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is it possible to overclock above 768mhz? my phone never gets warm and battery lasts 2+ days, completely stable at this speed, i want to learn how i can edit a kernel and increase the cpu voltage ever so slightly and increase max cpu clock and see whats stable, could you help me?
i think you will just start to get kernel panics if you try to go much higher .
i have another phone (lg 500) also with the same arm6 cpu that comes clocked at 600 from factory. i have the option to oc to 825 with custom kernel but it always panics at 806 and is stable at 787.
So i think if you want a faster phone go buy one
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i have another phone (lg 500) also with the same arm6 cpu that comes clocked
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Nope.
P500 has an ARM11 MS7227 processor
Wildfire has an ARM11 MS7225 processor.
http://xi0.info/qualcomm-chips-kernel-arm-phones_7000.html
lol the chipset for the wildfire is MSM7225 but the cpu is arm6/11? on half of the sites is arm6 the other arm11..
Hi I have mine set to 710 and any higher starts getting random reboots.
But overclocking any higher than 768, your risking a chip melt or definitely shorting its life.
So I installed the Perseus kernel and with Stweaks I overclocked the CPU at 1800Mhz.
Antatu = over 19000 points
Then I oced the GPU only to 800Mhz = 18400 Points
But when I decide to overclock both at maximum (1800/800Mhz) I get low score.
Even overclocking the CPU @ 800Mhz and CPU @ 1700Mhz = lower score than just CPU @ 1800Mhz
Is it because the CPU is throttling? What's wrong?
Dear cyber.bg,
Yes probably your cpu is throttling to 800 mhz from 1800 mhz because it reaches the temp of 80c...
To avoid throttling, you have to undervolt cpu when overclocking...
According to me , overclocking gpu over 533 is useless and also makes a lot of heat which push cpu to throttle ... Even gpu @640 mhz with higher voltages you will face freezes and lags...
So just overclock your cpu to 1800 mhz but with lower voltages... Most note 2 cpus can do 1800 mhz @ 1250mV... You can try to give -25 to other values from 1250 mV... 200 mhz @ 775 mv is also fine and no deep sleeps for me.
Dont overclock your gpu but you can undervolt it a little bit... gpu @533 is fine with 1050 mV...
With the right frequency and voltages for both cpu and gpu there will be no throttling so u can get real antutu scores... cpu @1800 and [email protected] with lower voltages, u can expect an antutu score between 19300 and 19800 depending on your rom, kernel and tweaks...
You can use stweaks app to overclock and undervolt...
You can use system tuner pro app to observe cpu temp and other data...
Hope all these helps...
Kind regards.
Sent from my Amiga Note
Thank you for your reply, it was very informative
Currently I am with Note2Core AS (the 1.92Ghz kernel) and I still have the throttling problem, even though my CPU temp doesn't go beyond 50C in Quadrant. But it is till throttling.
I've tried to edit voltage with SetCPU, Voltage Control Extreme and System Tuner Pro, but they don't stick - they just revert back to their original values (1425mV for 1.92Ghz) Stweaks says Sorry, no kernel support.
The interesting part is that in the beginning I managed to run 1-2 benchmarks without Throttling, but anything after that is throttled. Best scores so far:
Antutu: 19868
Quadrant - 7941
Do you know why I can't edit voltages and why it throttles even when CPU temperature is low?
Maybe it has to be plugged in and charging from the Wall?
Dear cyber.bg,
I am using perseus v29.1 kernel and it supports stweaks app... Also i can use voltage control or setcpu with this kernel but i prefer stweak since it has native support in the kernel.
First, 1.9 mhz @1425 mV is really high and thats why your cpu throttles...
I do max 1.8 mhz @ 1250 mV to avoid throttling... I did many test and voltages above 1250-1300 will bring throttling back. My cpu is stable @1250mV...
With quadrant cpu may not throttle because it is an outdated benchmark and i am sure it doesnt use all the cpu cores @100 percent...
Antutu is the solution to observe for throttling...
To observe temps and throttling, run both antutu and sytem tuner pro in split view...
Also i use a 4k video to push all the cpus to max and view video in floating windows so u can see all the data in system tuner pro while video is playing in floating window.
Lastly, my advice is dont go over 1.8 mhz @1250 mV for cpu and 533 mhz @1050mV for gpu... i am sure with these settings, u will have a stable note2 with no throttling and at its max performance...
Hope all these helps...
Kind regards.
Sent from my Amiga Note
Thank you again for this very knowledgeable post
I've used Perseus too. I even switch them daily while experimenting.
I put the Note2Core because I want to push the phone to its limits and get a really high benchmark scores. I've seen people reaching almost 9000 in Quadrant. And for Antutu I already got a really high score (19548), but if I manage to stabilize it at 1920Mhz I can get higher. But it throttles
And I still can't understand why it throttles? Some people say it's because of the high temperature, but how high is high? When I finish with a benchmark and go to look for the temp the highest I've seen is 50C. Is that high?
Also how do I run Antutu and System Tuner Pro in dual view? Their icons are not in the side menu that I open when holding the back button. How do I put them there?
Have you tested with more than 1800Mhz for the CPU? or more than 533Mhz for the GPU only? Can you post some Quadrant and Antutu screenshots so I can compare.
Thank you again
Dear cyber.bg,
Here is my antutu and quadrant results...
Wanamlite v2.1
Perseus v29.1
Cpu 1.8 mhz @1250mV
Gpu 533 mhz @ 1050 mV
Antutu ~19300
Quadrant ~7300
I have run both antutu and quadrant only one time...
By the way, cpu begins throttling when its temp reaches 80c so i am sure you hit this limit...
I have also tried 1920 and 2000 mhz with angelom kernel but because of throttling and so much heat, i had to return back to 1800 mhz with perseus kernel...
Kind regards.
Sent from my Amiga Note
2 questions:
1 - How can I see the maximum temp the CPU reaches?
2 - Did you have any successful test at 1920 and 2000 mhz without throttling?
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2 questions:
1 - How can I see the maximum temp the CPU reaches?
2 - Did you have any successful test at 1920 and 2000 mhz without throttling?
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Dear cyber.bg,
1- The only way AFAIK is to use system tuner pro app... Be aware that apps like setcpu reports the BATTERY TEMP not the CPU TEMP...
2- Unfortunately NO since these speeds need min 1400 mV to be stable but throttling occurs immediately so no meaning to overclock...
Steps to observe throttling...
1- Download and install system tuner pro...
2- Download and install super video app and set it for software decoding not hardware decoding.
3- Grap a 4k video (life in the garden) from you tube with the tube mate app... i use this 4k video because it pushes all the cores to max with nearly full load in software decoding mode...
3a- Alternatively you can use antutu and system tuner pro app in split view to observe data... You have to flash this mod in able to add these app to multi windows list... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953705
4- Play 4k video with super video app in a floating window...
5- While video is playing run system tuner pro app and touch to cpu button...
6- Now u should be able to see cpu data like temp,core speeds,load and also video in floating window all together
7- Observe the cpu temp and core speed... if the temp reaches 80c then core speeds down to 800 mhz which mean cpu is throttling... Try to undervolt some more to keep cpu under 80c but with stability of course...
As i said before, the max i can go without throttling is cpu 1800 [email protected] mV and gpu 533 mhz @1050mV... With these settings i can maintain stability, and full benefit from overclocking without throttling...
Hope all these helps...
Kind regards.
Sent from my Amiga Note...
I tried 1800Mhz @ 1200mV and it seemded stable. GPU was 533Mhz @ 1050mV
You also write that it starts to throttle at 80C - have you found out that yourself or it is in the specifications of the chip?
Here are 2 shots (these were before I tried lower voltages):
Samsung Galaxy Note 2 - Jelly Bean 4.1.1
Quadrant (Run Full Benchmark):
Note2Core Kernel
CPU: 1920Mhz, 1425mV
GPU: 533Mhz, 1050mV
AnTuTu (Пълен тест):
Perseus Kernel
CPU: 1800Mhz, 1250mV
GPU: 533Mhz, 1050mV
Geekbench 2:
Note2Core Kernel
CPU: 1920Mhz, 1425mV
GPU: 533Mhz, 1050mV
Dear cyber.bg,
Nice scores... Well done... Which rom ?
During my observations with system tuner pro, i have realized the throttling temp is 80c..
I think the throttling level can be configured via kernel so this is up to the kernel developers... i remember from note1 that there was thor kernel and with this kernel cpu was throttling @85c and to 1.4 ghz not 800 mhz if i am not wrong...
Kind regards.
Sent from my Amiga Note
Scores were with stock 4.1.1. I haven't installed any modified ROMs so far, cause I like the stock
Btw I'm afraid to use System Tuner Pro now, because last time I tried to uninstall it my phone froze, but I pressed the power button for 5 seconds and restarted. On the 2nd attempt to uninstall it the same thing happened, but after restarting the OS didn't want to load. I didn't have a backup or anything and had to reinstall everything. At least I put 4.1.2, so I'm making a Nandroid backup through CWM recovery now. That was a good lesson.
Have you tried 1.8Ghz @ 1200mV for daily use?
Dear cyber.bg,
Yes, i tried 1.8 @ 1200mV but i got frezees while playing some 2k and 4k videos so i decided to be safe and push it to 1250 mV even 1225 mV seemes stable for my cpu...
Kind regards...
Sent from my Amiga Note
My Note 2 is currently running 1956gHz @ 1412 volts.. I only ran into a problem when I locked the gpu @ 533mHz and used a stress test.
Tegrak Overclock Ultimate is amazing !
I also noticed tegrak's overclocking doesn't take effect until I open Setcpu..
Edit: Overclocked to 2gHz @ 1437 volts.. what is the repercussions to the volts being "too high?"
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
PROTOCHIP said:
Dear cyber.bg,
Yes probably your cpu is throttling to 800 mhz from 1800 mhz because it reaches the temp of 80c...
To avoid throttling, you have to undervolt cpu when overclocking...
According to me , overclocking gpu over 533 is useless and also makes a lot of heat which push cpu to throttle ... Even gpu @640 mhz with higher voltages you will face freezes and lags...
So just overclock your cpu to 1800 mhz but with lower voltages... Most note 2 cpus can do 1800 mhz @ 1250mV... You can try to give -25 to other values from 1250 mV... 200 mhz @ 775 mv is also fine and no deep sleeps for me.
Dont overclock your gpu but you can undervolt it a little bit... gpu @533 is fine with 1050 mV...
With the right frequency and voltages for both cpu and gpu there will be no throttling so u can get real antutu scores... cpu @1800 and [email protected] with lower voltages, u can expect an antutu score between 19300 and 19800 depending on your rom, kernel and tweaks...
You can use stweaks app to overclock and undervolt...
You can use system tuner pro app to observe cpu temp and other data...
Hope all these helps...
Kind regards.
Sent from my Amiga Note
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Hi PROTOCHIP,
Can you send image files of your's STweaks settings? (for oc and for battery life)
Your experience is so reliable.
Thanks a lot.
Why can't I see any difference between the 533Mhz GPU and 800Mhz GPU on the GLBenchmark? I don't OC the CPU, I even tried to lock it to 1200Mhz to avoid thermal problems however I couldn't reach above 18 FPS in Egypt test. Normally it is 17, with 600 or 700Mhz it goes to 18 and then stays there.
When I compare the GPUs of the SGS3 and Note 2 there is %10 overclock on the Note 2 side and the results exactly indicates this. SGS3 scores 15 FPS, Note 2 scores 17 apprx %10 higher. From this comparison i take it as the results are linear with the clock speeds. I was also proving this theory by OCing the Note 1 to 400 Mhz and reacing a few FPS below SGS3 on GLBenchmark. So, without any problem Note 2 should score 30-31 FPS on 800 Mhz but that is not the case in real life. So I guess it is either never goes to 800 Mhz or thermal throttling happens during the test. Orrrr, maybe 1080p offscreen is not a good option to push-test our Mali-400s? But there is no other GPU benchmarks to push our devices like offscreen because of the 60 FPS lock.
What do you think about this? Is it possible to reach the 30 FPS level?
Can you guys tell if this is ok? Or can I still go lower.. I just eant fair speed with battery saving..
Thanks in advance
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
Omega rom v9.1 + perseus alpha 29.1
Dear yerebakan,
Here are my settings for cpu and gpu... Hope all these helps... These are my lowest settings and stable values for my cpu right now... You can add +25 for both cpu and gpu to be safe then u can play with the values...
Phoniex Rom V2.1 and Perseus Kernel v29.1
CPU: 200 Mhz - 1800 Mhz ( Voltages over 1300 [email protected] Mhz makes a lot of heat and cpu throttles... )
1800 Mhz - 1250 mV
1704 Mhz - 1225 mV
1600 Mhz - 1150 mV
1500 Mhz - 1125 mV
1400 Mhz - 1075 mV
1300 Mhz - 1025 mV
1200 Mhz - 1000 mV
1100 Mhz - 1000 mV
1000 Mhz - 975 mV
900 Mhz- 950 mV
800 Mhz - 925 mV
700 Mhz - 900 mV
600 Mhz - 875 mV
500 Mhz - 850 mV
400 Mhz - 825 mV
300 Mhz - 800 mV
200 Mhz - 775 mV
GPU: 160 Mhz - 533 Mhz ( Speeds over 533 are useless since making a lot of heat and also gpu throttles... )
160 Mhz - 825 mV
266 Mhz - 875 mV
350 Mhz - 950 mV
440 Mhz - 1000 mV
533 Mhz - 1025 mV
Kind Regards...
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_delice_doluca_ said:
Why can't I see any difference between the 533Mhz GPU and 800Mhz GPU on the GLBenchmark? I don't OC the CPU, I even tried to lock it to 1200Mhz to avoid thermal problems however I couldn't reach above 18 FPS in Egypt test. Normally it is 17, with 600 or 700Mhz it goes to 18 and then stays there.
When I compare the GPUs of the SGS3 and Note 2 there is %10 overclock on the Note 2 side and the results exactly indicates this. SGS3 scores 15 FPS, Note 2 scores 17 apprx %10 higher. From this comparison i take it as the results are linear with the clock speeds. I was also proving this theory by OCing the Note 1 to 400 Mhz and reacing a few FPS below SGS3 on GLBenchmark. So, without any problem Note 2 should score 30-31 FPS on 800 Mhz but that is not the case in real life. So I guess it is either never goes to 800 Mhz or thermal throttling happens during the test. Orrrr, maybe 1080p offscreen is not a good option to push-test our Mali-400s? But there is no other GPU benchmarks to push our devices like offscreen because of the 60 FPS lock.
What do you think about this? Is it possible to reach the 30 FPS level?
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Dear _delice_doluca_,
Same here and never had the chance to go over 18 fps with my note2 too... Overclocking over 533 doesnt help because of gpu throttling... In theory as you stated , we should go over 30 fps easily but in reality, this seems so far...
Kind Regards...
On behalf of the people who found this thread to discover your great insight and findings Protochip, thank you.
my cpu is running at 1.3ghz 1025mv however my phone reaches 67c true temp and throttles very easily any idea if this normal i cant play any 3d games unless im sitting near a fan or ac. Everyone says they throttle at 80c, i came to this thread from another post i had made. Im mostly playing
Nova 3 and mc4 .
nielo360 said:
my cpu is running at 1.3ghz 1025mv however my phone reaches 67c true temp and throttles very easily any idea if this normal i cant play any 3d games unless im sitting near a fan or ac. Everyone says they throttle at 80c, i came to this thread from another post i had made. Im mostly playing
Nova 3 and mc4 .
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i found that the real throttling problem is a security protocol that Samsung roms have. When the battery reach 41C the cpu throttles (no matter if its only at 60C cpu temp)
i dont know how to deactivate that protocol...but if you want, try CM10.1 or any other AOKP or AOSP roms and you´ll se that there is no cpu throttling unless the cpu reach 80C.
you´ll need "stability test" app (cpu stress testing, and you can watch battery temp), and "system tuner" app (to watch live cpu temp during the stress test)
This is really strange and probably even stranger to complain about but I want to understand.
I UV on my Note and so far managed to drop to levels I find hard to believe.
200MHz - 600mV
300MHz - 600mV
400MHz - 600mV
500MHz - 600mV
600MHz - 600mV
700MHz - 600mV
800MHz - 600mV
900MHz - 600mV
1000MHz - 600mV
1100MHz - 600mV
1200MHz - 975mV
1300MHz - 975mV
1400MHz - 1000mV
1500MHz - 1050mV
1600MHz - 1100mV
Why is my note able to run at 600mV on all frequencies up to 1100MHz??? At first I thought it was a reporting error and It wasn't really running on those voltages but found breaking points on higher frequencies so eliminated that theory. :silly: Would be to be able to test these frequencies at even lower levels. Anybody know a tool that can do it?
This is the process I followed:
Set the voltage value in STweaks,
Set the max MHz in STweaks to the frequency for which I just dropped the voltage ,
Close STweaks,
Open Voltage Control to confirm that the voltage and max frequency has really been set,
Close Voltage control,
Reboot,
Open Voltage Control again to confirm that the voltage and max frequency is really set,
Close Voltage control,
Reset timings in Android Tuner Free,
Start Stability - Classic Test and verify that the Note is running at the max frequency,
Open some other apps and play around for a while,
Get Stability Test back to foreground and go to sleep (if it is time to sleep)
For all of the above frequency values i ran the Stability Test overnight for at least 4 hours plus for a couple hours while using the phone. Didnt get a single freeze or reboot. The only issue was that while I had it on max 200 MHz the Note was not usable while the 300 and 400 MHz frequencies were annoyingly slow. 500 MHz and up is bearable even with Stability Test running.
Attached are the last status and test screenshots. The Stability Test has been running while I been also using it for calling, messaging, adjusting other app setting and taking screenshots.
I check the frequency timings in Android Tuner Free and it is usually 1-4% on offline, 95-98% on the tested frequency and sometime 1% on the frequency just above the tested one. All other frequency times usually 0%
Any ideas if something funny is going on or is this Note just unbelievably under-voltable???
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This is really strange and probably even stranger to complain about but I simply need to understand.
I UV on my Note and so far managed to drop to levels I simply cant believe.
200MHz - 600 mV
300MHz - 600 mV
400MHz - 600 mV
500MHz - 600 mV
600MHz - 600 mV
700MHz - 600 mV
800MHz - 600 mV
Rest of the frequencies are still at stock values
First I copy pasted some UV setting from another post and the Note ran without Issues. Then I started dropping a little bit here and there and at some point got some freezes and reboots but couldnt figure out which frequency was the issue so I returned all to stock and started one by one from 200 MHz. The above is where I got to so far and simply need to understand why or what is happening.
This is the process I followed:
Set the voltage value in STweaks,
Set the max MHz in STweaks to the frequency for which I just dropped the voltage ,
Close STweaks,
Open Voltage Control to confirm that the voltage and max frequency has really been set,
Close Voltage control,
Reboot,
Open Voltage Control again to confirm that the voltage and max frequency is really set,
Close Voltage control,
Reset timings in Android Tuner Free,
Start Stability - Classic Test and verify that the Note is running at the max frequency,
Open some other apps and play around for a while,
Get Stability Test back to foreground and go to sleep (if it is time to sleep)
For all of the above frequency values i ran the Stability Test overnight for at least 4 hours plus for a couple hours while using the phone. Didnt get a single freeze or reboot. The only issue was that while I had it on max 200 MHz the Note was not usable while the 300 and 400 MHz frequencies were annoyingly slow. 500 MHz and up is bearable even with Stability Test running.
Attached are the screenshots of the process at 800 MHz and the Stability Test has been running for almost six hous while I been also using it for messaging, adjusting other app setting and taking screenshots. After about 5 hours of 100% CPU load at 800 MHz the Note is down to 80% battery. Not really sure but it seems quite low power consumption.
I just checked the timings again in Android Tuner Free and 12% on offline, 86% on 800 MHz. All other frequency times 0%
Any ideas if something funny is going on or is this Note just unbelievably undervoltable???
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1st thing, my STweaks is ver 1.1 but looks a bit different than your screenshots, pls confirm that.
2nd, I too like to underclock but had no idea you could push it as far as you . It's kind of like driving a car low on gas to see how far you can go.
3rd What ROM & kernel you on? I'm on X-Note 3.3 with Adam kernel.
Last, here's a screenshot of my undervolting...I'm kinda embarrassed compared to yours Note the differences in layout of STweak menu.
I'm inspired to go even lower now, my battery life is pretty awesome but I think I can squeeze it more.
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1st thing, my STweaks is ver 1.1 but looks a bit different than your screenshots, pls confirm that.
2nd, I too like to underclock but had no idea you could push it as far as you . It's kind of like driving a car low on gas to see how far you can go.
3rd What ROM & kernel you on? I'm on X-Note 3.3 with Adam kernel.
Last, here's a screenshot of my undervolting...I'm kinda embarrassed compared to yours Note the differences in layout of STweak menu.
I'm inspired to go even lower now, my battery life is pretty awesome but I think I can squeeze it more.
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My STweaks is also 1.1 and guessing the menu difference might be due to different kernel. I am on RedPill, stock ROM and probably irrelevant but TWERP as well.
I have mixed feelings about the achieved UV. Very happy if it is true but suspicious that there is some kind of a reporting error and that I am actually not under-volting it at all.
I will soon update the OP since I have now been now testing the 900 MHz for the last 3 turns. Started at 900 mV then droped to 800 mV and now already running it for a couple hours at 700 mV. I just cant believe that its actually at at this voltage and running without issues.
MutantWizard said:
My STweaks is also 1.1 and guessing the menu difference might be due to different kernel. I am on RedPill, stock ROM and probably irrelevant but TWERP as well.
I have mixed feelings about the achieved UV. Very happy if it is true but suspicious that there is some kind of a reporting error and that I am actually not under-volting it at all.
I will soon update the OP since I have now been now testing the 900 MHz for the last 3 turns. Started at 900 mV then droped to 800 mV and now already running it for a couple hours at 700 mV. I just cant believe that its actually at at this voltage and running without issues.
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Hmm yes, because you're going so low, it begs the question is the app reading accurate? I mean, you're reeeaaaal low. Would be good for a more knowledgeable person to chip in and give us feedback.
One thing - in your screenshot it shows your max frequency capped at 800MHz. To me that reads you are running only at 50% power. If so, that explains your insane battery life. From steps 900 and above you've left voltage at stock because they're unused. right?
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Hmm yes, because you're going so low, it begs the question is the app reading accurate? I mean, you're reeeaaaal low. Would be good for a more knowledgeable person to chip in and give us feedback.
One thing - in your screenshot it shows your max frequency capped at 800MHz. To me that reads you are running only at 50% power. If so, that explains your insane battery life. From steps 900 and above you've left voltage at stock because they're unused. right?
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Yes higher frequencies still at stock and not used but will be getting to them at their own time. Fact though is that even with cap at current 900 MHz and with Stability test running I can still use the Note normally for any regular tasks. If I don't play games I would never need more speed.
Now updating the OP with the 900 MHz setting and screenshots.
BTW I just realized I added to battery life when transferring screenshots by connecting the Note to the laptop by cable. Battery life still remains to be seen.
Updated the OP with the full range of voltages 200-1600. I don't OC so those will not be doing. But I still have the original question.
Is it possible???
Gets more and more strange. GPU under-clocking and under-volting of following frequencies working for days without any usage issue. I changed the minimum and maximum MHz to include the below frequencies and didn't notice any difference in the Note behavior / performance. When running the stability test with GPU testing included I don't get any errors if running under 2 hours but if I leave it overnight the test does crash at some point in time without any other ill effect. I only know that it crashed coz it disapears and it tells me it crashed when the next day I re-start the test.
54MHz - 600mV
108MHz - 600mV
160MHz - 600mV
266MHz - 600mV
350MHz - 600mV
The fact though is I don't understand what to expect as an issue when under-clocking or under-volting the GPU.
Mate, you're still at it!?
Rereading your data, I strongly suggest you post these stats in whatever thread belongs to the kernel and/or tuner app you're using.
My overseas Singaporean work colleagues would say 'cannot be, cannot be.....'
tweeny80 said:
Mate, you're still at it!?
Rereading your data, I strongly suggest you post these stats in whatever thread belongs to the kernel and/or tuner app you're using.
My overseas Singaporean work colleagues would say 'cannot be, cannot be.....'
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Yea slowly trying one by one new settings and letting it run for a while so that when I go to the next setting and experience an issue I am sure its the newest setting that's causing it.
Thanks will do as suggested.
According to HTC website, the SnapDragon 810 in the M9 is supposed to be clocked at 4x 2GHz cores, 4x 1.5GHz cores.
Both CPU Stats and CPU-Z report a max speed of 1.5GHz...
Are we being sold underclocked devices?
I know about the supposed "thermal issues" but to advertise a device at 2GHz but ship it at 1.5Ghz is a bit naughty.
Can anyone confirm their device is running at 2GHz?
TIA
Aaron
Screenshots?
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Or better yet, how about a video? I'm little weary because of all the crapsung trolls in these forums.
superchilpil said:
Screenshots?
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Or better yet, how about a video? I'm little weary because of all the crapsung trolls in these forums.
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No video, don't worry, I'm not a troll - just look at *all* of my previous posts, all in HTC Wizard/Kaiser/Desire/One X forums, along with Asus TF300T.
Well I hope that isn't true, for HTC's sake. If it is true then that means this phone did in fact overheat..
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Well I hope that isn't true, for HTC's sake. If it is true then that means this phone did in fact overheat..
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Indeed, that's why I want to know if others have devices running at 2GHz and this is just an error in these apps. But, if they are clocking at 1.5, they shouldn't be advertising it as being 2 on their website and everywhere else.
Reading around it is in fact advertised as 1.5 GHz
superchilpil said:
Reading around it is in fact advertised as 1.5 GHz
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Snapshot from HTC UK this afternoon - note the timestamp on my screengrab...
4x2.0 and 4x1.5
So 4 at 2ghz and 4 at 1.5ghz.
In assuming the app is only measuring the max of a few cores and assuming the rest are the same.
Put the phone in performance mode and look at the speed of each core to see where they are set
I get mine tomorrow, I'm definitely going to check.
superchilpil said:
4x2.0 and 4x1.5
So 4 at 2ghz and 4 at 1.5ghz.
In assuming the app is only measuring the max of a few cores and assuming the rest are the same.
Put the phone in performance mode and look at the speed of each core to see where they are set
I get mine tomorrow, I'm definitely going to check.
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Good spot, installed Antutu and it recognises max speed of 1.9584GHz so it does look like it's not underclocked.
Running benchmark now - done, and it didn't get hot
" The new phone has a processor that’s theoretically faster, a higher-resolution camera, and other things that should make the new phone an upgrade from last year’s model. But early reviews suggest the new camera doesn’t take stellar photos, the battery life isn’t great, and in order to keep the CPU from overheating HTC recently pushed out a software update that reduces the clock speed… which means the new phone’s probably not much faster than last year’s model. "
http://liliputing.com/2015/03/htc-one-m9-pre-orders-open-march-27-649-unlocked.html
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Mine is a tad slow playing Football Manager Handheld 2015 which is much quicker on the Note 4 and M8. I think this may well be due to tinkering on HTC's part as during the game the phone is quite cool, but doing other tasks it gets quite hot.
I call shenanigans on HTC's part.
Jonathan-H said:
Mine is a tad slow playing Football Manager Handheld 2015 which is much quicker on the Note 4 and M8. I think this may well be due to tinkering on HTC's part as during the game the phone is quite cool, but doing other tasks it gets quite hot.
I call shenanigans on HTC's part.
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Understand that both of those other phones have 32 bit processor's, most apps are probably not optimized for 64bit. So that may be why that app is slower.
And yes you can be quite sure this phone has a thermal throttle, but don't be mistaken. So does every other phone out there.
/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq
CPU's 0-3 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1555200
CPU's 4-7 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1958400
All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
LeeDroid said:
/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq
CPU's 0-3 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1555200
CPU's 4-7 cpuinfo_max_freq = 1958400
All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
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@LeeDroid which cluster is 2ghz the A57 or A53?
in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, but i dont know which of which
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@LeeDroid which cluster is 2ghz the A57 or A53?
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That's the A57 mate.
None of the CPU stats Apps on the market offer support For octacore as yet, they will see that we have 8 cores but won't be looking at them directly
LeeDroid said:
That's the A57 mate.
None of the CPU stats Apps on the market offer support For octacore as yet, they will see that we have 8 cores but won't be looking at them directly
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in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, so according to this information the A57 cluster gets disabled completely in powersaver! the slow down is very evident in the camera
Nomal mode:
633mhz to 1958mhz
first 4 cores A53 cluster hover around it's maximum 1555mhz (capped)
second 4 cores A57 cluster around 700mhz idle, it goes all the way up to 1958mhz
CPU powersaver:
300mhz to 1552mhz
first 4 cores cluster A53 hover around it's maximum 1555mhz (capped)
second 4 cores A57 cluster disabled
GPU Adreno 430 speed between 190mhz and 600mhz, not affected by CPU powersaver, drivers [email protected] ([email protected])
when the device is warm (downloading non stop over wifi) battery temp around 39c, a little less load and the battery temp is around 36c
hamdir said:
in power saver mode the 1.5ghz cluster minimum reduces from 600mhz to 300mhz and the 2ghz cluster gets disabled, so according to this information the A57 cluster gets disabled completely in powersaver! the slow down is very evident in the camera
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Yeh that would make sense mate, dropping min freq on the a57 would likely cause freezing, power save bumps us down to a good old 1.5GHz QuadCore, camera is Damn resource hungry so the imminent slow down would also make sense.
LeeDroid said:
Yeh that would make sense mate, dropping min freq on the a57 would likely cause freezing, power save bumps us down to a good old 1.5GHz QuadCore, camera is Damn resource hungry so the imminent slow down would also make sense.
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how does 1.5ghz quad A53 compare to a 1.1ghz quad Krait400? if we are comparing powersavers M8 vs M9
also some correction:
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All that was tweaked is the interactive governor, it was too aggressive, none of the core clock speeds have been reduced
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that's not true, they also added thermal throttle to the GPU, all the way from 600mhz to 300mhz which also brings it down to M8 land (once throttled)
Ah indeed!
Hadn't considered the throttling, I don't tend to use power save a great deal however happy to do some comparisons when I have time
Hey guys!
I installed CPU Spy and Performance Tuner and noticed that my max CPU speed is 1440Mhz but as far as I know it should say 1800Mhz. I know we have 4 cores running at 1.4Ghz and 2 cores running at 1.8Ghz which is the speed advertised.
What is your max CPU speed for your G4?
pakitos said:
Hey guys!
I installed CPU Spy and Performance Tuner and noticed that my max CPU speed is 1440Mhz but as far as I know it should say 1800Mhz. I know we have 4 cores running at 1.4Ghz and 2 cores running at 1.8Ghz which is the speed advertised.
What is your max CPU speed for your G4?
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CpuSpy doesn't know that cores beyond 0-3 exist, so it only shows the first quadcore cluster. App hasn't been taught bigLITTLE yet it seems.
Oh I see, I thought I had like a bad CPU since I couldnt find something about it. Thanks!
Same here I only get to do 1.44
Use Kernel Adiutor App. it's compatible and detects all cores.