Jelly Effect? - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

Has anyone noticed the jelly effect on this phone?

I definitely noticed it right out of the box. The only place I had actually noticed it was in Moto's launcher. I think the refresh rate is good enough to not notice it under most circumstances. I think the biggest issue with this phone right now is touch latency.

XirXes said:
I definitely noticed it right out of the box. The only place I had actually noticed it was in Moto's launcher. I think the refresh rate is good enough to not notice it under most circumstances. I think the biggest issue with this phone right now is touch latency.
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I feel exactly the same touch latency needs a boost and I don't really notice the jelly effect

No jelly effect and my touch is just as good as my moto z.. maybe I got lucky

So....people say the jelly effect (at least on the OP5) is because the screen is mounted upside down. Does this mean if you turn the phone upside down (to make it the same as any other phone) that the jelly effect goes away? And can you flip any "normal" phone over and then start getting the jelly effect?
That doesn't make sense to me.

xamindar said:
So....people say the jelly effect (at least on the OP5) is because the screen is mounted upside down. Does this mean if you turn the phone upside down (to make it the same as any other phone) that the jelly effect goes away? And can you flip any "normal" phone over and then start getting the jelly effect?
That doesn't make sense to me.
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Displays refresh frame by frame vertically, which means that the refresh typically happens from top to bottom. If you flip the display, then what happens is it begins refreshing from bottom to top. If you invert the display and force it to rotate 180 degrees then you're refreshing with the displays intended direction. The jelly effect is a partially refreshed frame along with a stagnant frame. There's a delay created going in reverse.

Got mine from Best buy on the 11th. No jelly scrolling here.

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Things i hate about the HTC Desire

I really miss a few features on my HTC Hero. Sadly it seems like the Hero was much more userfriendly when it comes to hardware design choices.
1. PenTile Matrix Display freaks me out. I can see the rough edges very easily. Makes my eyes having problems with focusing because the edges seem blurry. I have read a lot about this problem prior to getting an Desire so i shouldn't complain. Still it's much more visible than some people try to make it sound. Especially in white text/ black background.
2. Hardware Buttons: Call Buttons...yeah everybody can see that the Desire doesn't have those, and that's not my main gripe. My MAIN problem is that i can't wake this damn screen with ANY other button than the POWER Button, which happens to be positioned at the most uncomfortable position available. It was so much more user friendly on the Hero where i can wake and unlock the screen by two hardware buttons at the bottom.
3. Android Market is SLOW: Why is the Android market like 500 times slower to start a download than my old hero?
4. trackpad: the trackwheel for the hero was more precise.
5. color saturation. welcome to the candy land! Reds and orange colors burn into your eyes. some people like that.
6. it killed my microsd card...well ok i don't know if this is the desires fault but still: suddenly my sd card was shown as faulty. On the PC is works without any problems, but i had to format it in order to use it with the desire.
Of course there are some good things too, like the speed. The desire is really fast, but not THAT much faster than the Milestone. And the overall built quality is great.
Everything you mention is why I LOVE my Desire - vibrant colours, awesome screen, optical pad instead of ball which only ends up breaking/getting clogged with dust...can't fault it IMO (except the Market, it is a bit slow but meh)
according to your point nr 6. did you always safety remove it after plugging in to the PC ?
well i'm sort of used with the "power button to wake the device" since i had a winmo device before the desire, so i don't really see it as a bad thing
cez10 said:
according to your point nr 6. did you always safety remove it after plugging in to the PC ?
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i'm using windows 7 64bit and never did that, my sd card was show as faulty once so i powered off the phone took out the card, putted in my pc and saw that everything was working fine, putted it again in the phone and never had a problem again.
EddyOS said:
Everything you mention is why I LOVE my Desire - vibrant colours, awesome screen, optical pad instead of ball which only ends up breaking/getting clogged with dust...can't fault it IMO (except the Market, it is a bit slow but meh)
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awesome screen? Have you seen the Motorola Droid live?
About the colors, they are not reproduced correctly as many tests have proven. But i already said that this is also a personal preference.
But the bad resolution quality (comapred to the droid) of the PenTile Matrix display is not a matter of preference, because nobody would prefer the PenTile concept compared to the usual RGB per Pixel approach.
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according to your point nr 6. did you always safety remove it after plugging in to the PC ?
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no, and actually i believe this was the problem. I only unmounted the sd card using the desire/hero, but never ejected the card on windows prior to that. Just recently i found out that i have to eject the card via windows before unmounting it.
#1
You say I shouldn't complain... then don't I don't have any problems with my eyes.
#2
Why would you need call buttons? My screen turns on as soon as I pull it from my ear (proximity sensor) quite easy to touch the big red bar then isn't it?
#3
My market doesn't appear to be any slower, and download is only improved, I have a 20 mbit connection and with my hero on wifi I would max get 500kb/s
The desire reaches full connection speed @ 1500kb/s so download from market is a lot faster.
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More precise but it got dirty very quick, mine even changed color from white to yellowish (maybe I should stop smoking) but not only nicotine sticks to it. Everything sticks to it.
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
awesome screen? Have you seen the Motorola Droid live?
About the colors, they are not reproduced correctly as many tests have proven. But i already said that this is also a personal preference.
But the bad resolution quality (comapred to the droid) of the PenTile Matrix display is not a matter of preference, because nobody would prefer the PenTile concept compared to the usual RGB per Pixel approach.
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I've not seen the Droid, nor do I want to. Motorola phones are some of the WORST I've ever had the pleasure (or not) to use. I've no issues with the Desire's screen and bar the slight pink issue I can't fault it.
As said, this is all personal opinion but putting a thread about why you hate a device in the forum where people who love it frequent is asking to get flamed!!
EddyOS said:
I've not seen the Droid, nor do I want to. Motorola phones are some of the WORST I've ever had the pleasure (or not) to use. I've no issues with the Desire's screen and bar the slight pink issue I can't fault it.
As said, this is all personal opinion but putting a thread about why you hate a device in the forum where people who love it frequent is asking to get flamed!!
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He only hates a few parts of it, not the whole thing, what's wrong with that?
I agree on most points, though this is my first android phone. The first thing I noticed when I turned it on was the jagged line thing because of the pentile display, its no way near as nice looking as a display should be with that ppi. It kind of defeats the point of a hi res screen.
But other than that and the fact that sense sucks compared to stock ui, I love this phone
I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!
EddyOS said:
I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!
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lol you will have it as it's impossible to not. Its easiest to notice on the edge of each key on the keyboard. You can quite clearly see the individual pixels, which you shouldn't really see on a high res screen
EddyOS said:
I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!
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your eyes probably don't notice it, which is actually very good in this case.
Sadly my eagle eyes can see it very clearly. I just have to wait a few year, then i won't see the problems either.
But believe me the Motorola Milestone Display is just better by a huge margin. I had a testdevice for my blog for about 2 months, and the display is fantastic.
samac92 is completely right, when he says that the pentile technology defeats the point of having a (pseudo) WVGA resolution. If you ever have the chance to compare the Motorola droid vs. Desire display, do it. The difference is huge, because the droid has real WVGA resolution as every pixel has RGB color informations, while pentile pixel only have two color informations per pixel.
I've got perfect 20/20 vision, I just probably haven't looked close enough tbh - a slightly jagged keyboard really doesn't bother me. Coming from the HD2 with it's huge (but washed out) screen this is a god send and easily the best phone I've had...and I've had a lot!!
No doubt something else will come out in future but for now I honestly have no issues with the Desire. If I did I'd be rid of it
Plus, the Milestone is a HORRID looking phone...nothing new there, eh Moto??
#1: i was hoping that the pentile problem wasn't as bad. But sadly it is quite bad indeed.
#2 i don't need call buttons at any cost, i need hardware buttons at the bottom of the device (don't care if its a call button or any other button) which can wake up the screen, and put it so sleep mode. I don't want to reach out to the power button every time, as this is not a natural movement when holding the device with one hand.
Also redialing using the "start call" button was very comfortable as you would directly open the dialer app. It's quicker than having to use a shortcut app on the homescreen imho.
#3 not the download itself is slower. but the time that passes until the download starts. There are time where i have to wait for 3-4 minutes until the download starts. Having a good downstream is great, but on my hero i have the app installed before the download starts on the desire on some occasions.
Stafflover said:
#1
You say I shouldn't complain... then don't I don't have any problems with my eyes.
#2
Why would you need call buttons? My screen turns on as soon as I pull it from my ear (proximity sensor) quite easy to touch the big red bar then isn't it?
#3
My market doesn't appear to be any slower, and download is only improved, I have a 20 mbit connection and with my hero on wifi I would max get 500kb/s
The desire reaches full connection speed @ 1500kb/s so download from market is a lot faster.
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More precise but it got dirty very quick, mine even changed color from white to yellowish (maybe I should stop smoking) but not only nicotine sticks to it. Everything sticks to it.
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EddyOS said:
I've got perfect 20/20 vision, I just probably haven't looked close enough tbh - a slightly jagged keyboard really doesn't bother me. Coming from the HD2 with it's huge (but washed out) screen this is a god send and easily the best phone I've had...and I've had a lot!!
No doubt something else will come out in future but for now I honestly have no issues with the Desire. If I did I'd be rid of it
Plus, the Milestone is a HORRID looking phone...nothing new there, eh Moto??
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you are right, the HD2 was somehow blurry and washed out.
The sad thing is that i don't have to look close to see the rough edges on the desire display. i can see it very easily.
But you really miss out on the milestone display, you don't have to wait for future devices to blow out the desires display out of the water. After seeing that milestone magic, the desire display is just no contest anymore. I would have opted for the milestone, but other than the display the desire just has much better hardware specs like RAM and CPU. i also like sense.
And the milestone doesn't have the new launcher style of the N1 after the 2.1 update, but still the plain old boring android 1.x launcher.
I wouldn't be caught dead with the Milestone - every review I've read has said it's crap and a screen just isn't enough to have a phone I'm afraid...
Desire FTW!!
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I wouldn't be caught dead with the Milestone - every review I've read has said it's crap and a screen just isn't enough to have a phone I'm afraid...
Desire FTW!!
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hmm very interesting as nearly all known media like engadget and gizmodo as well as all big media in germany really praised this device.
I praised it on my blog review too. And i'm definetly not preferring motorola usually. I'm a HTC fan starting from MDA Compact (HTC Magician) days a decade ago.
The Milestone was the first real killer Android device which sold some impressing numbers. Of course the HTC Hero wasn't bad either, but it didn't have the impact that the droid/milestine had.
Well I've just looked long and hard at the keyboard and I can't see any individual pixels.
But I am 40, so that might be another benefit of getting older.
It was the very first thing I noticed on the Desire, even though it took me a while to find what it was. I don't think good or bad eyesight has anything to do with us noticing or not noticing the PenTile issue. I also see issues on HD tv's and expensive HD Projectors, that no one else sees. And no, my vision is far from perfect. I don't wear glasses, but other than that, my sight is average at the most. So I guess it has to do with how your brain process the visual input. Oh, and I am over 40 too
3. Android Market is SLOW: Why is the Android market like 500 times slower to start a download than my old hero?
Download appbrain from the market then you can use the appbrain.com site for apps then sync to your phone from your pc.
That site is faster to use than the market place

Display Artefact/ghosting line on lowest brightness

I have a diagonal line that runs along the width of the display it runs at a slight angel, it can be only seen with the display set a its lowest setting and running a black image in a very dark room. I have taken the phone back to three (solihull) who after 3 goes of trying to see it are aware of the problem and acknowledged it. They checked their demo phone which didn't have the problem. They have contacted their Samsung rep who I am awaiting a call from.
Does anyone have a similar problem?
This is normal with AMOLED displays.
the thing is, my GS2 doesnt have this "problem" on the lowest screen brightness.
I compared them last night side by side and its very noticable on my Nexus
That said, i've already accepted the fact that everyone else has some variation of this "issue" but im more curious on what the Samsung rep has to say about it. I'm also curious if its more visible on some devices as opposed to others.
I put my brightness on a static settings so it doenst effect me much (I can see it a bit on dark grey backgrounds) but i'm just imagining people who use auto brightness cause there's NO way you can miss it on whites/greys
you must have a magic Galaxy S II then, because it is a known issue with AMOLED screens when running at low brightness.
ill try and take a picture tonight with my devices side by side
honestly, anyone would be able to spot it out if you saw them in person.
Either my GS2 doesnt have the issue, or its VERY hard to see. I took long hard looks because i was really debating if my Nexus was defective - if this is just how it is then im willing to accept it - i just want to make sure we're not part of some funky batch
i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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you must have a magic Galaxy S II then, because it is a known issue with AMOLED screens when running at low brightness.
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It may be a known issue, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. I've not experienced any issues like this on either of my Fascinates. I'd certainly return mine if there were any screen issues.
oscillik said:
This is normal with AMOLED displays.
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I understand the artefacts you mean but this is a single bar about 3mm thick its not dead pixels like the three store suggested otherwise it wouldn't matter about the brightness it almost looks like something is pressing gently against the screen. I have tried to photograph it but my camera/me are not the best.
Thyrus said:
i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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yeah its pretty much like that
it's like...grainy with weird colours. I wouldnt say i see any thick LINES, instead it reminds me of throwing paint on a wall and letting it slide down. I'll try and take a picture tonight with some high res camera so you guys can hopefully see what im talking about
unfortauntely its not so easy for me to get a return since im in canada and i bought mine through Handtec in the UK - im pretty sure RMA-ing is a huge hassle and wait, plus im not sure if i have to pay for the shipping
Thyrus said:
i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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Its not like that on mine.
lol i took that pic with my G2x, its not as extreme as that in real life.
An OLED (organic light-emitting diode) is a light-emitting diode (LED) in which the emissive electroluminescent layer is a film of organic compounds which emit light in response to an electric current.
It;s Organic. Each row of organic pixels may have slightly different tolerances to voltage than the next, hence you get dark and lighter rows varying to different degrees on different screens.
By all means take a chance and see if a replacement is all the same tolerances with no darker or lighter lines or if it has lots of them and looks like a striped screen. I don't think its a "defect" as such, its just a "characteristic" of AMOLED. If they wanted Samsung could measure the tolerance of each OLED to a very accurate level and there would be no dark or light lines on any screen. It would be very expensive though, so they fall into a catagory of acceptable or not.
Thats just my opinion by the way.
edit: Im actual glad so many others are questioning this too. I feel less pedantic now. lol
mcgon1979 said:
By all means take a chance and see if a replacement is all the same tolerances with no darker or lighter lines or if it has lots of them and looks like a striped screen.
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Bear in mind that any replacement you get may in fact have a worse screen. I was lucky when I got my replacement phone (replaced due to volume bug, nothing to do with the screen) and my screen was luckily better. You may not be so lucky.
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I don't think its a "defect" as such, its just a "characteristic" of AMOLED.
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Indeed
well i just got my nexus today and as expected noticed a small transparant line running down with screen with auto brightness / low brightness. So i turned it of and manualy set to around 55 60% defintly cant notice it now just bummer cant use auto brightness .... will have to see how battery holds out like this as i luv this phone

Now that there's root, fix camera issue?

Is there a way to change the annoying feature of the camera (only issue I have) that just loves to float around? Holding camera still, it still moves around which drives me NUTS!
Hmm what issue is that? I shook my phone around just now, and all it did was focus quickly, then stood still.
do you notice any drift when you lay the phone on a table or a cell phone mount? any other movement might be just phone trying to focus to your small hand movements.
Are you referring to the OIS, cause that's normal if so. Not an issue to my knowledge..
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Hmmm, I don't have this problem. If my hand is slightly moving the image stays relatively still, and if my hand is still the image is perfectly still.
shahsmerdis said:
Hmm what issue is that? I shook my phone around just now, and all it did was focus quickly, then stood still.
do you notice any drift when you lay the phone on a table or a cell phone mount? any other movement might be just phone trying to focus to your small hand movements.
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ticholas said:
Are you referring to the OIS, cause that's normal if so. Not an issue to my knowledge..
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I've just noticed the camera drifts even when I'm perfectly still, it may be the OIS but to me that's an issue and is ridiculously annoying as I can't zoom into anything because it just moves all over the damn place. Wonder if we can fix that somehow with root
If I'm not mistaken, OIS is controlled on the board of the camera. Due to this, there may be no way to control it. I would maybe stop into a Verizon store and play with a floor model. If the floor model doesn't exhibit this behavior than I would try to exchange your current device for a new one.
I personally do not have any issues with drift. The only I experience that floating look is when my hand is moving when trying to aim the camera.
If I rest the camera on something stationary, then zoom in fully to 8X, I will see the image move around. I don't notice it when zoomed out.
I have seen this on at least one other Verizon G4, as well.
Those who don't see the image moving around, can you reproduce it if you try it the way I described above?

Screen slightly flickers when WHITE face is displayed

Has anyone worn a bright white face here yet using WM? Every time I set a bright white face, the screen flickers a little when dim mode is active. It is so hard to see it but it's definitely there. I have troubleshot for 12+ hours and have determined that it just can't be a hardware issue because any other bright face is fine and in normal/non-dim mode, everything is perfect! Plus, when I use a chronograph with bright white dials, the flicker isn't there at all. I know one thing: I'm NOT RMA'ing this thing until the 11th month OR if ti fails, lol. Thanks in advance for your input!
Yes, I have seen this too. It only happens with a white face in dim mode.
I don't think it's a big deal as I am not sure that we should be using a white face in dim mode, as it "could" cause burn in (but not sure about that).
I have the same thing on my watch. I tought it was my Android phone at first so I did a factory reset on the watch and tried it on an iPhone 6 running iOS 9 and still saw this issue.
You can clearly see the flickering on Catchcat watchface app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dd.watchdesigner.catchcat
It's really annoying and I'm hoping there's a software fix so I don't have to return my watch.
Would this also happen on the moto 360 2nd Gen? I know the screen is not AMOLED...
Thanks guys, I was starting to think it was me since no one else saw it when I posted on G+! I'm hoping it is a software issue at this point.
Hey Jeff! Just chiming in here. Like you, I do change up my faces and have tried to troubleshoot and replicate the flicker. I think my eyes are going so I don't really notice it. Did you try using the animation boost in Watchmaker to see if that does anything? I personally think it's a refresh issue, because of the res of the Huatch, it can't handle it when going into dimmed mode. Just thinkin out loud lol.
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Hey Jeff! Just chiming in here. Like you, I do change up my faces and have tried to troubleshoot and replicate the flicker. I think my eyes are going so I don't really notice it. Did you try using the animation boost in Watchmaker to see if that does anything? I personally think it's a refresh issue, because of the res of the Huatch, it can't handle it when going into dimmed mode. Just thinkin out loud lol.
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Hey, long time to hear I definitely misunderstood you on that one...I thought you meant the bright>dim animation transitions, which I don't use. I actually didn't try the animation boost yet under settings, will try that! For the record, I still find this to be my favorite smartwatch:good:
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I have the same thing on my watch. I tought it was my Android phone at first so I did a factory reset on the watch and tried it on an iPhone 6 running iOS 9 and still saw this issue.
You can clearly see the flickering on Catchcat watchface app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dd.watchdesigner.catchcat
It's really annoying and I'm hoping there's a software fix so I don't have to return my watch.
Would this also happen on the moto 360 2nd Gen? I know the screen is not AMOLED...
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The Moto 360 2 has a very "dim" ambient mode so no, it definitely will not flicker but who cares when you can't even see it, LOL. Please let us know if you decide to return it and/or contact Huawei about this.
There is one solution that works quite well.
Place a solid black circle on the top layer (actually below the hands layer).
Make the layer dimmed only.
Use opacity to suit eg 60%.
When watch goes to dim or wakes up from dim, the flicker will be much less noticeable. 
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There is one solution that works quite well.
Place a solid black circle on the top layer (actually below the hands layer).
Make the layer dimmed only.
Use opacity to suit eg 60%.
When watch goes to dim or wakes up from dim, the flicker will be much less noticeable. 
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Nice to see you here too The flicker only occurs when a white face is sitting in dim mode. (not the transition) What's really odd is the fact I can still see the flicker after adding a circle at 80% opacity in dim only...weird issue. (almost like it cant handle any whites in dim mode/low power mode) As I mentioned on Google+ it's not a big deal, I never wear white faces. (was just testing them) Thanks anyway!
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There is one solution that works quite well.
Place a solid black circle on the top layer (actually below the hands layer).
Make the layer dimmed only.
Use opacity to suit eg 60%.
When watch goes to dim or wakes up from dim, the flicker will be much less noticeable. 
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Great, it works :good:
Great. Thanks for feedback. Cheers
My watch also flickers but only in sunlight. If I'm somewhere indoors I can barely see it but its definitely there. It also happens with black watchfaces and white numbers. Anyone with the same problem?
I know this is old post, but mine also does that. Black face with white numbers and hands. It flickers only when outside in sunlight.
So what's the solution? I modify my watchmaker face to put a black circle with an opacity on top of everything?
Again, sorry for raising a dead thread, but these are my thoughts:
I think the hwatch is just lowering the refresh rate of the screen in dim mode as to preserve battery life. Instead of running at 60hz it's probably clocking down to 30hz or something of that nature.
Just a guess.
My Huawei Watch slightly flickers when activate the dimmed mode. Only in faces with clear backgrounds
pretty sure some talanted dev can just look into the kernel/settings because its just a refresh rate setting.
I think its absolutely normal unless its literally flickering right infront of your eyes all the time...it depends when your eyes catches the screen (on a white background ) the level of degree you see it. Im sure it flickers but our eyes cant see it
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My watch has the same thing but you can see the flicker really good when using a white watchface in dim mode.
So this is "normal" and i don't have to RMA it?
Check flickering under normal light. Outside. Mike
Great "fix"
niteowl360 said:
There is one solution that works quite well.
Place a solid black circle on the top layer (actually below the hands layer).
Make the layer dimmed only.
Use opacity to suit eg 60%.
When watch goes to dim or wakes up from dim, the flicker will be much less noticeable. 
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Thanks ! That's an easy and effective fix...

General Initial impressions

Got my Sunny Yellow one delivered this morning so been playing with it most of the day. Initial impressions are very good, some are listed below. Feel free to list your own.
The fingerprint scanner was a little off but after an update came in i deleted my fingerprints and re-did them and its been fine ever since. Couple of times it hasnt worked but i think thats because the screen is so smooth/slippery that my thumb slipped on the screen as it was trying to read it.
I dont have a 5g plan or even 5g signal where i am to test but so far 4g speeds are exactly the same as my pixel 2xl and oppo reno 2 ive come from.
I dont really like having the "internet" tile, id prefer having them seperate the wifi and mobile data tab. Just seems strange to add a further click to enable/disable wifi when i want to instead of just hitting the tab.
On the home screen if you make a folder then the apps slightly overhang the edge of the circle which just looks odd to me, i wish they were all within the folder.
I wish there was an option of disabling the big clock on the lock screen. I have a picture of my partner on my lock screen and when picking up the phone id rather see her than her face covered by a huge clock
The phone got very hot when setting up and transferring apps/data from my old phone but has been fine since.
I love the screen and how smooth everything flows. I dont see any issue with brightness personally. Ill see how battery life performs over the coming days
Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
The rounded edge screen is pretty terrible. There are optical distortions along the sides. The radius of the edge should be reduced to around 1 mm.
A little more width on the screen would be nice. This is 71.5mm. Nexus 6 was 74, which was a lot nicer. 80 would be a dream.
A little bit of border around the screen would also be nice so you have somewhere to actually hold the thing. Function should be paramount, not form, and especially not goofy/ugly form like these have. A bit of border above the screen would make space to get the camera out of the screen instead of the ugly hole. I also hate the rounded corners on the screen. Software rounded corners are ok, because you can disable them, there is no reason to force it with paint on the inside surface of the glass.
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The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
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feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
Love it so far, so fast and fluid. As mentioned above it gets real hot, and was still discharging while using old pixel charger.
Camera is amazing the details captured are stunning.
Phone is very slippery to hold and would be easy to drop with the top weight of the camera hump. Tried to buy a case for grip and protection, and was told that they can until tomorrow because that was the day the phone was supposed to be delivered, but because of our crap postal service they sent a day early so that people would or should get them by that date
Real time translation works very well, even with the new update still seems a little buggy
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
I could buy pixel charger which I might take back because it doesn't seem to charge an faster.
My wireless car charger for the pixel 4xl charges this phone at about the same speed as the old wall charger, need to see if it throttles for heat though..
dimm0k said:
feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
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I agree, but it also would be heavy
This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
danw_oz said:
I agree, but it also would be heavy
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There as a day when heavy meant PREMIUM and light meant junk.
My laptop (lenovo), not even old, actually had some weights added into it to make it feel more substantial.
And so what if its a little heavier as long as it isn't burdensome. You can easily carry around several pounds without it being burdensome.
swieder711 said:
This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
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If you were referring to the rounded CORNERS, there will be kind-of software solutions for the rounded corners. Right now you can run "wm size 1440x2890" to reduce the display area (persistently). This brings the display area past the camera hole and past the rounded corners. Now normally, there would be a system property available to adjust the corners, however this one has multi-radius corners which are set in a config for systemui, therefore will actually require a rebuild from source to fix, but once that is unset, it should have square corners.
However the side effect of course, will be a slightly smaller display area. Still wider than the non-Pro, but less than it is now. Not that you need all that height for any practical purpose.
And for that matter, you could use the same "wm size" command to reduce the display width to work around the rounded edges. "wm size 1300x3120" pulls the display area all the way into the flat part and eliminates the optical distortions. You could probably establish a better balance that lets it in just a little bit and probably gives the same width as the non-Pro.
ozzjim1 said:
Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
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Nova Launcher was crashing for me but it seemed to be a clock widget I had previously and it wasn't displaying it.
I deleted the widget and rebooted the phone and it has been perfect since and all day today.
My screen now looks like my 3XL only longer, faster, smoother
I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
Thanks for the tip on Nova, might rebuild my screen from scratch with it too ID the issue. The pixel launcher without some custom apps and grid sizes is a bit of a jarring experience. Search at the bottom is all wrong too.
magooo said:
I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
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settings, display, lock screen, turn off "always show time and info"
danw_oz said:
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
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Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Have you gotten the small 70 MB Android update yet? Mine was buggy with Nova Launcher Prime, in particular, but after the update, all good.
I like the fingerprint reader better than the ultrasonic in my Note 10+. It's working much better and faster for me so far. Here's hoping that stays true.
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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id suggest resetting then. Working fine for most people
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Could you describe what you mean by "buggy as hell"?
wekebu said:
Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
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Search play for high brightness mode or HBM software by @flar2 an amazing kernal and software developer
According to Goggle I have a defective unit and they are going to swap it out

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