Hello everyone. As you all know, XA1/XA1 Ultra uses the same 23MP IMX300 sensor from Z5/Z5C/Z5P/X/XP/XC/XZ. I happened to stumble upon a review of XA1 on this Turkish technology website (TeknoSeyir - https://teknoseyir.com/sony-xperia-xa1-akilli-telefon-incelemesi) which I like very much. And the reviewer stated that the actual quality of the photo output on XA1 is much better than his own X Compact and the XZ which he reviewed. Of course, he mentions that XA1 lacks in the department of laser autofocus and RGB spectrum sensor, but he says that it's clearly visible that XA1 is much better at filtering the unwanted defects and granulation due to high ISO than, even, XZ. This must be 100% related with the post processing algorithm on the XA1. I wonder if this newer camera software will be released for IMX300 devices as well. Let's gather all the Camera related topics here, and discuss and compare it's performance to other IMX300 devices. Also, can anyone tell us the version of the Camera app on this phone (which you can find under Settings-->Apps-->Camera).
Prior to Xperia XA1 I had Xperia Z3 and I must say the camera quality of Pictures taken with this phone are way better than that. Also low light photos have huge improvement over Z3.
ajaychaudhary07 said:
Prior to Xperia XA1 I had Xperia Z3 and I must say the camera quality of Pictures taken with this phone are way better than that. Also low light photos have huge improvement over Z3.
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Yes, that's what I heard. People have been waiting for an improved algorithm from Sony for a LOOOONG time now. And according to Murat Gamsız (the reviewer in this video, owner of an X Compact), XA1 has better low light performance and less ISO granulation than his X Compact and the XZ which he reviewed. Bearing in mind that these 3 devices mentioned all have IMX300 sensor with f/2.0 aperture, and XA1 even lacks RGB sensor and IR autofocus, but it produces better stills , and this is a major thing of celebration here. XA1 is basicly the same with Z5/X/X Performance in terms of camera, all having the same camera and aperture, and all lacking RGB and IR sensors, so it'd be awesome if Sony could reflect the things they've done to XA1 on our slightly older devices. I'm sure XZ Premium and XZs are already running on this renewed algorithm and the updates for XZ/X Compact are on the way. I just wish Sony treats us (Z5/X/XP users) well while we're on the way out
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XA1 lacks in the department of laser autofocus and RGB spectrum sensor
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I thought the XA1 has laser autofocus just not the RGB spectrum sensor. Maybe some website are reporting it wrong.
However, its amazing how this phone produces better images than my old Z5. Photos do seem to have less noise and appear cleaner than what the do in the Z5.
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Yes, that's what I heard. People have been waiting for an improved algorithm from Sony for a LOOOONG time now. And according to Murat Gamsız (the reviewer in this video, owner of an X Compact), XA1 has better low light performance and less ISO granulation than his X Compact and the XZ which he reviewed. Bearing in mind that these 3 devices mentioned all have IMX300 sensor with f/2.0 aperture, and XA1 even lacks RGB sensor and IR autofocus, but it produces better stills , and this is a major thing of celebration here. XA1 is basicly the same with Z5/X/X Performance in terms of camera, all having the same camera and aperture, and all lacking RGB and IR sensors, so it'd be awesome if Sony could reflect the things they've done to XA1 on our slightly older devices. I'm sure XZ Premium and XZs are already running on this renewed algorithm and the updates for XZ/X Compact are on the way. I just wish Sony treats us (Z5/X/XP users) well while we're on the way out
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It's the sad nature of the business, unfortunately. It makes no sense financially for Sony to update their older hardware. We're lucky they support their devices as long as they do. My original Z went from 4.1 to 4.2 to 4.3 to 4.4 before they eventually stopped updating the roms for it.
I don't understand the finer details of digital cameras, I've no idea what f/2.0 even means, but the XA1 does take some really nice pictures. I've got no complaints here.
ajaychaudhary07 said:
Prior to Xperia XA1 I had Xperia Z3 and I must say the camera quality of Pictures taken with this phone are way better than that. Also low light photos have huge improvement over Z3.
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Aside from the camera, how do you feel about the XA1? Does it feel like an upgrade, downgrade, or the same with a better camera? I too have a Z3 and been thinking of just settling for a mid-range that has a good camera which the XA1 seems to be.
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Aside from the camera, how do you feel about the XA1? Does it feel like an upgrade, downgrade, or the same with a better camera? I too have a Z3 and been thinking of just settling for a mid-range that has a good camera which the XA1 seems to be.
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Yes there are a few things to be considered here like....
Design is different then conventional Sony design .
If you are not a fan of large display phones then definitely you are gonna love it.
Slightly Curved display edges feels good while operating.
WiFi signal reception is better than z3.
Sound is a bit low than z3.
Nought 7 is there.
Multi window support is there as well.
Phone doesn't heat up whether you are on 2g 3g or 4g, it's a major advantage over Z3.
Last but not least despite the fact that it has 2300 mAh Battery it will last longer than z3.
dual sim support as well.
Had anyone tried to use the "Launch & Capture" function?
Everytime I use it, the camera take photo without focusing.
This Quick Capture function is useless if the photo is blurred...
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Had anyone tried to use the "Launch & Capture" function?
Everytime I use it, the camera take photo without focusing.
This Quick Capture function is useless if the photo is blurred...
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Odd, I thought I'd replied to this..
Oh well.
I had a quick play with that function when I read your post. It seems that the camera only focuses if you keep the camera button held down. Otherwise the picture is all blurry.
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dual sim support as well.
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Just to say that I bought my xa1 ultra in Germany back in June so I'm not sure which exact version/model it is. However, I am sure that in no way does it support dual sim. Maybe there's another, perhaps non-European version, featuring dual sim, but this isn't the case...
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Hello everyone. As you all know, XA1/XA1 Ultra uses the same 23MP IMX300 sensor from Z5/Z5C/Z5P/X/XP/XC/XZ. I happened to stumble upon a review of XA1 on this Turkish technology website {...} which I like very much. And the reviewer stated that the actual quality of the photo output on XA1 is much better than his own X Compact and the XZ which he reviewed. Of course, he mentions that XA1 lacks in the department of laser autofocus and RGB spectrum sensor, but he says that it's clearly visible that XA1 is much better at filtering the unwanted defects and granulation due to high ISO than, even, XZ. This must be 100% related with the post processing algorithm on the XA1. I wonder if this newer camera software will be released for IMX300 devices as well. Let's gather all the Camera related topics here, and discuss and compare it's performance to other IMX300 devices. Also, can anyone tell us the version of the Camera app on this phone (which you can find under Settings-->Apps-->Camera).
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Regarding the camera version, my Xa1 ultra was bought back in June, in Germany, and it's the single-sim version (I read on one of the replies to your post that there's another xa1 ultra featuring dual-sim) although I'm not sure if there are any differences other than the 2nd sim capability to the 2 phone versions.
Anyway, details aside, replying directly to your question, the camera version on my phone is 2.0.0.108. Hope this helps.
Good post, my friend. Enjoyed reading it.
Cheers.
quiero esa version
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Just to say that I bought my xa1 ultra in Germany back in June so I'm not sure which exact version/model it is. However, I am sure that in no way does it support dual sim. Maybe there's another, perhaps non-European version, featuring dual sim, but this isn't the case...
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Regarding the camera version, my Xa1 ultra was bought back in June, in Germany, and it's the single-sim version (I read on one of the replies to your post that there's another xa1 ultra featuring dual-sim) although I'm not sure if there are any differences other than the 2nd sim capability to the 2 phone versions.
Anyway, details aside, replying directly to your question, the camera version on my phone is 2.0.0.108. Hope this helps.
Good post, my friend. Enjoyed reading it.
Cheers.
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me gustaria tener de nuevo la version de camara de sony 2.0.0.108 la borre sin querer. crees que me la puedes subir aca?
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Hey guys,
Have been longing to upgrade my smartphone gear, current using Live Walkman(2012), and I am petty much acquainted with Sony's devices now. My main criteria is to have low profile screen, ie. 4.5 Inch and lower so had my eyes locked on Z1 Compact, but after seeing few reviews on the tube and checking the troubleshooting section of the forum, I am kinda confused.
I do not wish to wait for newer compacts because that wont just end there and I do not change phones frequently as well, so I expect to use for 2years. So would like to know if there's an alternative to Z1C or just go for it.
PS: Would like to know from the owners of Z1C, does the volume boost really have the impact on the external speaker sound? I do not listen to music on speakers or something but I do want to get alerted, If I'm in "noisy" situation or similar.
Thanks
probably wait for z2 compact or get z2 if there's no z2 compact coming..
z2 is alot better than z1 or z1 compact.. since it fixes alot interms of hardware imperfections and brought some good features as well
@kurikapooh: SpiritBreak3r clearly stated that he doesn't want to wait for newer models and it should not be bigger than 4,5". Did you even read the post?
@SpiritBreak3r: Maybe I can help since I am currently in the same situation. For days I have been looking for compact normal-sized phones. I have/had the following in my selection: Sony Xperia Z1 compact, Moto G, HTC One Mini, HTC One Mini 2, LG G2 Mini. I am 98% percent sure that I will get the Z1 compact. What is important to me: good camera, good battery, small size. In short this is why the other phones were dropped:
HTC One Mini has a really bad camera, and at most average battery
HTC One Mini 2 is too big and has a bad battery (half of use time of the Xperia), also is more expensive than xperia and slower.
LG G2 mini is much slower than xperia and has worse resolution (I think there was something else, but I can't remember right now)
Moto G is too big and the camera is too bad for my requirements.
They also have som advantages over the xperia like for example the HTC minis have very good speakers and have good build quality. The LG G2 is very cheap and has a good camera. The Moto G is very cheap and still good (except the camera).
In the end Xperia has OK speakers, good camera (the flash problem can be fixed), its the smallest phone of them all, its very fast, the battery is good, its waterproof which is a nice gimmick. Also I really want to have slo-mo recording in 120fps which imho needs a good CPU, so again one point for the xperia.
This might be helpful to you: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_compact-review-1037p3.php
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...torola-Moto-G/phones/8283,8378,7702,8390,8208
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LG G2 mini is much slower than xperia and has worse resolution (I think there was something else, but I can't remember right now)
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Maybe stupid back-buttons?
And I really don't get why everyone says the Z2 is so much better than the Z1, all it has over the Z1 series is (arguably much) better speakers, better screen (but not over the Compact, Z2 and Z1C are both IPS) and a faster CPU. But hardware-wise it ends there. Certainly not something worth waiting for if you're after the Compact version of the Z2. I personally find the Z1 series more comfortable to hold than the Z2 series as well.
@SpiritBreak3r I am running CyanogenMod and the speaker is pretty loud, but I know for a fact that it goes way louder on stock Sony ROMs if you use the audio boost features. What is it you are confused about?
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I am running CyanogenMod
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Are you using a snapshot or did I miss a stable release? Also does cyanogenmod offer the software stabilization during video recording of the original ROM?
I just went ahead and purchased the Z1 compact today. Loving this phone already, but I was quite used to cynogenmod's features, like "Right top corner swipe brings the quick settings". Only disappointing were the speaker.
I got by default 4.4.2/.757 Build, so planning to root it right away and unlock the bootloader so I get the speaker's boosted up. Did anyone get the boost working on the .757 build?
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Are you using a snapshot or did I miss a stable release? Also does cyanogenmod offer the software stabilization during video recording of the original ROM?
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CyanogenMod doesn't do stable releases, 10.1 was the last, the closest you'll come these days is the M-snapshots. I am running nightlies though. Don't know about the stabilisation.
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CyanogenMod doesn't do stable releases, 10.1 was the last, the closest you'll come these days is the M-snapshots. I am running nightlies though.
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OK, I didn't know there were no stable releases anymore. Is everything working?
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Don't know about the stabilisation.
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Could you make a video on the phone and check if the image is shaking or not. You can see the difference in these videos:
with software stabilization on Xperia Z1 compact
without stabilization filmed on a Nexus 5.
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OK, I didn't know there were no stable releases anymore. Is everything working?
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Issues with WiFi-tethering, camera starts pretty slow, besides those I have no complaints.
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I got by default 4.4.2/.757 Build, so planning to root it right away and unlock the bootloader so I get the speaker's boosted up. Did anyone get the boost working on the .757 build?
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Yeah, I rooted and unlocked the bootloader and flashed the volume boost zip for the compact located on the list here. It really gives the sound a good boost so it's well recommended.
Does anyone experience a glitch when you're listening to the music and you make a call, and when it resumes the, Sound seems to be in "Mono" stream?
I tried poweramp and Walkman app, and face this issue and it is quite disturbing having the music switch to mono output.
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
Move this **** to [email protected] section
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i'm getting average 3½ days on Z1C.
Already have super stable Rom and kernel and Soundmod.
Now S5 mini has no rom nor kernel so you have to wait for it.
As my previous phone was Galaxy S4 i can say the TouchWiz is complete trash and the Knox is another huge PITA for developers and for flashers.
There is even more bloat on S5 omg.
The only reason i accidentally bought Galaxy S4 was because it provided so many features which seemed like a good deal but they all were useless and drained battery.
The Z1 compact is the first phone after nokia 3310 i am totally satisfied with.
For exclusivity and quality go for Z1c OR Z3 Compact.
Z1 compact, much better.....
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Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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The S5 Mini rocks an Exynos 3, for which open source is practically non-existant. If you're gonna be rocking custom ROMs, definitely get a Z1 Compact.
Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
rob rich said:
Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Agree totally!
Z1 compact
My answer wil be very clear: Z1 compact.
as you said, better specs, better Price, what do you want more?
Also it's almost identical to Sony's Z1, so, many options for modding and cross device roms that will work flawlessly.
And with the Z3 goodies coming, I presume very soon we will be having 4k and 120fps shooting as well as AR effects etcétera.
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And with the Z3 goodies coming, I presume very soon we will be having 4k and 120fps shooting as well as AR effects etcétera.
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We have 4K and 120fps and AR mod for a real long time .........
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Lowmick said:
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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S5 mini and Z1c is almost same price here in HK now because Z3c is going to out next week in HK. I'll say Z1c is a much better choice overall with much faster CPU/GPU, 512MB more memory, 200mah more battery, much more mods available from big brother Z1 or Z1c board, MHL supported, 4K recording with mod, water protection.
S5 Mini on the other hand got 0.2" larger screen, IR blaster and more light weight. So, it really depends do you need the 0.2" screen and IR to remote your TV.
The previous of Sony design on Arc and Xperia S is much better without doubt but I found the Sony' s OmniBalance design is quite good on Z1 Compact, OmniBalance is very ugly on big phone like Z1/Z2 I've to admit it but it looks okay on a compact phone.
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We have 4K and 120fps and AR mod for a real long time .........
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Yes, you are right but I have also read that with 4.4.4 the mod doesn't work as well as with 4.4.2 for reason of the old libs from the Z2 that this mod is using. They are now working very hard with the Z3 fw download to improve this.
And yes we have AR effects, but the Z3 has much more of them with more fun etcétera.
Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
cheetah2k said:
Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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Software issue and can be solved. Others have had the issue (even me when flashing other ROMs) and we're fixed through flashing the a new ROM through recovery or Sony's tool.
I'm sorry your wife's z1c is doing that but don't paint a picture that every z1c does this.
hol17 said:
Software issue and can be solved. Others have had the issue (even me when flashing other ROMs) and we're fixed through flashing the a new ROM through recovery or Sony's tool.
I'm sorry your wife's z1c is doing that but don't paint a picture that every z1c does this.
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Software issue that can be solved?? Why haven't sony solved it already???????????? LOL :laugh:
My wife has had 2 of these phones, the first the sound and vibration stopped working after a week and the camera did the same thing!!
Looking at the forums the camera issue is very common especially those on 4.4.4!!
Go for Z1 compact or if ur pocket allows go for z3 compacr.
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Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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S5 camera works but not S5 mini, their cameras are totally different. Z1c focus speed is slow, really no good for taking photo for kids. Not sure about Z3c at this moment. Indeed, I believe HTC M8 got the fastest focus speed among android, good for your wife.
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S5 camera works but not S5 mini, their cameras are totally different. Z1c focus speed is slow, really no good for taking photo for kids. Not sure about Z3c at this moment. Indeed, I believe HTC M8 got the fastest focus speed among android, good for your wife.
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The whole point of my wife wanting the Z1C is for a few reasons. Flagship specs, high pixel camera for the great photos Sony said it would take (I find the focus speed just fine - when it works), water resistant so it can handle the spills and thrills of being a parent with young kids, and being a compact similar size to iPhone 5S (we are an android family btw). For that its perfect - except for the god dam freezing!!
Regarding the HTC M8, sure great focus speed but seriously rubbish 4MP photos you cant even zoom into. I'm not really a HTC fan either after owning the M7 :good:
I had the freeze issue a number of time. But the phone just resolve itself, miss that moment, but kids being kids there are other moments. comparing results from the photos I got no qualms as it is much better then my previous phones. I bought this mainly for the battery and so far it does not dissapoints
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55272916&postcount=2604
If you guys got root, try flash this stuff in recovery. After that, my whole z1c including camera is faster. Remember to backup before flash.
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Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Agree with you!
Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
Go for the Z1C!
In my opinion the difference is minor, but the price is much higer.
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Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
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I think this is something you only know the answer for, here is a detailed video that explains the differences between the two devices :
Though, if I were you, I'd go for Z3 Compact as a device (even after looking to the price)
but, if I wan't to chose in terms of software, I think I'd go with Z1 Compact
cuz I believe not many users that already have Z1c (like me) would wonna switch to the almost the same Z3c!
which means no devs are gonna be there as well
So as I said, your personal needs control what decision you should make
Regards,
Omar.
Z1c. As previously stated not much difference (bigger display, faster CPU, 4k video) but much higher price.
Best regards,
Coempi
as z1c owner, i would pay the difference for z3c.
the display size and dual speakers win it for me as major improvements in my eyes.
huge downside z3c cant be rooted with locked bootloader, you must unlock BL to root :/
i would go for the z3 compact if i never bought my z1 compact because of the ps4 remote play and daulshock 4 compatibility
If money is not a problem, go for Z3c all the way.
But if you consider the extra money Z3c asks for, then by buying the Z1c you won't feel really bad, the differences are minor in my opinion. Of course a bigger screen in the same body and a bigger battery would be welcome, but I don't think they are important enough to justify the price difference.
Buy the Z3c . It's better than the Z1c, but that does not mean the z1c is bad.
I think the z3c is worth the cost of the upgrade, but as a z1c owner I will not upgrade unless sony changes their policy on unlocking wrt DRM keys, or someone finds an exploit. Root isn't optional for me, but I'm not willing to tank my camera performance to get it, so I'm sticking with my z1c until something comes along in this form factor that is better and also non-destructively root-able.
Z1 compact owner here:
If you already have a Z1c = don't get the Z3c
If you don't already have a Z1c = get the Z3c
Quite simple brah
there is 2 issues with the camera on z1 compact.
1) LED bled, and black marker made it ugly on my white phone.
2) My camera freeze once in a while. And recently, it freeze when i try to take consecutive shots. (First shot ok, 2nd shot freeze)
Get the z3. And z3 has double tap to wake. I doubt ps4 game would look nice on such small screen though.
Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
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Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
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Yes don't worry Sony has promised to bring official Lolipop to Z1 Compact alongside with the rest of Z family (in next the February or so)
also, Z1 Compact will get official Lolipop support from many AOSP-Based ROMs, as soon as CyanogenMod team do so
As I mentioned no worries about software for Z1C, it should get more custom support than Z3C ever will
Regards,
Omar.
Not a worthy phone to buy for Rs.15,000 more
Me too was confused between z1c and z3c
But after a lot of searching and review,i decided to go for z1c
I could go for z3c if sony priced it less.
The sales man tried to convinced me to buy z3c,then i convinced him
Go for the white version gud luck
The main problem now is z3c needs unlock BL to get root so you will loss warranty and some of Sony features. If you need root or want to backup your TA before unlock BL, Z1c is more recommended.
There are many good stuffs on z3c like better battery life(bcoz of s801), a bit bigger screen, dual front speaker and 4K recording w/ video stabilization(our 4K mod no stabilization), a bit better camera focus and more light weight.
But z1c is really good for its lower price and the looking is better because of metal bumper it looks like more a premium design and I think the LED notification is also better on z1c.
Hi I have a question... but Would you change the LG G3 for a Sony Z2 on the same conditions? I am thinking of it. My G3 have 3GB of ram 32GB of storage and its dual sim. wich have and takes better pictures, and wich one performs better on games?
If you want a cell phone on base of camera quality then go for Xperia Z2. It has more better camera than LG G3 but less storage then LG G3. (Z2=16gb and G3=32gb).
LG G3 and Xperia z2 have nearly same processor (LG G3 got a little more better than Z2). Both have same OS (Android Marshmallow after update).
But if you are thinking about gaming and graphics display then LG G3 is best option. Cause it has got QuadHD display..
You can have complete comparison of both LG G3 and Xperia Z2 at
gsmarena(dot)com
If i would be at your place then would go for Xperia Z2 because it is more expensive then LG G3.
Go for it
danieldp1990 said:
Hi I have a question... but Would you change the LG G3 for a Sony Z2 on the same conditions? I am thinking of it. My G3 have 3GB of ram 32GB of storage and its dual sim. wich have and takes better pictures, and wich one performs better on games?
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It feels premium instead of light plastic
Did the exact change few days ago
Its just great
Look at the pics
EDIT:: you also get good apps like garmin navigation for free
It is an xperia bundle
Look at sony site for all apps you get
And if you have an sony sixaxis playstation 3 or 4 controller like I do
Its in few steps conactable you just pair it no root needed
And great for gaming
Evan my antutu is better then my old G3
brljak83 said:
It feels premium instead of light plastic
Did the exact change few days ago
Its just great
Look at the pics
EDIT:: you also get good apps like garmin navigation for free
It is an xperia bundle
Look at sony site for all apps you get
And if you have an sony sixaxis playstation 3 or 4 controller like I do
Its in few steps conactable you just pair it no root needed
And great for gaming
Evan my antutu is better then my old G3
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How about camera quality, video, screen. and features?
Its much better cam and video
Muvh, much better
And has good stuff like garmin navigation full for free
dksoni411 said:
If you want a cell phone on base of camera quality then go for Xperia Z2. It has more better camera than LG G3 but less storage then LG G3. (Z2=16gb and G3=32gb).
LG G3 and Xperia z2 have nearly same processor (LG G3 got a little more better than Z2). Both have same OS (Android Marshmallow after update).
But if you are thinking about gaming and graphics display then LG G3 is best option. Cause it has got QuadHD display..
You can have complete comparison of both LG G3 and Xperia Z2 at
gsmarena(dot)com
If i would be at your place then would go for Xperia Z2 because it is more expensive then LG G3.
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Z2 has better camera? Have you got any proof for this statement? Because Sony flagship smarphones have totally average camera (except Z5, it has great camera).
Look at here: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3_vs_sony_xperia_z2-review-1100p8.php
And about display, QuadHD doesn't mean it's better, because it's actually not in this way (QHD consumes more battery), but in quality comparison, G3 has better display.
sheppii said:
Z2 has better camera? Have you got any proof for this statement? Because Sony flagship smarphones have totally average camera
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Totally agree with that statement. Sony might make good stand-alone cameras but their smartphone cameras are totally average. I would also like to mention the build quality of Sony, my Z3 started having issues after few months of purchase and even after few replacements and repairs the issues kept coming back. I finally gave up and switched to G3. Never been more happier, G3 surpasses Z3 in all aspects and yes, the camera is one of them.
sheppii said:
Z2 has better camera? Have you got any proof for this statement? Because Sony flagship smarphones have totally average camera (except Z5, it has great camera).
Look at here: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3_vs_sony_xperia_z2-review-1100p8.php
And about display, QuadHD doesn't mean it's better, because it's actually not in this way (QHD consumes more battery), but in quality comparison, G3 has better display.
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Look at this
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z2-6144.php
It says xperia z2 has got a camera upto 20mp which is greater than 13mp of lg g3. That's it the main difference..
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Totally agree with that statement. Sony might make good stand-alone cameras but their smartphone cameras are totally average. I would also like to mention the build quality of Sony, my Z3 started having issues after few months of purchase and even after few replacements and repairs the issues kept coming back. I finally gave up and switched to G3. Never been more happier, G3 surpasses Z3 in all aspects and yes, the camera is one of them.
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Yes you are totally right in this statement. But my friend had a xperia z2 phone and it camera was awesome. I liked that Camera result of his phone z2....
Perhaps that could be a variant difference.
Anyways thanks for helping him and , somehow, me
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
anjargun said:
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
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I couldn't get you link to work, shame. Yes, the camera did get a bad review, but given the technology packed into the phone, I think it should do better than it does. I did a side by side comparison to the Z3 compact and for quite a few of the pictures the Z3 won. I think it was a mistake to put such a wide angle lense on the phone. Yes, it was a good for vistas and views, but the sensor chip struggles with close up work. The camera was useless until Sony released a 'fix' for it. I don't understand how a phone go through the manufacturing process without anyone testing the lense/sensor combination. It's better than it was, now the fix is in place, but it's not the best camera Sony have made.
Manual mode every time, take the iso and shutter speed out of auto and get the shutter down as slow as possible. If you can find the time to put the phone on a tripod, the difference is amazing.
Didgesteve said:
I couldn't get you link to work, shame. Yes, the camera did get a bad review, but given the technology packed into the phone, I think it should do better than it does. I did a side by side comparison to the Z3 compact and for quite a few of the pictures the Z3 won. I think it was a mistake to put such a wide angle lense on the phone. Yes, it was a good for vistas and views, but the sensor chip struggles with close up work. The camera was useless until Sony released a 'fix' for it. I don't understand how a phone go through the manufacturing process without anyone testing the lense/sensor combination. It's better than it was, now the fix is in place, but it's not the best camera Sony have made.
Manual mode every time, take the iso and shutter speed out of auto and get the shutter down as slow as possible. If you can find the time to put the phone on a tripod, the difference is amazing.
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oi66 . tinypic.com/34g4tx3.jpg (don't forget the 0i66) just wait till it load
well i never know the close up problem tho, is it like can't shoot macro shot or something like that?
are u sure z3 won over the xz1? because i also do that first time trying to compare to the z1. but then i realize it was my mistake because the phone keep shooting in different mode, but if it the same mode xz1 won, everytime
anjargun said:
oi66 . tinypic.com/34g4tx3.jpg (don't forget the 0i66) just wait till it load
well i never know the close up problem tho, is it like can't shoot macro shot or something like that?
are u sure z3 won over the xz1? because i also do that first time trying to compare to the z1. but then i realize it was my mistake because the phone keep shooting in different mode, but if it the same mode xz1 won, everytime
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I also had a z1 and z3, and they were good (z1 with some Sony' camera mod was the best!). And yes, in night mode z3 it's better than our new xz1 (but it's at will be covered maybe with patches or mods, maybe in future, because our sensor can take picture with iso lower than it can use now in stock camera app)
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PeppeBove said:
I also had a z1 and z3, and they were good (z1 with some Sony' camera mod was the best!). And yes, in night mode z3 it's better than our new xz1
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I do not believe! there are examples? xz1 much better in poor lighting
anjargun said:
first time on xda, maybe i posted in the wrong section. i'm just a noob, my english isn't that good either.
just wanted to share my thought on the camera, overall i'm impressed despite the underwhelming review i come across the internet.
also to help people who still concern about the camera performance, the lowlight is even brighter than my perfectly healthy eye.
check this out oi66 . tinypic . com/34g4tx3.jpg (i put space because i can't post an outside link, 10 post rule)
man this phone got bad a camera review, i just wonder how good phone like samsung, iphone, google pixel are which always got high praise on their camera..
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Wow, SUPER impressed with your low light results while in manual mode. I tried recreating those results in low light conditions myself, but couldn't find the right settings to see that big of a difference. Would you mind sharing the settings you used to achieve that? Thanks!
I see on 4pda people are advising to use SnapCamera. I wonder what is the difference between stock, Snapcamera, and Gcam (if available)?