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Mangos out for Devs

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...velopers-get-goody-basket-full-of-mangos.aspx
Hopefully we can install it on unlocked devices.

Crazziee said:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...velopers-get-goody-basket-full-of-mangos.aspx
Hopefully we can install it on unlocked devices.
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let us pray

They say the rom can only be flashed once by a dev once it's downloaded. I wonder if that's going to be a problem for some dev teams.

I'm curious about how much security Microsoft has put into this, and how it's gonna work. If it's an image, we can extract it. If it's one of those CAB-based updates, we can.. obtain it. But here's my guess-Microsoft probably added some serious security, given as they know what we attempt, and there may very well be some activation involved in this.
Anyone who gets it install wanna comment?

Actually the big issue for me, when I read the mile long remarks you have to accept to get it is this:
you can't update to the final Mango without rolling back first to the backup you do now.
So when final Mango will come out, I will lose all my sms, game progress, etc I got from now to this winter. I'm not sure I'd like to that

Did anyone of you already get a email by Connect?
I am registered via Dreamspark and didn't get a mail yet.
Do only the paying people getting the update and students not?

freeriders said:
Did anyone of you already get a email by Connect?
I am registered via Dreamspark and didn't get a mail yet.
Do only the paying people getting the update and students not?
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Students will get it, but it's a phased roll out right now. What I heard, anyway

Jaxbot said:
Students will get it, but it's a phased roll out right now. What I heard, anyway
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Ok that's good to hear.

"Next two weeks" is the timeline, I think

andycted said:
"Next two weeks" is the timeline, I think
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Cue the NoDo roll out jokes, please

Damn I wish I registered for a developer account last year like I planned. Guess I need to register now.
https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/86091869116825600
http://create.msdn.com/en-US/news/Mango_Beta

i'm registered, i'm from poland and i can't download mango rom

andycted said:
Actually the big issue for me, when I read the mile long remarks you have to accept to get it is this:
you can't update to the final Mango without rolling back first to the backup you do now.
So when final Mango will come out, I will lose all my sms, game progress, etc I got from now to this winter. I'm not sure I'd like to that
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Maybe the anytime backup tool will help...

fb401 said:
They say the rom can only be flashed once by a dev once it's downloaded. I wonder if that's going to be a problem for some dev teams.
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I asked to Brandon Watson and got an answer :
BrandonWatson said:
@xcell_miguel update all your phones, we will only support one if it breaks
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Miguel12345 said:
I asked to Brandon Watson and got an answer :
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So wait.. we can update multiple phones?

Jaxbot said:
So wait.. we can update multiple phones?
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That doesn't sound too logical to me, but will try it as soon as I get the email.
EDIT: It's true. Update up to 10 (3 for students), get one replaced if something goes wrong.

It makes perfect sense to me — they'll only replace one phone per account if the update bricks your phone. But if you're willing to take the risk, you can update more phones.

nezz said:
That doesn't sound too logical to me, but will try it as soon as I get the email.
EDIT: It's true. Update up to 10 (3 for students), get one replaced if something goes wrong.
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so developper can share it so?

they should be able to.

Can someone explain the procedure? Haven't got my mail yet.

Samsung Galaxy S II gets Android 2.3.6 update

I haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, and yes, I know there's another thread about the "confirmed" Dec update from a top dev but I figured this is worthy of its own thread. Sounds like the update might only be for the GSM versions of the phone, and we might have to wait for our specific Epic Touch update, but things must be close at this point.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-android-236-update/

Go figure....
Sent from the future.

Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!

[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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Indeed my friend.
Sent from the future.

Carriers hold back updates??? They would never do such thing.
I know some updates the carrier has to purchase from the manufacturer and some are free. I don't quite understand where the dividing line is but having to pay for an update would surely slow down a carrier's intention of pushing an update.

Warning about updates
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.

so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?

ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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Can't wait hah

i hope sprint drops ics first and all you people *****ing about no updates can be quiet for once.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA App

weltwon said:
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
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Well said!!
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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Amen brotha!

Once the first XDA user who knows what they're doing gets an update, it will be posted here so fast that many will find out about it here, not by getting it via OTA. They push them out over several days so most likely there will be a full stock tar to Odin before many of us get it.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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OK... Thanks.. I didn't know how it worked. This is my first rooted phone.
Sent from my Epic 4G Touch

[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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What the..... ?
How...?
Because the international version is getting something first?
Okay.... the international version also came out first.
The international versions of Samsung devices always get it first.
Samsung has proven time and time again that they are more concerned about the international market than they are the U.S.
It's funny how quickly people forget about history when trying to assign blame.
It's like XDA members live their lives to blame the carriers for everything.
Dammit, it's raining and cold out side, stupid Sprint!

It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.

Dchibro said:
It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It's GSM.
There's very little, if any difference, between the international version of the SGS2 and the At&t version.

People also seem to forget that the Moment got Froyo before the Hero did.

looks like were getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!

expertzero1 said:
looks like where getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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Given Samsung's spotty support for CDMA devices, I'd rather they spend time on ICS.

We should be getting a update tonight or tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362744
One member got a update pushed to their phone but has to wait till after class so the devs can work their magic. Its android 2.3.6
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T-Mobile Publishes Software Update Tracker Webpage

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/2...le-publishes-software-update-tracker-webpage/
LG G3 is not listed.

Figures... Thanks for the link though

But no LG phones are listed, so it must be unlisted for a reason other than no update coming...

Nexus 6 isn't listed either. I'm pretty sure being omitted from that list does not mean the G3 isn't getting lollipop.

I am not quite sure as to how the LG G3 Lollipop update was left off of the list, but I am happy to report it is in the T-Mobile testing phase. And our testing is going really well. I will reach out to product development and try to get it added to the list. Thank you for pointing this out.
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Being taken care of.

Yeah that's pretty friggin depressing when our phone isn't even listen as a device on the timeline.

pypen said:
Being taken care of.
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Where did this come from?

Jason Syn said:
Yeah that's pretty friggin depressing when our phone isn't even listen as a device on the timeline.
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Agreed

G3 is now listed as 'Manufacturer Development'.

Why on earth is T-Mobile just now in the testing phase when every other carrier has had a release. T -mobile is the new Verizon when it comes to updates, very sad. I expected more from the uncarrier.

Maybe they are trying to fix the roaming data connectivity issues wrt IPv6. See the old threads.

jrglasson said:
Maybe they are trying to fix the roaming data connectivity issues wrt IPv6. See the old threads.
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Could be, T-Mobile is the only carrier using IPV6 only on LTE (if I'm not mistaken). They could also have required VoLTE be working, so LG could be taking longer to make sure all this works. Still sucks that it's taking so long.

i had to move from a nexus 5 to a lg g3, what a regression when you see t-mobile slowing such updates!

I've been using a Moto X 2nd Gen. New job has the silly policy of not allowing rooted devices to access our craptastic Lotus Notes e-mail. The G3's KitKat build is unusable without root. Hoping Lollipop is better, otherwise the G3 will be finding a new home.

bedroidapp said:
i had to move from a nexus 5 to a lg g3, what a regression when you see t-mobile slowing such updates!
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Lol
Sent from my LG-D851

havanahjoe said:
I've been using a Moto X 2nd Gen. New job has the silly policy of not allowing rooted devices to access our craptastic Lotus Notes e-mail. The G3's KitKat build is unusable without root. Hoping Lollipop is better, otherwise the G3 will be finding a new home.
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You could use RootCloak on Lotus Notes so your work wouldn't be able to detect it.
Sent from my LG-D851 using XDA Free mobile app

prp2 said:
You could use RootCloak on Lotus Notes so your work wouldn't be able to detect it.
Sent from my LG-D851 using XDA Free mobile app
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I tried. Didn't work. They use Airwatch and I couldn't get anything to fool it on the G3 while rooted.
But now that you pointed me to it again, I searched through the RootCloak thread and apparently there is a version of Airwatch that can be fooled. I'll have to try it and see if I can get it working on my G3. That would be awesome.

havanahjoe said:
I tried. Didn't work. They use Airwatch and I couldn't get anything to fool it on the G3 while rooted.
But now that you pointed me to it again, I searched through the RootCloak thread and apparently there is a version of Airwatch that can be fooled. I'll have to try it and see if I can get it working on my G3. That would be awesome.
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It worked! Now I need a good Lollipop rom. Thank you!!

xlxcrossing said:
Why on earth is T-Mobile just now in the testing phase when every other carrier has had a release. T -mobile is the new Verizon when it comes to updates, very sad. I expected more from the uncarrier.
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The answer is so simple...
There's developmental teams for each region and NOT all of them finish at the same time... The last responses shows how childish some people are. Some devices get finished on other carriers and some don't. T-Mobile isn't always the first and they are not always the last. You can say that with ANY carrier.
If manufacturers really wanted to fix this problem they should take away the carrier options they give them, and then have a single base phone so they only need to code for a single device(iPhone 6, and 6+ as an example they are all exactly the same). Of course device prices would get more expensive then people will complain how expensive they are while blaming the carrier for the prices.

Tidbits said:
The answer is so simple...
There's developmental teams for each region and NOT all of them finish at the same time... The last responses shows how childish some people are. Some devices get finished on other carriers and some don't. T-Mobile isn't always the first and they are not always the last. You can say that with ANY carrier.
If manufacturers really wanted to fix this problem they should take away the carrier options they give them, and then have a single base phone so they only need to code for a single device(iPhone 6, and 6+ as an example they are all exactly the same). Of course device prices would get more expensive then people will complain how expensive they are while blaming the carrier for the prices.
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The fact of the matter being LG had 5.0 in hand early to mid Q4 and many carriers were putting finishing touches on their certification by the end of the year. We are now 2 months in to Q1 and every carriers' update status has surpassed ours. When you say there are different development teams for each region I assume you mean domestically which makes perfect sense but isn't that a nice way of saying "we're not ready yet". I'm not one to usually ***** about updates because it makes things less enjoyable in most cases but I'm a little blown away. When I heard LG G3 was one of the first handsets scheduled to get lollipop I thought for sure T-Mobile would shine once more. I just need to modify my definition of "soon" because in T-Mobile's dictionary the definition is a month or more.

Developer Edition?

Any rumors about plans for a Note 7 DE?

I got the note 4 DE but sold it after a year cause I wanted to use the banking features and other stuff which even with root cloak it wouldn't work. I thought I would die without root as Ive had it on every phone ive ever had but its not so bad anymore. I just miss the customizations but its no big deal anymore.

I think the only benefits to root now are totally removing system apps and bloatware. Unless you're really into flashing or using a custom kernel, then it's not worth it.
You can remove ads with adguard, change your launcher to Nova and have it how you like, you can also block bloatware and system apps with certain apps as well.
While I do admit, for people that like to keep their phones for a long time, it's nice to be able to constantly update to the latest OS if you have a good community working on it, but I rarely keep phones past their end of update age. There was a time where I would refuse to buy a phone if it meant I couldn't root/flash a custom rom but I'm over that. Phones now have some great baked in features as is anyways, and it's worth it to keep them stock for me now. Just get anything that you know will be popular so it gets reliable updates.

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Any rumors about plans for a Note 7 DE?
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I believe that they have stopped doing developers editions. I remember they pulled like 70ish models down one day from the developers' edition section on their site and haven't put any more up since. Nobody really knows what they did with them or why they stopped.
I was planning on buying another Note 4 DE so I kept tabs on the amount that was in stock. I'm guessing they will never have another DE model. I hope I'm wrong though.

Note 7 Dev
yearn2burn said:
Any rumors about plans for a Note 7 DE?
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Samsung said there will be a Dev version. Just have no release date.

Press Buttons said:
Samsung said there will be a Dev version. Just have no release date.
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Where did they say that?

jal3223 said:
Where did they say that?
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It's A secret

Press Buttons said:
It's A secret
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I hope you're right, but I doubt it. Like I said before, they pulled like 70ish Developer's edition Note 4s off the shelf abruptly and haven't had one since. They also skipped the Note 5. I just can't see them jumping back in that boat. Hope I'm wrong though.

jal3223 said:
I hope you're right, but I doubt it. Like I said before, they pulled like 70ish Developer's edition Note 4s off the shelf abruptly and haven't had one since. They also skipped the Note 5. I just can't see them jumping back in that boat. Hope I'm wrong though.
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For some reason i can't upload a picture to show you.

Press Buttons said:
For some reason i can't upload a picture to show you.
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I think it is because you are a new user. PM it to me and I will post it for you.

Any more word on this?

don't get your hopes up guys, "press buttons" is just pressing your buttons.

New update for A51 & A71

Samsung has released a new software update bringing a range of leading Galaxy S20 features to the Galaxy A series. Galaxy A51 and A71 device users will now be able to harness some of the Galaxy S20 series’ powerful innovations, designed to make the way we capture, connect and share more dynamic than ever before.
https://news.samsung.com/global/gal...features-thanks-to-the-latest-software-update
Update 14-07-2020: Updated received on my unlocked A71.
It's 1842,98MB

It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update

JordyEGNL said:
Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update
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What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?

DonAndress said:
What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?
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You can search online for the difference between the two. I really want Audio Share so I can share audio with friends

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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ROTFL [emoji28]
Where did you see me saying that I'm not happy with my phone? I actually think it's brilliant (especially the battery) while costs a fraction of S20 [emoji3]
But at the same time I'm not gonna praise all software changes it gets if I don't like it. That's called being a fanboy, buddy.
You seem not to understand what I say. But you can always ask [emoji6]

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.

andreoide said:
Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.
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No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.

Yepi69 said:
No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.
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What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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Can you guys please discuss this somewhere else? Thank you

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.

Yepi69 said:
If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.
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Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Yepi69 said:
Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.
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Can you guys please make a new thread and don't spam this one with your discussion? Thank you

As for updates , my UK unlocked A71 is still on April 1 update , I know the A 71 will get updates in a " big " lump.. every quarter, but I would prefer incremental updates, rather than a huge update .. if it ever gets here .. i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock

drchip42 said:
i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock
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Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?

DonAndress said:
Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?
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No it was fab , got want I wanted etc.. but I've been there done that, it was good, but took time. hence now just want " out of the box" with nova launcher. It's even helped me get full java games, apps, etc on my Chromebook .
That's why I'm still here, as they say " once you tweak you can never turn back!!"

Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.

arecad said:
Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.
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I'm in the same place. I have the a71 but am new to Samsung and how they update.