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[Request] Use PS3 controller with Kindle Fire?

I was just curious if anyone had any ideas about if this would be possible. I know Sony recently released an update so one of their tablets could use it. Given the Fire's mini-USB port and the fact that Bluetooth is physically there, any chance we'll get to use a PS3 controller with Kindle Fire? I have never been into the touch screen controls for games like Zenonia. And I think being able to play it with a PS3 controller on Kindle Fire would be pretty sweet. I already did a few Google searches but couldn't find any information about this working.
Another great thing about this, would be that we could theoretically use the gyroscope in the PS3 controller for other stuff.
I'm still new to this scene so I'm not sure what all would be needed, but wanted to bring it up while I had it on my mind.

MichaelVash7886 said:
I was just curious if anyone had any ideas about if this would be possible. I know Sony recently released an update so one of their tablets could use it. Given the Fire's mini-USB port and the fact that Bluetooth is physically there, any chance we'll get to use a PS3 controller with Kindle Fire? I have never been into the touch screen controls for games like Zenonia. And I think being able to play it with a PS3 controller on Kindle Fire would be pretty sweet. I already did a few Google searches but couldn't find any information about this working.
Another great thing about this, would be that we could theoretically use the gyroscope in the PS3 controller for other stuff.
I'm still new to this scene so I'm not sure what all would be needed, but wanted to bring it up while I had it on my mind.
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It's a slim possibility only if someone finds a way of getting Bluetooth to work, but even then it's down to someone to write the the code to make the PS3 controller function, and then the game either has to support it, or there needs to be a driver layer that can emulate the screen touches/gyroscope.
However, as currently the KF only supports 2 finger touch, and nobody knows if that is a hardware or firmware limitation, that might also be a show stopper.
An external joystick would be nice, but I'm thinking there are quite a number of hurdles to overcome first!

IF u had cm7 installed on ur kindle and they got the bluetooth to work then u could use ur ps3 controller on ur kindle as cm7 lets u use a app called sixxaxis which lets u sync ur ps3 controller with bluetooth to ur phone and u can play games on ur phone with ur ps3 controller. It works perfectly on my sgs2 running cm7

movieaddict said:
cm7 lets u use a app called sixxaxis which lets u sync ur ps3 controller with bluetooth
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That is an interesting app for sure, never seen that before. It could be worth a shot if they overcome the Bluetooth limitation.
I might see if this works on my Droid, as I'm still skeptical about the button/touch emulation. However, it does have good reviews so it might be a good working solution.

sl0ttedpig said:
That is an interesting app for sure, never seen that before. It could be worth a shot if they overcome the Bluetooth limitation.
I might see if this works on my Droid, as I'm still skeptical about the button/touch emulation. However, it does have good reviews so it might be a good working solution.
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I forgot about that app, but I have heard good things about it. If they can get Bluetooth then as you said, could be our solution. In fact, I'd think it'd make the process fairly easy after that.

[Q] Lightpack Prismatik for Rooted Anrdoid devices running on Fire TV

I'm hoping someone who has the Ambilight or Lightpack setup on their TV will root a Fire TV and test running Prismatik. Prismatik communicates with lightpack leds to let them know what color to change to match on-screen content. The android beta requires root access to screen grab. The big questions for me are:
1) Will rooting the FireTV disable any of its features (i.e. Amazon Instant Video)?
2) How does the lightpack connect to the FireTV (or OUYA for that matter)? It hooks to the PC via USB.
I imagine that it will work similarly to the way it works with the OUYA but I'd like to see someone else make it work before I buy one. I am an Amazon Prime customer and I love the idea of the Fire TV but I would like to be able to retire the laptop that is running Prismatik before introducing another box.

Fellow Lightpack owner here, seconding the OP. This looks like it has so much potential.

Not really..
If you already have a HTPC( which i guess you do - because lightpack) there's a work around for this..

If this ends up working without any negatives I'm buying this ASAP. Looks great!

Suhas_v said:
If you already have a HTPC( which i guess you do - because lightpack) there's a work around for this..
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I don't have a HTPC but I've got an old laptop hooked up for that purpose. I am currently running everything through it via the workaround but I'd like to get the laptop out of the equation and just simplify with the Fire TV running XBMC, if it'll work.

I received my FireTV and can't seem to get the Lightpack to be detected. I tried on my Ouya and I am noticing that the popup screen that occurs when Pristmatik detects the Lightpack isn't happening on my FireTV; searching for a work around.

Amazon Fire TV Stick and the PS4 Controller

Has anybody else had any luck pairing a PS4 controller with the Amazon Fire TV Stick? I saw that with the Amazon Fire TV you hold share and power, and you can then pair them. On the Stick everything seems to go about the same, except then it says 'Unable to pair' when you select Wireless Controller.

Hey i'm having the same problem. I don't have the Fire TV but have read something similar to what you said. If you figure out a method plz let me know.

Same here
Having the same issue here. Can't seem to figure it out;

Any updates guys?

khb008 said:
Any updates guys?
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I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.

Ualdayan said:
I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.
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I also tried with the settings apk. My problem was that the controller would not even show up in the Settings.apk Bluetooth menu. On the other hand, it showed up in the Bluetooth controllers options but did not connect.
Other people have had success connecting the Ouya controller thus I think its not that they don't want ANY 3rd party controllers, its just that the Bluetooth driver and/or hardware they're using is different than the Fire TV. Which is really sad because the ONLY reason I bought the Fire TV stick was because I read PS4 controller works out of the box with FireTV.

Same issue for me and I'm really bummed. Any other things to try besides the settings.apk? I have a feeling this is a cut cost hardware issue.

same issue
I have just spoken with amazon and according to them the PS4 controller is not compatible. I too saw an youtube video where someone was able to pair it, if anyone has a solution to this issue please let me know, I really don't want to wait for the playpad pro that is optimazied for amazon since its back ordered

I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)

BOBdotEXE said:
I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)
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Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?

binary01 said:
Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?
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I don't believe so, the ds4 acts as a generic bluetooth controller,
the ds3/sixaxis dose not.
but feel free to try, I do not have any with me at the time, so I can not check.

have there been any updates to this? the Settings.apk is not working for me, it closes out when I attempt attach a bluetooth controller. I am trying to connect my ps4 controller through bluetooth for a lag free experience. So far after connecting it I get a ton of lag on the controller.

the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though

MrWolfman said:
the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though
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unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller

rrussell50 said:
unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller
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my lag isnt that bad at all tbh, i can play sonic 1 no problems, i can play nintendo emulator no problems, i think the lag may be due to the distance from the stick to the controller, my distance is about 2 metres from the stick maybe just over, if you live in a BIG house with over 5 metre distance then yes there would obviously be lag

If you need an alternative controller I have a thread for that Here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267

I haven't managed to get the ds4 paired via Bluetooth as yet but whilst trying I connected it to a powered usb hub which is connected to the stick which is rooted and has OTG enabled.
It worked immediately wired.
As soon as I pulled the cable though the stick rebooted. But if your desperate, rooted and have an OTG cable you can connect your ds4 to you fire stick.
FYI My old wired xbox 360 (afterglow) didn't work when that was connected.

Hello all. Sorry to bump this ancient thread but its the first google result when looking for help. So i had problems using my ps4 controller on my firetv myself as it appears amazon has cut support for game controllers on firetv. Lucky enough there is an easy fix.
Simply download and install Easy Fire Tools onto a smartphone.
Easy Fire Tools - Apps on Google Play
Install your favorite apps on FireTv and other android devices
play.google.com
Then download and install Bluetooth Pair
Bluetooth Pair - Apps on Google Play
Bluetooth pairing - automated. Simply turn on Bluetooth and connect!
play.google.com
Then just sideload Bluetooth Pair app to firetv and use it to connect to game controller.
This method works to where you dont need to pair the remote every time you want to use with firetv. Simply turn on and it will connect.
Cheers!

I'm having the same issue. Although I do not own a Fire TV, I have read something that sounds similar to what you have described. Please let me know if you come up with a solution.

Pros and Cons of AFTV after using for 3 weeks.

So i had the AFTV up and running for about 3 weeks and there are some great things but few annoying issues are out waving all pros in my view. I only use it for xbmc as media center. I am curious to hear how other are using and feel about it.
Pros
1) Really great hardware and Spec for $70 which is what i paid and it is hard to find anything out there with these spec, plus remote for this price.
2) xbmc is super fast so are other update, everything loads up fast.
Cons:
1) The amount of storage capacity that is actually available for usage after installing few things is 3.5gb and i don't have single game installed.
2) Recently noticed wifi and wired connection issued, unable to connect or connected with a problem. Try rebooting AFTV many times but didn't work until i rebooted my router. All my other devices were working fine except AFTV.
3) unable to view sideload apps under apps menu.
4) unable to actually shut down the box, beside unplugging the power supply
5) Remote is great but gosh it would have been awesome if it was an universal remote that would control your tv with basic functions channel and volume button instead of voice search.
6) Unable to actually use the USB as external storage, my AFTV out of the box from amazon had 4.85gb free space from (5.49 gb) and the box it self has 8gb. Yes i know you can increased your storage after you have rooted your fire tv and i have rooted but amazon has just put one too many blocks for average user.
7) Forcing auto updates to AFTV and not letting user decided if they want to update or not.
8) i am always scared something will go wrong with AFTV since so many folks have managed to brick the fire tv and there is no way to fix it.
Personally for xbmc i love my Raspberry Pi B, sure it slower and not sexy as AFTV but never has to worry about bricking it and i have this running in my living room running for over 1 year with any issues except i may have to reboot is once or twice a week cuz some addon takes for ever and i just don't have patient. It plays 1080 and 3d movies flawless once you run this things on 8gb USB 3.0 with 0 cache setting.
If Amazon goal was to use the AFTV just for there echo system than this leads me believe with future firmware updates they will remove the ability for user to side load apps. Anyone else see this as possibility?
Thank you

I have a Fire TV, a Flirc, and a vintage MX-500 universal remote clone.
The Fire is un-rooted, have OTA turned off, and I have side-loaded FiredTV, Firefox, Adobe Flash, and Kodi with 1Channel, IceFlims, and Genesis. (Two out of the three I don't even use.)
Pros
2) I've had many streaming devices. This is far and away the best hardware.
Cons
1) Did I read another post by you that the box is actually complaining about running out of storage?
EDIT: Nope. Wasn't you.
2) If you can't resolve this as a network or setup or ISP issue, I'd be concerned that your box might be defective.
3) FiredTV.
4) Flirc for sleep/wake. The majority of streaming devices are expected to stay on and either go to sleep or deep sleep. That way they wake up instantly and can accept (unauthorized) OTA updates.
5) I'm sending back a Harmony 650. But if I hadn't already had what Remote Central says is one of the best they'd ever tested, I might have kept it.
6) True. But not a show-stopper for me.
7) Turn off OTA updates. This isn't unique to the Fire TV.
8) Only happens when you dink with it. :cyclops: Not really a con though, is it?
I have a Pi B. I also have a Neo X5 and just gave my sister a Roku 3. The performance of those devices pales significantly when compared to the Fire TV. IMHO. Of all the devices I've had over the last several years, barring any defects, all were functional but useability on some was questionable. The Fire TV stands head and shoulders above the crowd in performance. Now if Amazon would only get their head out of their posterior and sell a more open device maybe "with special features," I think they'd take the market by storm. It's already their #1 selling item.

[Q] A few questions about Fire TV

Here is what my needs are :
Netflix
XBMC reading files off a NAS/SMB or USB drive, or some other video player
Some emulators using a Ps3 controller.
Is this still a good solution for this, or should I just go with something like this - http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00OTK8OZ0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1F1P6OW46LBLQ
My wife is in the States this week so I can get her to pick a Fire TV up.
Thanks.

Netflix/xbmc/smb/nas all fine and run great. I would recommend spmc over kodi/xbmc though, but try both.
videos from USB drive can be done but only with root and StickMount. Root is only possible on older fire tvs. If this is something you want/need, maybe ask your wife to check the serial numbers on the boxes shes finds (my gf would just laugh at me if I asked ;P). Here is a guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-decode-an-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick-serial-number/
PS3 controller can be paired with an aftv, but also required root access and has some slight annoyances (like needing to launch the sixasis app first before each use and stopping it after each use, plus the remote doesn't work at the same time). Thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710632
But you have other options. PS4 controller works better, and I think does not need root. 360 controller (which I know has a crappy d-pad for emulators) or the official controller. Or even something like the NES30.
I can't speak to the box you linked, but I love my fire tv! If you are flexible on the PS3 controller, then you I think you're good to go.

eskay993 said:
Netflix/xbmc/smb/nas all fine and run great. I would recommend spmc over kodi/xbmc though, but try both.
videos from USB drive can be done but only with root and StickMount. Root is only possible on older fire tvs. If this is something you want/need, maybe ask your wife to check the serial numbers on the boxes shes finds (my gf would just laugh at me if I asked ;P). Here is a guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-decode-an-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick-serial-number/
PS3 controller can be paired with an aftv, but also required root access and has some slight annoyances (like needing to launch the sixasis app first before each use and stopping it after each use, plus the remote doesn't work at the same time). Thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710632
But you have other options. PS4 controller works better, and I think does not need root. 360 controller (which I know has a crappy d-pad for emulators) or the official controller. Or even something like the NES30.
I can't speak to the box you linked, but I love my fire tv! If you are flexible on the PS3 controller, then you I think you're good to go.
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Thanks for the info, for what I want it for root will most likely be needed. I will have to order it from Amazon.com and get it delivered to her hotel so checking the serial is out of the question. I am sure it is answered somewhere, but why has no root been found for newer versions?

In that case you may be lucky and get a rootable one. There are reports that Amazon.com are still shipping them, but that was a while ago (maybe 2 months ago).
I don't know the specifics as to why newer ones aren't rooted yet, but from what I understand the original firmware versions had a old Android exploit that allowed root, which was eventually patched. A new exploit hasn't been found, but awesomely dedicated people are working on it There is a hardware root, but I have no experience with it. There's a thread about it here on xda.