play, but it is lovely to look at.
I think I've covered everything that most people care about.
Overall, I am happy with the upgrade, I wouldn't want to go back to a small screen again I think. It isn't exactly incredible, but it seems to be a good all around phone. It isn't the best in any one category, but it is good in all of them!
The only thing I'd really like to be improved is the battery life, I miss not being about to guarantee 2 days between charges with heavy use!
gman88667733 said:
Update on this, a few weeks on.
Battery life is decent enough, I still get 1-2 days from it with my light usage, heavy usage gets about 7 hours SOT. I'd imagine the 6T is far better though.
It is very fast, I'm yet to notice any slow downs or lag at all, it does everything quickly.
The camera is a mixed bag.. the stock camera app I've found to be slow to capture, but GCAM fixed this. Quality of photos is decent, I still prefer my old Nexus 6P I think though, but this is definitely good enough for most people and if a big upgrade from the Z play.
The screen is fantastic, not as bright as the Z play, but it is lovely to look at.
I think I've covered everything that most people care about.
Overall, I am happy with the upgrade, I wouldn't want to go back to a small screen again I think. It isn't exactly incredible, but it seems to be a good all around phone. It isn't the best in any one category, but it is good in all of them!
The only thing I'd really like to be improved is the battery life, I miss not being about to guarantee 2 days between charges with heavy use!
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Thanks for the follow up on this thread. I'm still on the fence. Had I caught the essential ph-1 deal for $170 on Black Friday that would have been it for me. Then I missed the Z2 Force for $99 yesterday - would have done that too.
Still bouncing around all the $400 - $500 phones. Currently leaning towards the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s, but nearly impossible to find new with 128gb storage.
MZP is still just too good to let go - let's me be too indecisive about upgrades!
I nearly got an essential, but the average battery life put me off. I would say that for most people, it is worth stepping up the price and getting a 6T over a 6, just for the battery life (IMO). However, I am definitely not unhappy with battery life. It is probably on par if not a tad better than my old OnePlus 5
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I nearly got an essential, but the average battery life put me off. I would say that for most people, it is worth stepping up the price and getting a 6T over a 6, just for the battery life (IMO). However, I am definitely not unhappy with battery life. It is probably on par if not a tad better than my old OnePlus 5
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Yeah battery life was a concern for me - though I saw some fairly decent numbers on some of the threads here.
For me it's very much about "bang for the buck" when I get phones. MZP has been the best I've ever had in that regard. LG Optimus G and Moto E 2015 are right up there too.
My Z Play was £231 second hand, so not exactly a bargain, but stepping up to £370 for my OP6 was still a big step in the price. My Z Play will still get used very often as I switch between them frequently
https://www.xda-developers.com/moto-z4-play-leak-48mp-camera-display-fingerprint-sensor/
Finally a worthy replacement