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Here is my short story.
My mom and I went into a AT&T store to update my phone in March 20014. I was carrying around an old iPhone 4s and I was well over due for an update. I updated to the Galaxy note 3 and I surly Love it!! I haven't been able to put it down for some time and there was a little bit of an update for my phone. I went from 4.3 to 4.4. My mom was curiosity about the whole android thing, and wanted to try one of their devices out, so the sales guy sold here a note 8 sha-i467 tablet. I wasn't expecting this additional purchase, so I didn't do any kind of hard research on tablets, other than I want something that had both smart phone and tablet size features, and I found that for my update.
Sadly, my mom ended up hating this tablet Calling it a piece of S***. This was due to a number of bugs and slow speed of the OS on this device. It currently has1 jelly bean 4.1 versions.
I have been trying in vein to find some way to update this phone to the 4.4.2 version. I don't care if it's legal, and I don't care about voiding that warranty. I just want 4.4.2 on that tablet...
On the side of our frustration, I think AT&T sold us a product that is being dropped soon. There is has such a low demand for this product that they wont release an update for this model. I now loathe AT&T for Delivering such crappy service. All they want to do is push products around and make a huge buck off of people who don't like their service. The discontinue of our service with the tablet will now cost us a $150.00 fee.
I'm not happy with At&t, they disrespected my mom by taking advantage of our lack knowledge with the line of products. I would gladly paid for the higher price items if It would had avoided this problem.
HeyYouBob said:
Here is my short story.
My mom and I went into a AT&T store to update my phone in March 20014. I was carrying around an old iPhone 4s and I was well over due for an update. I updated to the Galaxy note 3 and I surly Love it!! I haven't been able to put it down for some time and there was a little bit of an update for my phone. I went from 4.3 to 4.4. My mom was curiosity about the whole android thing, and wanted to try one of their devices out, so the sales guy sold here a note 8 sha-i467 tablet. I wasn't expecting this additional purchase, so I didn't do any kind of hard research on tablets, other than I want something that had both smart phone and tablet size features, and I found that for my update.
Sadly, my mom ended up hating this tablet Calling it a piece of S***. This was due to a number of bugs and slow speed of the OS on this device. It currently has1 jelly bean 4.1 versions.
I have been trying in vein to find some way to update this phone to the 4.4.2 version. I don't care if it's legal, and I don't care about voiding that warranty. I just want 4.4.2 on that tablet...
On the side of our frustration, I think AT&T sold us a product that is being dropped soon. There is has such a low demand for this product that they wont release an update for this model. I now loathe AT&T for Delivering such crappy service. All they want to do is push products around and make a huge buck off of people who don't like their service. The discontinue of our service with the tablet will now cost us a $150.00 fee.
I'm not happy with At&t, they disrespected my mom by taking advantage of our lack knowledge with the line of products. I would gladly paid for the higher price items if It would had avoided this problem.
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There is not yet a 4.4.2 from Samsung for the 5120 which is the LTE version although the wifi and 3G version (5100 and 5110) have been out for a couple of weeks. However there are differences that prevent us from using those stock ROMs. Your i467 and my i467M (Canada) are rare and not well supported even for a 4.2.2 ROM.
I've been told that the 5120 4.2.2 ROM will not work on our phones, and that when 4.4.2 Kitkat comes out for the 5120 (maybe a month) it will not work on our phones. I was going try the stock 4.2.2 from the UK and then flashing the Rogers radio from my i467M, but I've been told that its more than the radio. Ive been told it could brick my ROM.
Unless some good developer takes up this project its not going to happen. There were too few of these sold.
harry_fine said:
There is not yet a 4.4.2 from Samsung for the 5120 which is the LTE version although the wifi and 3G version (5100 and 5110) have been out for a couple of weeks. However there are differences that prevent us from using those stock ROMs. Your i467 and my i467M (Canada) are rare and not well supported even for a 4.2.2 ROM.
I've been told that the 5120 4.2.2 ROM will not work on our phones, and that when 4.4.2 Kitkat comes out for the 5120 (maybe a month) it will not work on our phones. I was going try the stock 4.2.2 from the UK and then flashing the Rogers radio from my i467M, but I've been told that its more than the radio. Ive been told it could brick my ROM.
Unless some good developer takes up this project its not going to happen. There were too few of these sold.
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Damn... so what can I do with this tablet? Can I root it at least?
HeyYouBob said:
Damn... so what can I do with this tablet? Can I root it at least?
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Of course. Read through the forums for info.
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Damn... so what can I do with this tablet? Can I root it at least?
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Root is possible, but no unlocked bootloader=no custom recovery=no custom ROM=you're stuck on 4.1.2
IT SUCKS
elrayray said:
Root is possible, but no unlocked bootloader=no custom recovery=no custom ROM=you're stuck on 4.1.2
IT SUCKS
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You are right, he has the AT&T, not the Rogers. At least the Rogers has no locked bootloader.
AT&T SUCKS note 8 still doesn't have 4.4.2
OMG it's been months and not even a hack to force install 4.4.2 in this tablet? This blows. Can anyone show me a way to use kitkat on this device. I still can't believe no one has release 4.4.2 and now they are about to release 4.4.4 on all of the latest devices. I will forever hate AT&T forever!!
OTA 4.4.2 is out
OTA 4.4.2 Is out.
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OTA 4.4.2 Is out.
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how to install OTA manually ??????????????????????????
SAMSUNG SGH-I467 doesn't have ROM to install
AT&T is not very kind
ATT may have done the same thing with the i467 that they did with the i747 in that updates frlom 4.1.1 were only available via OTA updates. A complete ROM was never released.
The only way to get to KK, assuming the OTA is still available, would be to flash back to stock 4.1.2 and run the software update option. If the tablet has a 4.3 or newer bootloader, I don't think you can downgrade to 4.1.2.
This may be of use as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63405477&postcount=33
Compiled Kernel from KK-opensource
Dear members,
I have compiled the kernel for SGH-i467 from the kitkat open source (haven't tried installing it, though).
Please find the files here: drive.google.com/open?id=0BzqAvkZtEm_7d3l5RFduYW9wbHM (Add https infront). I am not able to post the link as I am a new user.
The source code and other files are available here:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3w-dFE5Q3FOY1R4U3JVZW83bE0 (Add https infront)
Hi, thanks but you do realize that this thread hasn't been touched since 2015 right?
Anyways, we don't need to append https, if I just copy/paste the link in chrome, it can add it by itself.
msp4u4ever said:
Dear members,
I have compiled the kernel for SGH-i467 from the kitkat open source (haven't tried installing it, though).
Please find the files here: drive.google.com/open?id=0BzqAvkZtEm_7d3l5RFduYW9wbHM (Add https infront). I am not able to post the link as I am a new user.
The source code and other files are available here:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3w-dFE5Q3FOY1R4U3JVZW83bE0 (Add https infront)
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Hello all,
I am fine with either, although I do plan on rooting and installing a custom rom on the note 4 (that is when one comes out?)
I am just concerned that the Verizon Note 4 will be better in the long run, rather than the Developer Edition. I assume the Verizon variant will get more future support.
BUT I think just the Developer Edition has been rooted at the moment.
So any input to which device I should get?
Not sure this is even a debate. There is a reasonable chance the retail version will never even get rooted, and if it does on 4.4.4 there is not guarantee that the root will stick with an upgrade to 5.0.
hiddenfive said:
Hello all,
I am fine with either, although I do plan on rooting and installing a custom rom on the note 4 (that is when one comes out?)
I am just concerned that the Verizon Note 4 will be better in the long run, rather than the Developer Edition. I assume the Verizon variant will get more future support.
BUT I think just the Developer Edition has been rooted at the moment.
So any input to which device I should get?
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I think you answered your own question. If you want a custom recovery and root then you're going to have to go to the Developer Edition. If I had to bet, I'd say that root for the Retail version is not going to happen. To add to that frustration for retail owners, Lollipop will come along and that very well make it even harder to find a root exploit for the DE, no one knows about Lollipop yet.
I voted with my wallet and bought the DE.
It sounds like you've got a pretty good grasp of the situation. One thing that I'd throw in is that I'm not at all worried about not getting official support from Verizon. Every Android phone I've ever has has been rooted within minutes of getting it and I have never once taken an OTA update from Verizon. I've always been able to update through ROM releases much quicker than Verizon releases official OTA updates.
One other thing I should throw in though on the side of getting the consumer edition, the warranty will be longer. I believe the DE only comes with a 30 day warranty.
If you're interested, EMSPilot has already released a custom ROM for the DE.
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I voted with my wallet and bought the DE.
It sounds like you've got a pretty good grasp of the situation. One thing that I'd throw in is that I'm not at all worried about not getting official support from Verizon. Every Android phone I've ever has has been rooted within minutes of getting it and I have never once taken an OTA update from Verizon. I've always been able to update through ROM releases much quicker than Verizon releases official OTA updates.
One other thing I should throw in though on the side of getting the consumer edition, the warranty will be longer. I believe the DE only comes with a 30 day warranty.
If you're interested, EMSPilot has already released a custom ROM for the DE.
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And FireKat is coming as well...
Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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I switched from Sammy note 1 to G2 then G3 and now have both G3 & G4. Never need run custom ROM B4. Only Stock ROM and Cloudyfa's Stock ROM. I just love the LG UX.
Now with G4 's UX 4.0 simply awesome. No lagging for me for I only have G4 for 2 days and no root. IDK what to tell you try it don't like it just return it xD. Even my 1 year old low end LG Gpad 7.0 V400 got Lollipop OTA update in April. What to complain when LG USA MOBILE send me a Brand New LG G4 H815 to keep.
Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
Yeah, I'm wondering because it took my Z3 about an eon to update from 4.4.2 to 5.0.1, and that I really did not like. But hopefully this is an easier device to fiddle with when it comes to root and recovery than my old Z3, which was a pain in the butt sometimes. Had a good experience with my previous LG Optimus 4X HD when it came to getting it rooted with custom recovery, but man that phone is so old that it just lags when you barely look at it.
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Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
rogconnect said:
How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
Sent from LG G3 D855 Powered by L Speed 2.2
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Thanks for the info... Not sure what the childish 'so there' was about though!
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
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That's exactly why I always go for sim-free phones and avoid the networks/carriers - much better chance of getting updates sooner (although I appreciate the short-term expense makes this unavailable to some).
Unless you have a Nexus device, I wouldn't even hope to get updates. The G2 was slow as hell, and only received 1 update ever with TMO.
Updates from LG are really good and fast. I have G3 and I can not complain.
Great story
hopefully lg goes straight to android m
Depends on the device. In the UK no G2s have Lollipop yet. Not even SIM free ones.
does anyone know if lg will be globally releasing an official lollipop for the wifi variant (v500) ? contacted lg Australia and the rep didnt really know . I tried the Korean lollipop kdz but i didnt like it cause of the Korean region specific additions (remote ,etc). Have other regions received the wifi variant lollipop update ? also has official support for the device stopped ( no new software updates ?) thanks
*searched and didn't find a similar thread so i thought i would ask
If LG doesn't know, there's no way an XDA user knows. People can only speculate.
Probably not. This is a fairly old tablet by now, and as much as I love it, and it still performs smoothly, I ultimately believe LG has stopped support for it. You might just as well use the Korean build and just disable the stuff you don't like, at the end of the day, the only remnants that can't go away are the Won symbol instead of $ on the keyboard shortcuts and the Kweather source instead of Accuweather.
I doubt it @keith456.
I didn't like that ROM either, I thought the hardware should have made the device feel quicker. I was about to flash a Slim build on it when the Marshmallow build turned up so I put that on it. I'd suggest trying that, I've been very impressed with it so far. Obviously it's a bit more involved than staying official but if you've had the tablet for a while you're probably out of warranty already.
Agree, I flashed Marshmallow and i'm totally satisfied
Hi, I was hoping someone could explain something for me. I'm looking through the forums and seeing the threads for roms and kernels specifically for H815 and H811, usually separate. I'm from the US, considering the G4 on T-Mobile. As I understand it, both can have the bootloaders unlocked (H811 comes unlocked, and the H815 can be unlocked).
I know the H815 has had Marshmallow released, and the H811 has not yet.
What I'm wondering and what I can't find a straight answer to is why, for example, when I look at CM downloads, I can find a v13 for H815 but only a v12.x for H811. The best answer I could find is something about there not being a released bootloader or modem for the H811 compatible with that. I don't know if that was accurate or not, but if it is that confuses me because I've had a Galaxy SIII whose last carrier Android release was 4.4.2, yet is still getting CM 13 releases pretty quickly and other AOSP updates from developers. Is the reason the H811 isn't just because there isn't enough people or developers using that model, so less are working on an updated kernel compatibile with it? I've never had to update my modem or bootloader for an update between Android versions, so I'm assuming that answer was wrong unless there's something I'm missing? I don't think there's a real hardware difference between the two models besides the modems/bands supported, right?
I'm trying to figure out my best option here, have had a Samsung Galaxy SIII since Aug. 2012, bootloader unlocked not too long after, and have really liked it until recently when I was having a slight issue with streaming audio over my mobile network and decided to switch back to stock for a short time to see if it fixed it and compare some settings, stupidly not realizing that in the 3 years I had been away from the stock firmware that Verizon had locked down the firmware again to 4.4.2 and nobody has figured out how to get around it.
I'm looking for a phone that I can install AOSP or CM or similar Roms on (Although I'm not against playing around with the LG Stock Android, it doesn't look that bad, but I want the choice) and am really hoping user removable battery and MicroSD slot. It's not a major must, but I would also like a fairly good camera.
Sounds like my best bet is either the Nexus devices or the LG G3 or the G4 H811. These all either have unlocked boot loaders or ones that are easy to more or less unlock, which I know is something I'll want if I don't want to be stuck on the version of Android the manufacturer supports. I can't stand the size the Nexus 6 or 6P is, haven't had a chance to see the 5X, but it's lacking the removable battery and memory card. I'm currently on Verizon, and would prefer to stay there, but am considering T-Mobile as a potential possibility. If I go with a G3 I'll stay with Verizon, if I go with a G4 I'll have to switch to T-Mobile.
I've seen the G3 and G4 in person, I like both, but prefer the G4 just based on the color temp of the screen, the camera, and battery charging (The G3's in Verizon's store were all low on battery because the charger couldn't keep up, but the G4 was fine I'm assuming because of the quick charging). But, it's looking like the G3 is currently better in terms of development support than the G4. My worry is in a year or so I may be stuck on a version of Android, whereas with my GS3 (Up until it got re-locked) it was still being actively updated. I can get the G3 online for ~200$ versus ~$400 for the G4, and the rest of the specs on the phone aren't different enough for me to care that much about seeing as my GSIII was handing all my requirements until recently.
Wasn't sure if this was the best place to post this, but my only option for the G4 is the T-Mobile H811, and if there is a big reason why that isn't supported (Whether it's because there's not a large enough user base or something else) then perhaps it's best I not consider that device?
It's been a long time since I've done much with porting Android and have been focused on the device I've had for the past 3.5 years, so I might be missing something here. If anyone can clear some of this up for me, it's be appreciated.
Thanks.
If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
Sorry for the bad english
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If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
Sorry for the bad english
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Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
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Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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That's what I was asking about... Why do they need T-Mobile to release an update? I mean obviously it's easier if they do, but is it required or is it just majorly helpful? I'm asking because my current phone this whole "bootstack" stuff was never needed for developers to release updates. I'm just looking for that clarification to make sure that there's not some new requirement with this device that I'm not used to seeing that would make it unlikely to see development in the future, say if LG or T-Mobile decided to not update to the next version of Android after Marshmallow, if we'd be stuck on Marshmallow, or if the development could keep going like it did on the phone I currently have, where the manufacturer stopped development on Kitkat, but people are still releasing even current marshmallow builds.
I would not buy the G4 again.
For some reason it struggles with games.
Qi Wireless Charging is very very very wonky.
Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
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Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
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Okay, if that's the reason why the v10 doesn't have any real development going on, that would make sense. I wasn't aware that that was a requirement. Figured it was just that there wasn't enough knowledgeable people working on it yet.
I got a clarification from a friend as to the bootloader question... I guess normally an updated bootloader has been needed moving from 5.x to 6.x, which doesn't appear to have been needed with the GS3 I have... I guess people must have rigged something, because updating the bootloader was never a step with that. He has a Nexus 5 (the orig one) and said he's had to flash a boot loader several times for this reason.
i'm too lazy to read all of this, but i was planing a long period of time to buy the G4, but i found some hardware cons and problems in it as a result of my deep search on youtube , gsmarena users reviews, xda forums and more.
The one problem that made me decide not to buy it and not to think about it any more is the self-die / bootloop hardware problem. read about it on xda bro. Adding this big possibility to the other cons (hardware + some software complexity) made this deal very risky as it will be my second device within less than a year.
i don't know if i'm right and made a good decision, i was believe in this device and i love it ..