WiFi strength, range, and throughput

WiFi strength, range, and throughput - Maze Alpha Real Life Review

Rate this thread to express how you think the Maze Alpha's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?
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wiFi very weak
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Maze Alpha's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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It's the worst wiFi I've ever seen on a cell phone. I have a good router (at least I think). A tp-link Archer C20, which covers my entire home. With the Maze Alpha you disconnect a distance of 5 meters onwards. In the 5GHz band it just does not stay connected.

Bad bad Wi-Fi! It remains connected, but frequently Internet is not available: so I disable/enable the Wi-Fi button, and Internet came back.
It sounds like it always lose the DNS.

vgiuseppe77 said:
Bad bad Wi-Fi! It remains connected, but frequently Internet is not available: so I disable/enable the Wi-Fi button, and Internet came back.
It sounds like it always lose the DNS.
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Have you applied update version 07?

pja1985430 said:
Have you applied update version 07?
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It's really bad. Disappointing...

Not very good wifi range indeed. I hope the next update will fix it ! (if it's not material of course)

pja1985430 said:
Have you applied update version 07?
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Yes, my firmware is:
MAZE_Alpha_V07_20171016_20171017-1809

vgiuseppe77 said:
Yes, my firmware is:
MAZE_Alpha_V07_20171016_20171017-1809
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Mine works very well to over a range of 10 meters.

pja1985430 said:
Mine works very well to over a range of 10 meters.
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Same here. Got mine yesterday and I am wondering the bad comments. Wifi is not top top, but I have seen some other expensive devices that have much worse wifi.

My pc and phone are both same distance from the router and my phone has a better connection than my wifi dongle. Also, when I visit the regular haunts where I would fight for wifi on some phones, this phone is exceptionally better. I'm not sure why others are having problems but in my experience of different phones over the years, this phone is pretty good for me.
Currently, it's making its way up stairs, round a corner and through a corridor to my room which is connected ok, not 100% stable but until I moved my pc (netgear) wifi adaptor closer with a usb extension, it was a stronger connection, my phone if probably 5ft further away from the dongle and showing half signal while my dongle is now showing full. If I put my phone there, it goes full.
Don't forget there are other issues that mess with signals, other signals mostly.
I would suggest starting right next to whatever is broadcasting and then take a walk in varying directions and ascertaining what other signals could be messing with it.

codQuore said:
My pc and phone are both same distance from the router and my phone has a better connection than my wifi dongle. Also, when I visit the regular haunts where I would fight for wifi on some phones, this phone is exceptionally better. I'm not sure why others are having problems but in my experience of different phones over the years, this phone is pretty good for me.
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I would suggest starting right next to whatever is broadcasting and then take a walk in varying directions and ascertaining what other signals could be messing with it.
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Correct, I'm going to make a general post with my experience after day 2. I have enough technical background and experience.

Solved!
Hi,
I solved the issue! I've noticed that in office, with ad old access point, my Maze Alpha works well. And, I read that some of you have no problem with Wi-Fi. So, I thought... maybe the problem is the 5GHz?
So, I disabled it, and now the Wi-Fi works well.
Before, I had many problems standing 1 meter from access point, and in another room the Wi-Fi was unusable.

How did you turn off
vgiuseppe77 said:
Hi,
I solved the issue! I've noticed that in office, with ad old access point, my Maze Alpha works well. And, I read that some of you have no problem with Wi-Fi. So, I thought... maybe the problem is the 5GHz?
So, I disabled it, and now the Wi-Fi works well.
Before, I had many problems standing 1 meter from access point, and in another room the Wi-Fi was unusable.
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How did you turn off 5GHz?

Andre43-BR said:
How did you turn off 5GHz?
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I've turned off it on my access point. On the Maze Alpha I didn't find how to turn off.

Thanks.

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[Q] Solutions for OUYA's weak wifi?

Got mine yesterday. Biggest complaint is the wireless receiver is pretty weak. I had the OUYA upstairs where my phone, laptop, and ATV2 all got a strong wifi connection. However, the OUYA kept dropping the connection every few minutes. I had to move it downstairs, in the same room as the router.
Has anyone found any solutions for increasing the OUYA's wifi range?

noticed the same thing about weak wifi signal...wonder if it's a hardware design issue or a driver issue.

Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. I actually have to AP's - a netgear router in my outside office where my cable comes in and then a WRT-54g setup as a repeater to serve my house. My TV, Living room PC, Wii, tablet, and phones all get a great signal off the WRT and the Ouya even reports it as a good signal - but refuses to connect sometimes and drops the connection all the time. Oddly enough the Ouya has an easier time connecting to my netgear router even though it shows a "fair" signal at best. So I'm thinking maybe the Ouya is just kind of picky about what it likes to connect to. But I also usually see at least 6 AP's in my living room and the Ouya only picks up my 2 - so it does seem to have weak reception.
Thinking I'm going to reconfigure my network this weekend. I've been working from my official office more lately and don't use my outside office much at all anymore so I'm probably going to reverse things and put the router in the living room so the devices in there can be hardwired and the office will run off of WiFi now instead. Been thinking about doing it for awhile the Ouya is just the final straw.
One thing I've considered doing is using the Ouya out of it's case to see if that improves it's reception any, it's really easy to remove from the case (4 hex screws on top then the board just pulls out with a gentle tug - but be careful not to get the grounding clip caught on the lip the lid fits into) and with the case being aluminum it could potentially be attenuating the signal. Since they released design files for the case if running it out of the case helps it wouldn't be that hard to get a plastic case made for it...but I'd hate to have to go that route just on principal.
For whatever reason I did have better luck getting the Wifi to connect when I went into Mange->Settings->Advanced->Wifi and used the unskinned android settings menu to setup my wifi. using the Ouya's menus I was never able to get it to connect to my WRT repeater. But using the stock settings I was. Not sure why that should matter but there it is.

I think it is a driver issue. Install speed test and seer what results you get. I get higher upload speeds than download speeds and using Ethernet it ifs no where near where it should be. Not enough off an improvement to make connecting it worthwhile.
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Someone else posted somewhere, that they turned off ethernet once they had wifi connected, then hard reset the Ouya, and it sped up the wifi connection. I can confirm this for myself as I tested a file transfer through ES File Explorer and it jumped from 3 kbps to 45 kbps. Still a lot slower than my other wifi devices in the same room, but at least it became usable.
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tetchystar said:
Someone else posted somewhere, that they turned off ethernet once they had wifi connected, then hard reset the Ouya, and it sped up the wifi connection. I can confirm this for myself as I tested a file transfer through ES File Explorer and it jumped from 3 kbps to 45 kbps. Still a lot slower than my other wifi devices in the same room, but at least it became usable.
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Hard reset as in simply pressing the power button, or by disconnecting power?

elmerohueso said:
Hard reset as in simply pressing the power button, or by disconnecting power?
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Try just rebooting (hold power for a second and select power off). It's never a good idea to just pull the plug.
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elmerohueso said:
Hard reset as in simply pressing the power button, or by disconnecting power?
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mybook4 said:
Try just rebooting (hold power for a second and select power off). It's never a good idea to just pull the plug.
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Yep this.

Didn't really have enough difference for me. Range and speed are still flaky if I'm more than 20 feet from the router.
I'm still waiting for OUYA to recognize this as a problem, and hopefully put a stronger wifi chip in for retail. OUYA support has told me that weak wifi on the OUYA is not a widespread issue, so seems like they just want to deny the problem.
They either need to:
Increase the power to the wifi chip
Use a better wifi chip
Use a wifi chip that can utilize a wire antenna for better range
Build in drivers for some external wifi adapters
Sucks that I'll have to get an wifi repeater, wifi bridge, or something else to get the OUYA working in a room where my laptop, ATV2, phone, and tablets all work fine.

Mine dropped out completely when I tried to login for the first time after updating, had to turn the Wi-Fi on/off a few times to get it to work... and it's sitting 20cm from the router!
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Yes, mine is extremely flaky still as well. So far I'm pretty frustrated with the problems that are arising with Ouya, which is too bad, because I actually really really like it should far. I honestly wish I'd waited until retail now, because I would have had a better/more finished product for less money and hassle.
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Didn't really have enough difference for me. Range and speed are still flaky if I'm more than 20 feet from the router.
I'm still waiting for OUYA to recognize this as a problem, and hopefully put a stronger wifi chip in for retail. OUYA support has told me that weak wifi on the OUYA is not a widespread issue, so seems like they just want to deny the problem.
They either need to:
Increase the power to the wifi chip
Use a better wifi chip
Use a wifi chip that can utilize a wire antenna for better range
Build in drivers for some external wifi adapters
Sucks that I'll have to get an wifi repeater, wifi bridge, or something else to get the OUYA working in a room where my laptop, ATV2, phone, and tablets all work fine.
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Is anyone still experiencing Wifi problems? I just got mine hooked up today and had a ton of problems until I updated the software and reset, have not had a single connection issue since.

JLCollier2005 said:
Is anyone still experiencing Wifi problems? I just got mine hooked up today and had a ton of problems until I updated the software and reset, have not had a single connection issue since.
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No. Mine worked out of box. I have an Ouya1-b

I have experienced zero issues, but I have an enterprise class dedicated wireless access point (a Ubiquiti Networks Unifi AP if you're curious), so I get full bars everywhere in my apartment and coverage like 20 feet out into the parking lot outside my apartment.
Since I also have a gigbit network everywhere in my apartment, I have generally just been disabling the WiFi.
One sort of issue I have noticed with the networking on the Ouya is that Android was built to allow for multiple network interfaces, which is only natural given that pretty much every smartphone has WiFi and also some sort of "mobile" data as well. Turning off the WiFi doesn't seem to always "stick" for whatever reason, so I may end up just "forgetting" my normal WiFi network in the network settings to prevent the WiFi from being used.
I have been toying with the idea of taking the Ouya mobo out of the aluminum casing, as its trivial to do and many people have speculated that the case is causing BlueTooth and WiFi signal issues. I HAVE experienced some weak connectivity to the controllers, and wanted to isolate the issue to either the controller or the console.

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I have been toying with the idea of taking the Ouya mobo out of the aluminum casing, as its trivial to do and many people have speculated that the case is causing BlueTooth and WiFi signal issues. I HAVE experienced some weak connectivity to the controllers, and wanted to isolate the issue to either the controller or the console.
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I tried taking it out of its case, and it didn't have any noticeable impact on my WiFi.

what about Bluetooth? Thats the thing that would effect the controllers, which are the element which is having a reception problem...

elmerohueso said:
I tried taking it out of its case, and it didn't have any noticeable impact on my WiFi.
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I didn't know the case was aluminum. Seems kind of odd choice of material. The Ouya isn't handled much, so there's no tactile advantage to using aluminum. The Ouya has a cooling fan, so heat dispersion isn't a huge issue if they chose plastic instead of aluminum.
What's the wired network speeds like? Can anyone test it?

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What's the wired network speeds like? Can anyone test it?
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Since switching to Ethernet (and turning off WiFi) things go much faster. Streams 1080p movies without an issue, and game downloads are pretty fast. Thumbnail loading on the OUYA menus still could be faster, but I think that's more of a firmware issue with the way those are handled, rather than internet speed.

i think the worst part is that they refuse to fix anything or acknowledge the issue. This topic is covered on several other websites, even their own support website. Ouya seems to keep saying this isn't a global issues. so does that mean in the future if we are having other issues they have to be global in order to be fixed or updated?
This seems crazy. i have 4 devices right next to the ouya and my ouya download speeds are less than 107 kbs, but all my other devices are between 5-10 mbs.
i tried to erase everything, reboot it, and now i cant even connect and maintain a wifi connection and get past the ouya upgrade page on set up. It says im connected, then timesout and says i have no wifi.
and to make matters worse im not really close to a ethernet connection, my router is upstairs and my tv is downstairs.
This just seems crazy that a company could releases a product in such an alpha stage and not take the people who helped make them successful seriously.

I've seen speeds of nearly 2-3mbps on my Ouya, which is consistent with my Nexus 10, laptop, and others (no way to install steam to see if Ic an get Steam's stupid 7mbps...)

The bigger the network of chromecasts, the harder to connect?

Hi guys,
We've just setup our chromecast network. Now with 1 or even 2 chromecasts in the network, everything runs smooth. But if we switch to a bigger network with 3 or more chromecasts, the connection is really hard or won't even happen at all. Anyone experienced this as well? The Wifi is new and quite strong (with additional routers on the first floor, so the wifi shouldn't be the problem).
Thanks for the reply

This is a limitation of WIFI. The more devices you have on a wifi, less bandwidth you will have available. WIFI protocol is using air time allocation protocol because it can talk only with one device at the same time. More devices you have active, more times it will switch between them to deliver all the packages requested. If you have wifi booster or extenders, I would recommend you to grab them all, smack them with a hammer, put them in water, take them out, dry them in the microwave oven, burn them with a torch and trow them in the garbage because that is what they are. Extenders ads latency and packet loss and also is reducing your bandwidth in half before you even have a device on. Do it yourself or contact a professional to install UNIFI from UBNT or similar products. Huge fan of their gear. If you have it properly installed and set-up(not just plugged in) you wont have any problems with any devices not just Chromecast.
BTW, strong WIFI doesnt mean anything. Your wifi is as strong as the weakest device. You can have a wifi that transmits 10 miles, if your other device transmits back only 30ft, it will be 30ft max wifi range even if at 300ft it shows full bars. The best thing to do is add a bunch of AP with the transmit power on the lowest. Keep in mind that wifi 2.4 has only 3 true channels that wont overlap: 1. 6 and 11. If you set them all the same channels they will hurt them self with their own noise floor. If you properly set them up with a spectrum analyzer, to be right at the limit, you could make them all same channel and do cool things like zero-handoff. Performance WIFI requires knowledge and proper set-up not just plug and go.

poor BT reange

Hello experts,
My SW3 has a really poor bluetooth range; if I have the phone, or the headset, ad more then 75 cm of distance they do not receive the BT signal from the watch.
Is this normal?
Is there a way to increase a bit the range?
Thanks a lot

This is not normal. My watch maintain connection even if I leave my phone in other room with a concrete wall in between.

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This is not normal. My watch maintain connection even if I leave my phone in other room with a concrete wall in between.
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Mmm... thanks.
So what do you suggest?

It sounds like hardware issue.

Well, I just tried a full reset and - it seems - now BT is working fine.
I'll do a couple of tests and will let you know.

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It sounds like hardware issue.
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I think I found the guilty.
May the sweat interfer with normal BT range?
I use to put the SW3 in the back pocket of my running pants and... after few minutes I begin to have the transmission problems.
A possible solution could be to "Domopack" the SW3 before starting to run.
What about?

Rate this thread to express how you think the LG G5's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?
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My only gripe with the WiFi has naught to do with these metrics. It has to do with connecting to authenticated networks (coffee shops, work, "open a browser to login" types.). I HATE how it will choose to just not connect instead of waiting for you to authenticate. Haven't phones been able to be connected to WiFi and cellular data since Lollipop or so? Why just not connect instead of holding until you auth the network? Argh. Anyway! Great, otherwise!

My phone drops wireless in my room constantly, no other device does. 2nd phone, definitely a design issue
EDIT: Forcing 2.4GHz fixes issue

Wifi is definitely stronger here than my Galaxy S7.
Maybe the metal frame is helping?
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My Wi-Fi is constantly dropping!!!...I live and work in a Group home and there are choices...I can either sign in to Staff Wi-Fi or I can use the public Wi-Fi...I can't tell the different...both are constantly dropping...What to do???...