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Okay, I have a general question, can someone please help?
You can use your existing phone on T-Mobile network provided it is a GSM phone and unlocked.
I called T-Mobile and she said you can use AT&T phone on T-Mobile WITHOUT unlocking it because AT&T and T-Mobile have an existing service agreement. Yet, when I call my local store, they said it has to be unlocked regardless.
So which is true? Can I use at&t phone on t-mobile network just like that? Or it has to be unlocked no matter what.
Thanks.
You should just wait till tomorrow and buy the tmobile version. Atleast you know the bootloader will not be locked.
combatmedic870 said:
You should just wait till tomorrow and buy the tmobile version. Atleast you know the bootloader will not be locked.
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Yes, I will be buying t-mobile version tomorrow.
My question, is for another line where I want to use my existing phone from at&t.
Can it be used just like that? Or I have to get it unlocked first?
starrscream22 said:
Yes, I will be buying t-mobile version tomorrow.
My question, is for another line where I want to use my existing phone from at&t.
Can it be used just like that? Or I have to get it unlocked first?
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Need's to be unlocked. Maybe they were confused with roaming agreements. Tmobile has a roaming agreement with ATT to use some of their towers.
Make sure the phone supports freq bands for Tmo. I believe you need 1700/2100 for the regular network and 1900 for their refarmed LTE.
starrscream22 said:
Yes, I will be buying t-mobile version tomorrow.
My question, is for another line where I want to use my existing phone from at&t.
Can it be used just like that? Or I have to get it unlocked first?
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mircury said:
Need's to be unlocked. Maybe they were confused with roaming agreements. Tmobile has a roaming agreement with ATT to use some of their towers.
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boshindo said:
Make sure the phone supports freq bands for Tmo. I believe you need 1700/2100 for the regular network and 1900 for their refarmed LTE.
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best to test it out yourself with tmo sim and note3. nothing like a good experiment.
Has anybody tried a tmobile sim in the sprint note 4? The verizon variant works with tmobile although i dont know if it connects to all of their bands
kwazytazz said:
Has anybody tried a tmobile sim in the sprint note 4? The verizon variant works with tmobile although i dont know if it connects to all of their bands
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The Sprint version will not receive the t mo data bands.
Why would the Verizon work with T-Mobile then?
Aoe316 said:
Why would the Verizon work with T-Mobile then?
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All Verizon devices are unlocked, Verizon works on both GSM and CDMA (Sprint is CDMA only, T-Mobile GSM only)
erik077 said:
All Verizon devices are unlocked, Verizon works on both GSM and CDMA (Sprint is CDMA only, T-Mobile GSM only)
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So if we unlock the Sprint variant we should be able to use a Tmobile sim without issue?
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So if we unlock the Sprint variant we should be able to use a Tmobile sim without issue?
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TMobile (GSM) and Sprint (CDMA) are not even same networks so NO. Most of the phones are locked to one network anyway, but those two have nothing in common
erik077 said:
TMobile (GSM) and Sprint (CDMA) are not even same networks so NO. Most of the phones are locked to one network anyway, but those two have nothing in common
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incorrect information my friend. PLease search xda because thier are several phones from sprint that have worked on tmobile and att. The sprint variant has a international lock a nd a domestic lock. Once they are cracked, then yes, you can use your phone on att or tmobile.. Sprint uses cdma mainly for 3g and voice, and use a sim, yes a sim card for lte. You can call sprint and have them unlock the phone for INTERNATIONAL use only within thier guidelines. So far the note 2 note 3 s3 and s4 have been avaible to use with modification to get onto att and tmbolies networks.
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shethpp said:
So if we unlock the Sprint variant we should be able to use a Tmobile sim without issue?
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yes but the device has to be unlocked via domestic and internationally. We are working on a domestic unlock...
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kwazytazz said:
Has anybody tried a tmobile sim in the sprint note 4? The verizon variant works with tmobile although i dont know if it connects to all of their bands
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yes, it displays "invalid sim"
You forgot to say "some late phones" because only those from Sprint have SIM card
erik077 said:
You forgot to say "some late phones" because only those from Sprint have SIM card
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weren't there some Sprint Samsung phones with no SIM slot, but people modded one in and used them on ATT/TMo?
yeah, still some, but just sayin'...
faceless said:
weren't there some Sprint Samsung phones with no SIM slot, but people modded one in and used them on ATT/TMo?
yeah, still some, but just sayin'...
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Yeah the sprint note 2 was one of them!
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Yeah the sprint note 2 was one of them!
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no, older phones had "sim" cards as well. Touch pro 2 was one of them. So before the samsung devices, the htc international devices were able to as well...
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no, older phones had "sim" cards as well. Touch pro 2 was one of them. So before the samsung devices, the htc international devices were able to as well...
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Yeah I remember the touch pro 2 having a sim card slot.
The slide out keyboard, tilting screen, running Windows mobile AND Android Froyo! Those were the days, here is the link for the sim unlock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555339
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so does it work or not? dont think anyone answered op. im thinkin about getting a sprint unlocked since its much cheaper. thanks
Does the galaxytools unlock work on the Note 4? It says my phone is unlocked but I don't have a sim card to test it out.
jamice4u said:
Does the galaxytools unlock work on the Note 4? It says my phone is unlocked but I don't have a sim card to test it out.
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Unlocked for international travel not for domestic. Hopefully a dev will figure out how to unlock the GN4 for use on other carriers in the US.
'invalid SIM'
weapon007 said:
so does it work or not? dont think anyone answered op. im thinkin about getting a sprint unlocked since its much cheaper. thanks
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Based upon my personal experience, even when the phone is UICC unlocked, it is still locked for domestic use. I unlocked my Note 4 via international at Sprint, but the phone says 'Invalid SIM' when using T-Mobile SIM.
I was able to get an Sprint HTC M7 to work on T-Mobile using just the international unlock method.
Good news though, Sprint will be making most phones unlockable for domestic use by Feb 11th (at least phones made thereafter)... so this means that even if the Note 4 doesn't get some kind of firmware update to allow domestic use, the S6 will and I'm sure somebody will port over the capability.
weapon007 said:
so does it work or not? dont think anyone answered op. im thinkin about getting a sprint unlocked since its much cheaper. thanks
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I would like to know as well.
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the790 said:
Based upon my personal experience, even when the phone is UICC unlocked, it is still locked for domestic use. I unlocked my Note 4 via international at Sprint, but the phone says 'Invalid SIM' when using T-Mobile SIM.
I was able to get an Sprint HTC M7 to work on T-Mobile using just the international unlock method.
Good news though, Sprint will be making most phones unlockable for domestic use by Feb 11th (at least phones made thereafter)... so this means that even if the Note 4 doesn't get some kind of firmware update to allow domestic use, the S6 will and I'm sure somebody will port over the capability.
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Now that it's past Feb 11, we should be able to do a domestic unlock and it should work with Tmobile LTE & voice?
Neo3D said:
Now that it's past Feb 11, we should be able to do a domestic unlock and it should work with Tmobile LTE & voice?
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As specified by Sprint, all phones released before Feb 11th 'will not be DSU(Domestic SIM Unlock) capable'. This means a dev will have to figure out a way to port the S6 modem to the Note 4 and we'll possibly be able to get DSU for the Note 4 that way. (Or at least, that is my understanding of it) Only time will tell at this point.
Use root tools it unlocks the sim I'm using it with at&t now
Hello All-
My Tmobile 6 Edge will be arriving tomorrow- Just curious if I ever decided to switch to ATT would the phone be able to take advantage of all the bands with ATT? Or would I be missing out on a couple?
Thank you for letting me know!
Scoob
scooby-snack said:
Hello All-
My Tmobile 6 Edge will be arriving tomorrow- Just curious if I ever decided to switch to ATT would the phone be able to take advantage of all the bands with ATT? Or would I be missing out on a couple?
Thank you for letting me know!
Scoob
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T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge will fully operate with AT&T services.
LTE-X said:
T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Edge will fully operate with AT&T services.
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Only if we can unlock it
Right now it's unlockable. At least through my efforts.
mehdi_s82 said:
Only if we can unlock it
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Buy off-contract from T-Mobile and ask them to unlock it for you. I never had a problem doing that.
Itaintrite said:
Buy off-contract from T-Mobile and ask them to unlock it for you. I never had a problem doing that.
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Thats what most of us have done. I paid my device in full and they refuse to unlock it until I have been a T-mobile customer for 40 days.
OP - the T-Mobile edge lacks support for LTE bands 29 & 30 which you'll only need in a very heavily populated area. In most situations, the T-mobile edge will work great on AT&T.
verks said:
Right now it's unlockable. At least through my efforts.
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Is that a typo verks? Did you get it unlocked?
Goronok said:
Thats what most of us have done. I paid my device in full and they refuse to unlock it until I have been a T-mobile customer for 40 days.
OP - the T-Mobile edge lacks support for LTE bands 29 & 30 which you'll only need in a very heavily populated area. In most situations, the T-mobile edge will work great on AT&T.
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Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
Itaintrite said:
Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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The issue is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to know HOW to Unlock their own phone. At least that's what they're telling me. Supposedly, they may not have the instructions until after the 10th when the phone officially launches.
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The issue is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to know HOW to Unlock their own phone. At least that's what they're telling me. Supposedly, they may not have the instructions until after the 10th when the phone officially launches.
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I unlocked my phone by using the pre-installed app which, after I hit unlock, claimed the device was unlocked and then simply disappeared from my launcher.
walloftext said:
I unlocked my phone by using the pre-installed app which, after I hit unlock, claimed the device was unlocked and then simply disappeared from my launcher.
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How long have you had tmobile for?
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Itaintrite said:
Ask a friend who's been a T-Mobile customer for 40+ days to do it for you I did that with my sister's Note 4. Just had to use the phone for a day or two for it to register to the network.
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So you used a friend's sim card for 2 days? Did you fully just let them use your phone for 2 days? If I can, I'd rather go this is route than wait another 32 days..
osmosizzz said:
How long have you had tmobile for?
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I have been a T-Mobile customer for about 3 years now. The point I was trying to make is that I didn't have to call T-Mobile to unlock the phone.
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I have been a T-Mobile customer for about 3 years now. The point I was trying to make is that I didn't have to call T-Mobile to unlock the phone.
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That's the thing. you have had tmobile for a while so unlocking it isnt an issue. that app checks how long your line has been active. i just activated mine to get the phone. sucks. i may end up switching to tmobile anyways. still deciding..
I want to buy a T-mobile s6 off craigslist (for $600 rather than $670+tax from T-mobile or $700 tonight only for an international version), but these posts are getting me scared. I also have no intention of starting up service with T-mobile. If I find a friend (or a seller) who is a loyal T-mobile customer, would I be able to unlock it in a timely fashion? Also, what specifically would the process be?
It will work on AT&T but the T-Mobile variant has fewer bands available.
The T-Mobile variant will have all bands with the exception of 20, 29, and 30.
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The T-Mobile variant will have all bands with the exception of 20, 29, and 30.
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Any idea if those missing bands are important or not?
I'd can't say that they are not important, but they do not account for the bulk of what you'll generally use. My understanding is they are going to be used in future high traffic areas, but my knowledge is pretty limited.
I can tell you that I have no LTE issues with my T-Mobile Note 4 which pulls generally the same speeds as my AT&T S6 edge side by side.
I'm in a bit of a predicament regarding purchasing my two S6 Edges. I've been on my two S4s for two years and got a Best buy protection plan for them which ends next month. Lucky for me the plan junked out and I'm getting two Bestbuy gift cards for the original value of my phones. The thing that sucks is they don't sell T-Mobile phones, or at least the T-Mobile S6 edge. I was leaning towards getting two At&t versions of the phone and unlocking them. However, I am not sure if features like VoLte(Voice over LTE). If I'm not mistaken LTE should work but I'm not to familiar with the At&t Edges frequency bands and Tmobiles network bands. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Kingissa said:
I'm in a bit of a predicament regarding purchasing my two S6 Edges. I've been on my two S4s for two years and got a Best buy protection plan for them which ends next month. Lucky for me the plan junked out and I'm getting two Bestbuy gift cards for the original value of my phones. The thing that sucks is they don't sell T-Mobile phones, or at least the T-Mobile S6 edge. I was leaning towards getting two At&t versions of the phone and unlocking them. However, I am not sure if features like VoLte(Voice over LTE). If I'm not mistaken LTE should work but I'm not to familiar with the At&t Edges frequency bands and Tmobiles network bands. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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See attachments for bands supported by both AT&T and T-Mobile variants. If you're asking if both variant support VoLTE, they do.
The AT&T variant appears to covers all T-Mobile LTE bands but does not seem to cover the 1700 band.
Check threads on previous AT&T Galaxy models on T-Mobile.
I wish I could give you better clarity on using an AT&T device on T-Mobiles network, but I just haven't done it. I've only done it the other way around. I can tell you that I have done this for several generations of Galaxy releases and the results in performance has only been subpar on one occasion. I think that was the Note 2 or Note 3. I don't remember which one right now, but the data was just a little slower at times. This isn't what you're trying to do anyways.
I hope that help a little.
Can anyone confirm that the N930V has LTE Band 17 and LTE Band 12? Does anyone have an AT&T SIM they can put into their Verizon Note 7?
Frequency Check says it supports the bands:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AQQ7j/samsung-sm-n930v-galaxy-note-7-xlte
This is a deciding factor on how I am going to purchase my Note 7. This is also pretty big news since the Galaxy S series and the Note series has not supported these bands natively in recent years.
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AT&T N930a PH1 firmware can be flashed onto a stock N930v Verizon Note 7 successfully. This unlocks AT&T LTE bands the same way the S7/S7e does. SUCCESS!
According to Verizon's page, it does not support those bands-
Network
LTE Band 2,4,5,13 LTE Roaming 3,7,8, 18,19,20
GSM/UMTS Quad TD-SCDMA 34, 39 TDD LTE 38, 39, 40, 41
https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-note-7/#?sku=2100174
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AT&T SIM on N930V
I just put my AT&T SIM in my Verizon Note 7 and NO GO
Same result as with my Verizon S7
The SIM works in 3G only.
Jeffrey687 said:
I just put my AT&T SIM in my Verizon Note 7 and NO GO
Same result as with my Verizon S7
The SIM works in 3G only.
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Thank you for trying and confirming. Next quest will be to have someone flash the N930a firmware (recently posted earlier today) onto the N930v device and see if it unlocks LTE band 12/17 just like it did with the S7 and S7 Edge.
AT&T ROM on Verizon Note 7
MrBaltazar said:
Thank you for trying and confirming. Next quest will be to have someone flash the N930a firmware (recently posted earlier today) onto the N930v device and see if it unlocks LTE band 12/17 just like it did with the S7 and S7 Edge.
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Well, I went ahead and flashed the AT&T ROM onto my new Verizon Note 7; and it WORKED !
Yes, I also flashed the .PIT file. Everything went very smoothly.
Nothing like hearing the AT&T jingle come out of a Verizon phone.
So far, I have not had one single problem.
My Note 7 is connected to LTE band 2 where I am in Tempe, AZ
Jeffrey687 said:
Well, I went ahead and flashed the AT&T ROM onto my new Verizon Note 7; and it WORKED !
Yes, I also flashed the .PIT file. Everything went very smoothly.
Nothing like hearing the AT&T jingle come out of a Verizon phone.
So far, I have not had one single problem.
My Note 7 is connected to LTE band 2 where I am in Tempe, AZ
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You are the effing MAN! Heading to the Verizon store in a few hours to buy one. THANK YOU for all your work and trials!
ALL US variants of the Galaxy Note 7 are the same hardware wise. They all have the hardware for the same exact bands. Check under specs on Samsung's website
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SM-N930VZSAVZW
I suppose if you are using a Verizon phone with ATT sim, you need to input the proper APNs.
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Jeffrey687 said:
Well, I went ahead and flashed the AT&T ROM onto my new Verizon Note 7; and it WORKED !
Yes, I also flashed the .PIT file. Everything went very smoothly.
Nothing like hearing the AT&T jingle come out of a Verizon phone.
So far, I have not had one single problem.
My Note 7 is connected to LTE band 2 where I am in Tempe, AZ
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Are you serious? I am not sure that is possible unless you have an unlocked bootloader first.
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AT&T ROM on Verizon Note 7
androidbuff123 said:
ALL US variants of the Galaxy Note 7 are the same hardware wise. They all have the hardware for the same exact bands. Check under specs on Samsung's website
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SM-N930VZSAVZW
I suppose if you are using a Verizon phone with ATT sim, you need to input the proper APNs.
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Are you serious? I am not sure that is possible unless you have an unlocked bootloader first.
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To begin with: I own a Verizon S7 AND a U.S. Unlocked S7. I also own a Verizon Note 7.
While it is true that all Samsung phones are physically the same; it is also true that the different carrier ROMs block certain radio channels/bands. So much for Verizon phones being "Unlocked"
Even with the AT&T APN information entered into a Verizon S7 or Note 7, the Verizon ROM blocks LTE service.
I would never have thought that you could successfully flash the AT&T ROM onto a Verizon Note 7; but I just did it!
My "Verizon" Note 7 now thinks it is an SM-N930A in every shape and form! Strange, but true! All screens and settings show this.
I never even tried to flash the AT&T ROM onto my Verizon S7 as it never dawned on me that it could work.
Jeffrey687 said:
To begin with: I own a Verizon S7 AND a U.S. Unlocked S7. I also own a Verizon Note 7.
While it is true that all Samsung phones are physically the same; it is also true that the different carrier ROMs block certain radio channels/bands. So much for Verizon phones being "Unlocked"
Even with the AT&T APN information entered into a Verizon S7 or Note 7, the Verizon ROM blocks LTE service.
I would never have thought that you could successfully flash the AT&T ROM onto a Verizon Note 7; but I just did it!
My "Verizon" Note 7 now thinks it is an SM-N930A in every shape and form! Strange, but true! All screens and settings show this.
I never even tried to flash the AT&T ROM onto my Verizon S7 as it never dawned on me that it could work.
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I just did it also! Successfully running the AT&T PH1 firmware on my N930v Verizon Note 7. Jeffrey687 I can't thank you enough for confirming the firmware for me.
The hardware between US carrier-branded Note 7 devices is identical. The ROMs are what determines the network and/or LTE bands the device is allowed to use.
androidbuff123 said:
ALL US variants of the Galaxy Note 7 are the same hardware wise. They all have the hardware for the same exact bands. Check under specs on Samsung's website
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SM-N930VZSAVZW
I suppose if you are using a Verizon phone with ATT sim, you need to input the proper APNs.
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Are you serious? I am not sure that is possible unless you have an unlocked bootloader first.
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It's possible to flash the entire firmware from another carrier on these devices. It is not possible to unlock more LTE bands using APN settings, however. Flashing your desired carrier's firmware will unlock the bands necessary.
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To begin with: I own a Verizon S7 AND a U.S. Unlocked S7. I also own a Verizon Note 7.
While it is true that all Samsung phones are physically the same; it is also true that the different carrier ROMs block certain radio channels/bands. So much for Verizon phones being "Unlocked"
Even with the AT&T APN information entered into a Verizon S7 or Note 7, the Verizon ROM blocks LTE service.
I would never have thought that you could successfully flash the AT&T ROM onto a Verizon Note 7; but I just did it!
My "Verizon" Note 7 now thinks it is an SM-N930A in every shape and form! Strange, but true! All screens and settings show this.
I never even tried to flash the AT&T ROM onto my Verizon S7 as it never dawned on me that it could work.
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Would Verizon still allow it on their network? I know the ESN and IMEI numbers are the same, I'm just wondering if the phone reporting as a AT&T Note 7 would trip their system.
I did try AT&T SIM with my verizon Samsung Note 7, and i can see 4G LTE after restarting the phone. no need of ROM updates
Data, VOLTE works after changing apn
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I did try AT&T SIM with my verizon Samsung Note 7, and i can see 4G LTE after restarting the phone. no need of ROM updates
Data, VOLTE works after changing apn
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That makes more sense. Verizon by law is required to sell all their LTE phones fully unlocked.
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I did try AT&T SIM with my verizon Samsung Note 7, and i can see 4G LTE after restarting the phone. no need of ROM updates
Data, VOLTE works after changing apn
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Verizon allows band 2 and 3 for AT&T but Band 12/17 is locked (AT&T main LTE band) so youll get LTE just not AT the full capacity
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That makes more sense. Verizon by law is required to sell all their LTE phones fully unlocked.
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Yes all Verizon phones are sim unlocked but their network bands aren't required to be unlocked.
californiarailroader said:
Would Verizon still allow it on their network? I know the ESN and IMEI numbers are the same, I'm just wondering if the phone reporting as a AT&T Note 7 would trip their system.
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You wouldnt want to run thr AT&T rom if youre on Verizon because the exact same issue might arise as far as not getting all Verizon LTE signal capabilities. Wait for the N930U firmware since that will have all bands unlocked and be completely debloated
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You wouldnt want to run thr AT&T rom if youre on Verizon because the exact same issue might arise as far as not getting all Verizon LTE signal capabilities. Wait for the N930U firmware since that will have all bands unlocked and be completely debloated
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Great, thanks!
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Any Idea when 930U firmware will be available?, Does it contain CDMA Firmware?
Hey all, I found this thread because I am having this exact problem (which you appear to have solved) but, unfortunately none of the technical knowledge to fix it. Would some kind soul mind explaining, in laymans terms, how to get the n930a firmware onto an n930v? I dont know if theres another thread explaining it, but I havent the slightest idea how to begin. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Hey all, I found this thread because I am having this exact problem (which you appear to have solved) but, unfortunately none of the technical knowledge to fix it. Would some kind soul mind explaining, in laymans terms, how to get the n930a firmware onto an n930v? I dont know if theres another thread explaining it, but I havent the slightest idea how to begin. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Just act like you have a N930a and flash the stock at&t firmware using the firmware and instruction in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-note-7/how-to/sm-n930a-stock-odin-firmware-t3444006/page1
Once you have Odin (flashing software) and open the program, you'll see a button for AP, CP, BL, and CSC. The firmware package has a file for each h of these. Click each button and choose the corresponding file for each. Make sure you have Samsung drivers installed first.
1. Plug in phone to computer while on
2. Keep phone plugged in to PC and power it off
3. Put in download mode (volume down, home, power)
4. Open Odin
5. Make sure you see device ready in top left of Odin
6. Click each button and choose each file as explained above
7. Hit start
Unplug when it says success.
Phone will boot with at&t logo and all.
Has anyone here tried the new root file for Verizon S8+
https://download.chainfire.eu/1080/...to-Root-dream2qltesq-dream2qltesq-smg955u.zip
It will only work with an unlocked bootloader. Since all US Snapdragon based S8's have a locked bootloader it useless.
So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
photolarry said:
So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
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photolarry said:
So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
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He clearly states that it only works with an unlocked bootloader. If the snapdragon versions of the S8/S8+ had an unlocked bootloader it would work. Not sure why you could have an issue with him.
nrage23 said:
He clearly states that it only works with an unlocked bootloader. If the snapdragon versions of the S8/S8+ had an unlocked bootloader it would work. Not sure why you could have an issue with him.
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The U version isn't ever unlocked. Not with him. I'm just confused why it seems this would work on that model but it doesn't
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked by any means, it will work.
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If the bootloader ever gets unlocked by any means, it will work.
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You missed my point and question to him. Which is "U" model is LOCKED because it is all phones inside the USA that are distributed by all 4 major carriers. So there is no such thing as SM-G955U which is unlocked. Does not exist. Thus I wanna know why there is even a zip file which chainfire created since it cannot be used on any of these phones. And why would it "get unlocked"....it is done at the factory. Only way to "unlock" it is to use a root method like was done on S7, where it basically involves flashing an engineering boot image/kernel that has root. At some point, this probably will be made and then using same modified ODIN (PrinceComsy) would potentially be the solution.
photolarry said:
You missed my point and question to him. Which is "U" model is LOCKED because it is all phones inside the USA that are distributed by all 4 major carriers. So there is no such thing as SM-G955U which is unlocked. Does not exist. Thus I wanna know why there is even a zip file which chainfire created since it cannot be used on any of these phones. And why would it "get unlocked"....it is done at the factory. Only way to "unlock" it is to use a root method like was done on S7, where it basically involves flashing an engineering boot image/kernel that has root. At some point, this probably will be made and then using same modified ODIN (PrinceComsy) would potentially be the solution.
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I will try and clear up some confusion. All US snapdragon versions of the S8+ have the same model number SM-G955U. There is an "unlocked" SM-G955U version of the S8+ in the US. It is carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked. Apparently the CSC file carries the carrier information in the firmware. Also the S7 was rooted but never bootloader unlocked. So you could use most root apps but you could not modify any system files. The root was achieved with an engineering kernel and was not very useful.(ie bad battery life, phone getting hot and unstable). You could however flash any US S7 to any carrier or even the Unlocked firmware.
But if you cannot flash even the csc, how do you gain root access when Odin basically does nothing. That's my question and point. Seems that if I stick with Galaxy phones that I'm never going to attain root again. Probably because they don't want risks of pay apps being misused. I have one app that refuses to even run if I have usb debugging on. Vendors are getting smarter about locking things down.
It's not Samsung's fault...it is Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. I can't even take my Verizon phone and change it to T-Mobile. That's ridiculous!
If LG lets it's consumers unlock there bootloader then why don't samsung? I'm selling my ccarrier unlocked s8+ and buying a unlocked g6. Screw this crap. I hope samsung goes bankrupt! SAMSUNG ALLOW US TO UNLOCK OUR BOOTLOADERS.
I wish my S8+ was rooted?
kbatrph said:
It's not Samsung's fault...it is Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. I can't even take my Verizon phone and change it to T-Mobile. That's ridiculous!
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The reason you can't do this is the bands are different (I believe). Or, at least Verizon is CDMA while T-Mobile is GSM. I don't know much about the differences between CDMA & GSM, but I know that CDMA phones won't work on GSM networks & vice versa. That's why Verizon phones won't work on T-Mobile. Hopefully that (kinda) cleared it up for you.
mybabyloves said:
The reason you can't do this is the bands are different (I believe). Or, at least Verizon is CDMA while T-Mobile is GSM. I don't know much about the differences between CDMA & GSM, but I know that CDMA phones won't work on GSM networks & vice versa. That's why Verizon phones won't work on T-Mobile. Hopefully that (kinda) cleared it up for you.
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My goodness you could not be any more wrong..... That is no longer the case anymore. Verizon phones work on T-Mobile and all GSM carriers. I should know since I was with Verizon and I switched a while back but am now back on Verizon. Some phones from T-mobile won't work with Verizon but some do. It just depends on the phone and what bands it has. Like the S8 from T-Mobile will work on Verizon but an iPhone 7 from T-Mobile won't because it doesn't have CDMA bands. It's simple research
blackra1n said:
My goodness you could not be any more wrong..... That is no longer the case anymore. Verizon phones work on T-Mobile and all GSM carriers. I should know since I was with Verizon and I switched a while back but am now back on Verizon. Some phones from T-mobile won't work with Verizon but some do. It just depends on the phone and what bands it has. Like the S8 from T-Mobile will work on Verizon but an iPhone 7 from T-Mobile won't because it doesn't have CDMA bands. It's simple research
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me ? it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! ? sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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CDMA is only for 3G. With 4G, Verizon is using LTE GSM (same with AT&T, T-Mobile).
Verizon LTE covers over 98% of their network, but there are still some remote places where there is only CDMA coverage.
Verizon is moving away from CDMA and it will be retired by 2018.
So as long as you don't mind not having CDMA in a few places, any LTE GSM phone with Band 13 would work with Verizon.
Look at HTC U11, it doesn't have CDMA, but it's still advertised as "Verizon certified".
Sadly, the Internationals versions of S8/S8+ don't have band 13. But fortunately, all US versions have both bands 13 and CDMA support. That's why you can switch to any carrier as long as it's a US version.
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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No worries mate. Just wanted to put that out there in case anyone become confused. I meant no disrespect
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neozen21 said:
CDMA is only for 3G. With 4G, Verizon is using LTE GSM (same with AT&T, T-Mobile).
Verizon LTE covers over 98% of their network, but there are still some remote places where there is only CDMA coverage.
Verizon is moving away from CDMA and it will be retired by 2018.
So as long as you don't mind not having CDMA in a few places, any LTE GSM phone with Band 13 would work with Verizon.
Look at HTC U11, it doesn't have CDMA, but it's still advertised as "Verizon certified".
Sadly, the Internationals versions of S8/S8+ don't have band 13. But fortunately, all US versions have both bands 13 and CDMA support. That's why you can switch to any carrier as long as it's a US version.
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My point exactly about the S8's. US variants are all the same no matter what carrier. All Google phones after the Nexus 6 are the same way. The Nexus 6 worked on all US carriers no matter where you got it from and it's like that all the way to the new Pixel phones. Where as iPhone's, just as an example, have different bands when it comes to different carriers. Unlocked, Verizon, and Sprint iPhone's have all bands both CDMA and GSM where as the GSM ones like those bought straight from T-Mobile or AT&T only have the GSM bands.
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me ? it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! ? sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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You're NOT stupid! I had no idea either. I know that I tried to switch my Verizon S8+ to T-Mobile but it wouldn't recognize my IMEI so I just figured the two networks were different
I have a unlocked verizon(xfinity mobile) s8plus on tmobile right now.. The phone had no issues on setup to go on the tmobile network..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-g955u-g955u1-snapdragon-sampwnd-t3658911
So this has changed?