Screen on time - Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra Real Life Review

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Best SOT ever
I used the phone for 1 day and 12 hours
Since unpluged it was full brightness
Not even I know how i got so much SOT
Was not gaming
WiFi and Data always on
Location on
And was last two days about all the time browsing
Look at the pictures
EDIT
This pictures are not the max sot I have got..it gets a bit more then this..
But what I need to add now is...I use it allways at full brightness with
the display settings .. I use the smart brightness and turn also all the other
''good stuff'' settings on...
And that way I have this max of 9 hours.. so I do not go easy on it to save battery or something
I go full power..with all those ''smart'' settings turned on..
And if not used to much you can go easy two days...easy

brljak83 said:
I used the phone for 1 day and 12 hours
Since unpluged it was full brightness
Not even I know how i got so much SOT
Was not gaming
WiFi and Data always on
Location on
And was last two days about all the time browsing
Look at the pictures
EDIT
This pictures are not the max sot I have got..it gets a bit more then this..
But what I need to add now is...I use it allways at full brightness with
the display settings .. I use the smart brightness and turn also all the other
''good stuff'' settings on...
And that way I have this max of 9 hours.. so I do not go easy on it to save battery or something
I go full power..with all those ''smart'' settings turned on..
And if not used to much you can go easy two days...easy
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I think personally the XA1 Ultra has a super efficient battery which many will think 2700mAh is not enough but with it having a 6" screen many would think it wouldn't last but it has proven otherwise. Such a beautiful phone, looks and feels like a high end device and many work colleagues love the look and size of the device.
I also suggest buying the UCH-12 quick charger (just under 2 hours from 0-100) as it knocks off just over an hour compared to the normal charger supplied which is the UCH-20 (3 hours from 0-100%). Also, don't forget to grab the Battery Care APK from APKMirror too.
Overall, I love this device and definitely look forward to Android Oreo running on this alongside my trusty Xperia X!

Hii @LevsOG
First of all thanks for the advice for the charger
I just orderd one today for my xa1 ultra
Will test it and report back
One thing I have noticed today
Sony recommends for our model to use the UCH12W version not the UCH12 version
Then I have found out from users that there is no big deal difference between that two chargers
Only the cable would be different
If you go online and look for the price you will see
That the 12W costs 3 times more then the 12 version charger
And if you type just the name of the UCH12 charger
On the sony official site it is stated that the cheaper model does support our model.. But you need the right cable for it or the one wich you get out of the box
So, I also looked at the Spec
And there is no difference between the UHC12 and UCH12W
Only the price is much much more to pay.. Like 60 dollars and 20 dollars
And Sony stated that both supports xa1 ultra
The 60 dollars one by default
And the 20 dollars one with the right cable
Only big difference is.. One is the latest the other older model
So I got me the 20 dollars one
Will report back
And the last thing
Thanks for all the pictures you have showed in the attachment
EDIT 01:
This are the chargers..
Look for yourself..they are the same spec..
And one is like 20 dollars the other is like 60 dollars..
This one is the older model and look that Sony says it is recommended
https://support.sonymobile.com/au/quickchargeruch12/faq/
This one here is the new one a much more expensive..
https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12w/specifications/
Just google a bit they are the same..
Happy charging

Please give some pictures
LevsOG said:
I think personally the XA1 Ultra has a super efficient battery which many will think 2700mAh is not enough but with it having a 6" screen many would think it wouldn't last but it has proven otherwise. Such a beautiful phone, looks and feels like a high end device and many work colleagues love the look and size of the device.
I also suggest buying the UCH-12 quick charger (just under 2 hours from 0-100) as it knocks off just over an hour compared to the normal charger supplied which is the UCH-20 (3 hours from 0-100%). Also, don't forget to grab the Battery Care APK from APKMirror too.
Overall, I love this device and definitely look forward to Android Oreo running on this alongside my trusty Xperia X!
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Hii
Just recived yesterday my uch-12 quick charger and it is taking the
same time to charge as with uch-20 the stock charger
Can you please provide some model name of the usb cable??
Or even screen shot where it is showed that it is fastcharging
Couse I dont know why it is not working not just in my case
If you google a lot of people got the same problem
I use the USB-20 cable...other cable not from sony and the one
wich came with the device
Nothing
Sill charging as the stock chargers
Please help
Do you have custom rom or?

My screen-on time on a weekend, adaptive brightness at 50%, gps, all syncs on. Mainly wireless browsing.

brljak83 said:
Hii
Just recived yesterday my uch-12 quick charger and it is taking the
same time to charge as with uch-20 the stock charger
Can you please provide some model name of the usb cable??
Or even screen shot where it is showed that it is fastcharging
Couse I dont know why it is not working not just in my case
If you google a lot of people got the same problem
I use the USB-20 cable...other cable not from sony and the one
wich came with the device
Nothing
Sill charging as the stock chargers
Please help
Do you have custom rom or?
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Hi there, sorry to hear you're experiencing problems with your charger!
The stock one originally supplied takes upto 3 hours from 0-100% whereas the quick charger takes just under 2 hours from 0-100% as I've plugged in both and seen the difference myself.
I have been using the UCB-20 cable that was originally supplied in the box, and the one received with the quick charger is the same model but produced on a different week compared to the other one, there is no difference between each cable although on the inside of the Type C connector it looks slightly different but either cable I've used are absolutely fine.
Also I'm on the latest UK firmware 42.0.A.4.133, no root or custom ROM's for me as of yet...
Sent from my Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra using XDA Labs

LevsOG said:
Hi there, sorry to hear you're experiencing problems with your charger!
The stock one originally supplied takes upto 3 hours from 0-100% whereas the quick charger takes just under 2 hours from 0-100% as I've plugged in both and seen the difference myself.
I have been using the UCB-20 cable that was originally supplied in the box, and the one received with the quick charger is the same model but produced on a different week compared to the other one, there is no difference between each cable although on the inside of the Type C connector it looks slightly different but either cable I've used are absolutely fine.
Also I'm on the latest UK firmware 42.0.A.4.133, no root or custom ROM's for me as of yet...
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Hi there,
As you can guess I'm here because I need some help and some information. I hardly just arrived to this world of rooting. I would like to get an AOSP ROM for my Sony Xperia xa1 ultra devide (G3221) but after several days searching I concluded that find it is harder than I thought
Can someone help me, please?
A simple link could save my life
Thank you

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Htc One X -battery life

hello everyone, i am new to this community, sorry for my bad english, i would need some help. i have a htc one x for several weeks now, and i have a hudge problem with the battery life on this device, im a really hudge fan of htc, but im dissapointed, so for example, i have 9/10 lines of battery life in my settings menu, i plug it in , and start playing dead space, after 40 mins of playing the battery actually dropped by 2 lines , and i had left 7/10 lines of battery. how is that even possible??! all the phones i had, laptops, etc that require a battery worked in the folowing order: if you plug it in and took the battery out, it still worked, so if you had the battery in, it both keept alive the phone/laptop/every device on the world, while charging the battery, so if you use it, it wont loose power, but gained it. i wached a lot of videos and posts of people explaning hot to get more guice out of htx one x , and some wore like, well , dont use it too much, or do ont turn on your phone to see the clock cause it will save some battery..... ?!?! well i dodn't pay a ton of money to have a phone in my pocket and not be able to see what the time is, or play something/ lisen to music , without actually noticing that in 2-3 hours i wont be able to make a call, yes its a strong phone, and verry good one, by design, by hardware, and software, but the sad thing is the battery, does anyone have a mirracoulous tip for me? and perhaps others as well... (oh and i charged it as ppl from htc told me, first three times with the battery empty for 8 hrs..)
the battery will run out whilst charging, under heavy usage, because the phone is using more power than the charger can provide.
laptop chargers can handle this, simply because the charger provides more power to it. (and the fact laptop batteries tend to be several times the size of the hox)
you should only find that whilst using a battery/cpu intensive task such as navigation (it uses GPS, data sometimes, and the screen is on) that the charger won't be enough, but for most other things, like general web browsing etc, the charger will do it quickly enough
the screen is what takes basically all of the battery, so you can reduce that by making the screen brightness a bit less bright..
the battery life when the screen is off is incredible. WAY better than any other phone i've had. when the screen is off, the phone uses about 1% battery every 2 hours or so. and that was with wifi etc connected and autosync still switched on.
whether the phone will last you all day or not, depends on your usage. if it doesn't, then either make the brightness even lower, or you can purchase a portable charger. or a battery case.
there's no point saying well other phones have better battery life like an iphone. lets be realistic, the iphone DOES NOT have better battery life. it may have had decent standby battery life, but so does tegra 3, probably better than iphone now. when you actually use an iphone, or any other smartphone for that fact, the battery disappears just as quickly as this one does.
Tegra 3 standby is awesome. Just tried an experiment. Please note that this is with 3g or WiFi on all this time and with auto sync.
Again this is just to demonstrate standby time.
For the op, are you sure you don't have a rogue app? Also are you using an HTC charger?
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
skywalker1970 said:
Tegra 3 standby is awesome. Just tried an experiment. Please note that this is with 3g or WiFi on all this time and with auto sync.
Again this is just to demonstrate standby time.
For the op, are you sure you don't have a rogue app? Also are you using an HTC charger?
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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i know stand by is awseome, and i am using the original out of the box charger and cable, but i might go ahead since i know a thing or two about electronics and modify the charger at 2 amps vs 1 amp currently.. this will give me faster charging, but im still researching, cuz i have second toughts
p.s. do you have a costum rom? it doesent look like a prtscreen from htc one x
nutzaalex said:
i know stand by is awseome, and i am using the original out of the box charger and cable, but i might go ahead since i know a thing or two about electronics and modify the charger at 2 amps vs 1 amp currently.. this will give me faster charging, but im still researching, cuz i have second toughts
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Unlikely. Unless the phone knows it can draw 2 amps, it has to assume a 1A capable charger (designated by connecting the data pins together).
BenPope said:
Unlikely. Unless the phone knows it can draw 2 amps, it has to assume a 1A capable charger (designated by connecting the data pins together).
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dude calm down ) lol im a student at mechatronics and robotics, i make robots, and work with voltages and intensity, yeah, normally i don't tweak this kind of things, but a battery does not cach on fire or explode, ony batteries from cars and up, not small ones the worst that could happend is it will heat up, and if let alone, will pour battery acid, wich is not dangerous like car acid , cuz is in a verry small amount and it just needs not to be handled by unprotected hand.
p.s. since im new, cant post alot.....
One X can have impressive battery usage. Here is my with 11 hours screen on time!!! Not many devices with battery this small can manage this.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
bubigrega said:
One X can have impressive battery usage. Here is my with 11 hours screen on time!!! Not many devices with battery this small can manage this.
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ok, not doubting you, i know it can do this, but let me ask you and be honest, how much did you use the phone, in this 11 h, what did you do?
nutzaalex said:
ok, not doughting you, i know it ca do this, but let me ask you and be honest, how much did you use the phone, in this 11 howrs, what did you do?
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I used it all 11 hours. Mostly reading second book of Game of Thrones in Kindle app. Checked some net sites, xda forum app, some blogs. Few calls and texts. All the time on wifi. Was sick in bed. Auto brightness, but as my eyes didn't liked strong sun is can say that it was quite dim inside.
But it probably depends on usage. Yesterday I was reading on the beach and I had 4 hours screen on time. Probably brightness all the way up as it was quite hot sunny day.
On normal day I get 4-5 hours screen on time.
Full stock One X.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
nutzaalex said:
batteries nowadays can resist pretty much, and unlike a laptop battery that has a chip in it and it records every charge, and then after x charges it suddeny stops working correctely this is cuz of the company chip they insertet to make is useless after x charges, a phone battery is just a normal one, this is tested, i opened a laptop battery and took the chip out, and via com port on pc, i was able to retrive the data storred by the company that produced it, but was not able to reset it, (comsporacy) lol . so i will buy a htc battery, not necesarry one x's and i will test it my charging it a couple o times bowth with the amp maxed, from 1 to 2 (1,1..1,2 etc) and voltage from 5 to 10 V, maby ill get a result, that is a little better than the technique i saw a couple pages away about charging your phone, then powerring it off, charging it again, then pwr on charging it again etc, forgot the method name, but in my opinion bubjecting a rechargable battery to so manny fluctuations of current in so little time does not sound good, my idea of amping the charger or the voltage by just a little sounds a little better in my opinion
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You scare the **** out of me. Please don't do this indoors or near any other living creature. You know nothing about charging batteries and are going set your lithium ion battery on fire.
Go check out http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries before you hurt yourself.
nutzaalex said:
dude calm down ) lol im a student at mechatronics and robotics, i make robots, and work with voltages and intensity, yeah, normally i don't tweak this kind of things, but a battery does not cach on fire or explode, ony batteries from cars and up, not small ones the worst that could happend is it will heat up, and if let alone, will pour battery acid, wich is not dangerous like car acid , cuz is in a verry small amount and it just needs not to be handled by unprotected hand.
p.s. since im new, cant post alot.....
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you have a lot to learn then.. Batteries can explode, and they do: here's a video of some guys iphone setting on fire in his back pocket, turned out to be the battery that caused it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIRXDeEzlcw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That isn't my pure reasoning behind my thoughts anyways, whatever experiments you do with higher amp chargers won't do anything, because the phone won't accept more charge than the circuitry allows. Which happens to be a safe amount for the battery. This is so the battery doesn't get damaged, and in some circumstances, set on fire or explode.
If you take the battery out and start prodding things at it and take it over its limits, be prepared for fire or explosion. Like Ben said, put yourself and only yourself at risk if you choose to do it.. And be wise and have a fire extinguisher ready.
BenPope said:
You scare the **** out of me. Please don't do this indoors or near any other living creature. You know nothing about charging batteries and are going set your lithium ion battery on fire.
Go check out http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries before you hurt yourself.
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I'm with you Ben....
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Battery life on ViperX 2.6.0
nutzaalex said:
hello everyone, i am new to this community, sorry for my bad english, i would need some help. i have a htc one x for several weeks now, and i have a hudge problem with the battery life on this device, im a really hudge fan of htc, but im dissapointed, so for example, i have 9/10 lines of battery life in my settings menu, i plug it in , and start playing dead space, after 40 mins of playing the battery actually dropped by 2 lines , and i had left 7/10 lines of battery. how is that even possible??! all the phones i had, laptops, etc that require a battery worked in the folowing order: if you plug it in and took the battery out, it still worked, so if you had the battery in, it both keept alive the phone/laptop/every device on the world, while charging the battery, so if you use it, it wont loose power, but gained it. i wached a lot of videos and posts of people explaning hot to get more guice out of htx one x , and some wore like, well , dont use it too much, or do ont turn on your phone to see the clock cause it will save some battery..... ?!?! well i dodn't pay a ton of money to have a phone in my pocket and not be able to see what the time is, or play something/ lisen to music , without actually noticing that in 2-3 hours i wont be able to make a call, yes its a strong phone, and verry good one, by design, by hardware, and software, but the sad thing is the battery, does anyone have a mirracoulous tip for me? and perhaps others as well... (oh and i charged it as ppl from htc told me, first three times with the battery empty for 8 hrs..)
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I've been having the same issue as well. The stock ROM on HTC one X drains the battery rapidly. For me, In normal day which includes listening to music, playing games, browsing and making calls, my battery would last maximum up to 20 hours; meaning that every night when I go to bed I had to charge it for the next day.
This problem was battling me a lot. I learned that the stock ROM is taking advantage of all (4) CPU's and memory even while in idle. The whole battery consumption relies on the CPU usage and Memory management.
I moved to a custom ROM called ViperX 2.6.0. I'm very satisfied with the result. It seams that they've managed the CPU and memory in a very good and neat way. The ROM has a lot of tweaks.By default, when installing the fresh ROM and wiping the battery stat, the battery would last one and half a day. By doing a number of simple tweaks such as disabling the animations on transitions, disable fast dormancy and disable smart sync you can have the battery up to two days.
Check the attachment, it's a screen shot of my battery usage.
Hope this helps.
bubigrega said:
One X can have impressive battery usage. Here is my with 11 hours screen on time!!! Not many devices with battery this small can manage this.
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How the hell are you getting this much screen time ?!
I dim the screen to the lowest brightness and disable
sync and sometimes in flight mode, and I can hardly get
3h of screen time! I mostly read on it, so it shouldn't
be battery intensive.
oh, and If I use it outside it lasts even less 2-2.5h.
What's your secret?
Oh and I use the latest CM10, and downclock my
cpu to 800-1000mhz
Doorman404 said:
How the hell are you getting this much screen time ?!
I dim the screen to the lowest brightness and disable
sync and sometimes in flight mode, and I can hardly get
3h of screen time! I mostly read on it, so it shouldn't
be battery intensive.
oh, and If I use it outside it lasts even less 2-2.5h.
What's your secret?
Oh and I use the latest CM10, and downclock my
cpu to 800-1000mhz
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Then your phone is knackered.
I can get 4+hrs screen on time with auto brightness, auto sync, stock cpu levels with wifi on.
That's no secret, that's just what it does.
As for 'just reading' - you can easily get over 13hrs screen on time with lowest brightness & flight mode - I've tested it myself on the Kindle app.
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Doorman404 said:
How the hell are you getting this much screen time ?!
I dim the screen to the lowest brightness and disable
sync and sometimes in flight mode, and I can hardly get
3h of screen time! I mostly read on it, so it shouldn't
be battery intensive.
oh, and If I use it outside it lasts even less 2-2.5h.
What's your secret?
Oh and I use the latest CM10, and downclock my
cpu to 800-1000mhz
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AOSP roms get much less battery life than Sense roms, 3hrs screen on time is about average.
I'm currently running CM10 with Neo kernel 7.2 @ 1.3GHz and getting almost 4hrs screen on time. With Faux kernel it was usually around 3hrs.
Chrisjcks, what do u mean by "your phone is knackered"?!
Its a new phone! I just got it 2 weeks ago.
Michealtbh, it may be somthing with the APOP rom, but I really
hate using sense ... I want to try this Neo Karnel first,
Can I just flash it on my cm10? (without wipe)
Where can I get it?
How do I know which kernel is im my current rom?
Doorman404 said:
Chrisjcks, what do u mean by "your phone is knackered"?!
Its a new phone! I just got it 2 weeks ago.
Michealtbh, it may be somthing with the APOP rom, but I really
hate using sense ... I want to try this Neo Karnel first,
Can I just flash it on my cm10? (without wipe)
Where can I get it?
How do I know which kernel is im my current rom?
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Your phone is fine.
You can find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873615
You have to flash the boot.img through fastboot then the modules in recovery. You're probably using CM10 kernel atm
Doorman404 said:
Chrisjcks, what do u mean by "your phone is knackered"?!
Its a new phone! I just got it 2 weeks ago.
Michealtbh, it may be somthing with the APOP rom, but I really
hate using sense ... I want to try this Neo Karnel first,
Can I just flash it on my cm10? (without wipe)
Where can I get it?
How do I know which kernel is im my current rom?
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Ok, but don't moan of battery if you are running a beta (alpha) custom rom.
The HTC ONE X battery is fine, especially after the sense 4.1/4.0.4 upgrade from 2.17
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Michealtbh, Thanks!
I'll try that soon. (it's stable, right?)
I'm now testing the new Nightly.. it's real good and battery life,
seems promising, looks like I'll get 3.5-4h of screen time there
(No sync with low brightness though)
chrisjcks, I'm not using alpha roms, just the stable ones.
and this DOES feel very bad battery life to me, I come to the hox
from Motorola milestone, and there I could easily get 7-8 hours
of screen time with wifi. (and it has smaller battery and 40% overclocked!!)
How much do you get on the new stock?
When I was on stock i remember it ran out after half a day,
only using it for music and taking some videos.
Battery life varies a lot. On stock in London I get a full day screen time of around 2-3 hours with 3G on all the time. Which for me is fine.
Last weekend I was in Portsmouth and the signal was very patchy and my phone died within 10 hours. Hardly any screen on time.
So it does really depend and will vary for user to user depending on your signal and how the phone is set up.
Mine is usually on auto brightness, and auto syncing on.
Today I've been at home as I've got a damn cold but my screen on time is over 4 hours in good signal and wifi. Same setup. So you can gather from this that signal, data used, etc can affect battery life in many ways.
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[Q] Somebody has first-day tips/tricks? First Battery charge?

Hi, I come from the Xperia Play section, which is awesome and supporting, so I hope this one will be too
I got this phone today and I was wondering how to make the best of it (I know BL unlock and root is the xda way, but I'm not in a rush for doing it yet cause I want to experience stock FW and see if Sony did a good work on it).
The thing that concerns me the most is the first battery charge. I chose this phone for the size and battery duration but I'm afraid to screw it by charging it wrong the first time. Also, is it better to charge it when the phone is off or on? is it ok (or not damaging) to charge it during all night?
Hope you answer quickly before stock battery charge runs out. I'll do my best to help this new community
Our Phone has a lion battery so you dont need to discharge to 0%. You can just charge from 10%to 100% and will be great. There is no need to calibrate battery or something. Just charge like everyday. I charge my Phone during day because i dont want to charge whole night
@mosespl Thanks for your reply. So I' leave it to discharge until its 10% and then charge during 2 hours until it's 100%. How much batttery time do you get with a normal (medium) usage?
You must remember than li-on battery doesnt like to be discharged. So keep Phone alive and charge to 100% and unplug. I use magnetic cable with original adapter
wow... aged phone xperia play, the same age with my old SE Arc.
This board isn't many guys because some guys went to z1 board because we share pretty much the same stock roms and same problem and same mods with our big brother z1.
2 days in my case is normal of moderate using
TheEndHK said:
wow... aged phone xperia play, the same age with my old SE Arc.
This board isn't many guys because some guys went to z1 board because we share pretty much the same stock roms and same problem and same mods with our big brother z1.
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Just the same problem we have on Xperia play and neo L, the only SE devices on the zeus board while the other 2011 devices are on mogami board. Our kernel developers soon moved to newer devices so we never had a fully functional 3.4 kernel, and no kitkat. The issue is so bad that we are just getting a WIP version of CM11 with wifi and camera broken.... The mogami devices got stable CM11 in February or March...
Neo L and Play roms and mods are usable on both devices ( not kernels) so its useful to browse both forums. I guess I'll have to do the same with z1 and z1c forums. Thanks for the tip
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julian280 said:
Just the same problem we have on Xperia play and neo L, the only SE devices on the zeus board while the other 2011 devices are on mogami board. Our kernel developers soon moved to newer devices so we never had a fully functional 3.4 kernel, and no kitkat. The issue is so bad that we are just getting a WIP version of CM11 with wifi and camera broken.... The mogami devices got stable CM11 in February or March...
Neo L and Play roms and mods are usable on both devices ( not kernels) so its useful to browse both forums. I guess I'll have to do the same with z1 and z1c forums. Thanks for the tip
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This problem is much better since the hardware is much more similar on z1 and z1c. We can flash z1's kernels and roms with just little changes. Camera is same so we can flash the z1's 4k and timeshift mod.
Just to stress that again: Li-Ion batteries don't like low as well as permanently high states of charge and also not high temperatures. It's best to keep them between 30% and 90%, if you really want to make them last long just charge whenever a charger is at hand, but stop at 90%. The LED turns green at 90% anyway and charging time increases because the phone basically switches to trickle charging.
Iruwen said:
Just to stress that again: Li-Ion batteries don't like low as well as permanently high states of charge and also not high temperatures. It's best to keep them between 30% and 90%, if you really want to make them last long just charge whenever a charger is at hand, but stop at 90%. The LED turns green at 90% anyway and charging time increases because the phone basically switches to trickle charging.
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This is not real needed again because modern Li-ion battery already got a safe margin like 10% at upper and lower limit in the circuit and battery capacity. You never actually 100% full charge or 0% used up whole battery though the phone display 100% and 0%. However, some cheap China rubbish battery need be careful as they don't have the extra capacity space.
Afaik they specifically don't do that because a) it would make their battery life worse in comparison at the same capacity and b) that would mean trickle charging starts at 80-85% which would be unnecessary, they could just charge at full speed.
TheEndHK said:
This problem is much better since the hardware is much more similar on z1 and z1c. We can flash z1's kernels and roms with just little changes. Camera is same so we can flash the z1's 4k and timeshift mod.
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Wow I hope there will always people who can compile z1 kernels for our z1c and maybe this phone will be compatible with future android versions. SE 2011 devices can use kitkat but have not enough cache space for ART, so they have to use regular dalvik... I hope this phone will last in my pocket at least 2 years
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Wow I hope there will always people who can compile z1 kernels for our z1c and maybe this phone will be compatible with future android versions. SE 2011 devices can use kitkat but have not enough cache space for ART, so they have to use regular dalvik... I hope this phone will last in my pocket at least 2 years
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The stock kernel and rom from Sony on z1 and z1c is exactly same, you should realize they are almost identical. z1c just got a smaller screen and smaller battery, all other things is same.
Customer kernel on the other hand will need little changes to make it real works on z1c but not that real hard.
Smaller screen = different screen and especially digitizer, doesn't that mean a different driver?
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Smaller screen = different screen and especially digitizer, doesn't that mean a different driver?
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Not sure but I flashed the Z1 RomAur V9.1 rom got no problem at all on touch screen. And I see folks just do little changes on Z1 DooMKernel(both 4.4.2 and 4.4.4) then it works on Z1c.
I think as long as you don't try to enable the Pen Mode, then it should be no problem.
I'm also using 9.1, it doesn't include a kernel.

One plus 3 night charge

Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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If you don't need a fully charged phone in the morning I would recommend not to do so. Try to keep the phone between 30 and 80% and only charge it to full like 2 times a month. What I read that's the best thing for all devices.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/how-charge-phones-battery-3619623/
athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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With the OnePlus 3 you won't need to charge over night as it'll be charged to 62℅ for 30mins to be precise , I used to charge over night all my. Previous phone but with the OnePlus 3 I just charge it for 25mins or something it'll be charged to 90+% as the previous day's charge would still be about 30 to 40%..
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athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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I'm not a battery guru by any means but from my personal experience with cell phones and laptops, it makes very little difference. My old phone was a Galaxy S3 (albeit no quick charge or dash charge), but was charged overnight every night for 5 years. Still on the original battery and lasts a full day with my usage (email sync, facebook, instagram, web browsing, some gaming but not a lot). Off topic, laptop was basically the same deal; actually, was used exclusively plugged in the wall for 3+ years with the battery attached, and when I took it off the charger, still got me through the 3 hours of usage (doesn't seem like a lot but the same hours of usage as if it was brand new).
i dont even charge my phone overnight anymore - just in the car w/ the Dash Car Charger for 15 minutes a day twice a day on weekdays and on weekends with the wall charger ocassionally.
i probably lose 6%-10% overnight, but it's not been an issue, idle drain and SoT are great
in terms of ideal battery health for the long term, you'd probably want to keep it between 10%-90% but you can research this yourself.
2x4 said:
i dont even charge my phone overnight anymore - just in the car w/ the Dash Car Charger for 15 minutes a day twice a day on weekdays and on weekends with the wall charger ocassionally.
i probably lose 6%-10% overnight, but it's not been an issue, idle drain and SoT are great
in terms of ideal battery health for the long term, you'd probably want to keep it between 10%-90% but you can research this yourself.
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ty for your and everyone advice! , on OP store in italy we miss the dash car charge so i can just stick with the wall one. btw one last question, i have a powerbank also 10k mah ( the one on the oneplus store ) if i need recharge outside the phone with it should be ok like was with previous devices right?
athais said:
ty for your and everyone advice! , on OP store in italy we miss the dash car charge so i can just stick with the wall one. btw one last question, i have a powerbank also 10k mah ( the one on the oneplus store ) if i need recharge outside the phone with it should be ok like was with previous devices right?
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Sure but it doesn't charge as quick as the dash charger (wall/car).
Hw4ng3r said:
I'm not a battery guru by any means but from my personal experience with cell phones and laptops, it makes very little difference. My old phone was a Galaxy S3 (albeit no quick charge or dash charge), but was charged overnight every night for 5 years. Still on the original battery and lasts a full day with my usage (email sync, facebook, instagram, web browsing, some gaming but not a lot). Off topic, laptop was basically the same deal; actually, was used exclusively plugged in the wall for 3+ years with the battery attached, and when I took it off the charger, still got me through the 3 hours of usage (doesn't seem like a lot but the same hours of usage as if it was brand new).
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all my laptop i mean all as soon as i take off charger it will die in 10-30 mins thats because it was pluged into the wall brick for few years.
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all my laptop i mean all as soon as i take off charger it will die in 10-30 mins thats because it was pluged into the wall brick for few years.
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hahahah Same with me, Definitely cant leave a laptop in for months at a time
savvymatthew said:
hahahah Same with me, Definitely cant leave a laptop in for months at a time
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Guess they don't make them like they used to? I'm talking about a laptop that is now 8 years old.
Hw4ng3r said:
Guess they don't make them like they used to? I'm talking about a laptop that is now 8 years old.
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They dont make anything like they used to
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They dont make anything like they used to
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Actually for batteries – especially Lithium-Ion ones – this is a good thing.
With new batteries you can make a full cycle every day for 3 years and still have like 70% capacity at the end, as long as you don't go beneth 10% charge regularly.
With moderate usage and and keeping the battery in the 30 - 70% range, you can easily get 5+ years out of your battery.
This works pretty good for me with the OP3. It is just like 15 - 20 minutes of charging every day.
neominik said:
Actually for batteries – especially Lithium-Ion ones – this is a good thing.
With new batteries you can make a full cycle every day for 3 years and still have like 70% capacity at the end, as long as you don't go beneth 10% charge regularly.
With moderate usage and and keeping the battery in the 30 - 70% range, you can easily get 5+ years out of your battery.
This works pretty good for me with the OP3. It is just like 15 - 20 minutes of charging every day.
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I think OP3 was a good choice for me as well. With my usage patterns, I'm only down to about 50% remaining after 14 hours of use.
Sorry to steal the thread but if charging overnight, is it better for the battery to use the dash charger or a regular slower charger?
I would have thought the quick charge can't be particularly good for the battery?

What's the battery life like?

Spec-wise, this phone seems great, with the glaring exception of the battery's size.
I'm hoping someone with the phone could let me know, ideally as detailed as possible, what the battery life is like. Thanks!
duraaraa said:
Spec-wise, this phone seems great, with the glaring exception of the battery's size.
I'm hoping someone with the phone could let me know, ideally as detailed as possible, what the battery life is like. Thanks!
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Initial tests mentioned a screen on time of 4h+, which is nothing to write home about.
On another hand, even though we have a "mere" 3k mAh battery & 5.7" screen, the latter is amoled, which should offer considerable savings as compared to LCD.
I'm waiting for my unit to be shipped, will do some tests & share.
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Initial tests mentioned a screen on time of 4h+, which is nothing to write home about.
On another hand, even though we have a "mere" 3k mAh battery & 5.7" screen, the latter is amoled, which should offer considerable savings as compared to LCD.
I'm waiting for my unit to be shipped, will do some tests & share.
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This is why it is somewhat tempting to go with the $399 5.5" model and the Snapdragon 625. You lose a bit from the 5.7" SD 820: no AMOLED, smaller sensor in the camera, only 4 GB of RAM, but based on battery tests with other phones with the 625, the life could be better than the 820 model.
Review units in the U.S. are starting to appear, TechnoBuffalo recently received their 5.7" and did a quick preview on it.
FYI. PCMagazine has a review up of the 5.7", SD 820 version. They managed about 7 1/4 hours on their video run-down test. The Axon 7 with the same test ran about 6 hours, Samsung S7 Edge, around 10(!).
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FYI. PCMagazine has a review up of the 5.7", SD 820 version. They managed about 7 1/4 hours on their video run-down test. The Axon 7 with the same test ran about 6 hours, Samsung S7 Edge, around 10(!).
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They panned the phone though. TechnoBuffalo loved it, but PC Mag said the camera was shoddy and the UI is absurdly intrusive.
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They panned the phone though. TechnoBuffalo loved it, but PC Mag said the camera was shoddy and the UI is absurdly intrusive.
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CNet liked the regular Zenfone 3 in a recent review. Though they too, thought the Zen UI was way too heavy. Seems to be a problem with some of the imported Android phones lately.
At this point I won't get a Deluxe unless it can be rooted, which I think is likely to happen based on Zenfone 3 progress.
It's the best thing you can atheistically look at. Battery life will get you one day of strong usage. Which combined with USB type-c that's nothing to be bothered by. I'd give the overall phone a solid 8.5 out of 10.
Battery life is terrible.
The same apps I use with no issues on other devices (including other sd820) cause a severe battery drain on the z3d.
My guess is the power management policy in the HAL, framework, or issues with the scheduler on the kernel level.
Initial investigation points to communication apps (Riot, Conversations), which cause a lot of wakelocks (then again, no such issues on other devices).
Once (& if) we have a bootloader unlock, this will be one of the first topics to address in custom kernel builds or custom rom builds.
I go ten hours at work with 2 plus screen time, 30-45 minutes on phone, 3 emails syncing, Facebook, instagram, Snapchat, two phone numbers, and I leave with 50% battery.
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I'm in the same boat as mostly everyone else here. I'm heavily on my phone while at work as well (roughly 6 hours of constant use on most days with heavy internet usage as well). I stay at work 2 days in a row every 3 days, and in that time frame, I still go home with 30-40% battery still left on my phone.
If I were still using my note 4, I would have had to put the phone e on the charger twice a day for both of those days.
Plus, with the dual SIM feature, I don't have to carry around a work phone. My boss was more than happy to get me a nano SIM for my pho e when he found out both my work phone and personal phone would be one in the same and easier to contact.
So yeah, with the above stated, for me, the battery life is way better than what I have put up with on the note 4 for the past 2 years.
Battery is great for me. I don't have a SIM yet but use Google hangouts/Voice# and am constantly on my phone browsing and using different apps. I charged it 7 hours ago, it has 3 hours of screen on time so far, and battery is at 57%. It says it has 9 hours left (based on my current rate, I will probably hut around 7 hours of screen on time. That is on High Performance, though also without a mobile network connected. I am constantly connected to and using wifi though and location is on too.)
Plus with QC3, my phone charges from dead to full in an hour. It is crazy fast.
Edit: Correction, I am in Power Saving mode as I guess I clicked into it when prompted last time my battery drained and forgot to switch back. Didn't notice a performance difference though so maybe I'll stick with this mode until I play a game. Next time I recharge, I will put it in High Performance and record my Screen on time then.

BRAND NEW LG K10 2017 SLOW CHARGING (+4h) tried everything please help !!!!

hello good morning/evening
its been 4days since i bought my LG K10 2017 and it was great until i plug it to charger and it took +3h to fully charge from 5% to 100% i tought at first it was normal and that the battery was Calibrating but when the 2nd day i pluged it also took +3h
:crying::crying:
then i knew there was a probleme so here's what i tried to solve the probleme :
i installed an app called ampere to see how much mah i get with the official lg 0.85A charger and it was around 390mah -430mah everthing deactivated(wifi -bluetooth...). and that stressed me because i heard that charger that give less than 400mah where fake then tried another charger (2A samsung charger) also everthing deactivated(wifi -bluetooth...) and it gave me the same resulte then i interchenged the usb cable same resulte i dont know what to do should i give it back to the reseller ?
can someone tell me how much his k10 2017 take to fully charge ,please ?
i live in a poor contry and this is my first smartphone (i'am 19) and i cant afford to change battery nor any other repair
thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english
diabolo96 said:
hello good morning/evening
its been 4days since i bought my LG K10 2017 and it was great until i plug it to charger and it took +3h to fully charge from 5% to 100% i tought at first it was normal and that the battery was Calibrating but when the 2nd day i pluged it also took +3h
:crying::crying:
then i knew there was a probleme so here's what i tried to solve the probleme :
i installed an app called ampere to see how much mah i get with the official lg 0.85A charger and it was around 390mah -430mah everthing deactivated(wifi -bluetooth...). and that stressed me because i heard that charger that give less than 400mah where fake then tried another charger (2A samsung charger) also everthing deactivated(wifi -bluetooth...) and it gave me the same resulte then i interchenged the usb cable same resulte i dont know what to do should i give it back to the reseller ?
i live in a poor contry and this is my first smartphone (i'am 19) and i cant afford to change battery nor any other repair
thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english
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If you have warranty take it to the shop where you bought it. However if as you say you live in poor country and bought phone from reseller he will probably blame you and refuse to fix phone if there is need for that, I've been there too.. however it's worth of try
Professor Woland said:
If you have warranty take it to the shop where you bought it. However if as you say you live in poor country and bought phone from reseller he will probably blame you and refuse to fix phone if there is need for that, I've been there too.. however it's worth of try
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thank you i m very happy that someone answerd me but im very sterssed because i ve searched for weeks for a cheap but good phone and this phone was the best i could ever found compared to the other smartphone available in my country . anyway i hope your wrong about this reseller and that he'll give my money back(saved for 3months) even if i know that what have you said is very common here
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thank you i m very happy that someone answerd me but im very sterssed because i ve searched for weeks for a cheap but good phone and this phone was the best i could ever found compared to the other smartphone available in my country . anyway i hope your wrong about this reseller and that he'll give my money back(saved for 3months) even if i know that what have you said is very common here
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It's common with resellers in poor countries..
However I doubt it will give money back, best thing you can get is that he will fix the phone or maybe give another device if that isn't fixable..
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thank you i m very happy that someone answerd me but im very sterssed because i ve searched for weeks for a cheap but good phone and this phone was the best i could ever found compared to the other smartphone available in my country . anyway i hope your wrong about this reseller and that he'll give my money back(saved for 3months) even if i know that what have you said is very common here
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I guess the problem isn't with your specific phone and that this problem exists in K10. I have the 2016 K10 and it too charges 2-3+ hours even though it has a smaller battery than the 2017 model (2017 has 2800 mAh and the older one which I have has 2300 mAh battery). That's the only bad thing for the phone. BTW @Professor Woland how long does your kind take to charge?
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I guess the problem isn't with your specific phone and that this problem exists in K10. I have the 2016 K10 and it too charges 2-3+ hours even though it has a smaller battery than the 2017 model (2017 has 2800 mAh and the older one which I have has 2300 mAh battery). That's the only bad thing for the phone. BTW @Professor Woland how long does your kind take to charge?
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Well I don't really pay attention on time and mostly when phone is on charger I use it so I'm not sure about it. However I doubt it takes 4 hours like with this guy, I would say it takes 2 hours top.
The guy mentioned 3+ in the description
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The guy mentioned 3+ in the description
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In reality it's more like +3h but when really low 5 % or less it take +4h
at first i tought it was only my probleme but after more searching in the web i ve found that it was very common for this phone. .
i understand that it take that time with it's original 0.85A charger but not with a 2A samsung charger as i montioned above they bouth give 390 to 450 mah
So and it may sound strange i think it's software caped by lg to avoid battery overheat since it very hot here 45°C(113f) and more and maybe if i can find it and force closing it the phone may charge faster ??? . but to be sure someone has to install a custom rom !
and about the reseller he was closed for holydays and i am not sure to give it back to him because this is the best phone i can have for that price and he can try to repair it but make it worst
and again sorry for my english
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In reality it's more like +3h but when really low 5 % or less it take +4h
at first i tought it was only my probleme but after more few more searching hours i ve found that it was very common for this phone. .
i understand that it take that time whith it's original 0.85A charger but not with a 2A samsung charger as i montioned above they bouth give 390 to 450 mah
So and it may sound strange i think it's software caped by lg to avoid battery overheat since it very hot here 45°C(113f) and more
and about the reseller he was closed for holydays and i am not sure to give it back to him because this is the best phone i can have for that price and he can try to repair it but make it worst
and again sorry for my english
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Yes it maybe common with this phone as I too have stated that I get long charging times. Well I never properly timed it and am comparing it with my previous Samsung phone with a bit higher battery cap around 2600 mAh or something near that and still it too around double the time I had with it
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Well I don't really pay attention on time and mostly when phone is on charger I use it so I'm not sure about it. However I doubt it takes 4 hours like with this guy, I would say it takes 2 hours top.
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If you want to know how much time it take to fully charge install battery doctor it's a very accurate app
It showed me that my phone will take 2h45m to charge from 27 % to 100 % and that really too much !!!
And oh after using cm booster to clear some ram it showed me an app called LG THERMAL CONTROL while the phone is pluged so it may be the cause of the slow charging
diabolo96 said:
If you want to know how much time it take to fully charge install battery doctor it's a very accurate app
It showed me that my phone will take 2h45m to charge from 27 % to 100 % and that really too much !!!
And oh after using cm booster to clear some ram it showed me an app called LG THERMAL CONTROL while the phone is pluged so it may be the cause of the slow charging
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It showed you that your battery be full in that time or it was charged in that time??
Also I highly recommend to delete those apps you mention (cm booster and battery doctor) they are useless and just eat resources.
However I don't know if phone is limited on how much power he can take, and if it is it should be in kernel and if there is limit for that it's there for good reason probably. And we shouldn't play with it or we may can get note 7 effect.
Double post sorry .
Professor Woland said:
It showed you that your battery be full in that time or it was charged in that time??
Also I highly recommend to delete those apps you mention (cm booster and battery doctor) they are useless and just eat resources.
However I don't know if phone is limited on how much power he can take, and if it is it should be in kernel and if there is limit for that it's there for good reason probably. And we shouldn't play with it or we may can get note 7 effect.
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My battery was at 27 % when it showed me that it whould take 2h45min to fully charge, today it took +5h while using it (wifi only , low screen light,airplane mode (allways activated ))
It's sad that such a good phone had to be ruined by this problem .
I don't think battery doctor eat much ressource and it allow me to know how much it will take to charge as for cm i will delete as it seem to be useless.
do you think a fast charge app can help ?
Anyway i wasted to much of your precious time ,at last i can only blame my self for being poor hhhh
diabolo96 said:
My battery was at 27 % when it showed me that it whould take 2h45min to fully charge, today it took +5h while using it (wifi only , low screen light,airplane mode (allways activated ))
It's sad that such a good phone had to be ruined by this problem .
I don't think battery doctor eat much ressource and it allow me to know how much it will take to charge as for cm i will delete as it seem to be useless.
do you think a fast charge app can help ?
Anyway i wasted to much of your precious time ,at last i can only blame my self for being poor hhhh
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Well if it says it will take x hours until fully charged, I can only say it's not accurate. I allredy told you apps are useless. Do you know what fast charge apps do? They simply close all apps in background which come back in matter of seconds or don't and later you wonder why your Facebook/Viber/WhatsApp message hasn't appeared. So it's not fast charge.. Well if it's all the same with this phone than you need to learn to live with it. I have similar phone and never Noticed long charging times mostly because battery lasts while I'm awake and then when I go to sleep I connect it to charger or use it while on it, so that never bothered me really.
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Well if it says it will take x hours until fully charged, I can only say it's not accurate. I allredy told you apps are useless. Do you know what fast charge apps do? They simply close all apps in background which come back in matter of seconds or don't and later you wonder why your Facebook/Viber/WhatsApp message hasn't appeared. So it's not fast charge.. Well if it's all the same with this phone than you need to learn to live with it. I have similar phone and never Noticed long charging times mostly because battery lasts while I'm awake and then when I go to sleep I connect it to charger or use it while on it, so that never bothered me really.
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Ok i will try live with it but i m a heavy user (watch videos-play 3d games - download big size file) so my battery drain fast and dont last long .
By the way how do i close this topic ? should i just add closed to the main title ?

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