what is the difference b/w RETASIA, RETIN and RETAIL Firmwares for Moto Z Play India? - Moto Z Play Questions & Answers

Q: what is the difference between RETASIA, RETIN and RETAIL versions of Firmwares for Moto Z Play. Which one is particularly for Indian Moto Z Play?
[Request]: Please somebody upload official stock Nougat 7.0 Firmware of Moto Z Play for Indian version (RETASIA/RETIN)? There is a 7.0 RETAIL firmware version for Moto Z Play https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/XT1635-02_ADDISON_7.0_NPNS25.137-24-1-4_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip but I doubt that it is not official for India. So please upload stock Nougat 7.0 for Indian version (RETIN/RETASIA) Moto Z Play.

sidg2 said:
Q: what is the difference between RETASIA, RETIN and RETAIL versions of Firmwares for Moto Z Play. Which one is particularly for Indian Moto Z Play?
[Request]: Please somebody upload official stock Nougat 7.0 Firmware of Moto Z Play for Indian version (RETASIA/RETIN)? There is a 7.0 RETAIL firmware version for Moto Z Play https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmwar...ubsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip but I doubt that it is not official for India. So please upload stock Nougat 7.0 for Indian version (RETIN/RETASIA) Moto Z Play.
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RETIN and RETASIA ...both are same .... I've tested both ...no difference ....but baseband is different ..works fine

jatinkhatri said:
RETIN and RETASIA ...both are same .... I've tested both ...no difference ....but baseband is different ..works fine
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Baseband is the important part of the Firmware. As you say that they have different basebands. So which baseband version (RETASIA or RETAIL) is for Indian Moto Z Play?

Nobody is telling the exact difference between RETASIA, RETIN and RETAIL versions of Firmwares for Moto Z Play.

sidg2 said:
Baseband is the important part of the Firmware. As you say that they have different basebands. So which baseband version (RETASIA or RETAIL) is for Indian Moto Z Play?
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Both works fine .... I've tested ...no issues at all

jatinkhatri said:
Both works fine .... I've tested ...no issues at all
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Can you tell me what is RETIN - Software Channel and how is different from RETASIA?

jatinkhatri said:
RETIN and RETASIA ...both are same .... I've tested both ...no difference ....but baseband is different ..works fine
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But there is no RETIN firmware for Moto Z Play. There are only two types of version for Indian Moto Z Play i.e., RETASIA and RETAIL. As you said you have checked the RETASIA version but what about the RETAIL version firmware for Indian Moto Z Play?
And why are you talking about RETIN? Do you type RETIN mistakenly instead RETAIL? And If not then where you find it? I can not find it anywhere?

sidg2 said:
But there is no RETIN firmware for Moto Z Play. There are only two types of version for Indian Moto Z Play i.e., RETASIA and RETAIL. As you said you have checked the RETASIA version but what about the RETAIL version firmware for Indian Moto Z Play?
And why are you talking about RETIN? Do you type RETIN mistakenly instead RETAIL? And If not then where you find it? I can not find it anywhere?
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Yeah it's typo
There is nothing RETIN like thing .... RET means retail and IN means India
You will only find two firmwares RETAIL and RETASIA
I've tested both ...and works fine ...on both ROM you will get OTA update

jatinkhatri said:
Yeah it's typo
There is nothing RETIN like thing .... RET means retail and IN means India
You will only find two firmwares RETAIL and RETASIA
I've tested both ...and works fine ...on both ROM you will get OTA update
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Why my Moto Z Play become bit laggy after unlocking my bootloader? I am on stock Indian Nougat 7.0 ROM (latest updated March security patch) and have installed twrp recovery and Magisk Systemless root v12 without messing any system file/partition. Mobile seems little laggy/jerky sometimes in settings and apps. This problem was not before the unlocking bootloader and installing twrp recovery and Magisk systemless Root. I have also factory reset the mobile and also wipe the Dalvik cache, cache and Data through twrp recovery. But I didn't get any improvement then I reflash stock nougat rom. But the problem of laggyness/jerkyness still existed. What should I do? Any fix or any suggestion?
And please also tell me does most of the android phones get laggy after unlocking the bootloader or after installing the Root?

sidg2 said:
Why my Moto Z Play become bit laggy after unlocking my bootloader? I am on stock Indian Nougat 7.0 ROM (latest updated March security patch) and have installed twrp recovery and Magisk Systemless root v12 without messing any system file/partition. Mobile seems little laggy/jerky sometimes in settings and apps. This problem was not before the unlocking bootloader and installing twrp recovery and Magisk systemless Root. I have also factory reset the mobile and also wipe the Dalvik cache, cache and Data through twrp recovery. But I didn't get any improvement then I reflash stock nougat rom. But the problem of laggyness/jerkyness still existed. What should I do? Any fix or any suggestion?
And please also tell me does most of the android phones get laggy after unlocking the bootloader or after installing the Root?
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It's strange , I haven't faced any issues like yours on any ROM with SuperSU or magisk
Have tried flashing stock ROM with stock recovery ?
You can get from here [1]
I haven't tested 7 ( nougat ) from this link ...so i suggest you to flash 6 (mm) and get nougat through OTA
[1] https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/

jatinkhatri said:
It's strange , I haven't faced any issues like yours on any ROM with SuperSU or magisk
Have tried flashing stock ROM with stock recovery ?
You can get from here [1]
[1] https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/
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Q1. Yes I have installed the stock Nougat Rom (RETAIL version) with stock recovery but I still get laggy experince some times especially with jerky/laggy status bar and toggles.
Q2. And also please tell me that during installing stock nougat ROM, should I completely install all the files in zip like bootloader and modem files etc or just install system files, recovery,boot.img, without touching any modem files & bootloader?
Q3. Currently I am on stock nougat 7.0 Indian Rom, so please tell me 100% accurate safe method (adb commands) to install RETAIL nougat stock Rom.
(Please read all questions and give all answers step-by-step. And please give complete answers. Please, No short answers. I Will be very thankful to you for your help.)

Hey, Mate, I got lags on stock nougat even without root and twrp.
I really doubt that systemless root is to blame here, and definitely not TWRP, since there is no possible way it can affect system performance.

karmacoma7 said:
Hey, Mate, I got lags on stock nougat even without root and twrp.
I really doubt that systemless root is to blame here, and definitely not TWRP, since there is no possible way it can affect system performance.
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I have edited the build.prop to enable the miracast by removing just the # from the line and also edit hosts by adaway. Can it effect?

sidg2 said:
I have edited the build.prop to enable the miracast by removing just the # from the line and also edit hosts by adawat. Can it effect?
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No

jatinkhatri said:
It's strange , I haven't faced any issues like yours on any ROM with SuperSU or magisk
Have tried flashing stock ROM with stock recovery ?
You can get from here [1]
I haven't tested 7 ( nougat ) from this link ...so i suggest you to flash 6 (mm) and get nougat through OTA
[1] https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/
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sidg2 said:
Q1. Yes I have installed the stock Nougat Rom (RETAIL version) with stock recovery but I still get laggy experince some times especially with jerky/laggy status bar and toggles.
Q2. And also please tell me that during reinstalling the stock nougat ROM, should I completely install all the files in zip including bootloader and modem files etc or just i should install system chunk files, recovery & boot.img, without touching any modem files & bootloader?
Q3. Currently I am on stock nougat 7.0 Indian Rom, so please tell me 100% accurate safe method (adb commands) to install RETAIL Nougat 7.0 stock Rom.
(Please read all questions and give all answers step-by-step. And please give complete answers. Please, No short answers. I Will be very thankful to you for your help.)
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You have not give the answer to my question. Please give proper complete answer.

sidg2 said:
You have not give the answer to my question. Please give proper complete answer.
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How about searching for that info on your own instead of waiting for someone to come hold your hand and do it for you?

sidg2 said:
You have not give the answer to my question. Please give proper complete answer.
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I'm out of station ...it's weekend.
It's so hard to type long stories on mobile phones ....

jatinkhatri said:
I'm out of station ...it's weekend.
It's so hard to type long stories on mobile phones ....
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Ok when you go to home then give all answers to my questions. Thanks in advance. By the way, are you a software engineer?

Related

What is the correct way to go from CUSTOM back to STOCK?

I'm using custom roms now and want to test the new indian rom. Which is the correct way to install indian stock again with OTA enabled without bricking the phone since I don't have a deep cable and don't know how to make one?
-flash chinese 1.9.044 using QFIL
-flash some indian stock using QFIL
or
-flash chinese 1.9.044 using QFIL
-lock bootloader
-flash some indian stock using QFIL
or even
-lock the bootloader
-flash chinese 1.9.044 using QFIL
-flash some indian stock using QFIL
I would also like to know the answer to this question! I tried asking multiple times on the ZUKFans.eu forum, but didn't receive a response. It's all very confusing and i'm not sure either on which is the correct method to use.
I also want to know...
Hello
I'm on the Indian ROM ZUI 2.0.093
I just got the handset with this ROM installed.
When I check for updates this is what I get.
Screenshot attached
Please tell me if flashing this CN ROM will get me OTA and warranty services.
Z2131_CN_OPEN_USER_Q01002.1_M_ZUI_1.9.044_ST_160523_qpst.rar
Qn: after I flash the this CN ROM,
1.How will I get Google services.
2. Should I continue to use this CN Rom and do OTA with VPN enabled or
Flash any specific Indian ROM in any specific method to get the services.
I think the seller has unlocked the bootloader.
But there is no custom recovery installed and there is no SuperSU and not sure if the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
(I'll check on this and will update the scenario)
Please help
Also please provide links to flashing guide (CN Rom)
NB:Sorry I'm a newbie and forgive my less knowledge that I understand very less of the older replies to this thread.
Thanks in advance.
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rameeskr said:
Hello
I'm on the Indian ROM ZUI 2.0.093
I just got the handset with this ROM installed.
When I check for updates this is what I get.
Screenshot attached
Please tell me if flashing this CN ROM will get me OTA and warranty services.
Z2131_CN_OPEN_USER_Q01002.1_M_ZUI_1.9.044_ST_160523_qpst.rar
Qn: after I flash the this CN ROM,
1.How will I get Google services.
2. Should I continue to use this CN Rom and do OTA with VPN enabled or
Flash any specific Indian ROM in any specific method to get the services.
I think the seller has unlocked the bootloader.
But there is no custom recovery installed and there is no SuperSU and not sure if the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
(I'll check on this and will update the scenario)
Please help
Also please provide links to flashing guide (CN Rom)
NB:Sorry I'm a newbie and forgive my less knowledge that I understand very less of the older replies to this thread.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my ZUK Z2132 using Tapatalk
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Use FlyVPN and set location as china then check for update. You will get 2 updates one after another and finally to naugat 7.0.
arpan.123654789 said:
Use FlyVPN and set location as china then check for update. You will get 2 updates one after another and finally to naugat 7.0.
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Thank you.
After flashing the rom
Can you please tell how i can get the Google services available?.
After flashing the CN version is there a way to get back to the Indian version?
Thanks in advance
Sent from my ZUK Z2132 using Tapatalk
arpan.123654789 said:
Use FlyVPN and set location as china then check for update. You will get 2 updates one after another and finally to naugat 7.0.
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Assuming you flashed Chinese stock 1.9.044 already,
- Flash Stock ZUI_2.0.093 using QFIL
- Install FlyVPN and connect to any China server eg. Shanghai
- Open updater app and check for updates.
- Update to 2.0.133
- Connect to FlyVPN Chinese server again and check for updates.
- Update to 2.5.104
rockingpiyush13 said:
Assuming you flashed Chinese stock 1.9.044 already,
- Flash Stock ZUI_2.0.093 using QFIL
- Install FlyVPN and connect to any China server eg. Shanghai
- Open updater app and check for updates.
- Update to 2.0.133
- Connect to FlyVPN Chinese server again and check for updates.
- Update to 2.5.104
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This worked for me. Thanks!

Operating system/Firmware question

So, as I understand. This phone works similarly in the way the Moto G did in the sense that the Firmware and the actual ROM are seperate?
firmware controlling things in the background and the ROM being front and center?
Theoretically speaking, I could run Lineage 14.1 with HTC MM Firmware AND Nougat firmware? (Obviously not at the same time)
Only reason I ask is I come from a G3 which requires TWRP and all roms to be "Bumped" so things are a bit different (No bootloader unlock)
johnnzey said:
So, as I understand. This phone works similarly in the way the Moto G did in the sense that the Firmware and the actual ROM are seperate?
firmware controlling things in the background and the ROM being front and center?
Theoretically speaking, I could run Lineage 14.1 with HTC MM Firmware AND Nougat firmware? (Obviously not at the same time)
Only reason I ask is I come from a G3 which requires TWRP and all roms to be "Bumped" so things are a bit different (No bootloader unlock)
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If you read the LOS installation instructions you see that it support both MM and N. Supported firmware depends on the rom, though many roms will ask you during installation which firmware you're running and support both.
Tarima said:
If you read the LOS installation instructions you see that it support both MM and N. Supported firmware depends on the rom, though many roms will ask you during installation which firmware you're running and support both.
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So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?
johnnzey said:
So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?
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Nougat firmware could have more advanced radios for improved signal.
A caution: don't mix Marshmallow and Nougat firmware bits, such as aboot.
I did that and ruined a perfectly good Ten.
michaelbsheldon said:
Nougat firmware could have more advanced radios for improved signal.
A caution: don't mix Marshmallow and Nougat firmware bits, such as aboot.
I did that and ruined a perfectly good Ten.
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So like flashing a marshmallow aboot to a nougat firmware?
If so I wont even be bothering with that stuff.
johnnzey said:
So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?
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The Nougat update gave a performance boost.
And staying up to date with firmware is always a good idea. Google is releasing monthly security updates now.

Moto Z Play from Gearbest (china version)

Hi,
I've just purchased Moto Z Play and didn't know that it's a china version working on Android 6
What's more Android Pay doesn't work - I think because of China ver of system.
I've tried to upgrade to Nougat from dbb - failed
What can I do in order to be able to pay with Android Pay ?
You can flash 7.1.1 https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/development/rom-single-dual-sim-t3620551 but no chance for android pay for now.
Mike
sp5it said:
You can flash 7.1.1 https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/development/rom-single-dual-sim-t3620551 but no chance for android pay for now.
Mike
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Still no chance to use Android Pay? Even with SU, Magisk, etc.? Maybe there is an opportunity to write some information in ro.build.description and ro.build.fingerprint? Thank you!
Flash latest EU 7.1.1 and AP will work with Magisk (Magisk Hide)
Yep, I got Retail 7.1.1 + Magisk = fully working Android Pay on Chinese Moto Z Play
okaban said:
Yep, I got Retail 7.1.1 + Magisk = fully working Android Pay on Chinese Moto Z Play
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I've just got this + magisk =still no chance to use AP. I think the problem is, that in settings I still have region retcn and in SKU XT1635-03(ctsProfile and basicIntegrity - false).. Have no idea...
No, I think you installed Magisk wrong. First time I got check failed too, but when I re-installed Magisk following this https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 - it worked.
Update: And my stock ROM is stock stock, flashed it with RSD, only then installed TWRP and rooted it.
okaban said:
No, I think you installed Magisk wrong. First time I got check failed too, but when I re-installed Magisk following this https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 - it worked.
Update: And my stock ROM is stock stock, flashed it with RSD, only then installed TWRP and rooted it.
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Only this helped me
undifficult said:
Only this helped me
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Glad to hear!
What bands do you get with the Chinese variant?

Moto z play back to stock with retail rom is possible?

Hello,
I'm considering going back to the stock ROM in my moto z play XT1635-02 retla1st but I would like to know if I would have a problem installing the RETAIL version when receiving OTA's or some other problem.
I currently have the bootloader unlocked and a compilation that is not the official one but I want to remove the root and receive the updates without any inconvenience.
best regards
_heberlopez95 said:
Hello,
I'm considering going back to the stock ROM in my moto z play XT1635-02 retla1st but I would like to know if I would have a problem installing the RETAIL version when receiving OTA's or some other problem.
I currently have the bootloader unlocked and a compilation that is not the official one but I want to remove the root and receive the updates without any inconvenience.
best regards
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I do not know if you can downgrade from a 7.1 ROM to a 6.x Stock via RSD and have your phone usable. With some phones if you downgrade to MM you brick it.
If it survives, you would then need to find a way to lock the bootloader.
In the same Android versión it's possible install a retail ROM?
_heberlopez95 said:
In the same Android versión it's possible install a retail ROM?
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I believe if your phone (bootloaders) is 7.x you can RSD 7.x and if phone is 6.x you can RSD 6.x .
KrisM22 said:
I believe if your phone (bootloaders) is 7.x you can RSD 7.x and if phone is 6.x you can RSD 6.x .
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I understand but my question is, I have a ROM retla1st 7.1.1 and my bootloader unlocked I want to close the bootloader and flash the stock ROM but I can not find the version of retla1st with 7.1.1 only encounter 6.0.1 and I can not go back to MM because I understand that the phone is damaged for which I want to install the stock 7.1.1 retail ROM will there be any problems?
I understand but my question is, I have a ROM retla1st 7.1.1 and my bootloader unlocked I want to close the bootloader and flash the stock ROM but I can not find the version of retla1st with 7.1.1 only encounter 6.0.1 and I can not go back to MM because I understand that the phone is damaged for which I want to install the stock 7.1.1 retail ROM will there be any problems?
_heberlopez95 said:
I understand but my question is, I have a ROM retla1st 7.1.1 and my bootloader unlocked I want to close the bootloader and flash the stock ROM but I can not find the version of retla1st with 7.1.1 only encounter 6.0.1 and I can not go back to MM because I understand that the phone is damaged for which I want to install the stock 7.1.1 retail ROM will there be any problems?
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yeah - I don't know - You could try the links at this post and see if it answers your needs...: Let me know!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75364150&postcount=7
KrisM22 said:
yeah - I don't know - You could try the links at this post and see if it answers your needs...: Let me know!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75364150&postcount=7
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I used this guide today, it worked without any problems. I went from rooted 7.1.1 stock september security patch to 7.1.1 stock november security patch with locked bootloader. OTA december security patch worked as well. I even unlocked the bootloader again and am now rooted with magisk safety net passing
tschannik26 said:
I used this guide today, it worked without any problems. I went from rooted 7.1.1 stock september security patch to 7.1.1 stock november security patch with locked bootloader. OTA december security patch worked as well. I even unlocked the bootloader again and am now rooted with magisk safety net passing
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Thanks! I also appreciate knowing what you were on and what it gave you! No problems with carrier or modems? Great!!! @SupahCookie may have a super fix-all! Hope you gave tons of thanks there
KrisM22 said:
Thanks! I also appreciate knowing what you were on and what it gave you! No problems with carrier or modems? Great!!! @SupahCookie may have a super fix-all! Hope you gave tons of thanks there
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No problems whatsoever. I'm on t-mobile germany, channel was reteu before and after
tschannik26 said:
No problems whatsoever. I'm on t-mobile germany, channel was reteu before and after
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Great!!!!!
thanks a lot for your help guys ..!
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Thanks! I also appreciate knowing what you were on and what it gave you! No problems with carrier or modems? Great!!! @SupahCookie may have a super fix-all! Hope you gave tons of thanks there
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Super fix, sounds amazing :3
SupahCookie said:
Super fix, sounds amazing :3
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incroyable!!!

how to get oreo zui for indian z2plus

I came across chinese official oreo zui 3.xx, i want to know if there is a simple way to install it to my z2 plus Indian variant through recovery mode without installing a twrp recovery?
Also is it worth it to get oreo zui?
Oreo is much better rom than nougat. Yeh you can install it without unlocking bootloader and without installing twrp recovery. Good thing is you will still get your warranty as i have availed Warranty with china rom in it
sameer 100 said:
Oreo is much better rom than nougat. Yeh you can install it without unlocking bootloader and without installing twrp recovery. Good thing is you will still get your warranty as i have availed Warranty with china rom in it
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I have Indian version as well so there is no update, I want to change to Chines version so Can you explain to us how to change Chines official stock rom? or link maybe, ty.
sameer 100 said:
Oreo is much better rom than nougat. Yeh you can install it without unlocking bootloader and without installing twrp recovery. Good thing is you will still get your warranty as i have availed Warranty with china rom in it
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Please help me with the process or steps or may be a link to install chinese zui without twrp or bootloader unlock
https://youtu.be/87_2Omp6b3g
Here is the link u can watch it and install china version
I have asked him same questions u can see it was about 4months ago and sameer kalra is the name in comment
chitrarth said:
I came across chinese official oreo zui 3.xx, i want to know if there is a simple way to install it to my z2 plus Indian variant through recovery mode without installing a twrp recovery?
Also is it worth it to get oreo zui?
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official chinese zui do not come with gapps you will have to install them later, gapps packages from opengapps don't work, you have to use google installer but they cause notification problems ..... all this problems not worth it, as you can install custom zui that have gapps but they will need twrp.
Hope this helps...
Read this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/how-to/rom-zui-3-5-243st-z2-plus-z2-t3745636 about the official ZUI 3.5.xxx
You need access to PC + data cable to flash Chinese ZUI. Read that thread, pretty detailed information available on how to.
I did get myself the Oreo via that thread but Chinese ZUI isn't workable due to GApps issue. GApps are there in that ROM, but not the playstore. You have to install Playstore apk.
Not only that, usual ZUI issues are still there plus known issue like Contact sync etc. Lot of work to get it running.
I felt frustrated trying to fix things, then decided to drop the plan and went to other custom rom or simply switch back to stock ZUI 2.5.104 ST (Indian version).
lenovo z2 plus
Can i install the chinese zui without flashing or not?9
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...t/deodexed-z2-plus-nougat-2-5-334-st-t3594483
If you're ready to install a custom ROM you could try jaguar ROM .. that's the same one I'm using ... Really smooth .. I'm on that ROM now for almost 4-5 months and I've had no problem whatsoever .. and I get regular updates too .. only thing is I need to download the update that is from XDA forum itself and dirty flash it from twrp that's it
Hers the Iink to the ROM .. you can check it out ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/development/jaguar-oreo-8-1-official-t3734597/page761
@chitrarth

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