Hey everyone,
Since I recently went back to stock to be able to OTA to Nougat, I wonder if there's going to be another OTA from HTC anytime soon.
Seeing that the security patch on official is Feb 2017, I would presume we would get an update soon?
Before I switch back to custom rom I wanted to know this before I have to redo all things again to get the OTA when it comes out.
They pushed one a few days ago but it won't install it for some reason.
-marco- said:
They pushed one a few days ago but it won't install it for some reason.
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Yeah I see on their website that on the 3th of May this year they released version 4.30.617.12, but my phone is still on 4.28.401.3.
So is it just the US model that gets that version and EU get shafted?
sausje85 said:
Yeah I see on their website that on the 3th of May this year they released version 4.30.617.12, but my phone is still on 4.28.401.3.
So is it just the US model that gets that version and EU get shafted?
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Dont know. I'm in asia and it was at beginning of july.
sausje85 said:
Yeah I see on their website that on the 3th of May this year they released version 4.30.617.12, but my phone is still on 4.28.401.3.
So is it just the US model that gets that version and EU get shafted?
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The different SKUs often have different firmware versions like the two you mentioned. That's completeley normal for HTC. The differences between those two versions are so minimal they can almost get considered as non-existent.
However, I wouldn't put my hopes too high in regard to further updates. All variants that haven't reached a version somewhere around 4.30.x will probably still get updated. The rest probably won't receive any further updates since the M9's market release was more than two years ago. Until now all big OEMs haven't supported any of their devices for a longer time range than this one. Chances are high that the M9 gets considered as EOL by HTC.
Flippy498 said:
The different SKUs often have different firmware versions like the two you mentioned. That's completeley normal for HTC. The differences between those two versions are so minimal they can almost get considered as non-existent.
However, I wouldn't put my hopes too high in regard to further updates. All variants that haven't reached a version somewhere around 4.30.x will probably still get updated. The rest probably won't receive any further updates since the M9's market release was more than two years ago. Until now all big OEMs haven't supported any of their devices for a longer time range than this one. Chances are high that the M9 gets considered as EOL by HTC.
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Yeah it's not really about any big updates other than the security patches.
Honestly, I hope the EU (and other govs) force them to keep supporting top tier phones for at least 5 years. Seeing all these hacks these days, this should be a must.
I mean the M9 is still a very solid phone that is by far not due for an upgrade, but because it will fall back in security patches (if I don't custom rom it), I'm forced to spend another €700 just so I can stay up-to-date? That's just overkill and plain retarded greedy...
But oh well, back to custom rom seeing there won't be any big update anymore for which I need stock.
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Hi there, ive purchased recently a HTC ONE X and the version im receiving is Asian (EAN ...397). The store now doesnt sell anymore that model and sells the European one (EAN ...410). Should i return mine and buy it again so i get the european version? (i live in europe).
I ask this because even if its the same phone (i guess), looking at forums and stuff i noticed that Asian ones are still 1.28 while Europeans are 1.29. Plus european versions are getting OTAs faster.
Do you guys think its a worth factor? Maybe the next month the Asian version gets the OTA early than European? A.k.a. is random or asian versions will get OTAs later than Europeans until the end of times?
I dunno. Are you gonna piss your pants over a two week delay that:
a) makes battery life better
b) makes battery life worse
c) makes radio better
d) makes radio worse
e) fixes problem x
f) makes problem x worse
Or maybe you can wait a fortnight. Or not. Whatever.
usually updates are good efforts xD but the real question is if ALWAYS the asian phones will get updates lately or maybe the next one hits the asian phones first and the european versions later? or it wont happen never?
also, some opinions about if i should replace mine just to get an european version would be nice. for me, its just like 4-5 days of delay in getting phone.
You bought a phone. It works. Enjoy it.
BenPope said:
You bought a phone. It works. Enjoy it.
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yes but i dont want an outdated phone which still runs 1.28 while others use 1.29 with improvements. if i can return mine and get the updated one, would it worth... or not ...
felixjet said:
yes but i dont want an outdated phone which still runs 1.28 while others use 1.29 with improvements. if i can return mine and get the updated one, would it worth... or not ...
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At the end of the day if you really want to return it then do so. Because you hate the phone you have now (not European version). Do what makes you feel at ease. The worst thing that can happen is they refuse to exchange it unless you buy a 2nd unit and sell the one you have now.
I have seen articles where two people got the update. Some threads show people have it...My phone says i'm up to date. Can I get the official word?
These are reasons Apple is better than Android. They release an update and within a week 80+% of devices in the wild have taken the update. My two year contracts be up on Droid's before I get updated. Really sucks. Not sure why Google can't get the power over the carriers like Apple has.
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I have seen articles where two people got the update. Some threads show people have it...My phone says i'm up to date. Can I get the official word?
These are reasons Apple is better than Android. They release an update and within a week 80+% of devices in the wild have taken the update. My two year contracts be up on Droid's before I get updated. Really sucks. Not sure why Google can't get the power over the carriers like Apple has.
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Let's not start the Apple vs Android thing here but know that Verizon controls it, not Google (nor does Apple control Google..).
I duno if Verizon released the update officially but if they did, it should show on their website. Also, it's usually waves so one guy might get the update and you will the next day.
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Let's not start the Apple vs Android thing here but know that Verizon controls it, not Google (nor does Apple control Google..).
I duno if Verizon released the update officially but if they did, it should show on their website. Also, it's usually waves so one guy might get the update and you will the next day.
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I'm starting it just sucks is all. Not comparing devices. Makes no sense I'm asking for the latest OS on a device that will be replaced by a newer model in a couple months. You blame Verizon, so I ask how is it that Apple is able to get OS' pushed to their devices the day they release to the public, but Google has a year plus fight to get a release pushed down. Hell, they released 5.1 and I bet less than 50% of their devices in the wild have 5.0
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I'm starting it just sucks is all. Not comparing devices. Makes no sense I'm asking for the latest OS on a device that will be replaced by a newer model in a couple months. You blame Verizon, so I ask how is it that Apple is able to get OS' pushed to their devices the day they release to the public, but Google has a year plus fight to get a release pushed down. Hell, they released 5.1 and I bet less than 50% of their devices in the wild have 5.0
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Ok, you do realize that Android is on a crazy amount of different device from different company? The OS needs to be update/adapted to every single variant there is = Takes time! Apple has to deal with their products only, which is much easier. So yeah, therefore pushing updates faster across all Iphones.
Now I do agree with you that it sucks to wait for updates longer than others but you phone is working right, isn't it? And it won't become bad cause a new model was released. Afaik, that new model will be running the same version of android as your device when it gets updated (which should be quite soon if it's not up already).
If you really want instant updates, grab a Nexus, which is Google's line. You'd get the updates just as fast as Iphones get theirs. Oh and it never takes a year for Google to release updates? Unless it's on a very very old device.
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Ok, you do realize that Android is on a crazy amount of different device from different company? The OS needs to be update/adapted to every single variant there is = Takes time! Apple has to deal with their products only, which is much easier. So yeah, therefore pushing updates faster across all Iphones.
Now I do agree with you that it sucks to wait for updates longer than others but you phone is working right, isn't it? And it won't become bad cause a new model was released. Afaik, that new model will be running the same version of android as your device when it gets updated (which should be quite soon if it's not up already).
If you really want instant updates, grab a Nexus, which is Google's line. You'd get the updates just as fast as Iphones get theirs. Oh and it never takes a year for Google to release updates? Unless it's on a very very old device.
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Makes sense...I buy new phones as soon as they come out, so the G3s days are numbered, so is my N4.
Any one knows when will nougat arrive on VZW m9 every one is using nougat know except VZW m9 and its been a long time since it had arrived ??
I have the same question, the verizon m9 is the last smartphone that receive the nougat update??? My next phone will not a Verizon securely
Uk is the best
I'm also waiting for this update.
HTC and Verizon promised the update of Nougat for the first three months of the 2017, but even kept on waiting. Unlocked version and Sprint are updated
Any way to root except 25$ method cause i can't pay that amount in our country it is equal to 2 thousands and five hundred
harib12 said:
Any way to root except 25$ method cause i can't pay that amount in our country it is equal to 2 thousands and five hundred
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Seeing as the phone is 40K-50K Rupees I think it's a fair price. It's also a breeze to use.
But to answer your question I believe that the only other way out there is to use an X Clip (which is like 100 bucks).
What is an X clip 100 buks equal to how much pkr
Sorry, 100 bucks is slang for $100. In pkr it's 10475.
Seems odd the M9 (Verizon) hasn't received the 7.0 update yet. Any rumors out there on when we might get it?
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Seems odd the M9 (Verizon) hasn't received the 7.0 update yet. Any rumors out there on when we might get it?
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it will probably never come.
According to Mo Versi, via email, the M9 is beyond it's 2 year life and will not be updated. Doesn't make sense since the other carriers received the update but it's now August and Verizon has no update.
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According to Mo Versi, via email, the M9 is beyond it's 2 year life and will not be updated. Doesn't make sense since the other carriers received the update but it's now August and Verizon has no update.
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It wasn't past the 2 year mark last year, when Nougat was released.
Latest I have from Mo is that the the Verizon Nougat OS is in the lab this week. So they changed their mind on pushing this update and hopefully it will come in a couple weeks.
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Latest I have from Mo is that the the Verizon Nougat OS is in the lab this week. So they changed their mind on pushing this update and hopefully it will come in a couple weeks.
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Source?
Aganar said:
Source?
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I stated Mo, as in Mo Versi from two posts up. I've been communicating with him via email.
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I stated Mo, as in Mo Versi from two posts up. I've been communicating with him via email.
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I understand. I thought it was either a tweet that you could link to, or you could provide a redacted screenshot.
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I understand. I thought it was either a tweet that you could link to, or you could provide a redacted screenshot.
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Here is the body of the email I received 8/23/17. So I feel confident that he's being straight forward. I just hope Verizon pushes the update after they do the work.
Hi xxxxxxx,
Thanks for your email. We will provide the N OS update for M9 on Verizon. It’s planned to go to the lab soon (had an issue we had to resolve). Looking to enter lab next week, so as soon as I am confident we will get technical approval, I will let you know when we will start pushing the update to our customers. Thank you for your patience on this.
Mo
Any update since then? Last word was two weeks ago.
I gave up hope. there is no update...
I recently got the a520f after a few years with the iPhone. I was happy enough but then released there is 2 roms, 1 in alpha and another which is abandoned then noticed the updates from Samsung are sparse at best.
I'm unlocked in UK and stuck on 6.0.1, they "used" to say unlocked got updates first, noticed the way I said "used to" because carriers seem to be releasing 7.0 before unlocked, and while on the point 7.0 at this stage when Oreo will soon be released, even bringing the phone out with 7.0 would have been slow when 7.1 was available.
I am thinking I have made the wrong decision with the a520, Samsung are slow with updates anyway yes but the a520 seems to be at the bottom of Samsungs list of priorities. Last years a510 even has 7 for a while now.
hi !
Yes ,all people here want updates with another android version but i think that the most important thing is to enjoy with this phone :
it's a device with MM6 have enought power for to play game , it have the best super amoled screen ,it have a fabulous battery life ! , a fingerprints and "near" 20 differents sensors ,he have a good modem and hardware for 4G , this MM + sansung adds have all useful functions and parameters ....and the middle economic mode is impressive for the battery life...
The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
Nah, Samsung kinda sucks. I mean they couldnt make a proper working fingerprint sensor on stock MM, had to install nougat for the bloody thing to work.
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The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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How does Apple cope then?
That's Samsung decision to release update or not, as user we can wait for it or complaints to Samsung
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It has nothing to do with "the server not able to cope" or anything. There are a few reasons building up to the devices being in literally the bottom of the pile as you put it:
1) Samsung has heavily skinned Android with a lot of added features, which all take a while to port to a new verison.
2) Costs of development, Q/A testing and everything else that needs to be done before the update gets released public (not doing the update obviously means a lot of saved money)
3) Most people don't care about updates or are even annoyed by them and think they are something evil. That's excluding heavy updates to a new version which slow down the phone by a large margin with features you could have lived without (Apple are doing this), those updates really are evil. Due to the lack of updates though, this rarely happens on Android in all fairness.
4) It's a mid range price device
5) Samsung's policy of not wanting to update the phones too much anyway so the user buys a new one
The phone is probably going to be updated to 7.0 within the next month or two. I doubt extremely it will get updated to 8.0.
This is unacceptable for a phone that has come out for 2017, to not got an update of an OS to a version that is released in 2017 just a little over an year later. We should definetly not put up with it and complain to Samsung however, not on XDA.
We should make sure OEM's take note that we want our phones updated to new Android versions fast for at least a few years, just like iOS devices. And on top of complaining, we should vote with our wallets also. That gets the chain moving.
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The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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That is tackled in another way. Your phone randomly receive updates in batch.
Yes you can get an update if you manually go into settings and download updates.
But again it is automatically provided in random batches.
Samsung is late at updates because they have a large number of models.
Not like Iphone that only support 3 models of past I think.
Samsung also needs to provide stable updates which take a lot of testing.
Again it depends on your country and provider when the start rolling updates.
By the way A5 got certified for oreo.
https://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?keywords=A520f
It has Oreo in Russia now
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/sm-a520f-oreo-russia-t3779287
Time to update your phones to get all of the cumulative updates.
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Time to update your phones to get all of the cumulative updates.
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Yep I'm currently doing that right now, glad the update has all the updates combined into one!
Yeah it was there when I got out the shower this morning as I hadn't even done my morning manual scan for updates yet.
Glad Three finally delivered for you all and in full which is a shock! Thought it would always be behind.
Not bad. 1 week after the non-carrier version. Three must have rejected the mr2 update since it had so many bugs.
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Not bad. 1 week after thennon carrier version. Three must have rejected the mr2 update since it had so many bugs.
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I think you are right
I and a few years others were across on the official Razer forum causing some friction..... The general idea was to create more negative hype quicker than what they could create positive... I think they and three got the point.
Let's hope they keep up now, with the kitguru article they will have some work!
Yeah I saw that KitGuru article come up but seems it got published after the update went live so just bad timing on that.
I didn't want to give razer negatively my point to them was you have a lot of loyal fans of the brand and to communicate what's going on with public updates rather than keep us in the dark. Sometimes they need listen to their customers and respond rather than looking to point the blame.
Got to hear the updates are finally coming through...
Really glad to hear that you 3 UK users are finally getting your updates, as I think it was terrible that you have such a fantastic phone and for no updates to be pushed to the phone (and razer have pushed out about 2-3 updates on my unlocked variant). The update should also contain the latest security patch (I think it's January)...
Hopefully they can (as they have suggested) sync the unlocked and 3 UK variants future updates, simultaneously
I left 3 a few years ago since the price hikes, Are they still bundling bloatware with the OS? Very interested in this if this years devices don't appeal