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[Q] Will be supported over time?

I bought this tablet with pleasure last week, and I saw how much "ROM" There are, in fact there are many!
I wanted to know, according to you in a year or two, the situation will be like? If there is any developer who reads these lines, what do you think? Svilupperesti for another year from now or hope for him?
Little Offtopic: I paid it € 215, is a good price?

xphone1 said:
I bought this tablet with pleasure last week, and I saw how much "ROM" There are, in fact there are many!
I wanted to know, according to you in a year or two, the situation will be like? If there is any developer who reads these lines, what do you think? Svilupperesti for another year from now or hope for him?
Little Offtopic: I paid it € 215, is a good price?
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Great price!
I'm not a developer, but I hope they'll continue to support this device for 1-2 mire years until it becomes obsolete.
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Please contact LG if you own the tablet and ask them about Android L support. I have already done so and they only could say "no decision has been made at this time". The more of us that contact them and ask the question the better chance we have of seeing an Android L release of the stock software.

muiriddin said:
Please contact LG if you own the tablet and ask them about Android L support. I have already done so and they only could say "no decision has been made at this time". The more of us that contact them and ask the question the better chance we have of seeing an Android L release of the stock software.
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haha.. I actually work in the same business complex as LG (Englewood Cliff). I wonder if they'll take me lightly if I go there demanding android L. :laugh:

NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
haha.. I actually work in the same business complex as LG (Englewood Cliff). I wonder if they'll take me lightly if I go there demanding android L. :laugh:
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Just tell them you represent XDA!

When I was contacting LG support for SD card bug, I asked if they are planning for android L, their response was that they will patch SD bug, but do not plan to upgrade android version...but who knows, we must believe. And if not, custom ROM will work

The Google Play Edition will ( or should) be upgraded, as the upgrade will fall into the respective timeframe that they allow for the support of gpe devices. Guess we'll see.

re: contacting LG
galaxys said:
Just tell them you represent XDA!
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Do it for the team!
Seriously, though, while I think it's a must to nag LG about continuing support, I'm not sure there's enough of a user community to get LG's attention, unless their past track record of updates has changed . . . .

Okay, thanks to all for replies..
About unofficial rom what do you think?
Ps:I have send an email to LG for official update, but the reply is a standard "we don't know".

How much does it take?

So I have stumbled upon a problem with rooting/unlocking the boot loader for the Verizon variant of the mot z play. I've seen posts and other tutorials asking for a solution. But I see a similar reply to those questions: that it isn't going to happen due to the lack of dev support. So I am creating this thread to ask the developers what we (the ones who want root for moto z play Verizon) can do to get their full attention on, not just the moto z play, but all Verizon variants. So Devs What do you want? and Owners, What can you give?

zen_hakuren said:
So I have stumbled upon a problem with rooting/unlocking the boot loader for the Verizon variant of the mot z play. I've seen posts and other tutorials asking for a solution. But I see a similar reply to those questions: that it isn't going to happen due to the lack of dev support. So I am creating this thread to ask the developers what we (the ones who want root for moto z play Verizon) can do to get their full attention on, not just the moto z play, but all Verizon variants. So Devs What do you want? and Owners, What can you give?
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Probably easier to find a unicorn in the wild...

dandrumheller said:
Probably easier to find a unicorn in the wild...
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Maybe but one can try to find one. And with luck catch it.

From what I understand, Verizon bootloaders are not unlockable. They have only seen to gotten more strict with this over time. I would recommend getting a non-verizon or att variant of every phone in the future.

"Not Unlock-able" is not in the vocabulary of the hacking world. I know someone some where can crack the boot-loader its only a matter of time and effort. Anything can be cracked.

zen_hakuren said:
"Not Unlock-able" is not in the vocabulary of the hacking world. I know someone some where can crack the boot-loader its only a matter of time and effort. Anything can be cracked.
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In a theoretical sense that's likely true. But it may require more time, money and resources than are available to the Devs on XDA. I think the point is, if you buy a locked Verizon or AT&T device, don't count on an unlock ever being available, especially if you aren't paying the salary of the guy working on it.

dandrumheller said:
In a theoretical sense that's likely true. But it may require more time, money and resources than are available to the Devs on XDA. I think the point is, if you buy a locked Verizon or AT&T device, don't count on an unlock ever being available, especially if you aren't paying the salary of the guy working on it.
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If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.

zen_hakuren said:
If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.
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Lol, I'll be happy to take on the task for $100k/year plus hardware expenses and health bennies. No guarantee of success though.

zen_hakuren said:
If I can get someone or a group to do it I wouldn't mind paying.
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If you are that head strong, learn and do it your self, or change carriers and phone. I let you guess which would be easier and cheaper....

Jimi Mack said:
If you are that head strong, learn and do it your self, or change carriers and phone. I let you guess which would be easier and cheaper....
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But who to learn from and what kind of coding... Linux?

zen_hakuren said:
But who to learn from and what kind of coding... Linux?
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Once again I remind people... Google is your friend.

Jimi Mack said:
Once again I remind people... Google is your friend.
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True...but talking to someone who is knowledgeable rather than a search engine may be more effective and efficient. And this seems to be one of the best places to find someone like that.

dandrumheller said:
Lol, I'll be happy to take on the task for $100k/year plus hardware expenses and health bennies. No guarantee of success though.
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One bootloader crack is not nearly worth that.$300 starting and 20 more weekly with prove of improvement​/work per bootloader unlock per phone.

zen_hakuren said:
One bootloader crack is not nearly worth that.$300 starting and 20 more weekly with prove of improvement​/work per bootloader unlock per phone.
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Heh heh, my time is worth way more than that to other people, as is the time of most people who are likely capable of actually succeeding. I'm likely not actually capable.
Guess you better start learning.

zen_hakuren said:
True...but talking to someone who is knowledgeable rather than a search engine may be more effective and efficient. And this seems to be one of the best places to find someone like that.
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I call it the lazy y way... and it is not efficient or effective. Everyone else has already come to terms it will not be done.

Jimi Mack said:
I call it the lazy y way... and it is not efficient or effective. Everyone else has already come to terms it will not be done.
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Everyone else is not me...
6th line:
" I will never quit"

zen_hakuren said:
Everyone else is not me...
6th line:
" I will never quit"
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Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.

Jimi Mack said:
Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.
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I will thx!

Jimi Mack said:
Good for you, you have a lot of learning to do... have fun.
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Also if I find a solution I'll post it!

zen_hakuren said:
Also if I find a solution I'll post it!
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We look forward to seeing you part the Red Sea.
Now please stop talking about it and actually do it.

Should i buy 7X?

Dear Fellow XDA Members,
My phone is old so i was thinking about buying Honor 7X or Redmi 5 Plus, which one you recommend guys? i am all about root, future developments and some good camera so help me choose the better one accordingly.
Thank You,

ecrudragon said:
Dear Fellow XDA Members,
My phone is old so i was thinking about buying Honor 7X or Redmi 5 Plus, which one you recommend guys? i am all about root, future developments and some good camera so help me choose the better one accordingly.
Thank You,
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For getting ur answer u need to wait untill Redmi 5 Plus release... .

Development?! Take the RedMi

Rajeev said:
For getting ur answer u need to wait untill Redmi 5 Plus release... .
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Sure, i will wait for Redmi 5 Plus official release what is your take on Honor 7X?

ecrudragon said:
Sure, i will wait for Redmi 5 Plus official release what is your take on Honor 7X?
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My Honor 7x will come today.. My situation is different here. I don't have any other choice. So buying 7x..
My wife using Honor 6x. So i already know about UI and OS.
Development will take some time here. Kennel sources are already out..
I will give some detailed review after i get my 7x

Rajeev said:
My Honor 7x will come today.. My situation is different here. I don't have any other choice. So buying 7x..
My wife using Honor 6x. So i already know about UI and OS.
Development will take some time here. Kennel sources are already out..
I will give some detailed review after i get my 7x
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Well noted with thanks

Rajeev said:
My Honor 7x will come today.. My situation is different here. I don't have any other choice. So buying 7x..
My wife using Honor 6x. So i already know about UI and OS.
Development will take some time here. Kennel sources are already out..
I will give some detailed review after i get my 7x
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My guess that the Redmi will be absolutely better in terms of community development

PalakMi said:
My guess that the Redmi will be absolutely better in terms of community development
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It probably is, it's also not very expensive, same as the honor 7x

Jan.Pul said:
It probably is, it's also not very expensive, same as the honor 7x
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It is said to be very affordable

PalakMi said:
It is said to be very affordable
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It is, look it up on AliExpress xiaomi official store, it's only a little more than €200, the 4gb + 64gb model

Jan.Pul said:
It is, look it up on AliExpress xiaomi official store, it's only a little more than €200, the 4gb + 64gb model
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Definitely cheaper

PalakMi said:
Definitely cheaper
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Okay but I got a question to y'all, I bought a honor 7x from official store on AliExpress, they should have shipped it in 48 hours but they didn't, reasons to worry?

Jan.Pul said:
Okay but I got a question to y'all, I bought a honor 7x from official store on AliExpress, they should have shipped it in 48 hours but they didn't, reasons to worry?
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I ordered a 7x last week from the Huawei Honor website, the tentative ship date that they said was 12/15 so I don't know if AliExpress can start shipping prior to that?

zole2112 said:
I ordered a 7x last week from the Huawei Honor website, the tentative ship date that they said was 12/15 so I don't know if AliExpress can start shipping prior to that?
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It wasn't a pre-registration 11 people already received the phone with photo's to back it up

Jan.Pul said:
Okay but I got a question to y'all, I bought a honor 7x from official store on AliExpress, they should have shipped it in 48 hours but they didn't, reasons to worry?
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I've never bought through Chinese retailers

sure

Got my Honor 7X, love the phone.
as far as development is concerned it all depends on how many devs it attracts and since XDA is getting sponsorship from them then i think it will be a magnet for devs.
also throw me any questions about the phone.. would love to answer more..

sid21 said:
Got my Honor 7X, love the phone.
as far as development is concerned it all depends on how many devs it attracts and since XDA is getting sponsorship from them then i think it will be a magnet for devs.
also throw me any questions about the phone.. would love to answer more..
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Treble should come with Oreo, at least AOSP will be available

PalakMi said:
Treble should come with Oreo, at least AOSP will be available
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Project Treble is not entirely dependent on android 8
though i know even google claims that treble is supported on 8.0 onwards
but as far as we know :
For those of you who have followed the custom ROM scene for years, you might already be aware with how significant this news is. XDA Recognized Developer OldDroid called this revelation a “breakthrough” in custom AOSP ROM development. Thanks to Project Treble support, for example, I was able to boot a nearly fully functioning Android 8.0 Oreo ROM on the Huawei Mate 9—a device that until now hadn’t even seen a single AOSP Android Nougat ROM.
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so a (partial working) oreo build was compiled for a phone which didnt even see Nougat release.. its all on the partition and devs going forward with excitement leading to better support and faster releases..

sid21 said:
Project Treble is not entirely dependent on android 8
though i know even google claims that treble is supported on 8.0 onwards
but as far as we know :
so a (partial working) oreo build was compiled for a phone which didnt even see Nougat release.. its all on the partition and devs going forward with excitement leading to better support and faster releases..
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You are right

Moto G5 Plus now receiving Android 8.1 Oreo Soak Test

Happy news . Motorola has started rolling out the latest update to its soak test users in Brazil and few other countries. :fingers-crossed: :highfive: Thanks to Techdroider

navaneethkom said:
Happy news . Motorola has started rolling out the latest update to its soak test users in Brazil and few other countries. :fingers-crossed: :highfive: Thanks to Techdroider
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Hope for India soon

irfanalinawaz said:
Hope for India soon
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hope someone will make a flashable zip of soak test soon:victory:

Better late than never but we are already using android p and only ****ed up thing for now is camera.
But good news for the people who are on stock. Hope to see stable release soon.

Wtf this is for onlybrazil not for others what the hell wait for 1 to 2 month more...m using p n m very happyso no need for oreo now

navaneethkom said:
hope someone will make a flashable zip of soak test soon:victory:
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That would be really cool! Even if it's only a soak test.

Yawn! Color me totally underwhelmed.

People have to keep in mind that devs need the official oreo to fix bugs and other stuff in oreo roms for our Potter. Some might not care and I get that, but we still need the stock oreo rom.

Is it 64 or 32 bits?

FabricioGS said:
Is it 64 or 32 bits?
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Pretty sure it's gonna be 32bit

is it stable? any bugs?

psychopac said:
Pretty sure it's gonna be 32bit
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That's sucks. But I think the devs will still be able to use the future source code to use it on 64 roms, right?

navaneethkom said:
Happy news . Motorola has started rolling out the latest update to its soak test users in Brazil and few other countries. :fingers-crossed: :highfive: Thanks to Techdroider
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Kernel version though..

sinchan_nohara said:
Kernel version though..
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What's up with the kernel version? Sure, it's not the newest update at 3.18.71, though apparently this is to ensure Qualcomm and other driver providers can keep supporting the chips. I'm hoping that Treble can make this simpler for those devices with native Treble support...
Rebasing to a new kernel version during an upgrade is tricky. QCOM and other chipset vendors tend to stick with a particular kernel version for the lifetime of a chipset family, and just backport the desirable features and fixes. If we move the kernel "ahead" of our chipset vendor then they have a much harder time supporting us. Since we try to get the upgrades out as quickly as possible, we stay aligned with the chipset vendor's kernel as much a possible.
I suspect that Google will continue to pressure chipset vendors to keep their kernels up-to-date, so maybe we will see some changes in 2018. We will also ask Google to consider a kernel update as a "security update" rather than an a full-fledged upgrade. This removes a number of barriers to getting new kernels into the handsets of consumers as quickly as possible.
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Credit to https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/issues/137
EDIT - mangled the quote tags...

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Any news of the soak test invitation in India.

amitinder11 said:
Any news of the soak test invitation in India.
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No, I already registerd for MFN long time ago but I didn't recieved any invitation.

amitinder11 said:
Any news of the soak test invitation in India.
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No need to ask everyday, if someone get's an invite he will post it. I'm registered for MFN since 2014, it's not a guarantee you'll be invited.
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Is it treble enabled ??

I'm surprised that no one from Brazil has captured the OTA yet

Mate 20X - Should I Keep It or Return It?

Wanted to know if you guys think the mate 20x is future proof with security updates and emui updates. I ask cuz I'm torn between keeping it or refunding it and staying with my samsung a70. Would greatly appreciate your answers as to either keep it or return it. Thanks guys.
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deloj said:
Wanted to know if you guys think the mate 20x is future proof with security updates and emui updates. I ask cuz I'm torn between keeping it or refunding it and staying with my samsung a70. Would greatly appreciate your answers as to either keep it or return it. Thanks guys.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/help/how-long-security-updates-provided-t3973937

mwatson said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/help/how-long-security-updates-provided-t3973937
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That was lame. You shouldve come up with something better than that

deloj said:
That was lame. You shouldve come up with something better than that
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Idiot. Its a thread discussing your question. Try searching the forums first .

mwatson said:
Idiot. Its a thread discussing your question. Try searching the forums first .
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Virgin moron I already looked at the thread. Be smart next time troll.

If you live in fear, return the phone. For the rest of us, we'll be fine.

elcidroyale said:
If you live in fear, return the phone. For the rest of us, we'll be fine.
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If you love denial keep the phone. Smart guys wont use outdated phones