Is there any HW difference between Mi Max/Max Prime Chinese and Global? - Xiaomi Mi Max Questions & Answers

Hi everyone,
I know the Xiaomi Mi Max is officially sold in China and India.
Apparently the version from China is compatible with several LTE Bands worldwide.
My doubt is: As of now, is there any hardware difference for this device sold in China / India / (wherever else it may being sold officially)?
Also, is there any differenze in size between Mi Max (32/64GB rom, 3GB ram) and Mi Max Prime (128GB, 4GB ram)?
I am trying to understand this in order to order an appropriate cover
Thanks in advance

dragXDA123 said:
Hi everyone,
I know the Xiaomi Mi Max is officially sold in China and India.
Apparently the version from China is compatible with several LTE Bands worldwide.
My doubt is: As of now, is there any hardware difference for this device sold in China / India / (wherever else it may being sold officially)?
Also, is there any differenze in size between Mi Max (32/64GB rom, 3GB ram) and Mi Max Prime (128GB, 4GB ram)?
I am trying to understand this in order to order an appropriate cover
Thanks in advance
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there is no difference with respect to hardware btw the chinese & indian manufactured mi max.they have the same hardware save for a few minor differences in make of camera,touch panel,screens,camera sensors etc.although they are frm diff manufacturers, they are specced the same.the diff comes in form of preloaded os.again though both are the same,chinese ones will be preloaded with chinese stable firmware and indian units(which i personally own) have global stable firmware.the major diff in terms of software would be chinese localized app and absense of google apps in chinese stable,while in global stable comes with google apps preloaded.that where the differences end.the overall physical dimensions remain the same.you can cross install firmware if u wish
now coming to the diff btw the 3/32 vs 4/128 there is slight diff in soc.the 3/32 called "hydrogen" has hexacore(2x1.8ghz a72+4x1.4ghz a53) snapdragon 650 while the 4/128 called "helium" has octacore(4x1.8ghz a72+4x1.4ghz a53) snapdragon 652soc.the gpu is the same in both versions.again there will be no diff in the physical dimensions btw the 2 models

wingryder said:
there is no difference with respect to hardware btw the chinese & indian manufactured mi max.they have the same hardware save for a few minor differences in make of camera,touch panel,screens,camera sensors etc.although they are frm diff manufacturers, they are specced the same.the diff comes in form of preloaded os.again though both are the same,chinese ones will be preloaded with chinese stable firmware and indian units(which i personally own) have global stable firmware.the major diff in terms of software would be chinese localized app and absense of google apps in chinese stable,while in global stable comes with google apps preloaded.that where the differences end.the overall physical dimensions remain the same.you can cross install firmware if u wish
now coming to the diff btw the 3/32 vs 4/128 there is slight diff in soc.the 3/32 called "hydrogen" has hexacore(2x1.8ghz a72+4x1.4ghz a53) snapdragon 650 while the 4/128 called "helium" has octacore(4x1.8ghz a72+4x1.4ghz a53) snapdragon 652soc.the gpu is the same in both versions.again there will be no diff in the physical dimensions btw the 2 models
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Thanks for your answer.
Is it correct to say I can install the Global rom on a device coming from China, and get the very same result (besides minor hw differences) as buying it in India (for example)?
Also, since I understand you have the global edition , could you say if it supports full disk encryption on MIUI 8 (from settings > privacy or something like that), in a way that without unlock code the phone doesn't start at all?
(as reference, there is also this - unanswered - question about this topic :http://c.mi.com/in/thread-4401-1-1.html)
Thank you

yes, you can. but you must look for the right on coz always 2 global roms comes.
One for the Mi max with 16 and 32 gb (hydrogen) or the rom for the 32 and 128 gb mi max (helium).
greets
Peter
PS: Best rom ever, no more need RR
LED-Control, auto Callrecord, dt2wake, fast, super battery, so stable!
xiaomi.eu Miui 8.1

dragXDA123 said:
Thanks for your answer.
Is it correct to say I can install the Global rom on a device coming from China, and get the very same result (besides minor hw differences) as buying it in India (for example)?
Also, since I understand you have the global edition , could you say if it supports full disk encryption on MIUI 8 (from settings > privacy or something like that), in a way that without unlock code the phone doesn't start at all?
(as reference, there is also this - unanswered - question about this topic :http://c.mi.com/in/thread-4401-1-1.html)
Thank you
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for the 1part of the question answer is yes
for the 2nd part of the question,as far as i know,since the data partition is encrypted, after the device boots up,u'll be presented with the password (login) screen,and unless u enter the the password u wont see the homescreen,and no one will be able to access ur data.the only way to use the device is to format the data partition with custom recovery and install new new rom at which point all ur data would be permanent ly erased.

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Redmi Note 5 Pro - 20MP 6Gb Ram.....Band 20(800)?!

Hello everyone,
I would be interested in the version with the 20mp camera and 6gb of ram.
Unfortunately I noticed that this version is not sold with the banada 20 (800) and is only in the CN version.
Do you expect me to wait? do you think will release the version that I would like to take?
Or I take the CN version trying to put the International / Global ROM and to unlock the band 20 (800)?
What do you recommend?
Thank you
Using a global rom does not "unlock" B20. Global version and global rom is not the same thing. Unfortunately people keep getting confused about that. (Well I mean it is confusing to a general user.)
Chinese version (of the device) comes with the bands they use, the hardware it has does not support B20. You have to wait until Xiaomi release the global version of the device, then you'll have the B20 you need.
As far as I know global version of the rom is only global because it contains all the languages, not just chinese (correct me if I am wrong).
There are some good news
https://mobile.twitter.com/rquandt/status/973921734268276736?ref_
Good news is relative...
Very expensive compared to the price in other markets and no 6/64GB version. With this price, no need for redmi note 5 pro, pay a little bit more and you get xiaomi mi note 3 and others... (with 6/64GB and even 6/128GB, hope there will be a band 20 version soon)
Bib_x said:
Good news is relative...
Very expensive compared to the price in other markets and no 6/64GB version. With this price, no need for redmi note 5 pro, pay a little bit more and you get xiaomi mi note 3 and others... (with 6/64GB and even 6/128GB, hope there will be a band 20 version soon)
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The chance that mi note 3 gets band 20 is near zero. Mi note 3 is also missing 3.5mm jack and there is nearly no development.
For 270€ the note 5 pro would be perfect for me, every other phone has some deal breakers like no development, small battery or something else
Hello everyone, I'm sorry to reopen this discussion but ...... is it possible that they sold this version: "xiaomi redmi note 5 6gb (Cam 12 + 5/13) with band 20 (800)?"
sorry to bring this thread up again but I'm looking for the 6GB/64GB redmi note 5 version myself. (not for me though).
pdadb does list it as band 20 here:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...te_64gb_meg7s__xiaomi_whyred&d=detailed_specs
but all sites who sell them don't list enough specifications if its truly the global version.
so this is all really confusing. I don't want to end up ordering a 6GB version without Band 20.
can anyone find any indication that the following sites has the correct version?
https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xia...nch-6GB-64GB-Smartphone-Rose-Gold-393535.html
(yes needs to be rose gold. it will be a present.)
also does anyone know what image sensor the devices comes with?
I have the same problem.
I would like to take this LINK version but I do not find feedback on the internet.
6gb ram with band 20 (800) ?! does anyone know if this version really exists?
Guys I am not sure but I think the global version with band 20, it comes only with 3/4 GB ram
how to check if the phone really has the hardware and facility to support those mentioned GSM, LTE bands etc?
3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...
Hunteres said:
3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...
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How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?
gsmyth said:
How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?
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Its good...i mean i notice no difference between galasy s8 and note 5 pro..i am using bose qc20.... i mean i am really impressed....
I have the black version.... Case is a must...so you wont notice the back.... But its solid good build..not some wobley design...its really sturdy.
Hunteres said:
3GB AND 4GB - Using it myself are called global - they are designed for Europe and they do indeed have bad 20 - unfortunately it seems that there will be no 6gb version that will be for europe - so for now its not an option.
hint: i came from galaxy s8 - yes - and i love the phone so far. in terms of speed absolutely beast and the rom management is way better - 4gb is more then enough - and camera is absolutely beast.... i cant say a bad word about the phone.. seriously for the money its a no brainer.... - only thing i miss is usb c.... but i guess i have to live with that...
so again for now no 6gb..sorry to disapoint...
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I have 6GB-64GB version whyred and bought it from AliExpress, this is indeed Global as it has front 13MB camera and rear dual cameras.
gsmyth said:
How is audio over the headphone jack? I previously had an S7 and it was the one disappointment about it for me. Currently have a Redmi Note 4 (mediatek unfortunately) and the audio quality is really decent, much better than the S7. Is it a full metal unibody or are the top and bottom strips on the rear plastic ( for antenna reception)?
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jdwis said:
I have 6GB-64GB version whyred and bought it from AliExpress, this is indeed Global as it has front 13MB camera and rear dual cameras.
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Sorry but its chinese model flashed with global rom.. no band 20. Read description of the sale....it clearly says so...i know alli very well...
Thanks for effort.

Info before getting the Zf5

Hi,
It seems ZF5Z is announced around summer, can you confirm and if so shall i wait this model instead of ZF5?
i wanted the Nokia7+ but no unlock, then checked for MI MIx2S or Mi7 but it s expensive, there is a promo in my country for Zf5 (france).
So i dont know if the wait till Zf5Z is worth compare to buying now Zf5.
I come from Honor 5x and i like custom roms so as i have red, it is a device with big potential for this (treble, Snapdragon, source release,..).
Do you confirm ?
Also dont know the difference between :
zenfone-5-ze620kl-1a009eu
and
zenfone-5-ze620kl-1h010eu
EDIT:
Ok this seems to be the color... Never seen a model Nb Changing for color, hope no other diffs between those models
thanks
The ZF5Z just has better cpu/gpu/ram, the rest is identical to the ZF5. Will the bigger price be worth it ? Your call
And what you think between zenfone 5 and redmi note 5 pro ?
whyred got already a bit dev
and as said i do like custom ROM (was kind of flashaolic)
so i wonder if zf5 will have some custom rom in futur as shakalaca said somewhere no build of custom rom (it was on website about twrp unofficial).

How to identify international version vs. China version phone?

How to identify international version vs. China version phone?
I want to buy a 2nd hand Mix 2S (because its the cheapest phone with NFC + wireless charging). Anyway, there are plenty of 2nd hand phones on the market, but how do I identify a China version (that I don't want) with a international/global version (that I want)?
Another thing I fancy is pure android. I see that it can be installed. In that case, does the original ROM even matter much? (I have also a RedMi Note 4 (Hong Kong version) and find the original Miui OK, but nothing I would actually install)
XDRdaniel said:
First of all, this section is for mi mix 2 only. Not the S version
Second, it wouldn't matter. Buy any version then flash the ROM you like.
And third, yes, some might say that miui is better In terms of smoothes, battery life and overall stability.
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Whoops, sorry for this 2S question. My bad.
You answer implies that all have the same hardware and one can simply flash whatever they like to get the version they want. That sounds good to me.
Again, sorry for the wrong section post....

About The Note 5 Variants

Hey guys, I'm planning to buy a new phone in the next few days and I've decided on the note 5. however, I've noticed that there are different variants of it( standard note 5 , note 5 pro , note 5 ai dual cameras) and I got confused, furthermore, I can't order it online (not available where I live) and I'd have to buy it from a retailer and most of them don't even know the difference between the variants (the one available here is probably note 5 ai dual camera) , so my questions are :
1- Is there a way to verify the variant before I buy it , like a code-name on the box or something ? ( also, if you can provide codenames for each variant, I'd be very happy :fingers-crossed: )
2- Since having custom software support is a deal breaker for me, which one of these variants has the best support here on xda
and if you can link each variant's forums, I'd be very grateful.
3- Will the device ever get official Android P ?
4- How good is the device in terms of performance ? ( Ui fluidity specifically and not games )
Thanks in advance !
xkifah said:
Hey guys, I'm planning to buy a new phone in the next few days and I've decided on the note 5. however, I've noticed that there are different variants of it( standard note 5 , note 5 pro , note 5 ai dual cameras) and I got confused, furthermore, I can't order it online (not available where I live) and I'd have to buy it from a retailer and most of them don't even know the difference between the variants (the one available here is probably note 5 ai dual camera) , so my questions are :
1- Is there a way to verify the variant before I buy it , like a code-name on the box or something ? ( also, if you can provide codenames for each variant, I'd be very happy :fingers-crossed: )
2- Since having custom software support is a deal breaker for me, which one of these variants has the best support here on xda
and if you can link each variant's forums, I'd be very grateful.
3- Will the device ever get official Android P ?
4- How good is the device in terms of performance ? ( Ui fluidity specifically and not games )
Thanks in advance !
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1. codename is whyred. if you not in china or india get the one that says global version. the china ai and the global ai its the same only the china has less bands used in other countries. the one for india is for india country.
so name are different but is the same. example redmi note5 ai china/global same phone global has more bands.
redmi note5 pro is india's region same phone except front camera global/china has front 13 mpx. while india has 20 mpx. just make sure its redmi note5 global version with dual camera and front 13 mpx. whyred. the one with single camera codename is vince. or yet paste link here and will tell you.
2. support for roms is good lots of roms.. NOTE that global version and india redmi note5 pro both share the same rom and firmware. both global version and note5 pro share the forum this is the correct forum.
3. am new to xiaomi so it was released with oreo. so apparently all mid range phones in redmi only get 1 android update. so i assume we will get official android P.
4. to me its okey in 9.5 in miui 10 retunrning from recents to home it lags a bit.
Thank you very much ! this was very informative and it's exactly what I needed !

Coming back to Custom ROMS

I have been away in the wilderness for the past 5 years and I am trying to get back into customs roms.
I purchased from Amazon UK the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5, so I assume this is classed is the Pro version.... its 3GB/32GB model
After doing some research on the forum. Is it true to say that the Stock Miui rom is the most stable rom? I am currenly on Miui 10.
Its nice but I would prefer stock android/pixel port with everything working plus gcam.
I Would prefer Oreo until Pie is stable enough, but after doing some further reading I get the feeling that Oreo based roms aren't stable or have I misread.
Thanks
owen1978 said:
I have been away in the wilderness for the past 5 years and I am trying to get back into customs roms.
I purchased from Amazon UK the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5, so I assume this is classed is the Pro version.... its 3GB/32GB model
After doing some research on the forum. Is it true to say that the Stock Miui rom is the most stable rom? I am currenly on Miui 10.
Its nice but I would prefer stock android/pixel port with everything working plus gcam.
I Would prefer Oreo until Pie is stable enough, but after doing some further reading I get the feeling that Oreo based roms aren't stable or have I misread.
Thanks
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Been on Pixel Expirience pie for over 2 months, more than stable enough for daily use. Didnt encounter any bugs, everythings working, just heard that cast is not working, but cant confirm as i dont use it. Most stable is ofcourse OEM soft, in this case miui. Wont recommend gcam as its not stable, atleast for global version front camera is bugged. If you start flashing various gcam patches this forum is full of, youll probably end up with same bugged gcam AND it will give you extra troubles, like no sound etc. Pixel Expirience without any modifications and patches works well. Btw "pro" version is only for india, they have different front camera hardware and gcam seems to be working well on it, there is also AI version which is exactly the same as global version, just with less network bands support.
Thanks for the reply...
gsmarena has my phone as a Note 5 Pro its has the 636 chipset.... Am i in the correct forum? should I be in the note 5 / note 5 plus forum???
owen1978 said:
Thanks for the reply...
gsmarena has my phone as a Note 5 Pro its has the 636 chipset.... Am i in the correct forum? should I be in the note 5 / note 5 plus forum???
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No, its the same phone, but as i said, pro moniker is only used in india. Global model is just redmi note 5. Global and chinese versions are identical, apart from global supporting more network bands. Pro version is same as Global, but has different front camera hardware for some reason. If im not mistaken, it has 20mpx, while global/china uses 12mpx front sensor. They all support same roms tho, and all have same codename, which is "whyred". This forum is for whyred. Note5/5 plus is another device, it uses snapdragon 625 and has single back camera. I know, naming scheme is ridiculously confusing, but thats xiaomi, its not the first time. They use different names in different regions, and release many similar devices.

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