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Got my TP2, not sure you are having the same strange thing like me.
When I take out my TP2 from the magnet pouch, it will turn on itself.
I know you might think i accidently pressed some button... .. so i do a test and turn off my TP2 as usual and then just move my pouch back and fort next to my phone, and it turn on again.
Now I have to use a non-magnetive pouch.
Do you having the same experience?
Like old crackberrys when taking out of the belt clip it turns on...
wierd...never heard of it
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i called it an undocumented feature.
the old htc wizard use to rotate the screen while in the pouch to.
faria said:
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i called it an undocumented feature.
the old htc wizard use to rotate the screen while in the pouch to.
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Ha! so Funny!!!
Maybe it is good too, beside you going to turn it on anyway when you took it out from your pouch :> ... So it turn it on for you.
Agreed, undocumented feature.... hahahahahahah
I've also noticed this but I'm not using the magnetic case as I need a belt clip, I'm using the old case from my Tytn2 which has a velcro closure. I also thought it was a clever feature like the way the light sensor turns off the touchscreen when you hold the phone to your ear when in a call.
Here is a video of this phenomenon
http://www.vimeo.com/5063985
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http://www.vimeo.com/5063985
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Nice magic but mine doesnt hv that undocumented feature..
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great feature! ;-)
Good. I am not alone.
I think I have this figured out.
I think the keyboard uses a magnet to detect when it is deployed, and that is what is being tripped by the cases' magnetic clasp.
After playing about with the case, trying to find all the ways to turn my TP2 on with it, (never turns on inside the case, mine is nowhere near as magnetic on the inside as it is on the outside) i found that the magnet can also rotate the screen disabling the onscreen input at the same time, just like when the keyboard is deployed.
If my theory is correct, then if you can find a way to disable the power on with keyboard slide (has anyone figured this out already?) then your problems with the case should be solved.
Or you could try and demagnetising the magnet a bit, perhaps your magnet is mega-powerful and thats why its able to trip the sensor while inside the pouch.
Same kind of problem here, that keylock opens when device it put to holster. And I have got couple of "angry" calls about "can't you use the keylock".
Luckily this "slide to unlock" keylock works little better, but still isn't the best solution.
Woohoo! Mine does it too!
Strangely though, it does seem to happen on my friends Vodafone branded TP2...
Oh, and off course the "nicest" thing is, that puches that came with TyTN2 and Touch Pro2 (and TyTN, if I remember correctly) contains magnets that open keylock/turn power on. Maybe there should have been little more thinking/hardware testing when that kind of accesories are decided to put in package.
And otherwise Touch Pro2's pouch is pretty useless, because it doesn't have belt clip, and it's "too thick" (compared to eg. Nokia's E71 pouch) to use with phone just in pocket.
Whoaa.. mine does too..
Just curious, try to enable the sliding sound, And you'll notice that when you put magnet on it, the sound plays.
Maybe the magnet triggers some sort of keyboard sensor..
anyone knows how to keep the phone standby even if the keyboard is opened?
Mine does not switch on when I take it out of the pouch. But it does switch on when I wave the pouch over the bottom corner like in the video.
I usually put the TP2 LCD facing in, but I tried with it facing out and it still does not switch on... strange
BTW, I feel the original case that came with the unit is too tight. Kinda hard for me to take the phone out. I'm using the original TyTn 2 case. A little loose, but can be tightened with the velcro...
If you want to disable the "wake up when the keyboard slide", check this post : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1093353&postcount=37
It solved the problem with my magnetic leather pouch.
vakbrain said:
If you want to disable the "wake up when the keyboard slide", check this post : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1093353&postcount=37
It solved the problem with my magnetic leather pouch.
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Thanks very much - that sorted it...
Rgs,
J
mines turns on as well. i have a vertical type case. when i place the tp2 into the pouch it cuts on. if i place it in upside down it doesnt. seems odd that orientation affects it...
Hey Guys,
I think Ghostifish has this thing completely figured out. There's definitely magnets inside the phone. I discovered this one by putting my phone down on my desk at work close to a couple of paper clips. When I picked it up, it grabbed the clips with it!! Four of them to be exact. At first I was a little started (thinking jeez, the magnetic fields off this thing must be frying my brain! ) But then realized that it was probably a lot like my i760 which also used a magnetic retention mechanism to hold the phone open or closed instead of a spring that would be prone to breaking.
Just FYI.
Dustin
Okay so i recently got a galaxy note 10.1 2014 ed. and i bought this ivso case for it: ww.amazon.com/Samsung-Edition-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B00FJTV0PG
I like the case and the detachable keyboard but what i cannot stand is the effects the magnets have on the tablet. It makes it auto wake, which i guess is kind of nice, but when i fold it back around behind the tablet, it always auto locks my tablet. It also will not let me drag the drop down notification bar from the top when it is folded around the back.
Anyways, i was wondering if anyone knew of any apps or settings to disable the effects of the magnets on the tablet? I've spent hours googling and trying out different apps and whatnot but nothing helps.
Thanks in adv,
betaPartier
What I did was get a sharp knife and take the magnet out. Stick a velcro instead.
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What I did was get a sharp knife and take the magnet out. Stick a velcro instead.
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Would you be able to share a few photo's to show us what you did.
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Maybe have a look at [MOD][XPOSED] MotoMagnetOff
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621807
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I have same problem ,when I turn cover back,it turn the screen down . Actually ,I turn the cover back just want to hold it to pay a game. But it turn down, smart cover is not smart actually .
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I folded some papers and slip it underneath the tablet in the case. It block the magnet so it won't off the screen when u flip the cover to the back.
The pen holder strap that comes with the cover is too small to hold my Wacom stylus feel. So, I got some stretchable strap, loop it and staple it to the paper. Now I can slip my stylus comfortably attachedge to the cover.
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The pen holder strap that comes with the cover is too small to hold my Wacom stylus feel.
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Off topic, but how do you like the Wacom feel?
I'm thinking of getting one but I read that it is not as accurate as the default stylus, unless held at a 90 degree angle (!). Is that the case?
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There is a bit of offset. But it doesn't affect me much. Just write or draw like normal.
In apps like lecture notes, tgere is a setting where u can adjust the offset to make it accurate.
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betaPartier said:
Okay so i recently got a galaxy note 10.1 2014 ed. and i bought this ivso case for it: ww.amazon.com/Samsung-Edition-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B00FJTV0PG
I like the case and the detachable keyboard but what i cannot stand is the effects the magnets have on the tablet. It makes it auto wake, which i guess is kind of nice, but when i fold it back around behind the tablet, it always auto locks my tablet. It also will not let me drag the drop down notification bar from the top when it is folded around the back.
Anyways, i was wondering if anyone knew of any apps or settings to disable the effects of the magnets on the tablet? I've spent hours googling and trying out different apps and whatnot but nothing helps.
Thanks in adv,
betaPartier
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I have the same problem. Did you figure out a way to disable the magnetic sensor?
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I have the same problem. Did you figure out a way to disable the magnetic sensor?
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No. I ended up just getting a different case that doesn't have a keyboard. Since there's no magnetic keyboard, the magnets aren't nearly as strong and only affects the tablet when I open it, not when I fold it around the back.
Thanks for the speedy response. On close inspection I noticed that there is a small magnet on the front cover top left corner about 1 inch from the top. almost invisible but can find it when we run a coin over the surface of the front cover. When the back side of the note 10.1 meets this magnet, screen switches off. I noted that by placing a magazine/ booklet between the front cover and the back when using in flipped over mode: the screen does not switch off. A small victory. But wish that samsung provides a solution 2 disable this magnetic screen off feature through a menu option.
i have same problem and i fix it by take out magnate from cover. i hope found a better way for this problem
Did anyone find any way to turn off the magnetic lock and unlock function? When I backfold my cover (aftermarket), it automatically locks my tab. Which is very irritating. I have Samsung galaxy tab S5e
You'd think that the guys who make these cases would just add a small amount of padding over the magnet so it only activates the sensor on the one side... To simple an idea I guess...
I was experiencing random screen shutoffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
Questions: I was wondering if anyone else has experienced similar issues with their cases/covers (a little research seems to indicate this is not an isolated issue and many, if not all, cases/covers suffer from this issue).
1) If you have not, which cases/covers do you use? Do these cases resolve the issue by never aligning the cover to the same position when flipped backwards as when flipped forwards (i.e. skewed slightly short of the edge when in backwards position)?
2) If you have experienced this issue, how have you addressed it? Can you disable the magnetic sensor?
3) Would weakening the magnet in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
SKida00 said:
I was experiencing random screen sback andk ffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
et in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
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yes i have the same problem. pick up A generic folio type case for my P600. Case looks and feels great. Auto wake works brilliantly when I open the cover, but there is the problem of The screen turning off when I flip the cover over to the back and the magnetic edges meet. Dunno how to fix this yet. Tried the magnetoff xposed module but that doesn't seem to work.
I got the Moko slim case and the same thing happens, what I did to circumvent the problem was to put my screen cleaning cloth between the case and the tablet. This prevents the magnet from locking the screen when completely folded backwards, the only thing is that this method will block the camera with the cloth. For me this is not a problem I don't see myself using the camera on my tablet when I can use my SGS3's camera, and this way I never forget my screen cleaning cloth .
I've read about this on other devices on various covers as well. they think it mah be due to the magnet not being properly shielded. dunno any fixes other than get another case.
I hade a cover for my old Ipad and it all so turn off the Ipad when I flipped over the cover.
It did turn out the problem was with the magnet and after getting a new one, the problem was solved.
My poetic slimline work perfectly no issues at all. Love the look and feel, I do want a carry slevee tho for more protection if I wanna bring it out of the house. Or even just to store in the house. But overall love this case.
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Get a piece of sheet metal (strip out a cheapie magnetic whiteboard , a few dollars at a variety store) cut to just less than the back of the tablet screen.
Cover it with a thin plastic film (to safeguard from cutting yourself)
It will adhere to the back of the screen magnetically and flatten the magnet's field
Now you can use the device with the keyboard tucked away behind the screen. (you may have to leave a small air gap say 5mm to 10 mm)
This does not affect the normal screen-keyboard functions when used conventionally
Same problem with Galaxy Tab A (Nougat)
There is an option in the tab to turn it off, but regardless what you choose, the tablet still responds to the magnet. Very annoying when you lay down your tablet flat. For now i just put something between the cover and the back of the tablet, like a handkerchief. This works for me, but ofcourse it's not a solution just a workaround. I'm still trying to find a solution.
Did you find any way to turn off the magnetic lock and unlock function? When I backfold my cover (aftermarket), it automatically locks my tab. Which is very irritating. I have Samsung galaxy tab S5e
There wasn't a good search result on a way to disable it via software or hardware mod so I thought I would post the solution I just did on my daughter's new tablet folio.
She has an old S3 Tab so the options are quite limited so figured modification was the only way. I ended up removing 3 magnets until I figured out which one actually did the on/off Hall effect. The smart thing to do would have been to use a magnet to find where on the tablet the Hall effect sensor was first, then remove just that magnet. The other magnets are for holding the clasp in place when the folio is open or closed.
I just cut an X over the magnet location, removed it, then filled it back in with hot glue. On her tablet, the Hall sensor was on the top left (fat arrow). It's annoying to have to do this but there's no other way. I tried the metal plate trick but that looked pretty bad and didn't always work.
Hope that helps someone
Anybody tried something like this? I have a feeling that pad that you put behind the case is going to screw up wireless charging and possibly nfc.
If the magnet was a bit bigger it would probably work with the 4 internal magnets, but this one seems kinda small.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Magneti...783596?hash=item35f4c479ac:g:pogAAOSwT5tWN1dh
haven't tried it, the ones locally are sold without the magnet pads and the pad are for iphones, some are display with the phone in a case because of it.
i opened a old hard drive to get the magnet and stuck that to my dashboard,
if the magnet is on the top the phone thinks its a case and will turn display on or off, so you would want the magnet not to interfere with the top, it didnt effect its compass
some users report that the metal pad can get hot with nfc charging and stop it.
been thinking of making one that will charge too
I think the smaller round magnet could be stuck at the bottom of the phone, the charging coil is in the middle so it might just miss it.
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I think the smaller round magnet could be stuck at the bottom of the phone, the charging coil is in the middle so it might just miss it.
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I bought a magnetic mount a while ago and it works perfectly. It doesn't mess with NFC or anything. I actually started a thread about it a while ago too. And with our phone, it doesn't need that metal pad that comes with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/magnetic-car-mount-t3069038
EDIT: Just realized you are talking about using it with a case. I don't use a case so I wouldn't know anything about that. It works good without one though
I have four small magnets between case and phone. They align themselves to metal pads in phone and keep the phone tightly next to my magnetic holder consisting four more magnets. Wireless charging works too
I have just received my preordered Tab S4 with keyboard cover, but when I close the keyboard cover it does not turn off the screen. Also when I manually turn off the screen, close the keyboard cover and then open it, it does not turn on the tablet. Is there any setting for this in Settings? Or is this feature not available anymore?
Thx.
Keyboard cover does not have magnetic attachment that enables the auto-unlock... At least, that is already a thing on Tab S3 so it is not a big surprise to me if they ommited the feature on S4 as well.
thank you, this means the keyboard cover is useless for me. I tried with magnet and it does have magnetic response on the keyboard cover edge and also on the tablet edge, so I don't understand why it's not shutting down the tablet screen.
Curious if the standard cover has that type of support then.
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Curious if the standard cover has that type of support then.
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I would suspect that if the keyboard cover can't do it the regular one won't do it either. As long as you don't have the screen time out value too high on the tablet, I don't see what the problem is. Mine is set to 1 minute and that works just fine for me.
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I would suspect that if the keyboard cover can't do it the regular one won't do it either. As long as you don't have the screen time out value too high on the tablet, I don't see what the problem is. Mine is set to 1 minute and that works just fine for me.
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the problem is that I had previous tablet S3 with regular book cover and was used to grabbing my tablet and by opening the cover the screen woke up automatically. Now it stays dark and I have to either press the power button or double tap on the screen. That's not acceptable. And yes, I do understand that "screen on" function can be set let's say for 1 minute, but that's not the point. This is really deal breaker for me. I will go to Best Buy tomorrow and try the regular book cover.
I have also called the Samsung support today, boy, they are clueless. Their customer support with heavy Chinese accent didn't even know that this tablet is out for public, so I hanged up and called again, this second guy told that my table is probably not sitting properly in the keyboard cover and I need to go to nearest Samsung center and they will adjust the position I don't believe what I hear......
The keyboard cover does't wake it upon opening, but when you connect it to the keyboard it starts. When not using the keyboard you can double tap the screen to turn on (Like LG phones), works well, takes about one second.
carlitos66 said:
I have just received my preordered Tab S4 with keyboard cover, but when I close the keyboard cover it does not turn off the screen. Also when I manually turn off the screen, close the keyboard cover and then open it, it does not turn on the tablet. Is there any setting for this in Settings? Or is this feature not available anymore?
Thx.
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I will certainty return my keyboard cover. I need a good slim profile case that wakes up my tablet and has an S Pen holster.
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I will certainty return my keyboard cover. I need a good slim profile case that wakes up my tablet and has an S Pen holster.
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I have returned the keyboard cover and bought regular slim profile book cover, which turns the Tab on and off with no problem. I wonder why Samsung's keyboard cover doesn't have this function.
Keyboard cover magnet
carlitos66 said:
I have just received my preordered Tab S4 with keyboard cover, but when I close the keyboard cover it does not turn off the screen. Also when I manually turn off the screen, close the keyboard cover and then open it, it does not turn on the tablet. Is there any setting for this in Settings? Or is this feature not available anymore?
Thx.
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It appears that Samsung put the magnet in the wrong place in the keyboard cover. If you do not mount the tablet in the cover so that you can move the tablet up and down in the case - against the keyboard - you will find that with the tablet slid about an inch up from center that the magnet kicks in and the screen turns off.
I have a plain book cover, from Amazon that I paid $9.90 for that works PERFECTLY! For the price I paid for the keyboard cover, it just HAS to be RETURNED! Hopefully, Samsung will get their manufacturing screw-up resolved.
Thanks Jeffrey, that's interesting find with the magnet position. That's probably why Samsung support over the phone told me to try to move the TAB in the cover up and down. Anyway, I have returned the keyboard cover already and also bought just plain book cover that works very well and has the "ON" and "OFF" function.
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It appears that Samsung put the magnet in the wrong place in the keyboard cover. If you do not mount the tablet in the cover so that you can move the tablet up and down in the case - against the keyboard - you will find that with the tablet slid about an inch up from center that the magnet kicks in and the screen turns off.
I have a plain book cover, from Amazon that I paid $9.90 for that works PERFECTLY! For the price I paid for the keyboard cover, it just HAS to be RETURNED! Hopefully, Samsung will get their manufacturing screw-up resolved.
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Curious if the standard cover has that type of support then.
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The normal book case works fine. It's just the keyboard case that doesn't work with the tablet's cover detection.
It was the same story on the Tab S3. This product is broken by design. Still, at least they didn't forget to leave a hole for the camera this time. The manual of the keyboard cover for the Tab S3 pictured a gap for the device's camera, but the accessory itself didn't have one. If you wanted to take a photo, you had to remove it from its protective case, which kind of defeats the purpose of a protective case.
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The normal book case works fine. It's just the keyboard case that doesn't work with the tablet's cover detection.
It was the same story on the Tab S3. This product is broken by design. Still, at least they didn't forget to leave a hole for the camera this time. The manual of the keyboard cover for the Tab S3 pictured a gap for the device's camera, but the accessory itself didn't have one. If you wanted to take a photo, you had to remove it from its protective case, which kind of defeats the purpose of a protective case.
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It seems like the keyboard case for both the S3 and S4 were fairly rushed, honestly.
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It appears that Samsung put the magnet in the wrong place in the keyboard cover. If you do not mount the tablet in the cover so that you can move the tablet up and down in the case - against the keyboard - you will find that with the tablet slid about an inch up from center that the magnet kicks in and the screen turns off.
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I am pretty sure this is not the case. True, the keyboard cover has magnets. If you move the tablet around, those magnets may trigger wake up function as you observed, but that's not their intended purpose. They are there to hold the keyboard cover closed when the tablet is inserted. And they align perfectly with another pair of magnets in the tablet (you can just slide something like fork along the edge of the tablet/case to see whey there are). If you move the table as you suggested so they work as wake up magnets, then the cover will not stay closed.
I believe the official book cover has another magnet that triggers wake up function. The keyboard cover does not do have wake up by design, maybe because they expect you to mostly use it in keyboard mode and as was said before, when you attach the keyboard, that will trigger wake up. I agree that it's kind of a silly decision. I would like to have wake up at least as an option. But it's not faulty manufacturing.
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I have just received my preordered Tab S4 with keyboard cover, but when I close the keyboard cover it does not turn off the screen. Also when I manually turn off the screen, close the keyboard cover and then open it, it does not turn on the tablet. Is there any setting for this in Settings? Or is this feature not available anymore?
Thx.
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It unfortunately is not a feature. the only way the keyboard shuts off the screen is if you were using the keyboard and then disconnect the keyboard from the tablet
I tried putting a small neodymium magnet on the outside of the case and it seems to work. Meaning, all you need is a magnet in the right position. That position seems to be right above where the bottom right edge of the tablet would sit when you mount it to use the keyboard. If only i could x-ray this thing to see if there is any sensitive components behind the plastic in that area, I would drill it and embed my magnet there. Its plenty thick enough to flush mount the magnet there...
I think that's not the way the Keyboard Cover works.
The Keyboard Cover is only for people who always use it.
I own one, actually 2 as I also bought for my wife, and to automatically TURN ON your Tab is by connecting it to the keyboard.
And to automatically TURN OFF your Tab is by disconnecting it from the Keyboard.
That's my 2 cents...I hope it helps
I've had the Tab S4 since before the Android 9 update and had both the Samsung Keyboard case and the regular book case and both would wake and put the tablet to sleep when opening and closing it BEFORE the Android 9 update. After it only seems the book case will do the wake/sleep functions but not the keyboard case. I think it's just software and it's really frustrating because that update has been out for months and nothing's changed I still have to manually put the tablet to sleep after closing it which defeats the purpose of the magnets built into both devices (keyboard case and tablet).