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So, I'm coming from an AT&T HTC One XL and I have a handful of questions. The screen and the camera on the HOXL were borderline perfection in my opinion, but the phone had a few flaws led me to an SIII.
1) The auto brightness on the SIII is laughable. The HTC One X was seamless and smooth with its auto brightness adjustment, and I never once turned auto brightness off. I have had the SIII for a day and I cannot stand it. Are there any solutions out there for the jerkiness and delay of the SIII's auto brightness function? If not, what do most of you keep your brightness at? Right now, I'm finding ~70% to be fair. Anything below that is a sacrifice and I don't do sacrifices for battery life.
2) Pentile.... I cannot stop noticing the pentile. Granted, I am coming from perfection in terms of screen quality I was hoping it wouldn't be this noticeable. To exacerbate the issue, I use my phone an awful lot as an e-reader. My eyes were playing games with me while using the Kindle App last night (same settings as One X). I kept blinking as I thought it was a result of my eyes, but it was the screen. The font simply does not have smooth, sharp edges. Will my eyes get used to this or is this going to be a constant battle?
3) I recall a setting on my GS2 where I could sync up phone call ringtone volume and notification volume when I adjusted the volume on the side of the phone. I did not find this setting on the SIII. Does one exist? I
4) One the One X, when I had headphones in, notifications and phone calls would be pumped through the headphones instead of the loudspeaker. Is there a setting I can enable where ringtone and notification tone flow through headphones when attached?
Thanks!
cfn87 said:
So, I'm coming from an AT&T HTC One XL and I have a handful of questions. The screen and the camera on the HOXL were borderline perfection in my opinion, but the phone had a few flaws led me to an SIII.
1) The auto brightness on the SIII is laughable. The HTC One X was seamless and smooth with its auto brightness adjustment, and I never once turned auto brightness off. I have had the SIII for a day and I cannot stand it. Are there any solutions out there for the jerkiness and delay of the SIII's auto brightness function? If not, what do most of you keep your brightness at? Right now, I'm finding ~70% to be fair. Anything below that is a sacrifice and I don't do sacrifices for battery life.
2) Pentile.... I cannot stop noticing the pentile. Granted, I am coming from perfection in terms of screen quality I was hoping it wouldn't be this noticeable. To exacerbate the issue, I use my phone an awful lot as an e-reader. My eyes were playing games with me while using the Kindle App last night (same settings as One X). I kept blinking as I thought it was a result of my eyes, but it was the screen. The font simply does not have smooth, sharp edges. Will my eyes get used to this or is this going to be a constant battle?
3) I recall a setting on my GS2 where I could sync up phone call ringtone volume and notification volume when I adjusted the volume on the side of the phone. I did not find this setting on the SIII. Does one exist? I
4) One the One X, when I had headphones in, notifications and phone calls would be pumped through the headphones instead of the loudspeaker. Is there a setting I can enable where ringtone and notification tone flow through headphones when attached?
Thanks!
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1- I personally use a modded auto brightness but you can probably find a app that will do a better job at it than stock firmware. I believe there are some in here as well (in the app section of XDA).
2- Never had a android that didn't have a SAMOLED screen so I don't know what difference you're talking about. Although, I use my phone quite a lot as well and my eyes don't get tired. Keep in mind that screen brightness too high = damages your eyes, too low = hard on your eyes.
3- Settings -> Sound -> Volumes -> check link volume.
4- That should be on by default. If it's not, there's either a app that changed it or you did yourself.
Btw, what firmware are you running?
BWolf56 said:
1- I personally use a modded auto brightness but you can probably find a app that will do a better job at it than stock firmware. I believe there are some in here as well (in the app section of XDA).
2- Never had a android that didn't have a SAMOLED screen so I don't know what difference you're talking about. Although, I use my phone quite a lot as well and my eyes don't get tired. Keep in mind that screen brightness too high = damages your eyes, too low = hard on your eyes.
3- Settings -> Sound -> Volumes -> check link volume.
4- That should be on by default. If it's not, there's either a app that changed it or you did yourself.
Btw, what firmware are you running?
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Thanks for the reply!
3 - Don't see this setting...
4 - Ya know what, maybe I did. The only setting I changed was unchecking "connecting earphones will enable audio applications in quick panel" in the Accessory menu as I didn't like all the apps being displayed in the notification area. I wouldn't think those are related though...
EDIT: I'm on stock ATT 4.1.1
EDIT 2: Just tried checking the box I unchecked for the audio applications and notifications still play through loudspeaker..
With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
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With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
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Saw the same thing when I launched camera app, I am on the latest update.
One difference is that I'm on auto bright and the brightness never came back
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gruuvin said:
With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
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From DisplayMate:
Since the display often uses 50 percent or more of the total Smartphone power, various display power management schemes are frequently used. The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly.From Samsung:
Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.
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From DisplayMate:
Since the display often uses 50 percent or more of the total Smartphone power, various display power management schemes are frequently used. The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly.From Samsung:
Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.
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Well, I have auto-brightness, auto adjust screen tone and power saver ALL TURNED OFF, but this 'feature' persists... and as I said, this is not just during web browsing, this is also during messaging with a 3rd party app, namely GoChat, with black background theme.... this is just not a smart feature.
maybe this is taken care of in the new update. i haven't unpacked it just yet. hoping to do that over the weekend or maybe even tonight.
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this 'feature' persists.
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What you're describing sounds like how Adapt Display is supposed to work. Does the display act any differently when you enable Adapt Display?
gruuvin said:
Well, I have auto-brightness, auto adjust screen tone and power saver ALL TURNED OFF, but this 'feature' persists... and as I said, this is not just during web browsing, this is also during messaging with a 3rd party app, namely GoChat, with black background theme.... this is just not a smart feature.
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I have the same issue. Turned everything off completely and it still happens. I posted about a week ago and some people were having the same issue.
Some people said it was adapt display on, but I have it off. Once I switched to.the CM10.1 the issue went away. I switched back to wicked Rom and I'm still getting the same problem.
Maybe a dev will eventually figure it out while building a Rom
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I have the same issue. Turned everything off completely and it still happens. I posted about a week ago and some people were having the same issue.
Some people said it was adapt display on, but I have it off. Once I switched to.the CM10.1 the issue went away. I switched back to wicked Rom and I'm still getting the same problem.
Maybe a dev will eventually figure it out while building a Rom
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It seems like this is a feature that cannot be disabled by the end user. This is from Anandtech's review
"On the brightness front, the SGS4 includes dynamic contrast functions that cannot be disabled and change as a function of what is being displayed. There's an "auto adjust screen tone" checkbox under display but don't let that fool you, that doesn't disable dynamic contrast, just white point."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/8
If it really annoys you, you can always try rooting it and install CM10. I'll be a drastic change but at least you wont have to deal with Samsung's bloat
I've seen a couple posts about delays with adaptive brightness, but this is a different item. I'm seeing that the adaptive brightness alters the brightness a little too dramatically. In a somewhat dark room (not pitch black) the brightness will be at absolute minimum even when the brightness is about 1/3 up on the slider. In a moderately bright room that same brightness setting will be near maximum.
Does anyone else notice this as an issue? I'm just wondering if it's normal (ie, software calibration issue) or if the brightness sensor might not be seated correctly.
It's normal. Or at least it sounds like it is working the same way mine is. And yes, IMO it is a little too sensitive. The Lux app works beautifully if you want an alternative. Also, the goog is known for tweaking this feature over time with updates.
I've noticed this too. The biggest thing for me is walking down the street at dusk (so not dark out yet) I can't read the screen as it turns it all the way down, then, when I walk under a street light, it turns it all the way up to full! It's one extreme or the other, there seems to be no middle ground.
In other words "adaptive brightness has mind of its own!"
This is why I have always kept this setting off. The brightness just changing on its own always annoyed me.
When it works properly (and it should) for ones uses, it's great, it's automatic, what's not to like? It's a pita to always have to change brightness manually just to see a phone display depending on ambient lighting which varies immensely for many users.
jbdan said:
When it works properly (and it should) for ones uses, it's great, it's automatic, what's not to like? It's a pita to always have to change brightness manually just to see a phone display depending on ambient lighting which varies immensely for many users.
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I agree. I have it set to maybe around 15-20% (centered over the WiFi symbol below it) and I never need to touch it. Gets dark enough for night driving and bright enough to read outside. Never found it stuck on one or the other when it shouldn't be.
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If you buy the app Lux you can customize how it adapts your brightness. The free version is good to but you have to use mostly default settings. By default it only adapts brightness when the screen turns on.
You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the OnePlus 3T's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
i feel that they need to dim it more, it's still annoying
One thing I noticed is that the phone offers EXTREME fine tune-ing of the lower brightness end.....when I adjust the adaptive brightness, if I click and drag the setting towards the bottom end, there is tons of adjustability available to the user to find exactly how much brightness you want. Having said that, the lowest settings appears quite dim to me (but not 'dangerously' dim)
The lowest setting for me seems to be extremely bright still, for night usage at least. Every other phone I've used has been able to get far more dim.
Anyone know of any way to lower it further actually?
Chipaton said:
The lowest setting for me seems to be extremely bright still, for night usage at least. Every other phone I've used has been able to get far more dim.
Anyone know of any way to lower it further actually?
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root it and with the help of xposed (or without) you can edit the parameters to make it even dimmer.
vikingsail said:
root it and with the help of xposed (or without) you can edit the parameters to make it even dimmer.
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What do I edit? I'm rooted with Xposed.
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What do I edit? I'm rooted with Xposed.
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check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367412
This phone is love
OnePlus 3T is just an amazing phone, I loved it
Got the device for a few weeks and there are already burn ins on the left side
If you don't want the hassle of rooting and running xposed you could just install an app from play store, I use lower brightness by Nu-Kob, nothing fancy but it does the job
I'm using rr with magisk (if any of that even matters when it comes to brightness). When the lights are off and I have the brightness all the way up I can barely look at it. But when I turn the brightness all the way down with the lights off it is perfect and I can see everything very clearly and my girlfriend or has an s6 and she is always jealous that when she turns her brightness down it's still blinding. So I think it's great.
Try Velis Auto Brightness https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.velis.auto.brightness&hl=en
no ads and it works great, tons of parameter to adjust as well.
At night, the brightness is way too much. Observing the display, f.e. playing PoGo in a park at night, you almost get night blind. If you switch automatic brightness off, there is one more step down, but this one is way too dark and without any contrast. Compared to my previous device, it's really bad. I hope, it gets fixed, if possible by the hardware at all.
I also think that the minimum brightness is not dim enough.
I rectify this using an app called Twilight - no root required - which allows to dim + apply red filter
It's usually okay for me, however I use Dimly if I need to go even lower.
I tried NoLED but the immersive mode only last half a minute or so (tried tasker setting immersive mode to hide both when display is on ) and im afraid of battery drain and burn in.
tried glimpse notifications and ambi tuner with little luck (was trying to get pulsing ambient display when having a notification, otherwise off), but pulsing didnt work
what i have settled for so far is using secure settings and tasker to turn on always on display when i have a notification and turn off always on display when i remove a notification. its called doze_always_on in tasker>plugins.>secure settings>device setting (paywall)>system table>secure list>doze_always_on. where 0 is off and 1 is on. I had to set the wake screen up for notifications setting on for this to work.
here is a video jon2jay made of another method of using tasker without need of secure settings (watch in silent): https://ufile.io/fv287
if someone has a better idea that woudl be great. i was thinking about using the notches as notification leds, when you can switch between colors for different app notifications, and even use different "ears" of the notch. the dev of ambi tuner says hes working on pixel 3 xl compatibility.
looks like samsung pie has colored notificaitons on their ambient display. would love that, if it was only on when notifications were there.
Lack of Led alternative
Coming from the original Pixel, I too can't get used to not having an led. I have been using LED Blinker pro with acceptable success. Many customization options. Test mode does not seem to work, but the app works flawlessly.
With all the supposed focus on digital well-being, eliminating the notification LED was a really poor choice. Now we're forced to pick up the damn phone to see what a notification is. I'm going to have to try out some of the options you guys mentioned.
An app that makes a color near the notch would be great, you know something similar to the battery color around the notch. This on AOD would kinda replace the need for the LED...
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dipstik said:
I tried NoLED but the immersive mode only last half a minute or so (tried tasker setting immersive mode to hide both when display is on ) and im afraid of battery drain and burn in.
tried glimpse notifications and ambi tuner with little luck (was trying to get pulsing ambient display when having a notification, otherwise off), but pulsing didnt work
what i have settled for so far is using secure settings and tasker to turn on always on display when i have a notification and turn off always on display when i remove a notification. its called doze_always_on in tasker>plugins.>secure settings>device setting (paywall)>system table>secure list>doze_always_on. where 0 is off and 1 is on. I had to set the wake screen up for notifications setting on for this to work.
if someone has a better idea that woudl be great. i was thinking about using the notches as notification leds, when you can switch between colors for different app notifications, and even use different "ears" of the notch. the dev of ambi tuner says hes working on pixel 3 xl compatibility.
looks like samsung pie has colored notificaitons on their ambient display. would love that, if it was only on when notifications were there.
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I wish google could read this. No one should have to bend over backwards and jump through hoops to enable something as simple as a stupid blinking light! Google failed us so hard by removing the LED.
Now, I can't even tell if my phone is charging without waking the screen. Worse, I have no clue if the battery is low and need to charge without also waking the screen. No clue if I missed a call, or a calendar event... NOTHING! unless I turn on the screen. I shouldn't have to actively interact with my phone to get passive information. If I wanted that, I would have purchased an iPhone.
Doesn't bother me, I've had phones with and without LED. My life hasn't changed
Time to fix that LED
PuffDaddy_d said:
I wish google could read this. No one should have to bend over backwards and jump through hoops to enable something as simple as a stupid blinking light! Google failed us so hard by removing the LED.
Now, I can't even tell if my phone is charging without waking the screen. Worse, I have no clue if the battery is low and need to charge without also waking the screen. No clue if I missed a call, or a calendar event... NOTHING! unless I turn on the screen. I shouldn't have to actively interact with my phone to get passive information. If I wanted that, I would have purchased an iPhone.
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Hey. I love to develop and will make this my mission. Since the display is an OLED wich make it possible to turn on and off idividual pixels this should not be that hard. Keep you updated.
I hate not having an LED. Turning the display on to simply check for notifications is becoming aggravating.
Someone please come up with something.
deepsurge said:
Hey. I love to develop and will make this my mission. Since the display is an OLED wich make it possible to turn on and off idividual pixels this should not be that hard. Keep you updated.
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So there are some apps that already do this; however, they all struggle to play nicely with the default lock screen. If you can get around this limitation, I would gladly make a financial contribution.
Haven't missed it one bit. I use the AOD though. If I didn't, I would definitely want the LED.
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So there are some apps that already do this; however, they all struggle to play nicely with the default lock screen. If you can get around this limitation, I would gladly make a financial contribution.
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I will look in to this, as an old embedded engineer i will try to solve this, i love a challange.
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I will look in to this, as an old embedded engineer i will try to solve this, i love a challange.
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PM me if you need a beta tester
Or some app that would show the Notification Icon on the top of the screen. Just the icon blinking on the all black OLED screen.
I think Samsung's implementation is cool. It takes the colors from the app and uses that as the icon on the screen. Being able to customize that even further would be awesome. Like make all unimportant white and urgent ones red.
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Or some app that would show the Notification Icon on the top of the screen. Just the icon blinking on the all black OLED screen.
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Those apps exist. They just don't play nicely with the lock screen.
killakarl said:
I think Samsung's implementation is cool. It takes the colors from the app and uses that as the icon on the screen. Being able to customize that even further would be awesome. Like make all unimportant white and urgent ones red.
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When I initially receive a notification with the AOD on, the icon is colored like that. For Textra it colors the icon the color of the conversation, which is neat. I can tell at a glance who messaged me. For Facebook the icon is blue, Gmail is red, etc.
When the notification goes away and the AOD has the normal display of clock and the icons, it's all that muted shade of gray/white
Hooray!
I am glad this was pointed out, I always found the notification LED on my old Samsung to be mildly annoying but not worth the effort to completely disable. I am glad this phone doesn't have one, easy enough to tap the screen to see what apps the notifications are from and expand if needed. The blinking light was irritating when sleeping or in a dark room. Thanks for pointing this out, one more reason I love my new Pixel 3 XL :laugh:
dipstik said:
I tried NoLED but the immersive mode only last half a minute or so (tried tasker setting immersive mode to hide both when display is on ) and im afraid of battery drain and burn in.
tried glimpse notifications and ambi tuner with little luck (was trying to get pulsing ambient display when having a notification, otherwise off), but pulsing didnt work
what i have settled for so far is using secure settings and tasker to turn on always on display when i have a notification and turn off always on display when i remove a notification. its called doze_always_on in tasker>plugins.>secure settings>device setting (paywall)>system table>secure list>doze_always_on. where 0 is off and 1 is on. I had to set the wake screen up for notifications setting on for this to work.
if someone has a better idea that woudl be great. i was thinking about using the notches as notification leds, when you can switch between colors for different app notifications, and even use different "ears" of the notch. the dev of ambi tuner says hes working on pixel 3 xl compatibility.
looks like samsung pie has colored notificaitons on their ambient display. would love that, if it was only on when notifications were there.
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Hey could you please share your tasker profiles? I think that you are having 2 different profiles right? I'm trying to do the same but can't seem to find the doze always on in secure settings :S
This would do until someone manages to customize the ambient or make an app that makes something blink or i dunno what
I've just created an app called Pixel Pulse. I could use some testers if anyone is willing to give it a try. You can select the apps you want to have the app pulse your Ambient Display. There's paid customization for icons and colors but the core functionality of the app is free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.pixelpulse
If you had previously purchased Ambi-Turner, it has been updated for the new permissions, but because it was written for 8.0 and when Google's ambient display worked differently I decided to leave it as it is. You may however transfer your purchase status of Ambient Display to Pixel Pulse using both apps.
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I've just created an app called Pixel Pulse. I could use some testers if anyone is willing to give it a try. You can select the apps you want to have the app pulse your Ambient Display. There's paid customization for icons and colors but the core functionality of the app is free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.pixelpulse
If you had previously purchased Ambi-Turner, it has been updated for the new permissions, but because it was written for 8.0 and when Google's ambient display worked differently I decided to leave it as it is. You may however transfer your purchase status of Ambient Display to Pixel Pulse using both apps.
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Thanks. If I understand correctly, Pixel Pulse works alongside Ambient Display? It appears that PP adds the pulse customization that AD does not have?