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Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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I hear you and I don"t blame you.
I had the Droid X, Droid Maxx, Droid Turbo, and Droid Turbo 2 and probably the best one out of the lot imo was the Droid X. Not specs wise, but I had the least bit of trouble out of that particular phone than all the rest of them. However, I have grown weary of Verizon handcuffing their phones and me having to sit around and wait for updates, root exploits, etc. So, I have dumped Verizon's locked down phones and have gotten myself an unlocked gsm phone and am using it on T-Mobile. I have already rooted it, partitioned my sd card and am using it with link2sd plus. Feels great to once again truly own my phone.
Yeah I cannot go T-Mobile and will not be doing that I am an Unlimited Data guy, I just going to keep my T2 for now but I am going to try the HTC10 - I hate Samsung and only like 5.2 or smaller screens so LG's are out. Just frustrated with Moto
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I hear you and I don"t blame you.
I had the Droid X, Droid Maxx, Droid Turbo, and Droid Turbo 2 and probably the best one out of the lot imo was the Droid X. Not specs wise, but I had the least bit of trouble out of that particular phone than all the rest of them. However, I have grown weary of Verizon handcuffing their phones and me having to sit around and wait for updates, root exploits, etc. So, I have dumped Verizon's locked down phones and have gotten myself an unlocked gsm phone and am using it on T-Mobile. I have already rooted it, partitioned my sd card and am using it with link2sd plus. Feels great to once again truly own my phone.
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^^^+1 Totally agree, I'd suggest buying unlocked and unbranded from now on. I thought I could take going to a DT2 from a Nexus 6. Long story short, I could not. I got my unlocked Moto X Pure from Swappa yesterday. Goodbye DT2 forums, it's been unproductive.
I'm like you loved droids now not so much. Between Verizon and moto updates suck and warranty issues are horrendous. I would wait for the htc nexus devices before getting the htc 10. At least see what they offer.
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I'm like you loved droids now not so much. Between Verizon and moto updates suck and warranty issues are horrendous. I would wait for the htc nexus devices before getting the htc 10. At least see what they offer.
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Hot the HTC 10 quality is so much better than T2 - I switch phones a lot cost no object - I love the size and the quality of audio. I miss the battery life a little but I got so fed up with Moto. Not only that my shatterproof screen now has a soft dent in it - I had a screen protector too. I will probably get a Nexus if they co,e 5.2 or smaller
Experiencing likewise disappointment, can not get smart lock to work at all, all calls received and initiated go to speed dial, can't easily block numbers, moto voice is junk, tolerating those minors. Most recent, no music over Bluetooth, and the one I'm not able to tolerate, hand set silents notifications so I'm missing texts and calls. I'll be watching the HTC released also, thanks for mentioning those upcoming models. This DDT2 just seems sub par to all my previous Motorola models....And seems like monthly security or other software updates with improvements are non existent.
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Experiencing likewise disappointment, can not get smart lock to work at all, all calls received and initiated go to speed dial, can't easily block numbers, moto voice is junk, tolerating those minors. Most recent, no music over Bluetooth, and the one I'm not able to tolerate, hand set silents notifications so I'm missing texts and calls. I'll be watching the HTC released also, thanks for mentioning those upcoming models. This DDT2 just seems sub par to all my previous Motorola models....And seems like monthly security or other software updates with improvements are non existent.
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On top of all had a screen protector and saw a small dent in it, removed it and guess what that shatterproof lens is soft plastic, it has 1/8" soft indenture in it - right in the middle of the screen. I called Moto and demanded they replace it, just a joke that they put a lens on a phone that actually indents. They wanted me to pay for a new one and I told them now way. I am selling my phone probably but I want it to be perfect for the buyer and it is not. I truly believe the 4th device I got still has some mic issues or proximity issues. Shipped it back Fed Ex (aka they sent me labels ground cheapos) - Now seeing the new Motos being announced and everything is 5.5" screens I am kind of happy I left. The 5.2" is the sweet spot for me. Not saying I will not be back but I was not happy with the all around performance, design and quality of the T2. Tried the Kevlar and Soft grip and very slippery as well.
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Being a Big Turbo fan - I think I moving on to an HTC 10 - Since Google hired them to produce the next Nexus line it is time to leave Moto. Have to tell ya I have 4 Turbo 2's - 2 of them had bad mics and the 4th I believe has bad mics. I think Motos quality control sucks and to get any issues fix is like pulling teeth now. I am just tired of lack of quality of these phones. I have had a refresh and just not totally happy with the Turbo 2 performance.
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I"ve been fortunate to not have any problems with my DT2. The overall performance of my DT2 is incredibly fast and stable. No lag, everything seems to operate just fine. But lately, I've noticed the battery life is less than stellar. I can't seem to find out why my battery drains so fast. I have only played tunein radio for about an hour, made a few texts, asked Google a question, and ZERO phone calls. Took the fully charged DT2 off the charger at about 8 am and it is 11:52 am now. My battery is at 70 %.
I do however run PIA (private internet access) and I a, hoping that is what is killing it. Though it shows very little usage, I'm hoping that is it.
Oh yeah, last night I took some 4K video of my girl's bday for about 6 minutes and my phone was on FIRE!!! Holy cow that thing got hot fast! Guess I'll stick to regular HD video since I don't have a 4K player anyway.
I do not blame you to.
I sold my MXF couple days ago and I'm receiving the SGS7 Edge tomorow!
Had to decide between the SGS7 Edge and the HTC 10.
I think I decided well to cancel my pre order of the HTC 10, because of their constantely delaying.
Users who own both they say sgs7 edge wins over the htc. display, camera, battery, etc.
Me too. I now own an awesome Nexus 6p, and I'm not looking back. Now the only problem is selling the damn thing. Droids are tough to sell since mostly phone geeks buy used phones and the Droid brand is now mostly reviled by them.
It also sucks that the used value for the turbo 2 is so low. These are $624 phones, and they're going for around $350. Why??
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This is my first Droid. Love the styling, love the performance, but they just cracked the bootloader on the Note4, so Ill probably go back to that.
I just pick up another set on eBay for 300.
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The speakerphone just plain sucks on the dt2. I really can't wait to get rid of this phone. I can't wait to check out the htc nexus. Really digging the htc 10.
Hey all
I searched and found one thread similar to this but was hoping to revisit since the OP3 has been out a little longer.
I had an LG G3. Worst phone ever. Screen stopped working so I had to root my Amazon Fire Phone with CM. As much as I'm enjoying the small form factor of this phone, there are a number of issues. I can't take good photos, no mute, no updates, can't talk on speakerphone etc.
Tonight I went ahead and ordered the Moto X pure 32GB with moto care for $49 so thiats $399 total. I then came across the OP3 and it peaked my interest so wondering whether it's a good move. As much good as I read about the OP3 in terms of performance, I read a lot of negatives. Wifi/Bluetooth issues, colour issues, bad speaker, bad video, bad RAM management, slow updates etc.
I want a phone that works well and had good specs so, to those who know, who you recommend sticking with a slightly outdated moto that works well all round or go for the OP3 with its glitches and all?
I would go with the OP3. It's an amazing phone. The new updated solved alot of problems. But you get that with every new phone. But other wise, it's a fantastic phone. I love it.
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I've owned both. Get the OP3. It's lighter, thinner, MUCH faster, has a better camera, the most recent specs, and better battery life.
Plus in 6 months the Moto x pure will be DIRT cheap.
the X Pure has a worse SOC, a worse camera and is significantly older. for equal money the OP3 is significantly better.
now if it was an x pure for $200 or a OP3, then you have a tougher choice.
As your asking in OP3 section,here everyone will suggest OP3.
My brother own a moto x pure and I used it sometimes and my impression are x pure is really a subpar phone.
I'm owner of OP3 since launch day.I don't have a single complain.
If you want top notch dev support then there is no choice other than OP3(do you know OP3 has early CM build on launch day even by that no one even handled device themselves.)
Though both have almost pure nexus like software but OP3 has SD820 (which is a beast), and most important is Dash charge(its extremely fast.65 min and you go from zero to hero)
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As your asking in OP3 section,here everyone will suggest OP3.
My brother own a moto x pure and I used it sometimes and my impression are x pure is really a subpar phone.
I'm owner of OP3 since launch day.I don't have a single complain.
If you want top notch dev support then there is no choice other than OP3(do you know OP3 has early CM build on launch day even by that no one even handled device themselves.)
Though both have almost pure nexus like software but OP3 has SD820 (which is a beast), and most important is Dash charge(its extremely fast.65 min and you go from zero to hero)
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True, asking on an OP3 forum section is a little silly but what I'm trying to see is if the issues, which there seem to be many are sorted or continue. What I am trying to avoid is a spec monster that keeps dropping wifi signals, bluetooth disconnects etc that then needs to be rooted to fix. I'm not the most technically adept person so beyond root and flash, I'm useless.
I know it's a better phone performance/spec wise but I'm wondering about daily liveability. My LG G3 was terrible. Required restarts because it kept droppin network signal, battery was a shocker, phone was laggy at times, wifi signal was weak etc.
Whereas I assume from many positive reviews, the Moto X Pure might not be fastest or most glamouros phone, but it works with minimal issues.
Moto X sucks.
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@RandomGRK, May be I'm lucky owner of OP3 because I'm not facing any wifi or network signal problem .
And about rooting i think unlocking bootloader and rooting is very very simple process like sending one or two commands to your phone for unlocking bootloader and flashing twrp and then supersu. That's very simple.Naman Bhalla has written a very good article on rooting unlocking bootloader.
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Amazon Prime day just forced my decision. Moto X Pure 32Gb for $249. I couldn't say no, even as a short term phone. I'll be keeping my eye on the oneplus 3 though. Thanks for the responses all.
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Amazon Prime day just forced my decision. Moto X Pure 32Gb for $249. I couldn't say no, even as a short term phone. I'll be keeping my eye on the oneplus 3 though. Thanks for the responses all.
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@249 that's really a very good deal
Hi everyone,
I am looking to buy a new phone here in India and I am looking for a phone which will last me atleast 18-20 months from say January, 2017. I loved the battery stats of Moto Z PLay and since I dont game much on the phone apart from normal games and a Dead Trigger here and there, my priority is will the Snapdragon 625 processor be able to handle the upcoming apps and will its battery stay the same (approx) after 2 years or so.
I am a moderate user with social media, whats app and a bit of high net usage on wi-fi. Should I go for this or spend sme bucks more and buy OP3 or OP3T?
Thanks in advance!!!
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I was having the same debate - moto z play vs OP3T. I don't game at all, so the battery life + expandable storage trumps the top end performance and slightly better camera for me. Don't have it yet, but ordered a Z play yesterday. I'm seeing some pretty impressive battery numbers reported on the OP3T as well, so it's no slouch - solid for one day of heavy use
Dev support seems to be at about the same level on both devices at the moment, though if I had to guess, the OP3T will probably win out there in the end - only because in my experience most devs tend to purchase devices with higher end specs.
I've never been a big gamer but in normal everyday use the Z play is faster and smoother than my past few nexus phones. After using the phone for a few weeks the last thing I'm worried about is performance. Dropping it before I get a case is my biggest concern. Get a case or a bumper for this one
I would say go for the Z Play. I have had mine for over a month and it has truly impressed me. I have thought about exchanging for the regular Z but it's insane battery is not worth the extra performance I won't notice. The thing that impressed me most was even though I use it for intense games I have never noticed it struggle. It's mainly because the Z is such a well optimized phone. I think you will be very happy with your purchase.
Best regards
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I've never been a big gamer but in normal everyday use the Z play is faster and smoother than my past few nexus phones. After using the phone for a few weeks the last thing I'm worried about is performance. Dropping it before I get a case is my biggest concern. Get a case or a bumper for this one
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first things I do after buying new phone is case and screen protector. My current Xperia Z2 fell screen down, flat from a height of 4 and half feet and my heart stopped. Picked it up, nothing happened thanks to glass screen protector.
Anyways, the dual sim and sd card option is very attractive and though I wont even fill up the 64GB in OP3T, the spare parts avaialbility and after sale support of OP is dreadful. Till now, the lord of smartphones has been kind enough to keep me away from repair centers, but if it happens on OP, i will keep the phone (if I buy it) as a memento of the stupid decision to buy the damn phone.!!
@RealiZms... thanks a lot for the reply and help..
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I would say go for the Z Play. I have had mine for over a month and it has truly impressed me. I have thought about exchanging for the regular Z but it's insane battery is not worth the extra performance I won't notice. The thing that impressed me most was even though I use it for intense games I have never noticed it struggle. It's mainly because the Z is such a well optimized phone. I think you will be very happy with your purchase.
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If it gives me even 3/4th the battery life and performance after 20 months times (talking abt the Z Play), I will be very happy. I was looking to buy the Moto G4 Plus, but the heating and ghost touch issues put me off. Will be going to check the handset out in a couple of days and will order it during the Christmas/New Year sale on Amazon or Flipkart (Local Indian e-commerce site).
The only thing keeping me from splurging on OP3/3T is the horror stories of after sales service. The lack of spare parts and other things have kept me away from buying even the OP2. Hope my choice of Z Play doesnt dissapoint me.
thanks for your reply and help, mate. :good: :good:
Good day bros.
I was asking the exact same question for the past week. Got rid of my Mi 5 due to its inability to make the NFC transit card work. Non-gamer mostly social media, surfing on my phone use. Was tempted by the great 'bang for the buck' offered by 3T, but I got the Z play in the end because, among other things, the one and only oneplus service centre in my country has closed down.
Not regretting it. No need to root, etc, everything NFC transport sim, fingerprint login with bank apps, Android Pay, it all just works. No hardcore gaming but regular apps work. No annoying china brand UI to deal with.
Oh and the battery life. Insane. I didn't even bring my USB-C wire to the office
Tried the Moto G Plus and returned it due to inadequate performance and ghost touch. Tried the Pixel XL but returned it because overpriced and not perfect. Tried the Moto Z Play and love it. Surprisingly haven't noticed any performance issues aside from the mediocre camera. The UI is very snappy. However the battery will change your life.
I got indian version of z play and let me tell ya, i play in it like a desktop (hardcore) and it gives me 8-9 hour battery. I download 80+GB from wifi each month. Its been 2 month i guess. I think Moto Z Play is the best smartphone within 30000₹ including future considerations.
I'm coming from an LG G3. Loved that phone, but tonight, it just died right in the middle of my using it. It's two years old and JUST went off contract. Took the latest update a few weeks ago and then my SD Card slot started acting flaky. So, I'm thinking this is all part of hardware failure and maybe the SD slot not working was the first sign.
Gaming wise, the G3 was awesome. I play games like Walking Dead No Man's Land, Game of War, Clash of Clans, and I do have games purchases like the GTA games. Does anyone have any idea how well this phone would work with those games? I can get this from VZW for $17/month which is cheaper than what my G3 was on the old contract ($40/month). Of course, after this month, my bill WOULD have dropped $20/month when the phone went off contract. Makes me wonder if VZW did this? lol
In any case, I've read reviews and even though the camera is 16mp as opposed to the 13mp I had on the G3, it sounds like the camera is the typical old Moto camera that ISN'T the best. But, I'm not a proffesional photographer. if it's good for just taking normal family pictures, etc, that's all I care.
Battery life is the big thing. I could get the G3 to last over a day with normal talk and text. But I also game, so I suck the life out the battery pretty quickly.
Any help you can provide if this would be a good replacement will be much appreciated. I've been with XDA for over 5 years ever since I got my first Android phone.
Thanks and I might be joining the family here if I do get this phone.
UPDATE: Starting today, VZW is having the Moto Z, Samsung Galaxy S7 and Google Pixel for $10/month with NO trade-in. So it looks like I'll be getting one of those. Just found out today while looking on their website.
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Tried the Moto G Plus and returned it due to inadequate performance and ghost touch. Tried the Pixel XL but returned it because overpriced and not perfect. Tried the Moto Z Play and love it. Surprisingly haven't noticed any performance issues aside from the mediocre camera. The UI is very snappy. However the battery will change your life.
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I actually dont use the camera much apart from clicking pics at family functions or outings. I dnt think I have even taken a selfie. the camera on Xperia Z2 was great, not only in terms of specs (21 mp and all), but the pics came out great. but if Moto Z Play's camera does what I have read, its adequate for me. If needed will buy a second hand DSLR.
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I got indian version of z play and let me tell ya, i play in it like a desktop (hardcore) and it gives me 8-9 hour battery. I download 80+GB from wifi each month. Its been 2 month i guess. I think Moto Z Play is the best smartphone within 30000₹ including future considerations.
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if it performs the way you said, I might have made a good decision in ordering Moto Z PLay from Flipkart. Only mistake I made was ordering the white one, when I wanted a black one. Well, same thing!!
Hi everyone who helped me in making this decision. I have ordered a Moto Z PLay (white....by mistake ) from Flipkart (indian e-commerce site).
I exchanged it for my old Xperia Z2 and got it for 15k INR or around 230 USD along with all discounts with credit cards and everything. will be delivered on boxing day and thankfully will be able to update on it in next few weeks.
Ciao!!
instigate666 said:
Hi everyone who helped me in making this decision. I have ordered a Moto Z PLay (white....by mistake ) from Flipkart (indian e-commerce site).
I exchanged it for my old Xperia Z2 and got it for 15k INR or around 230 USD along with all discounts with credit cards and everything. will be delivered on boxing day and thankfully will be able to update on it in next few weeks.
Ciao!!
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Apparently Flipkart is selling bad phones
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Apparently Flipkart is selling bad phones
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Bad phones, can you elaborate please?
If you are talking about OnePlus 3 fiasco, its their own doing, trying to get noticed by any means necessary.
instigate666 said:
Bad phones, can you elaborate please?
If you are talking about OnePlus 3 fiasco, its their own doing, trying to get noticed by any means necessary.
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Few Moto z play brought from it are missing its nano coating, had scratches, defective parts etc etc. That's why I brought from Amazon. Even review on z play in Flipkart is bad.
i am shocked many people say it doesn't support wireless display/mirroring/miracast . Is it true ?! And is it a good buy after htc one m8 gold (with the jbl mod) in performance/multitasking ?!
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i am shocked many people say it doesn't support wireless display/mirroring/miracast . Is it true ?! And is it a good buy after htc one m8 gold (with the jbl mod) in performance/multitasking ?!
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I got an LG 65" smart TV, a 55" Samsung smart TV and 52" Vizio Smart TV, MirrorLink to smart TV is not working with any of them. However you can use an application named AllCast from play store (it's a paid application, the free one gives you only 5 minutes of transmission time for free), with that application you will be able to mirror videos, pictures, power points, etc to the smart TV. You can't mirror the entire content from your phone to the smart TV, but that is good enough for me.
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Few Moto z play brought from it are missing its nano coating, had scratches, defective parts etc etc. That's why I brought from Amazon. Even review on z play in Flipkart is bad.
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Okay...
But the phone has 4.0/5 on Amazon and 4.4/5 on Flipkart. But I got a great deal on it on so bought it. Anyways I have had good experiences with both e-commerce sites.
Hi. I've complained and emailed Motorola at least two times after the disaster of my old Moto G4 (water damage) and have voiced out how can they improve things. Now, with planning on buying a G5 Plus I have three main concerns:
1. Having no compass or magnetometer means location services apps like Google Maps (which I use on a daily basis for walking navigation due to the nature of my work and during holiday looking for a nearby restaurant or a place of interest) may function and perform slower than a device with compass. True?
2. Advanced nano coating - I'm worried that when i use my phone in light rain or an accidental drop in the sink might damage the internals when water enter small holes such as mic, speakers, USB port and grooves in-between buttons. So, is it safe or not?
3. Updates - We all know when Lenovo took over Moto updates have been very slow with the current G5 lineup still stuck with 7.0. I'm not into rooting so I depend highly on updates straight from the OEM. But with a near-stock and seemingly optimised software is this a cause for concern? Or better to stick it out with Samsung or Sony which does faster updates?
Some minor concerns are:
1. G5 Plus speakers sound a bit tinnier than last year's model?
2. Camera seem bland and has no image stabilisation apart from a pseudo-EIS at 1080p 30fps but still better than last year?
3. Storage is UFS type or eMMC 5.1?
You sound like you are expecting a flagship level performance from a midranger.
You should be looking for a Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus.
Yes, gps should be a bit finicky for walking navigation for initial navigation, once you start walking it should be fine.
No, it's not gonna be safe for dropping in the sink.
Not even Galaxy S8 or LG G6 got any updates beyond 7.0. For a budget phone don't expect security update every month. I would expect a security update like every 3/4 months. And It's probably gonna jump to Android 8.0 directly at the beginning of next year. Assumption is based on the update of my Moto Z play.
You are right about the camera, but unless you purchase a next year's flagship, there is no better camera than this for less than 300$ price tag.
1) Software problems (i.e. slow updates and the like) are all eventually solved with custom roms
2) if you want hardware that the phone doesnt have, you need to pay more for a phone. this is a great mid level phone
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1) Software problems (i.e. slow updates and the like) are all eventually solved with custom roms
2) if you want hardware that the phone doesnt have, you need to pay more for a phone. this is a great mid level phone
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It's a great mid-level phone that's $200 less than another great mid-level phone, OnePlus 3T !!
And the fingerpad control is life changing (I keep trying to swipe on my Tab S2 tablet's button now!)
I do not think things such as a compass is ONLY found on a high-end device. And things i considered "basic" for a mid-range such as USB Type-C (which has been around for a year now in mainstream devices), blue light filter (again present in Asus tablets since 3 years ago & iPhones as well). And a compass.
And a security update 4 months ago isn't good enough; Google has started to be "strict" in encouraging OEMs to at least patch security vulnerabilities (and maybe some minor bug fixes) every month which again to some is a deal breaker and a very important matter especially nowadays.
I'm not into custom ROMs so I would rather wait for OTA pushed directly by the phone manufacturer.
Saying that I need something more than a 5-inch screen real estate. And one under £250 / $250.
Compass - In the Phone
USB C - Not included for Cost (i'm sure)
blue light filter - Added in SW
Quick Security updates - Added by Custom Roms
If you wait for Moto, you may be waiting a while. There are really a few options..
Buy a nexus
- get the newest updates
- get all the high end features
Use a custom Rom
- get the newest Updates
Don't use nexus or Custom Rom
- Wait for slow manufactures
It's really about as simple as that.
Thanks for the insight.
Would you mind please installing CPU-Z and prove to me the G5 Plus has a compass.
As I have said I am not into rooting or custom ROMs. And besides I might invalidate the warranty of my phone or further damage the software as I still think ROMS are unstable anyway.
So, what you are saying a USB Type-C (a technology which is technically around for over a year now) would be expensive in terms of being incorporated in a device?
Is a blue light filter toggle being baked in the SW difficult to do by a devs?
And would 3GB of memory be enough? Really worried that apps are not kept on memory so apps reload and not load instantly.
Moto G5 Plus has a compass in USA, but not in Europe. Also, yes, 3 GB of RAM is fine. 2 GB is just enough, 3 GB is good, 4 GB is great
Well, that's the trouble right there. One country had slightly altered specs than the other. I wonder what made Motorola-Lenovo decide why us Brits/Europeans don't need a compass in our phones. Stupid really.
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Well, that's the trouble right there. One country had slightly altered specs than the other. I wonder what made Motorola-Lenovo decide why us Brits/Europeans don't need a compass in our phones. Stupid really.
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Probably the same ones that decided the US version didn't need NFC. It's almost like they've decided to the penny what they are going to put into the phones and then they clip a coin to see which market gets what.
After the G4 I decided I'd never own another Lenovo product but I did look hard at the G5. Since my G4 is running ok for now, I've decided to hold off and see if the rumor mill holds true about the G5S later this year. I may take another look then.
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Probably the same ones that decided the US version didn't need NFC. It's almost like they've decided to the penny what they are going to put into the phones and then they clip a coin to see which market gets what.
After the G4 I decided I'd never own another Lenovo product but I did look hard at the G5. Since my G4 is running ok for now, I've decided to hold off and see if the rumor mill holds true about the G5S later this year. I may take another look then.
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When I had the G4 it developed some water damage (the worse I did with the phone was i quickly "washed" it with water under the sink but only for 1-2 seconds nothing more) hence I got disappointed. I held off for a new G5 simply because I was just underwhelmed somewhat and also disappointed because Lenovo decided on (what I view strongly as ) cost cutting exercises as I mentioned earlier such as having no compass, no USB Type-C, "advanced" nano coating and not some IP-rated protection, a measly 5MP front cam and no 7.1.1 on release.
I did saw news of an updated G5S phones but they may not come till late this year so I'm back on the drawing board i.e. getting another G4 by the meantime or buy an old flagship like S7 (which can be had for exactly the same price as a UK-spec G5) or an iPhone 6S or a much cheaper/older Nexus 6P. Lost faith in a Sony phone as battery life has been an issue for me since.
After using this phone
I regret not buying Lenovo p2 or lenovo zuk z2
Z2 has 820
It was being offered for $200
suhridkhan said:
You sound like you are expecting a flagship level performance from a midranger.
You should be looking for a Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus.
Yes, gps should be a bit finicky for walking navigation for initial navigation, once you start walking it should be fine.
No, it's not gonna be safe for dropping in the sink.
Not even Galaxy S8 or LG G6 got any updates beyond 7.0. For a budget phone don't expect security update every month. I would expect a security update like every 3/4 months. And It's probably gonna jump to Android 8.0 directly at the beginning of next year. Assumption is based on the update of my Moto Z play.
You are right about the camera, but unless you purchase a next year's flagship, there is no better camera than this for less than 300$ price tag.
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Hey you, expecting something from a company which previously did the same isn't "expecting flagship performance"
The major reason for people to buy Motog is because they have an impression that Moto provides regular updates, but now when things are changing and Lenovo just killing what Moto was known for than its a few more years in which people would know the reality. Why would have I bought Motog if I could have bought Lenovo P2 with the same price, it's having same specs + a 64bit os + an amoled screen + 5100mah battery + compass sensor. It's because of my expectation from Moto to provide me updates and if they don't then moto's uniqueness would be self destroyed and me and I believe many like me would find nothing which would differentiate Moto from other brands.
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So you think a Lenovo P2 is better choice than a Moto G5 Plus phone?
Gino76ph said:
So you think a Lenovo P2 is better choice than a Moto G5 Plus phone?
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Pros in Lenovo P2 but should u really care:
1. 64bit os - all apps that I use are supported by the 32bit Motog, and the performance isnt affected by any means running a 32bit os. Practically it's the same, I have had no issues running the 32bit os on my Moto g since I bought it, if it wasn't for this thread then I wouldn't have even noticed that it has a 32bit os [emoji28]
2. Amoled screen - amoled screen is good for viewing because of its punchy colors but it has its own issues like screen burning, LCD panel isn't bad by any means and if you are coming from a device that already had LCD screen than u would be happy by the display of Moto g. It's just good.
3. 5100mah battery- it's hard to defend this but I prefer a device with 3000mah over 5100mah as sd625 with 3000mah easily gives me 6+ hours of sot by heavy usage and it's the practical amount anyone would use a smartphone is a day, so this makes me charge my device everyday at the end of the day with which I am familiar, having a 5100mah battery would disbalance my stats and would give me 1.5days of usage, but still I would charge my device everyday as I can't charge my device in the afternoon due to life/job/education, so having a 5100mah is good but not practical, not for me, especially with that sweetttt sd625 chip inside, it's the best chipset in the budget market right now, awesome battery life and no heating issues.
Compass sensor- it's good to have as many sensors as possible, the most practical use of the compass sensor is for navigation, and navigation works really fine even without it *with a constant internet connection of course [emoji28] *, until u are used to offline maps and use them for navigation u won't notice any major difference.
Pros with Motog that u can't ignore:
1. The brand value: even if we geeks know that Lenovo owns Motorola but the world in general loves Moto g and is familiar with this brand for decades, Moto demands respect which a fone branded with Lenovo(f*** china [emoji36] ) don't, and that matters.
2. Better updates - even though Lenovo bought Moto the staff of Moto is still there, and I think they will not let us down as they know what we expect from them, Lenovo P2 got nougat update but it's so buggy that some users can't even watch YouTube videos with peace (audio syncing issues), you can see YouTube videos of users telling how to get back to marshmallow also, that's what I mean by "better" updates, that Chinese company can't compete with the technical staff in term of updates. It's 90% sure that we would get android o and it's 100% sure Lenovo P2 won't, coz it's just isn't their thing [emoji23]
3. Better camera- no need to explain on that, it's just the way it is. Best in class
4. That plain screen- Moto g has a plain Gorilla glass while Lenovo P2 has a 2.5d curved glass, it's so hard to find a good tempered glass protector for a 2.5d glass, I own a 2.5d glass device for months now and I am sick of it, with Moto g I can easily get a good tempered glass anywhere, literally anywhere.
5. Stock android- again nothing to explain u about this, just enjoy stock android in its full glory with Motog [emoji4]
That's the reason why I choose Moto g over lenovo P2, Moto g according to me is the most balanced smartphone in the budget segment right now, it don't really excells in anything, it's just a solid allrounder, i have been using it for weeks now and there's nothing to complain about. I was getting Lenovo P2 for ₹11750 ($175.37) and still I choose Moto g(4/32gb) which I got at ₹12750 ($190.29), and I know I would never regret my decision,
thanks for patiently reading this [emoji23]
Peace [emoji111]
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Hi all,
i'm contemplating a change of phones. From LG G4 to Motorola Moto Z2 Play because i could get a pretty nice deal on it. I would like to ask the community here for their opinions. I already saw that is has an overall good rating. Questions are, is there anything i should be aware of if i switch? How's the ROM, bloatware wise? Heat issues, battery issues, GPS issues, known problems and so on. LG G4 has a lot of them and im kinda tired of them, although i love the camera and the GPS precision. Any input is welcomed
Thanks!
The ROM is virtually stock Android. There is no bloatware. Just a couple Moto apps that I think are quite useful.
I ahev experienced no heat issues. My previous DD was a Moto X Pure and that joker got hot.
The battery is awesome. I've not ever experienced this kind of life.
I have not had any GPS or other issues.
Some say the camera is not wonderful, but it functions well enough for me. Afterall, I'm more interested in the radio, since it is a phone with a camera, as opposed to a camera with a phone.
Below is my review, stacking it against the Moto X4. I've had it 5 months now and still feel the same. I love it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75005756&postcount=5
I just downgraded (so to speak) from the S8 to the Z2 Play. No regret whatsoever. The only thing I have to get used to is the lower resolution. Other than that, it's a solid mid-range phone (physically as opposed to glass, and as a device) that feels like a flagship (bar the aforementioned screen resolution).
If you like stock Android I doubt you'll regret it.
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I just downgraded (so to speak) from the S8 to the Z Play. No regret whatsoever. The only thing I have to get used to is the lower resolution. Other than that, it's a solid mid-range phone (physically as opposed to glass, and as a device) that feels like a flagship (bar the aforementioned screen resolution).
If you like stock Android I doubt you'll regret it.
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This thread is for the Z2 Play
Yeah that's what I meant sorry. I have the Z2 Play.
thanks for your replies!
I had a handful of g4s. They all went bad and a 5x too. Camera on the g4 was stunning. Low light with the ois was amazing. The hardware was otherwise garbage but looked gorgeous. The LG software was fabulous if you use it in a work environment where you need solid MS exchange services. Asop exchange sucks. Motorola also has solid exchange support. I'm going to say Motorola builds the most durable hardware of any smartphone except the really old blackberries. Moto has been my choice for years. The problem with Moto had always been the cameras. They were horrible. I had the z play and it was barely adequate. Every Moto phone before that was bad too but everything else was so solid that I was willing to look past it.
The Z2 play has a decent camera and you likely will be happy with it. The sd626 is fast for a low power processor. On par with the 808. I would look for an unlockable bl version vs the Verizon one. Custom covers and Moto mods give a bit of the g4 style. Battery life will be similar to the g4. USB c support means super fast charging and you can plug flash drives in, with an adapter. You can merge the internal storage with an SD card for one huge partition as well. The finger print sensor can double as nav keys for more screen space.
I've owned also a G4 long time ago. I will say battery it's way better on the Z2P and the stock Android experience you don't experience any lag. You will ensure many updates on time.
Now regarding back camera, Z2P it's above average but not comparable with G4 which has very good performance. For front camera Z2P it's better.
Fingerprint works great.
Unfortunately i probably wont get the z2 play anymore. Turns out im not eligible for the promotion due to the fact that im not employed for at least 6months at my current employer. Now i hope this promotion will last for another 2-3 months. By then nokia 7 plus will be out and i cant decide between this 2...
magiQx said:
Unfortunately i probably wont get the z2 play anymore. Turns out im not eligible for the promotion due to the fact that im not employed for at least 6months at my current employer. Now i hope this promotion will last for another 2-3 months. By then nokia 7 plus will be out and i cant decide between this 2...
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That's a shame!
I came here to add another point. If you're someone who enjoys running the latest software then don't go with Motorola. Oreo came out 6 months ago and it's not even on the horizon right now. Motorola's gone down Samsung level of suck with updates but Samsung at least has the excuse of having a complex version. I don't know what Lenovo's doing honestly. That would be my main gripe.
Prosis said:
That's a shame!
I came here to add another point. If you're someone who enjoys running the latest software then don't go with Motorola. Oreo came out 6 months ago and it's not even on the horizon right now. Motorola's gone down Samsung level of suck with updates but Samsung at least has the excuse of having a complex version. I don't know what Lenovo's doing honestly. That would be my main gripe.
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That was one reason why i wanted this phone. Near stock OS and i thought they are better with delivering updates. Guess Nokia would be a better compromise then?
magiQx said:
That was one reason why i wanted this phone. Near stock OS and i thought they are better with delivering updates. Guess Nokia would be a better compromise then?
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From what I can tell it's not really a compromise. They seem to be pretty solid devices. If Nokia sold them in my country I'd get one of them. Stock Android, good updates and a great camera. Motorola has good competition there.
Since Lenovo bought Motorola they've been bad at updates. When Moto was owned by Google up until late 2015 they were way better. They have near stock Android, it shouldn't be that long.
Prosis said:
From what I can tell it's not really a compromise. They seem to be pretty solid devices. If Nokia sold them in my country I'd get one of them. Stock Android, good updates and a great camera. Motorola has good competition there.
Since Lenovo bought Motorola they've been bad at updates. When Moto was owned by Google up until late 2015 they were way better. They have near stock Android, it shouldn't be that long.
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guess ill have to wait and see, since i have to forcefully wait another 3 months... Then I'll check the market again.