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I will be getting Android mini-PC (Android TV) stick, waiting for this one: http://dx.com/p/cozyswan-mk809-ii-a...b-ram-8gb-rom-wi-fi-tf-bluetooth-black-185736 . The purpose was to see how I can convert my older TV into multimedia station for internet and streaming from laptop, etc.. While I'm waiting, I started to think if there are any advantages of connecting it to Note 2? I don't know much about these android-on-a-stick devices to even think how it could be used. I assume it will be a host, so if I connect Note 2 with usb cable (non-OTG) it will be accepted as peripheral device so I can stream pictures, movies, etc. through android-on-a-stick on tv? That does sound kind of redundant since I can probably do the same thing from a stick itself, but I'm also thinking even with Android 4.1 the stick will not have access to Play store and I'm not sure if I will be able to root it.
I just don't know what to expect. I know it should work connecting directly to tv hdmi port (of my cable box hdmi port?), but I want to come up with something cool where I can connect Note 2 to is as well. Probably on the go I can tether this stick to my Note 2 4G connection, and have it as stand-alone mini PC. But if I want to connect it to Note 2 (as a display), would it work if I get HDMI (female) to micro-usb cable?
Anyway, any ideas or thoughts - let me know, even if you think its a stupid idea to begin with. Either way, once I have it and play around with it, I will do some kind of a write up with pictures
quad core
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I will be getting Android mini-PC (Android TV) stick, waiting for this one: http://dx.com/p/cozyswan-mk809-ii-a...b-ram-8gb-rom-wi-fi-tf-bluetooth-black-185736 . The purpose was to see how I can convert my older TV into multimedia station for internet and streaming from laptop, etc.. While I'm waiting, I started to think if there are any advantages of connecting it to Note 2? I don't know much about these android-on-a-stick devices to even think how it could be used. I assume it will be a host, so if I connect Note 2 with usb cable (non-OTG) it will be accepted as peripheral device so I can stream pictures, movies, etc. through android-on-a-stick on tv? That does sound kind of redundant since I can probably do the same thing from a stick itself, but I'm also thinking even with Android 4.1 the stick will not have access to Play store and I'm not sure if I will be able to root it.
I just don't know what to expect. I know it should work connecting directly to tv hdmi port (of my cable box hdmi port?), but I want to come up with something cool where I can connect Note 2 to is as well. Probably on the go I can tether this stick to my Note 2 4G connection, and have it as stand-alone mini PC. But if I want to connect it to Note 2 (as a display), would it work if I get HDMI (female) to micro-usb cable?
Anyway, any ideas or thoughts - let me know, even if you think its a stupid idea to begin with. Either way, once I have it and play around with it, I will do some kind of a write up with pictures
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Hello, if you're planning on buying an android stick, why invest in a dual core one when the quad core sticks are out, check the link below
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tron...188-2G-DDR3-Wifi-Bluetooth-TV-BOX-314524.html
i am not sure about new ways to connect it to the Note 2, but the traditional ways is to puch pictures/videos/music via DLNA
it would be interesting to know whether you can mirror the Note 2 screen to the android stick similar to apple TV
The CozySwan is basically an android device. Think of it like a tablet without a screen. So basically you'll just need to attach it to your tv (via hdmi) and you're ready to go (Well, it might need a mouse or keyboard to operate it). So attaching it to the Note 2 would be redundant. You can use the Note 2 just like the CozySwan. Attach it to your tv (via hdmi) and use either a bluetooth mouse or keyboard. If you get the smart dock then there are more possibilities.
Check out this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nh2NSLgaII&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I like this video of the smart dock as it explains a lot of what it can do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hy3wETf5o0
as well as this video of the OTG, MHL, and other accessories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IiRyigUH0
Thanks guys! I guess no other special trick with that stick other than what I have already expected. In theory this $48 android stick can replace functionality of $99 smart dock and add more stuff to it (wireless kbd/mouse instead of bt), etc. I guess will play around with it once I get it.
I didnt even check to see who was the op.... you dabble in these things so maybe you can show us whats up when you get it...
Review of MK809-II Android TV with lots of pics!!!
Since I already started this topic and didn't know where it will take me, I wanted to post an update since I actually got that Android TV dongle and found it to be pretty cool. Maybe I will try to figure out how to make it work with Note 2, because for $48 it's cheaper then Samsung multimedia dock and offers way too many other options
So, this is a Review of MR809-II Android TV dongle: http://dx.com/p/cozyswan-mk809-ii-a...b-ram-8gb-rom-wi-fi-tf-bluetooth-black-185736
After reviewing numerous accessories for N2/N7/S4, I'm switching my gears and decided to do a project of converting my tv into "smart tv". If you think about, that's what the whole Google TV is about - taking your regular old TV and bringing it up to a new level with an enhanced option of Android and the same benefits you get from your Smart phone or tablet. I didn't want to buy any old gen stuff with overheating problems and those old AC adapters with round connector, or something that will cripple my use by not allowing access to Google Play, etc.
The unit I received came packaged very nicely with a lot of bonus connections. The main Android dongle measures about 110mm x 40mm x 10mm and weights about 34g. In addition to that, you get HDMI extension cable just in case if you don't have easy access to plug the stick into the back/side of your TV. It also came with OTG adapter with micro-usb to full USB connection which can turn the spare micro-usb port on the stick into another "host" to allow connection of other peripheral devices without a need for a hub. And you also get a quality AC adapter with a full 2A output to use usb to micro-usb cable to power up the device. I noticed older generation device were using round plug wall adapter which always a drag to carry around. This device, you can use ANY of your smart phone ac charging adapters, as long as it 2A (like the one which came with Note 2).
Now, about the spec of the device. This one uses RK3066 CPU, dual core Cortex-A9 with clock speed up to 1.6GHz; 1GB of DDR3 memory, and 8GB of internal memory which can be expanded further with micro-sd card (from a built in slot). The built quality seems to be decent, not flimsy at all; it looks like a big usb stick with a cap over HDMI port. Also, I noticed the back has vents for additional cooling. While using it, I haven't noticed too much overheating. The device supports WiFi and Bluetooth, and I had no issues with it's connections. I have my router on the first floor while I was testing it with a tv in our bedroom on the second floor, pretty far away. For interface, I was using Anker mini keyboard (candy bar type of BT keyboard with a touch pad). At first to initialize it I had wired mouse plugged into USB host port (no need for OTG adapter, goes right into full size USB port labeled "host" on the stick) to pair up with BT device. Once I did it the first time, afterwards mouse was unplugged and I was using mini BT keyboard to control it.
The stick came preloaded with Android 4.1.1 and full access to Google Play!!! I was very pleased with that since I know a lot of cheap tablets don't have access to Google Play and you have to side load your apps. Not with this device. I signed in with my Google account, and was able to get to Play right away. Also, with its file manager, I was able to connect to other devices shared on my wifi, such as network hard drive. I have seen some people complaining about wifi connection with their MK809-II, but let me reassure you the one I got worked perfectly. It also supports every possible audio, video, music, and picture format under the sun.
Overall, setup was very easy where within minutes I was running full tablet interface on my TV. This is my first Android TV experience and I was very pleased with the results.
Here are some pictures to ago along with my review:
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i have the imeto one i have xbmc i it awesome setup
Just out of curiosity.. Do you think the App TabletRemote will work with this? It'll be cool to use your phone as the remote. I haven't tried the app myself so I don't even know how it works.
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Just out of curiosity.. Do you think the App TabletRemote will work with this? It'll be cool to use your phone as the remote. I haven't tried the app myself so I don't even know how it works.
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Never heard of it, gotta try it out!
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Just out of curiosity.. Do you think the App TabletRemote will work with this? It'll be cool to use your phone as the remote. I haven't tried the app myself so I don't even know how it works.
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yes. there are several wifi remotes that work
Tmart mini HDMI 2 AV converter
I decided to take my setup one step further to see how I can convert my dinosaur TV into smart TV. I still have to try out that app to use Note 2 as a tablet remote controller, but in this review I would like to talk about taking my previous setup of Android on a stick and turning an old tube tv into a smart tv with a help of this little gadget: http://www.tmart.com/MINI-HDMI-to-AV-CVBS-to-RCA-Converter_p163569.html
It's hard to believe TVs without HDMI input ever existed lol!!! But if you have one in your house which has lasted your for 10+ years and still working great, you are stuck with AV inputs as the only mean of connecting any peripheral devices. So if you got yourself a shiny new smart phone with HDMI dock or have Android-on-a-stick device to turn your tv into a big screen tablet - there is NOTHING you can do without converting HDMI into Analog audio/video. This kind of converter box becoming extinct, just like all those TVs, so its really hard to find one for a reasonable price. The one I got is the cheapest I found for about $40 shipped in US or internationally from Tmart.com. If you are in US, make sure to select "us warehouse" shipping from location, that one ships from NJ. Otherwise, you gonna end up waiting for awhile if it ships from HK.
I was a little nervous with this one because I saw an output with a typical red/white audio and yellow for video but video said "CVBS". But it worked flawlessly. First of all, it's a tiny little box I weighted to be 40g (1.4 oz) and about 60mm x 55mm x 20mm. You get full size HDMI input, AV RCA connector output, and PAL/NTSC switch for your video signal (so you are covered for both US and EU), and mini-usb input for power. It comes with mini-usb to USB cable in case if you don't have one considering everything switched to micro-usb, and also instruction booklet. As you can see, plugged in my Android stick, hook up wires going to TV, switched to NTSC and thats ALL! You DO NOT even need to power it up with external cable!!!!!!! I can only guess it gets its power from HDMI pins of Android stick since those are powered up. Of course, we are talking about HD widescreen output intended for a tablet going to 4:3 ancient tv so the image is squeezed on the sides. But it has nothing to do with a conversion, but rather with different "display resolution".
I know in this day'n'age of HD TVs it's hard to believe there is TV without HDMI input. But if you still have an old TV without HDMI input and don't want to throw it away, you can breath in a new life for $40 Remember, you can just plugin your Note 2 or any other smart phone with usb to hdmi adapter or from your multimedia cradle.
Here are the pics:
Those boxes are handy, especially connecting an older projector into a ps3. How is the performance of the stick? Give it a few benchmark runs. Thinking about getting one of these myself.
xartic12 said:
Those boxes are handy, especially connecting an older projector into a ps3. How is the performance of the stick? Give it a few benchmark runs. Thinking about getting one of these myself.
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Which benchmark app do you want me to run?
Yes, the box definitely comes handy. I seen also another one, I believe on Tmart.com as well where you convert AV back to HDMI. This way you can connect old WII console to a new tv. I was very pleased that no external power was required to this box, and it stayed cool (no overheating).
Still need to get around to try using Note 2 as a remote tablet controller. That would be ultimate!!!
3d mark and antutu would be appreciated.
vectron said:
Still need to get around to try using Note 2 as a remote tablet controller. That would be ultimate!!!
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Been using the Minix G4 version of what you bought. Its been the best thing for my smart(less) plasma since hooking it up! Rooted and running a custom jellybean rom and havnt looked back since!
I credit Sony PS3 DRM for forcing me to put an Android box on my plasma. I have never been happier since. Thanks Sony!
As for using the Note as a remote, grab yourelf a copy of Droidmote - both (client and server).
I looked Droidmore app and it seems that Client side app is free while Server side app is paid. Not a problem, but Server side requires a root which I wasn't planning to do. So, I went to TabletRemote and it DID the trick!!!! It took a bit to configure. Need to install the same app on your Note 2 and Android stick connected to tv. Both have to be on wifi. Then, in Connection need to make Android stick to be Discoverable while on Note 2 scan for devices. Once they will auto-discover each other and display a pop-up with a matching code - click on pair up and you are done. The app on the phone is arranged as a remote in portrait or a game-pad controller in landscape. As a remote you have 4-direction arrow control with Enter - this will enable you to step through icons, folders, screens on a system hosted by Android stick. You also get menu, return, and home buttons, as well as search and keyboard (for typing) buttons. Plus you get full multimedia control with play/pause, forward, back, and volume control.
Very impressive and it's free!
That's good to know. Thanks for updating.
I have the latest quad core stick and these things are great. Vectron have you rooted or updated your firmware to 4.2?
Not sure about vectrons model but apparently these sticks supports phone mirroring now if you are running the latest firmware on your phone. All the sticks mk##, QC## are the same.
To anyone who wants the official remote app you can find it here:
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.ph...-rockchip-base-android-tv-stick/#.UZuVIqIQayg
Firmware upgrades and root can be found here:
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.php/firmware-download/
And if you are interested in an air mouse/keyboard this one works great. I must say this remote works much better than my lg and Samsung remote which came with my smart TV.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Mele...Android-smart-TV-HD-Computer-HTPC-306590.html
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Hey I just bought this naughty little gadget and very excited to use it. Quick question though, will I need to purchase a wireless/wired mouse to set it up or..? I wanted to install droidmote and use my Note 2 as a wireless mouse, but then I realized that I will need something to navigate to playstore and install DM app. I just never had to use Android Tv's so pardon me folks.
Hi,
I have tested Z1C with both Miracast dongle and MHL cable.
MHL cable is so called 5 PIN cable. The same one that works with Galaxy S2 and HTC One X.
MHL Cable works just fine.
I have also tested Miracast dongle (iPazzport). It connects slowly in Miracast mode. Screen and sound gets transferred to TV very slowly. It is basically unusable. The same dongle works just fine with Asus HD7 tablet.
DLNA mode is not usable either for video. At least not for HD content. It can be used for sound transfer. But it has minor problems also with sound only connections. I have tested with the same iPazzport HDMI dongle and WD HDTV Live box.
Please share your experience.
how is the lag for mhl? i heard some phones get quite a bit of lag.
also, what mhl adapter u use?
Gjole86 said:
how is the lag for mhl? i heard some phones get quite a bit of lag.
also, what mhl adapter u use?
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There is definitely some lag with MHL. I can only express my gut feeling. 50-100 ms, I guess. Is there any good way to measure it?
I am using this adapter:
www.ebay.com/itm/310855110310
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/Decrescent-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-Smartphones/dp/B00I5J6WVY
but it will take 2 weeks more to come.
I plan to order the PS3 controller too for gaming on screen, but not sure how it will be with the lag. also not sure if these cheap ps3 controllers will work or i need the original ps3 controller. for wireless of course, not planing to use wired controllers. maybe xbox wireless can work too. testing to come.
For measuring it, the best method is to start the stopwatch and record the TV and the phone's screen with some point and shoot camera, just stop the video later after 10 seconds for example and see the difference between the times.
at least thats what i read around the net ..
MHL lag.
First, tested using timer app in phone. Took pictures containing both mobile and plasma screen.
Out of 13 shots:
0.1 s delay - 9 times
0.2 s delay - 2 times
All the rest, 1 shot had 0.1-0.3 s delay (between TV frames), another had 0 - 0.2 s delay (between TV frames again).
Second test.Used http://vimeo.com/12505989 test video.
My laptop (connected through display port->HDMI) was 100% in sync. Z1C was 2-3 frames late (on 24 fps video).
I would say, it is about 120 ms delay. And it is huge for a cable connection IMHO.
Shame, Sony, shame!!!
My other phone Galaxy S Advance did much better job with DLNA sharing.
Which means that there must be a problem with WiFi (either HW or SW).
I am really disappointed. Way too many problems with a device that was meant to be almost a flagship. I wonder if all those problems also exist with Z1 older brother as well. Or did Sony cut some corners again...
Anyone who could explain why it's necessary to switch wifi off then on again when you activate media sharing (DLNA)?
Say you sit at home, your wifi is on ofc and you like to send a pic or a track to your AVR or TV, then why does it say "please turn on wifi" when you activate media sharing...
Gjole86 said:
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/Decrescent-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-Smartphones/dp/B00I5J6WVY
but it will take 2 weeks more to come.
I plan to order the PS3 controller too for gaming on screen, but not sure how it will be with the lag. also not sure if these cheap ps3 controllers will work or i need the original ps3 controller. for wireless of course, not planing to use wired controllers. maybe xbox wireless can work too. testing to come.
For measuring it, the best method is to start the stopwatch and record the TV and the phone's screen with some point and shoot camera, just stop the video later after 10 seconds for example and see the difference between the times.
at least thats what i read around the net ..
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Official ps3 controller works great for wireless gaming through mhl, i also dont seem to suffer from any lagging? (gaming,streaming etc)
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How about mirror op sender?
Has anyone tried mirror op sender & mirror op presenter on the xperia z1 compact? Seems rather fast just no audio.
Hi. Should it work with any device that has a HDMI input or it has to be with MHL support. Bought Mhl cable from eBay, phone opens Tv launcher but Nothing comes on TV.
got this jus USD3 .working well http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_k...HTC+EVO+Galaxy+S2+i9000+DJNP&_id=380898940150
MIRROR CAST is crap my lg tv has inbuilt receiver. I was soo ashamed at LG showroom when my expensive Z1c was dropping frames etc while not so expensive LG androids mirror casting really good.I hate sony for there crappy WI Fi chips
Hi All.
I've got a passive mhl cable (no external power needed), this: http://www.delock.de/produkte/G_83297/merkmale.html?setLanguage=un
What should I do with it to use with my Z1C? I connected them, but nothing on the tv screen . I missed something?
Thanks
Hi all, hope someone can help me,
I have an X-Trons branded unit MTCE_GS PX5 unit running Android Oreo (8.0) and all seems to be working well except for the AV-Out.
I was assuming I could use one of the two AV Out connections to connect to the TV in my Campervan to mirror the screen. I have tried to connect to them both but getting no output to the TV.
Is there a setting I need to change or is it not possible and these connections are for something else?
Thanks
KevCorks
Some of these Android head-units only send output to the video out connections when the unit is in Aux or DVD mode.
I ordered two units - one Hizpo-branded unit (MTCE-XRC), which I believe is that same as the Xtrons - and an Eonon-branded unit (MTCE-WWW) - both octa-core, 4GB of RAM and running Android 8.0.
The Eonon-branded MTCE-WWW unit sends the video out signal at ALL times regardless of the input selected - it simply mirrors what is on the head-unit screen regardless of what it is.
The Hizpo-branded MTCE-XRC unit would only send the video out signal if you were playing a DVD or used the Aux input.
Both units, however, did let you view the navigation app on the head-unit screen while also sending the video out signal (so you could still see navigation without interfering with the video output sent to other screens).
I suspect that your video out will only work if viewing a DVD or when using the aux-in input.
Thanks
Thats a bugger!
My intention was to use the head unit when camping to feed to the TV for Iplayer, Netflix etc.
I Don't use a DVD player anymore and don't want to feed a signal into the stereo just to feed it out to the TV, kind of defeats the object really.
Thanks for the quick reply
KevCorks
Yeah, I was kind of disappointed with the way the Hizpo-branded unit worked in that respect as well. I have headrest monitors in my car and really don't use physical DVD's anymore either - so it basically rendered my headrest monitors useless. I ended up returning the Hizpo and kept the Eonon. Although, neither unit has real "dual zone" capabilities like my older WinCE-baded head-units, which allowed me to send both audio and video to the headrest monitors while using the head-unit for something completely different (so I could listen to music while the kids in the back watched movies with headphones). Can't do that with these Android units, which is a shame. Fortunately, my kid is older now so I rarely use the headrest monitors any more (especially since kids have tablets nowdays anyway)...
kevcorks said:
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Thats a bugger!
My intention was to use the head unit when camping to feed to the TV for Iplayer, Netflix etc.
I Don't use a DVD player anymore and don't want to feed a signal into the stereo just to feed it out to the TV, kind of defeats the object really.
Thanks for the quick reply
KevCorks
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The solution for me to use video out was to buy an displaylink usb card with hdmi output , to plug it on USB/OTG and install DisplayLink Presenter.
I try a lot of usb otg to hdmi adapter, and compatible "displaylink" driver because it is very simple without any start program each time.
The problem is to buy the right card: small, compatible OTG, without dc 5v... : for me it was: "Delock Adapter USB 3.0 > HDMI (4K)" / Item No. 62617.
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The solution for me to use video out was to buy an displaylink usb card with hdmi output , to plug it on USB/OTG and install DisplayLink Presenter.
I try a lot of usb otg to hdmi adapter, and compatible "displaylink" driver because it is very simple without any start program each time.
The problem is to buy the right card: small, compatible OTG, without dc 5v... : for me it was: "Delock Adapter USB 3.0 > HDMI (4K)" / Item No. 62617.
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Thanks @myspac !!
I'd like to copy your idea Quick 3 questions:
1) While the adapter is USB 3.0 I assume your unit was USB 2.0 right? No problem for the adapter to work on USB 2 mode, right?
2) How is the delay? noticeable? My idea is to have a 2nd screen closer to the line of sight of the driver, mainly to see the navigation, so delay any will be a problem.
3) Any additional advice?
Kr
Max
Video out Android 8.0 PX5 MTCE XRC upgraded to Hal9k
I have same problem no video outs on mtce xrc i was thinking maybe need to replace mcu software for other one it will work if i put mtce hu ore some other? i dont know if i can put mcu from another manufacture ! so please if someone knows replay to me.thanks!!!
maxiauer said:
Thanks @myspac !!
I'd like to copy your idea Quick 3 questions:
1) While the adapter is USB 3.0 I assume your unit was USB 2.0 right? No problem for the adapter to work on USB 2 mode, right?
2) How is the delay? noticeable? My idea is to have a 2nd screen closer to the line of sight of the driver, mainly to see the navigation, so delay any will be a problem.
3) Any additional advice?
Kr
Max
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did you manage to make the connection afterwards, if yes what did you buy?
thanks
dodis827 said:
did you manage to make the connection afterwards, if yes what did you buy?
thanks
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Yeap, and it mostly worked.
So, I acquired "PPA USB 3.0 to HDMI External Display Adapter 5460", but only because it was available at Frys on my neighborhood and I could return it in case the idea did not work. I guess any DisplayLink compliant adapter would work the same.
Some caveats:
- I never perceived any delay
- Works on Android 8 and 9
- In android 9, sometimes the video is not mirrored. I haven't had time to debug it, it might be the fact that I am using a custom ROM. Plug and Unplug the USB solves it, but as my cabling is not accessible, I usually reset the unit.
- I use the DisplayLink Desktop (Demo) (Early Access) app and NOT the DisplayLink Presenter App (so, you will be using a beta app). Not sure if the Presenter App works.
- The Desktop SW will try to send audio through the HDMI. I solved that with "Lesser AudioSwitch" app to have control of audio routing (maybe the DisplayLink Presenter app does not have this problem?)
All in all, I am happy with the outcome. While not perfect (due to the random black displays now and then), it is not expensive and easy to install.
Hope this helps
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Yeap, and it mostly worked.
So, I acquired "PPA USB 3.0 to HDMI External Display Adapter 5460", but only because it was available at Frys on my neighborhood and I could return it in case the idea did not work. I guess any DisplayLink compliant adapter would work the same.
Some caveats:
- I never perceived any delay
- Works on Android 8 and 9
- In android 9, sometimes the video is not mirrored. I haven't had time to debug it, it might be the fact that I am using a custom ROM. Plug and Unplug the USB solves it, but as my cabling is not accessible, I usually reset the unit.
- I use the DisplayLink Desktop (Demo) (Early Access) app and NOT the DisplayLink Presenter App (so, you will be using a beta app). Not sure if the Presenter App works.
- The Desktop SW will try to send audio through the HDMI. I solved that with "Lesser AudioSwitch" app to have control of audio routing (maybe the DisplayLink Presenter app does not have this problem?)
All in all, I am happy with the outcome. While not perfect (due to the random black displays now and then), it is not expensive and easy to install.
Hope this helps
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Thanks, I have a dasaita px5 with 4 GB of ram with Android 6.1, do you think there is hope that it will work? But every time you turn on the radio does it connect automatically?
dodis827 said:
Thanks, I have a dasaita px5 with 4 GB of ram with Android 6.1, do you think there is hope that it will work? But every time you turn on the radio does it connect automatically?
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I also have the Dasaita PX5 that (originally) came with Android 6.1 (MTC-D version, not E). I don't know if this would work on Android 6.1. DisplayLink claims the app requires "Any Android device running Lollipop 5.0 or later..." and the device is plain USB 2.0... but you never know with old Android releases. Worst case you will have to upgrade to Andoid 8 or 9
The DisplayLink App is able to auto-start every time that the USB port is started and the DisplayLink device is detected (meaning, every time you start the car). In my case, this usually works w/o issues...but once a week it fails to detect the DisplayLink device. This problem could be the device I am using (DisplayLink sells the patent to chinese companies to manufacture their own device), the fact that I am using a custom ROM, or the fact that the DisplayLink app is still beta...
In short: I can not promise it will always work. And I can not promise that any chinese HW will work as well as the one I have.
Also, you might want to route the USB cable using an USB extension cord, in a way that you can plug and unplug the extension without dismounting the whole unit...just in case.
WARNING: my DSP antenna was almost NEXT to the external display, and I originally used cheap HDMI cables to go from the adapter to the display. That messed my GPS in a terrible way (no Satellite found). Problem was solved when I acquired a better (not necessarily top expensive) HDMI cable.
Hope this helps
Max
maxiauer said:
I also have the Dasaita PX5 that (originally) came with Android 6.1 (MTC-D version, not E). I don't know if this would work on Android 6.1. DisplayLink claims the app requires "Any Android device running Lollipop 5.0 or later..." and the device is plain USB 2.0... but you never know with old Android releases. Worst case you will have to upgrade to Andoid 8 or 9
The DisplayLink App is able to auto-start every time that the USB port is started and the DisplayLink device is detected (meaning, every time you start the car). In my case, this usually works w/o issues...but once a week it fails to detect the DisplayLink device. This problem could be the device I am using (DisplayLink sells the patent to chinese companies to manufacture their own device), the fact that I am using a custom ROM, or the fact that the DisplayLink app is still beta...
In short: I can not promise it will always work. And I can not promise that any chinese HW will work as well as the one I have.
Also, you might want to route the USB cable using an USB extension cord, in a way that you can plug and unplug the extension without dismounting the whole unit...just in case.
WARNING: my DSP antenna was almost NEXT to the external display, and I originally used cheap HDMI cables to go from the adapter to the display. That messed my GPS in a terrible way (no Satellite found). Problem was solved when I acquired a better (not necessarily top expensive) HDMI cable.
Hope this helps
Max
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Ok Thank you, I want to buy this StarTech-com-Adattatore-Convertitore-Esterna-Displaylinkd, The manufacturer says it's not compatible with Android, now I don't know what to buy is try, If it doesn't work I throw away 70€
dodis827 said:
Ok Thank you, I want to buy this StarTech-com-Adattatore-Convertitore-Esterna-Displaylinkd, The manufacturer says it's not compatible with Android, now I don't know what to buy is try, If it doesn't work I throw away 70€
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So, what won't work for sure is the feature of "...installazione e aggiornamenti automatici dei driver..." because Win drivers are different than Android. Actually, that looks to me like "tricky advertising", my understanding is that DisplayLink drivers come by default with Windows, so all DisplayLink are plug&play on windows.
Will the device work once you installed DisplayLink app on Android?... it should, but...
Anyway the device looks expensive (although Star-Tech is a good brand) Why not trying with some Chinese HW? Also, is Amazon available on your area? Usually you can return things to Amazon without any issue.
Max
maxiauer said:
So, what won't work for sure is the feature of "...installazione e aggiornamenti automatici dei driver..." because Win drivers are different than Android. Actually, that looks to me like "tricky advertising", my understanding is that DisplayLink drivers come by default with Windows, so all DisplayLink are plug&play on windows.
Will the device work once you installed DisplayLink app on Android?... it should, but...
Anyway the device looks expensive (although Star-Tech is a good brand) Why not trying with some Chinese HW? Also, is Amazon available on your area? Usually you can return things to Amazon without any issue.
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Yes I have Amazon in my area cost so much..... How much did you pay him?
I know it's an old thread, but only one I could find about getting video out to work on these units. Joying now sells a USB to rca video adapter and I wanted to ask if anyone has tried it on different brand units? They say it only works on joying and even messaged me after I ordered one to confirm I had joying unit (I do not in fact but told them to please send it anyway). I have an Xtrons px5 unit with Android 10. The dongle says for joying Android 10 unit so I'm hoping that since most of these units are similar it will still work.
Here is link to that dongle:
Joying RCA Video Out Adapter for Headrest
SKU: V-RCAShip From: China Note: This RCA video out adapter only compatible with Joying Android 10.0 car radio, if you own other system JOYING head unit, please don't buy this. It will ship by China post, 12-28 days to arrive, if you want fast shipping methond, pls pay extra 15USD at this link.
www.joyingauto.com
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I know it's an old thread, but only one I could find about getting video out to work on these units. Joying now sells a USB to rca video adapter and I wanted to ask if anyone has tried it on different brand units? They say it only works on joying and even messaged me after I ordered one to confirm I had joying unit (I do not in fact but told them to please send it anyway). I have an Xtrons px5 unit with Android 10. The dongle says for joying Android 10 unit so I'm hoping that since most of these units are similar it will still work.
Here is link to that dongle:
Joying RCA Video Out Adapter for Headrest
SKU: V-RCAShip From: China Note: This RCA video out adapter only compatible with Joying Android 10.0 car radio, if you own other system JOYING head unit, please don't buy this. It will ship by China post, 12-28 days to arrive, if you want fast shipping methond, pls pay extra 15USD at this link.
www.joyingauto.com
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Did it work the joying adapter?
Eddie31386 said:
Did it work the joying adapter?
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It did not unfortunately.
jmckeejr said:
It did not unfortunately.
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Is it an MTCD
marchnz said:
Is it an MTCD
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It's MTCD/MTCE. Exact model is PBX80JCCL.
jmckeejr said:
It's MTCD/MTCE. Exact model is PBX80JCCL.
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Yes but is it an MTCD type.
You would have noted the posts listing how to ID your unit, based on MCU version.
Hi,
I'd like to introduce my project...
I'm building a vintage kit car using the BMW Z3 (2000 model year) as the base car. I want the car to have access to tech but for the tech to be hidden in the centre console, actually on the underside of the top of the console. The concept is that when no tech is needed (for example at shows) the car will retain its vintage looks but when tech is required (i.e. when being driven) the tech becomes available. I'm imagining a top section of the console which will hinge up and reveal the tablet. There isn't going to be much space on the underside of the console which is why I'm going for a tablet rather than one of the many Chinese android units.
As an aside, I've just ordered an Icebox Octa core 64G Rom / 4G Ram unit (TTF1983 ) for my facelift (2015) Vauxhall Insignia which I expect to arrive in the next week or so.
I've already researched other people's projects which has helped me to get to where I currently am. Where I currently am is ordering many of the bits and pieces which I expect to need.
My tablet project is intended to be a much simpler affair than the Icebox unit:
DAB and FM radio
Rear and, hopefully, front camera
Sat nav
OBD II
Mirror my phone if needs be
What I won't need includes:
Steering wheel controls
Air con management
Electric roof control
Pretty much everything else that an android head unit offers
What I might need is:
BT Phone but in a convertible that's going to be a bit of an issue any way
Because the car will only be used sporadically I need an effective power management system, one which will kick in after perhaps a month's lack of use.
My tablet of choice is a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 (SM-T800) which I happen to have lying around, it's currently running stock Android 6.01 . The tablet is a wifi model so the plan is to hotspot it to my Galaxy S8 when I'm on the road
I've already ordered
a 12V to 5V 3A dc-dc converter
a 4 port USB2 hub
an OTG Y cable to take power from the dc-dc converter to feed the tablet and to move data between the devices
an easycap UTV007 video capture device (for the parking camera units)
a USB to USB relay to allow the easycap to feed the video through to the USB when reverse is connected
an 'intelligent' video selector which has two video inputs (front and rear cameras) and one video output (to the head unit via the USB relay). The unit keeps the relevant camera connected to the output. I need to take delivery of this and play with it to see what it can really do.
an ELM327 bluetooth OBD II device
a NooElec Smart DVB+ device
a Creative Soundblaster DAC
I know that I'm going to need a decent amplifier between the DAC and the speakers (suggestions and recommendations welcome). I might also want a manual volume control, possibly with a push button mute facility. I've probably missed a bunch of stuff...
I've rooted the tablet and tweaked it (overwritten lpm) so that when the ignition is switched on then the tablet will boot. I've used MacroDroid to tell the device to switch off 10 seconds after the ignition is switched off (unless the ignition gets switched on again within those 10 seconds)
I'm looking very closely at the Agama Car Launcher to pull much of it together. There are some aspects of this launcher that I'd like to see improved. For example I'd like to be able to get back to the home screen from the maps screen (or other screens) CarWebGuru places a button on the screen to allow this. It would be nice also to have a split screen so that I can have maps on one side and Audio / OBD / any other app on the other side. I'm aware that I might not get all that I wish for
One thing I'd REALLY like to see improved is the cold boot time which is currently 50 seconds. I might consider a custom ROM if anyone knows of a ROM that will fire up quickly, or any other tweak which will significantly shorten the cold boot time. 10 seconds or less would be nice. I've looked at Cyanogenmod 12.1 or 13 with the quick boot utility but I understand that the quick boot is basically hibernate and may not survive a month without the ignition being switched on.
Hopefully I've given a reasonable overview of what I'm looking to achieve and hopefully there will be people out there that can help tie everything together and troubleshoot when the time comes.
Russell
nice project, good luck with it..
Keep us posted on your project progress...
Wondering how this is coming along?
My question for you is, will the tablet charge and use data via the OTG cable simultaneously? Did you need to run a custom kernel to enable that?
thanks.
Quite in consonance with what I've been wanting to achieve. Nevertheless, the plan was frustrated by other priorities. Would love to see how this emerges. Meanwhile here's a basic experiment I've tried.
My Pixel 6 Pro does not connect to an external monitor via UBC-C to HDMI cable (hope it's not an issue of my specific device). The video signal just doesn't transfer, and I get a black screen on the second monitor. I tried having a look at the dev settings but there seem not to be an option to enable/disable the feature, only to resize windows etc. Any tips?
(The cable worked fine with my previous Oneplus phone and with my friend's Samsung device)
Thanks so much in advance!
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My Pixel 6 Pro does not connect to an external monitor via UBC-C to HDMI cable (hope it's not an issue of my specific device). The video signal just doesn't transfer, and I get a black screen on the second monitor. I tried having a look at the dev settings but there seem not to be an option to enable/disable the feature, only to resize windows etc. Any tips?
(The cable worked fine with my previous Oneplus phone and with my friend's Samsung device)
Thanks so much in advance!
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You would need a DisplayLink dongle and the DisplayLink app, this is the only method to do video out on a Pixel
Project your Pixel phone's screen - Pixel Phone Help
If you have a Chromecast or other device that casts, you can mirror your Pixel phone's screen and audio on
support.google.com
Good to know about DisplayLink dongle and the DisplayLink app! Cheers
Thanks very much for your reply! I'm looking for some of these adaptors on Amazon (UK), but they don't directly specify 'DisplayLink', quite annoying...
I have been looking for a way to reimplement, Miracast compatibility allowing you to cast to any smart device. If anyone is interested in helping please DM me help would be appreciated
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I have been looking for a way to reimplement, Miracast compatibility allowing you to cast to any smart device. If anyone is interested in helping please DM me help would be appreciated
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That's a great idea. Is miracast hardware built into the phone or just a software WiFi stack? I would like to Miracast from the pixel 6 pro.
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That's a great idea. Is miracast hardware built into the phone or just a software WiFi stack? I would like to Miracast from the pixel 6 pro.
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It's software that relies on WiFi Direct. However Google practically pulled all Miracast support from Android in favour of Chromecast, so it will be quite the job to reimplement it even with a custom ROM.
I just want to vent regarding the lack of HDMI capabilities of the pixel 6 pro. I wanted to buy one of these to replace my landline. I wanted to display it via an HDMI dongle on my 4k tv, one with an ethernet port so I could use it as a hotspot/router and root it for call recording. It turns out that to do that, you have to purchase a special display link adapter (expensive) and you are limited to 1080p. So instead I purchased an inexpensive Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G. I ran it through an inexpensive hub that has HDMI and ethernet out. It has 3 usb 3.0 ports and I use one with a mouse. The freaking setup works like a computer, it is just slick. IT PUTS OUT 4K 30HZ RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. The pixel 6 pro has a few advantages like its on hold software and rootability. But the Samsung absoulutely smashes it when it comes to HDMI affordability. And don't even mention chromecast, it won't ethernet properly and wont do 4k. Chromecast is a joke, just buy a Samsung for HDMI. I don't intend to buy another pixel unless they change their HDMI situation.
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I just want to vent regarding the lack of HDMI capabilities of the pixel 6 pro. I wanted to buy one of these to replace my landline. I wanted to display it via an HDMI dongle on my 4k tv, one with an ethernet port so I could use it as a hotspot/router and root it for call recording. It turns out that to do that, you have to purchase a special display link adapter (expensive) and you are limited to 1080p. So instead I purchased an inexpensive Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G. I ran it through an inexpensive hub that has HDMI and ethernet out. It has 3 usb 3.0 ports and I use one with a mouse. The freaking setup works like a computer, it is just slick. IT PUTS OUT 4K 30HZ RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. The pixel 6 pro has a few advantages like its on hold software and rootability. But the Samsung absoulutely smashes it when it comes to HDMI affordability. And don't even mention chromecast, it won't ethernet properly and wont do 4k. Chromecast is a joke, just buy a Samsung for HDMI. I don't intend to buy another pixel unless they change their HDMI situation.
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If you read the product page, you would've realised that the Pixel series has NEVER supported USB DisplayPort Alt Mode (which is what you'd need for direct HDMI connection), and DisplayLink is the only option.
You also don't have to buy the expensive adapters, there are DisplayLink HDMI adapters that cost only $30-ish.
You're also not limited to 1080p only, as there are 4K DisplayLink adapters (albeit more expensive).
You're also complaining about a $800+ phone you want to use as a LANDLINE, needing a $30-80 adapter to work with a TV.
@GivIn2It It's just a theory of mine for a long time, but I'll repeat it. I suspect (no evidence other than what's publicly known about Pixels versus Samsungs) that Google has a contract with Samsung where Samsung sells Google parts and/or manufacturing prowess for the Pixels, or sells them at a only mildly expensive price, in exchange for Google agreeing to not make the Pixels "too" competitive with Samsungs.
Of course, this idea of mine held more weight before Samsung started to make MicroSD slots rare or even just non-existent on their flagship devices (they keep them on the cheaper devices since cheaper devices commonly hardly include any significant internal storage space), but I think it's still a possibility. Who knows, though, I'm just guessing.
Google does depend on Samsung, so Samsung has all the weight to throw around.
I also cannot stand Samsung's Android implementation (up through and including the Note 10+). Hardware absolutely great. Software gets a 2 out of 10 from me.
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If you read the product page, you would've realised that the Pixel series has NEVER supported USB DisplayPort Alt Mode (which is what you'd need for direct HDMI connection), and DisplayLink is the only option.
You also don't have to buy the expensive adapters, there are DisplayLink HDMI adapters that cost only $30-ish.
You're also not limited to 1080p only, as there are 4K DisplayLink adapters (albeit more expensive).
You're also complaining about a $800+ phone you want to use as a LANDLINE, needing a $30-80 adapter to work with a TV.
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I maintain that DisplayLink is overpriced BS. I would not consider anything not capable of 4k, all my monitors are 4k. Any phone I purchase will likely cost at least $800+, but why should I throw money away on accessories that are equally functional and way cheaper on alternate hardware? Google needs to listen, more people are using their phones on Hdmi. Wifi is finicky and unreliable, a cable is solid and trustworthy. And I don't have time to read everyone's stinking fine print on their product page. That info is well buried. I like stuff that just works, and works well, like my Samsung setup. I can't find anything on this pixel that will reliably put its screen on my tv, anydesk, teamviewer, chromecast, all fail regularly, and are low res too boot.