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What the pros and cons of tempered glass screen protector vs a Film screen protector?
My concern about the Tempered glass is that :
--it's adhesive is only on the bezel area and since phones today have smaller bezel so it might get detached easily
--Tempered Glass might scratch the glass beneath it
--If adhesive of the Tempered glass became less sticky Dust might accumulate inside
So can you tell me your experience with tempered glass screen protector? I really want to hear from someone who used this screen protector for long time and not on these reviews on youtube since they only used it on the time they review it.
And also does anyone tried using combination of Film and T.glass protectors?
I also second this. Anyone that has this screen protector please respond.
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I just found out that Spigen is selling a new type of tempered Glass screen protector it is "GLAS.T" it's different from the old one. This new one is all transparent and has adhesive all through-out the back part of the screen protector, unlike the old one which has paint on the borders and only adhesive on the painted area.
Spigen has GLAS.T for Note 1 Anyone that used the product for about 5-6 months now?
ichilouch said:
What the pros and cons of tempered glass screen protector vs a Film screen protector?
My concern about the Tempered glass is that :
--it's adhesive is only on the bezel area and since phones today have smaller bezel so it might get detached easily
--Tempered Glass might scratch the glass beneath it
--If adhesive of the Tempered glass became less sticky Dust might accumulate inside
So can you tell me your experience with tempered glass screen protector? I really want to hear from someone who used this screen protector for long time and not on these reviews on youtube since they only used it on the time they review it.
And also does anyone tried using combination of Film and T.glass protectors?
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I have a tempered glass screen protector for my Note 3 and it fits and works perfectly. It's been on my phone for 2 months now. Not a single scratch to it and no peeling or dust accumulation at all. I would recommend one any time over a plastic protector. I got mine from a company called fasttech. They are very cheap compared to UK sellers and the company is very reliable even considering that they are Chinese.
Tempered glass has an adhesive throughout the whole surface, not only the bezel/perimeter area.
The difference is very simple. If you want scratch protection, get a film screen protector, but make sure to get quality PET 3H hardness film like the one sold by iSmooth and Spigen. Cheap ebay stuff is thin, will scratch, will bubble after some time, and will have rainbow effect under the florescent light. If you want ultimate shatter protection - get tempered glass. On impact the glass will shatter without affecting your display. Spigen and Seidio makes some of the best ones. I'm personally a big fan of Seidio VITREO and been using it on my Note 2 for a very long time.
for LG g2 temperate glass or we don't have to buy anything
I use the tempered glass for the LG G2, i think its better than a film protector.
No bubbles nothing, very clean. if you dont look at the edges u wont see there is a protector.
4ex said:
I use the tempered glass for the LG G2, i think its better than a film protector.
No bubbles nothing, very clean. if you dont look at the edges u wont see there is a protector.
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i've really no bubbles, just use the type method to remove bubles cause by dust.
the cons is that film protector changes a bit the polarization of my glass so it has more strange effect on very high view angle
cocconut said:
i've really no bubbles, just use the type method to remove bubles cause by dust.
the cons is that film protector changes a bit the polarization of my glass so it has more strange effect on very high view angle
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Did u try a tempered glass or went straight to the film protector?
I tried 2 film protectors but i wasn't satisfied with that but the tempered glass is really fine for me.
Pros & cons of Tempered glass screen protector
4ex said:
Did u try a tempered glass or went straight to the film protector?
I tried 2 film protectors but i wasn't satisfied with that but the tempered glass is really fine for me.
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The advantages of T. glass over films are the following.
-. Scratch - (almost)free : sellers boast it is harder than stock display, but I don't agree with. Glass screen protector also gets scratch.
-. Superb feeling : yes. its feeling is real better even stock display including any premium film. http://vimeo.com/91463403
-. Bubble -Free : Yes. it is easy to install and you don't worry about bubble.
Disadvantages
-. Price : $5~40 : I have tried $5 and 40 as well. I don't recommend both $5 and $40. you can find good one between them.
-. Thickness :0.15~0.4mm : Compared to film, it is bulky. Sometimes it won't be compatible with certain cases. (I don't recommend too thin one, since it is easy to brake before doing its protection job)
i have used a glass screen protector for the last month until it broke when i dropped my phone from hip height. i am extremely satisfied by the product. as it is rigid, it is very easy to apply and in contrast with plastic film protectors, the tempered glass lets your fingers glide on the screen. i was also impressed by the fact that after 1 month's use my phone had zero scratches, even though i was kind of provoking scratches by the way i was handling the phone. never going back to plastic film, not a slight chance there.
I've run a gauntlet recently with screen protectors and cases with my galaxy s7 edge. I can definitely tell you the pros and cons between tempered glass and soft film screen protectors.
Tempered glass pros- much sturdier, better scratch resistance, looks better. Easier to install. Longer field life. Better phone protection all around.
Tempered glass cons: some cases won't work with tempered glass unless it has a top that fully covers the glass. Dust buildup under screen protector, less sensitivity- much less. Won't work with an otterbox symmetry because the sides and front push the glass up and out but does work with the defender because the defender covers the edge of the screen. If sand or dirt gets underneath glsss, it could scratch up your screen. Very thick too.
PET film pros- better sensitivity, will work with any phone case. Sturdy enough for the most part. No issues with dust buildup under the cover. Works with any case and has better adherence. Very thin.
PET cons- they look cheap and scratch more easily than tempered glass and you can tell that the phone has a screen protector. Harder to install. The protector scratches but the phone screen doesn't. Shorter field life.
Personally, I prefer PET film screen protectors to tempered glass but to be fair, I have an edge phone and glass screen protectors with edge phones can be more finicky than flat phones. Glass looks better, but aside from drop protection and looks, they don't keep the dirt out and can be a chore with the wrong kind of cases, or simply won't work.
I think film is much more versatile and I'm willing to trade some aesthetics in favor of usability. That's my 2 cents on both types of screen protectors based on recent experience.
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And liquid bubbles with soft cases go away in a few days. Air must be popped and dust must be removed physically but moisture does dry out. You can tell a moisture bubble because it has rainbow swirls if you view the phone on a screen with a white background.
Don't try to iron out small moisture bubbles or press them out. They go away on their own within a week and if you mess with them you can bend your soft screen protector out of shape or get divot lines.
Also, if the soft screen protector has the oleophobic coating, it does work very well, in fact it's almost if not better about prints and crap on the screen than actual glass screens. Plus, tempered glass can be a problem on certain phones.
My friend has a note 5 with a tempered glass screen protector and he dropped his phone (no case) so instead of the screen shattering, the back of the phone did. Protectors work, but if you have a glass coated phone- better have a case on it.
The Product
Product Page
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
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You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
The ASF Free Experience
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
Round 2
They included a microfiber cloth this time (I wonder if they read my review )
The tab for peeling off the protective film is also a lot easier to peel off this time.
I couldn't use the hinge method to install this protector because the duct tape just won't stick. Not sure if it's a good thing because the coating is strong or if it's a bad thing because I misaligned thanks to not having a hinge.
Also trapped a spec of fiber, which ironically is probably from the microfiber cloth they provided... Luckily it's so small that I can only find it with my face about 8cm from the screen.
Having this protector on is also definitely visible, due to the rounded corners
Also leaks a bit of light at the side like the edge of a lit acrylic panel (reference)
The coating is indeed very smooth in case I haven't mentioned it enough. My fingers glide on it with pretty much no friction, and because the screen is now raised a bit I don't feel the ridge at the end of the screen anymore. And because it's so smooth you don't have to use much force on the screen so it leaves even less marks. All the pictures I've taken are after 1 day of use and no cleaning at all. And I went snowboarding with it and it didn't crack so don't think its weak just because I goofed the first time.
My camera lens is 14-24mm which is useless for macro so here's a video for you guys
You can find it on their site
Short Term Experience
In the first week, it was oleophobic heaven. Super slick, almost completely fingerprint-proof. The few smudges come off extremely easily.
Towards the end of week 2 it has become less oleophobic. It's not extremely slick like new but it is still very good. Smudges and prints come off just from taking the phone out of the pocket.
End of week 3 had me a bit worried. Has the oleophobic coating worn off already? Fingerprints go on pretty easily and it is not very slick. Then I realized that in this entire time I have not once cleaned the screen with any cleaning solution, only wiping it down with a microfiber cloth.
So I did that and the slickness is back. It feels more like week 2... At least for a few days.
So now I clean the screen regularly and when the screen is clean it's much easier to wipe off fingerprints.
TO BE CONTINUED FOR LONG TERM RESULTS
Well thanks to xda rules I can't post any pictures....
And I have to wait 5 minutes between posts...
This is too much for me to take :crying:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
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omegahanggara said:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
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xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
Winrahr said:
xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
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ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
shteren said:
ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
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And we shall!
It seems to cover exactly the entire screen but I'll check more precisely when I put it on.
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
(pic)
As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
Winrahr said:
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
(pic)
As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
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It's too bad that you cracked you screen protector, I cheer for you haha.
Well at least if the ultra thin is working like you said, I don't have to fear anything with the 0.33mm one. Thanks! By the way, take time to post one more time and you're good to go with the pictures, show us your baby!
Will be waiting for teh pictures!
Really wanting to buy this, front and back, to replace my <1week old nillkin tempered.
curious
I hope you can post the pics.... so add this reply to the count.:victory:
Boop. 10th post.
OP will now be updated with pictures
I think the greatest weakness of the 0.2mm will be its... weakness. The thinness probably makes it more prone to cracking than the thicker protectors, but it is also probably more flexible, so who knows. It's definitely not super fragile though, I was just being stupid.
Also want to add that the customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not :good:
So while I wait for the second protector to come in, I'll be using the phone without an ASF and I'll do a writeup on that in a few days as well.
I still have the cracked protector so if anyone wants me to do some testing with it let me know
Winrahr said:
The Product
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
TO BE CONTINUED
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
I don't see how a smaller screen protector makes it easier to fit, having to match the spacing on each side will definitely test the very limits of my patience, and I know I'll mess up and get reminded of my mistake every single time I use the phone.
Also can you please unquote the OP? That's a huge quote.
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
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I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
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Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
Winrahr said:
Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
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I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
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I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
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Hmmm.. My main concern for the back is the fingerprints so maybe a good oleophobic coating on the glass after removing the ASF would be good... Or I could just get a cheap rear glass...
Speaking of the ASF, I've been using my bare screen for a while so I'll talk a little about it.
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
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I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
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I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
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Yep you need to order from their page here which is specifically for out of Japan orders.
Then just put in your info like normal and don't worry about the state. You can repeat all the info in the comments field just in case.
I'm actually picking the new one up today and I'll have new pictures up soon. I didn't buy the back though.
There is actually no 0.2mm version set so you'll have to purchase the back glass separately here.
Firstly, I have read through many of the threads existing on protectors.
When I checked YouTube to see if there were any videos comparing screen protectors for the OPX there were none, so I watched a video comparing 4 screen protectors for a different phone. Of these Armorz and Bodyguardz protectors seemed to come out on top, and survive the strenuous tests the videomaker put them through. It seems neither of these brands make protectors for the OPX.
Next I searched this forum and read through many of the threads on the different screen protectors. For as many people that promote the different protectors, there seem to be as many if not more detractors, complaining of rainbox effect, the protector fitting one OPX but not another, air bubbles, etc.
I ordered my OPX today, and I intend to order a Spigen OnePlus X Case Rugged Armor Black but I was hoping to compliment that with a screen protector.
I was hoping to order the best protector, that will fit my OPX, no rainbox effect, and that will not cause any isue with the Spigen Case - does this exist?
Simple answer is it depends on luck.
I have tried several including 1+, Nillkin, generic, full cover... None of them are perfect, if you go for any like the official 1+ one where only the display is covered you may end up with horrid air bubbles around the cover, many people complained of this-I only know of one guy who done it flawlessly. The plus side of this is that cases will fit fine. The full cover one is the best one I've tried, though it has a rainbow effect in the middle of the screen which can be seen under bright light conditions or on a white screen. This screen protector doesn't have any air bubbles and fits great, only downside is the rainbow, some cases should fit fine e.g. I use the Nillkin frosted back cover which fits without issue.
For me the small rainbow is something I can deal with unlike the air bubbles around the whole display which were an eye sore, you'd be lucky if you didn't get any. So it is hit and miss tbh, just trial and error, I wasted a good £20 on protectors for this phone, which is something I'll never do again.
In the end I ordered from Amazon:
OnePlus X Screen Protector,Nillkin®[Anti-Explosion ][With Camera film][With Back Protector]Amazing H+Pro 9H Tempered Glass Screen Protector for OnePlus X
You mention the protector you use covers the whole phone, but the thing is that I also want the added protection of the Spigen OnePlus X Rugged Armour.
Accepting that they all have flaws, as I can probably still cancel my order and change it, and considering I want front screen protection AND the Spigen Rugged Armour case, do you think I would be better with a different protector than the Nilkin?
*Air bubbles are the main thing I wish to avoid, I could live with a Rainbox effect, once it is only visible from certain angles etc.?
It is a real shame there are non more protectors, I really was sold on Bodyguardz or Armorz protectors after watching the videos where they were tested, and was disappointed to discover they do not make protectors the OPX. I am guessing they do not think there is enough of a market to make it worth their while.
I had a look at the case and it seems that the Nillkin one is probably your best option, as the case covers the sides and slightly overlaps on the front-full protector covers the whole front so you may get issues with it.
Have a look for yourself, here is the one I bought (and currently use):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281856280418
This is the issue, you could risk bubbles and use the spigen or avoid them, live with a rainbow and use another case. It's down to luck, you may not get any bubbles or rainbow depending on which one you use.
The first sentence in your reply is not so clear, you are saying the Nilkin it is the best option although I may still have issues with it?
I ordered the protector you linked to on eBay about a week ago, but it will take a few weeks to get here!
I do have my Nilkin H+ protector here, my Spigen Rugged Armor case, and my OnePlus X arrived about 15 minutes ago
I want to try apply the Nilkin cover right away - I will post picture for others - but what is the best method? I read somewhere on the forum that we should make sure to use the 'x method', but I cannot remember what x is?
The full cover protector covers the whole front, I mean edge to edge, so the case may not fit-it may conflict with the glass. The Nillkin one only covers the display/screen not the side edges/bezels so you will have no issues with the protector and case.
I have never heard of the 'x method' so don't know, but the best method I have used is with tape or alignment stickers (your protector may have came with them). So you carefully align the protector with the display, apply the tape so it stays in place, remove the film and just close the protector (like a book), apply some pressure in the centre and leave it for a few minutes. Oh and make sure there isn't any dust before applying the glass, use a microfibre cloth to clean.
Also, just to clear things up-you may have issues with the full cover glass protector (not Nillkin-I gave the ebay link previously), the only issue with the Nillkin one is that if you botch it, you will have an air gap around the whole glass. Though if your lucky you may not.
I think this is the x method:
Chris.nl said:
I'm happy with it. The glass feels better then the plastic stock one.
Use the 'hinge method' to apply the screenprotector.
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Though I haven't tried it myself.
Please upload some picture of your result when you are done
Used hinge method, still got the rainbow effect. I tried unhinging it a few times and cleaned both the screen and the protector and places it back on but there was always a rainbox effect - the last time I tried removing it the protector cracked
I was suspicious at the time when I tried installing the Nilkin Screen Protector, the plastic film removable cover of the protector was on the OUTSIDE of the tempered glass!!!!
WTF!
I know it was on the outside, and not the inside, because the holes in the glass for the front ear speaker and front camera would only line up when the film cover was on the outside, that is facing me as I looked down at the phone. This was the first tempered glass screen protector I ever tried to install, so I assumed I must be mistaken and continued trying to install.
From the videos I have looked again, it seems that this film cover should always be on the inside of the protector (before being removed), that is, on the side of the tempered glass that will be touching the screen of the phone?
Thanks, yes that is the method, see my comments on how it did not work and how I think they somehow sent me a screen protector with the film cover on the wrong side.
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As you can see the plastic film protector is on the wrong side of the tempered glass, well, if you want the holes for the speaker and camera to line up!
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Yeah, the film is on the inside, the side that attaches to the screen, peeling the plastic sheet off exposes the adhesive bit which sticks to the glass. Just saw the pictures, bad luck man. I got through like 3-4 protectors before settling-if that makes you feel better.
Then I am not losing my mind! Did you see the picture I posted?
Amazon are refunding me at least. I hate that I could not apply a protector to the brand new screen.
Like I said before, I have ordered the one you recommended but it will take some weeks to arrive, and I think you said it will not fit with my Spigen Rugged Armor case anyway.
Can you recommend any others and I will order now? I am in Ireland so possible options are Amazon UK or ebay, though I guess I can order from anywhere really.
As this device is relatively new (only a few months old) there are not many variations of protectors available. As far as I am aware there is the Nillkin type which covers the screen only and the full cover which covers the whole front. I got the ebay one in about a week (China to London), I chose standard delivery (its free and faster than economy).
Check the image in my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65705849&postcount=37
That is the full cover one, I had an issue and got it replaced, now it only has a slight rainbow-but I can live with it.
TIFU - I did not realise the second smaller hole in the Nilkin tempered glass was for the proximity sensor, the camera has no hole...
Since there is only a thread for the Nillkin cases and tempered glass I thought it would be nice to have some thread for the accessories in general.
Until this day I tried 3 cases, two screen protectors (films) and two tempered glass protectors.
Case No. 1 ) Slim, silicone case http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transparent-Clear-Silicone-Slim-Gel-Case-For-Huawei-Honor-9/112446352466?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 - Very slim and light case made from nice silicone BUT the protection when dropped would be none. It's not made 100% precisely and since it's silicone it doesn't look any good on the back where it creates bubbles. I've ordered this as the first case to have at least some protection. Nice thing is they include free screen protector but the quality isn't very good - doesn't cover the whole display (I'm not talking about edge-to-edge) and there are 2mm gaps on each side and when the display is on it looks terrible. 2/5
Case No. 2) Nillkin Super Frosted http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-HUAWEI-Honor-9-NILLKIN-Super-Frosted-Shield-Hard-Plastic-Back-Covers-Cases-/152596952252?var=&hash=item23877cb4bc:m:mtNLCAV-KRHaAK2TUOYLPTg - very nice case, really sturdy BUT I have few complaints - it's kinda slippery on the sides but this will go away after some use maybe and the bottom side around jack, charging port and speaker is a bit sharp and if you're holding the phone with the little finger on the bottom it't not really comfortable. Besides that it's really nice case for the price but I expected a bit more. But once again for the price it's more than OK. 4/5
Case No. 3) TPU Shockproof case with "carbon" http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Carbon-Fiber-Slim-Shockproof-Soft-TPU-Back-Case-For-Huawei-Honor-9-Magic/112325496837?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=412748326145&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 - as you can imagine, there is absolutely no carbon at all, just some kind of "sticker" or what it is. Nevermind, this case is the best of the three. Really nice case made from TPU, sturdy, should have the best drop protection and fits just perfectly. There is a small "rim" around the screen that should protect the screen from scratches when the phone is "face down". 5/5
Screen protector (film) No. 1) Nillkin Super Clear Protective Film - in terms of size the best screen protector I've had. Obviously it's not edge-to-edge but it does cover the whole display with gaps on the edges BUT the display is fully protected so thumbs up for me. In terms of "anti-fingerprint" it's nowhere close to the display or the back but is much better than some noname protector I've got with TPU case. Overall very nice screen protector for free but I'm still waiting for the Nillkin H+ tempered glass and some noname edge-to-edge tempered glass. 4/5
Tempered glass No. 1) Edge-to-edge blue 2.5D tempered glass http://www.ebay.com/itm/9H-2-5D-Full-Cover-Real-Tempered-Glass-Screen-Protective-Film-For-Huawei-honor-9/152593109357?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=452016649496&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 - really nice tempered glass (2 pcs) for the price. It has the adhesive only on the top, bottom and the sides but the application was very easy and the glass holds on even with any of tested cases. It has some "dots" in the screen area so I got no rainbow effect whatsoever. The blue color is a bit different from the original color od the phone but it's not a problem since you have your phone in a case. Overall for the price pretty good. 4/5
Tempered glass No. 2) Normal tempered glass Caliber (bought in CZE) - not edge-to-edge, doesn't cover the whole screen, gaps on the sides. Overall sh*t. 1/5
Still waiting for the Nillkin H+ tempered glass.
Nilkin Amazing H+ Pro is No Go
Got the 0.2mm H+ Pro. It's cover the display area for like 99%, with-out just about 0.5mm on each side, after all still the best.
BUT. The silicon layer doesn't hold the tempered glass on both sides, looks like the phone display curve started a bit earlier than its needed for the protector.
It doesn't stick to the display, making it looks like ****, with 3mm frame from each side. Top/bottom sides stick OK, all the way to edges.
So Nilkin Amazing H+ Pro is No Go for me.
Well, got it yesterday so I'm still waiting to try it but not sure if wan't to :laugh:
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sooooo, I bought these from tvc mall. They were so cheap that I bought three different ones with the intent of disposing of whichever were poor. Thing is, they are all good in their own way. The plain bumper is just very slimline. The rugged looking one is cool as it has a stand in landscape mode, and the wallet is exceptional quality, given the price. All three fit perfectly, but the plain bumper makes the power and volume buttons so much more tactile. The rugged one looks really cheap in silver, perhaps black would have been a good choice. As i wasn't expecting much from the wallet one, I also oredered the nilkin wallet but that hasn't arrived yet.
https://www.tvc-mall.com/details/dr...r-9-auspicious-dragon-black-sku10174840d.html
https://www.tvc-mall.com/details/fo...casing-with-kickstand-black-sku10174919a.html
https://www.tvc-mall.com/details/ma...ot-for-huawei-honor-9-black-sku10175044a.html
https://www.tvc-mall.com/details/ni...se-for-huawei-honor-9-black-sku10174916a.html
I have also ordered the ultimate sheild screen protector, which is edge to edge, in black as I think it will make an excellent contrast to the silver rear of the handset....which wont be visible when the (absolutely necessary) bumper is fitted!
Ultimate sheild screen protector
.... And the ultimate sheild protector turned up. It is excellent. A word of caution, unless this is fitted absolutely perfectly, it will render one or both of the capacitance keys inoperable. This happened to me as i fitted the sheild a fraction of a millimetre to the right. I carefully removed and replaced it with more accuracy.
Here is a pic of the black sheild fitted to my silver H9, and a photo of the plain bumper fitted from my previous post. Svelt but rugged!
After a couple of hours of use I can say that there has been no loss of sensitivity on the screen or capacitive buttons, but on darker details and the blacks, it does look like the screen is behind a sheet of glass. You will know what i mean if you have used a screen protector which bonds over its entirety, whereas this one has a mild adhesive at the top and bottom of the protector, where the bezels are. A small price to pay i think to protect my new device. It is mostly noticeable in bright light, not so much in low light. And I love the new black look of the bezels with the silver fingerprint sensor still visible.
Right, so, some more hours on....the ultimate sheild has begun to show its flaws. Towards the middle of the screen there is now what i can only describe as a "woodgrain" effect. This could be caused by tiny amounts of moisture getting between the screen and protector, which I guess there is nothing to stop that happening. They offered a refund for dissatisfaction so I guess I will be chasing that up. Pfffft. So disappointed.....
Is there a smart cover for it ?!
Just bought the TPU Shockproof case and it is amazing! It's a very good quality and it doesn't makes the phone feel like a toy.
I really like it and definitely recommend it!
NotoriousNick said:
Just bought the TPU Shockproof case and it is amazing! It's a very good quality and it doesn't makes the phone feel like a toy.
I really like it and definitely recommend it!
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Can you upload a photo of the phone with the case applied?! That would be awesome
The nilkin "sparkle series" wallet turned up. Its awful. Unlike the cheap wallet I purchased, which remains closed under magnetism, the nilkin just falls open and feels poorer quality.
The Ipaky bumper with the clear perspex back is, however, very nice. The only caveat, it sits flush with the screen so offers no protection if you decide to place your device screen down.
I'm waiting for the smart cover case, if it didn't come fast, I'll go with a skin.
I have bought an honor 9 few days ago. Somebody could suggest me a screen protector that cover whole display? With 3D display is so difficult find a good screen protector....
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I have bought an honor 9 few days ago. Somebody could suggest me a screen protector that cover whole display? With 3D display is so difficult find a good screen protector....
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Here you go
https://www.ultimateshield.co.uk/collections/honor-9
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Here you go
https://www.ultimateshield.co.uk/collections/honor-9
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Thanks.
I don't like this type of tempered glass (i know that is the only solution for cover 3d display without space).
So, someone has tested "invisible film screen protector"?
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Thanks.
I don't like this type of tempered glass (i know that is the only solution for cover 3d display without space).
So, someone has tested "invisible film screen protector"?
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I didn't test, I will try it once I get my honor 9
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I didn't test, I will try it once I get my honor 9
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If someone else has tried this protective film, please give us a feedback.
Did someone try the Mofi screen protector? According to a review on Aliexpress it has minimal space at both sides.
I've seen ones from ultimate shield, I'm considering getting one.
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I've seen ones from ultimate shield, I'm considering getting one.
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Good luck with that. Did you read my earlier post? As the protector does not actually sit on the screen, due to the adhesive around the edges, it is susceptible to the "rainbow effect" which i think is caused by humidity between screen and protector. It seemed to manifest itself after the phone had been in my pocket and warmed up. I don't have an overly sweaty crotch.....
Anyhow, they apologised and promptly sent a replacement and the same happened again.
By all means give it a go and they will refund you without issue.
From experience of using front screen glass protectors for the fold 3, which would you recommend for the fold 4?
Yes won't purchase from whitestone due to bad support they gave when trying to get support on screen protector and how rude they were. Even though I used to recommend them a lot before. But when needed. They failed. But that was my experience. Should be decent but haven't used them for more than a year since it happened. With the note 20 ultra release.
Spigen looks decent but haven't used their screen protectors as used AMfilm. But they don't seem to have for the fold. So still seeing on what to use. As well.
But seeing both would be about same warranty just depends on who handles it better.
The Spigen comes with guide to install it but whitestone comes with 2 at a cheaper price.
The good thing of these is not as the note series that they are $30 to $45 per pack.
The Spigen is so easy to install, plus I don't see the point of installing or replace the inner screen protector. We can get Samsung to do it for free? or cheaply after a year.
I went with the non liquid adhesive whitestone simply because i have it on my fold 3 and it works well. Plus the kit came with a film hinge protector as well.
this one. it involve soap water while applying. i dont know if we can apply the inside protector over and bove the stock one on inside screen
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B0B9YQF2LF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Installed the Whitestone last night with no issues. This one is not as easy as the Spigen since there is no lineup template but I like that I received 2 front screen protectors, a camera protector and an edge guard.
can we apply screen procetor above the factory one inside? last year the inside screen protector oleophobic coating got weared off and it was so hard to scroll. this time thinking of applying another one, so that i can change it every 5months or so
I applied the Spigen EZFit on my Fold4 today, came out perfect. They make a great product, been buying their stuff for years.
Recieved my fold 4 today
Immediately i put on spigen glass Tr
The front tempered glass is good
And doesn’t interfere with the case lips
But the hinge protector is not working as advertised.
The hinge protector from spigen is very thin already but after installing it, everytime i open or close the screen it will get caught up and peeled off on edges
Maybe the gap between the hinge and the screen is slimmer this time
So I don’t think we can put any protector on the hinge without interfering with the mechanism.
On my old flip 1 it was ok
I tried the Whitestone and it is smaller than the front screen?!?!?!? I should send it back!
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I tried the Whitestone and it is smaller than the front screen?!?!?!? I should send it back!
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Flame Red said:
I tried the Whitestone and it is smaller than the front screen?!?!?!? I should send it back!
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Yeah they all are, so cases don't lift it. I've put a Samsung one on now, not glass one.
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Recieved my fold 4 today
Immediately i put on spigen glass Tr
The front tempered glass is good
And doesn’t interfere with the case lips
But the hinge protector is not working as advertised.
The hinge protector from spigen is very thin already but after installing it, everytime i open or close the screen it will get caught up and peeled off on edges
Maybe the gap between the hinge and the screen is slimmer this time
So I don’t think we can put any protector on the hinge without interfering with the mechanism.
On my old flip 1 it was ok
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Yeah had the exact same thing, took it off, ordered full body skin instead
I also got the whitestone. I must say it perfectly covers the actual LCD part with about 2mm extra glass borders. The camera lense cutout is quite perfect as well, with the face unlock light ring lining up perfectly. I would certainly have preferred the glass to be taller and wider, but that's to prevent case interference as we know. Sometimes later in the cycle certain companies release their "edge to edge" screen protects, would want to see if any of them come up.
The included camera cover also fits quite perfectly, no have issues with the official Samsung case cutout.
The included hinge protector film I didn't try, not sure if it would mess with the mechanism to keep dust/grime out.
Overall for the price, I think it's pretty good.
Waiting for my Whitestone EZ glass screen protector to arrive. In the meantime, I already have a fairly deep scratch in the front glass. Ive babied this phone and have zero clue where it came from.