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I got good news for you all!
https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
No oreo in march either, just a nice security patch..
Who said that security update and Oreo can't be in the same month? A little more optimism.
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Who said that security update and Oreo can't be in the same month? A little more optimism.
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The changelog would've said Oreo in it.
M1810 said:
I got good news for you all!
https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
No oreo in march neither, just a nice security patch..
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What part of that says "there will be no Oreo update in March"? It just says that the current update will include security patches through 3/1. Nowhere does it say it will be the only update in March. In fact, the staged rollout for Oreo on Lenovo/moto phones has already started in Australia and New Zealand with the X4, and the G5 Plus is on the short list to get the update after the X4, so the chances are really good that we'll start to see the G5 Plus getting Oreo in March or April (the PR firm handling the release of information hasn't given an exact date, just that the rollout has started, and the list of devices that will get it after the X4)
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What part of that says "there will be no Oreo update in March"? It just says that the current update will include security patches through 3/1. Nowhere does it say it will be the only update in March. In fact, the staged rollout for Oreo on Lenovo/moto phones has already started in Australia and New Zealand with the X4, and the G5 Plus is on the short list to get the update after the X4, so the chances are really good that we'll start to see the G5 Plus getting Oreo in March or April (the PR firm handling the release of information hasn't given an exact date, just that the rollout has started, and the list of devices that will get it after the X4)
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The january patch changelig was released in november.. and we got it in februsry with no oreo.. i'm sure the same will happen now..
Also, we'll get oreo after the z series, which has got a new soak test.. so my guess is the end of april or may
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The january patch changelig was released in november.. and we got it in februsry with no oreo.. i'm sure the same will happen now..
Also, we'll get oreo after the z series, which has got a new soak test.. so my guess is the end of april or may
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Which z series phone is running a soak test at the moment?
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Which z series phone is running a soak test at the moment?
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Seems it's the Z, Z Play and Z2 Play at the moment in soak test from their respective XDA forums. There seems to be a couple of reports suggesting the Z Force is also in soak test https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75547609&postcount=7 X4 and Z2 Force have the OTA for Oreo (looks like Z2 Force came out a few days ago).
Maybe after their official release, the G4 Plus/G5 (Plus) and G5S (Plus) devices are next? That is, if the G6 release doesn't get in the way...
I think motorola is waiting for the G5 to reach 1 year so they wln't have to provide 8.1 update..
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I think motorola is waiting for the G5 to reach 1 year so they wln't have to provide 8.1 update..
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Pretty sure they'll release only 8.0 and not 8.1
My take in this is that it will take about 15 days into March until we see this patch being pushed to at least one of the regions.
(Likely to be retbr first) [lucky me, br]
echo92 could be right though, we may see Soak Tests for the G5 Plus.
Actually, I think the Z Play will very, very soon receive Oreo officially
Check this: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126755
I mean, always keep an eye on the Lenovo Support pages. Search for Maintenance, Oreo. They update it almost daily.
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My guess: they either release 8.1 for the G5 S and G5 S plus or they will release 8.1 for both G5 and G5S plus models..
I actually decided to analyze the time between update release dates and update notes date in the Lenovo Support page...
If my calculations are correct we may only receive Oreo in May. That if they don't decide to come up with an April security patch for Nougat.
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The changelog would've said Oreo in it.
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They obviously aren't including Oreo with this update, but that doesn't mean they can't have a separate update for Oreo without the security patch
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They obviously aren't including Oreo with this update, but that doesn't mean they can't have a separate update for Oreo without the security patch
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This could be true.. remember the soak tests from the Z series got december security patch when stock 7.1 already had it..
FWIW - https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...8-Oreo-Update-CONFIRMED/td-p/3806219/page/131
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I actually decided to analyze the time between update release dates and update notes date in the Lenovo Support page...
If my calculations are correct we may only receive Oreo in May. That if they don't decide to come up with an April security patch for Nougat.
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Last year a Lenovo device as same price range of Moto g 5 plus got update to Nougat in last week of may.
lol
Android P Preview released and we still didn't get an Oreo update
Never buying any Moto/Lenovo smartphone again
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Android P Preview released and we still didn't get an Oreo update
Never buying any Moto/Lenovo smartphone again
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Android One devices are the right way, my next device will be one of them
I would go for custom ROM.. but i'll lose 10% of my camera quality and i won't have stock moto apps which i like..
Anyway, considering how P looks by now, i prefer ore a hundred times.. let's see how this goes until august
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I would go for custom ROM.. but i'll lose 10% of my camera quality and i won't have stock moto apps which i like..
Anyway, considering how P looks by now, i prefer ore a hundred times.. let's see how this goes until august
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Not true, you could always just use one of the HDR+ ports which really improve camera quality
We're waiting for the Oreo update but it doesnt seem to be coming anytime soon.
Just another security update.
Maintenance update: https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/126135
Last night my XT1670 retla was updated to the security patch of January 1st. Still Android 7.0, but waiting for Oreo...
And I received january security patch today (XT1671 RETLA)
Di you notice any changes in behavior?
On reteu also the same update
I already got the march patch some days ago, retbr
Maybe Android Oreo will be released in April 19th, 2018. It's the announcement date of Moto G6 Play, Moto G6 and Moto G6 Plus.
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Maybe Android Oreo will be released in April 19th, 2018. It's the announcement date of Moto G6 Play, Moto G6 and Moto G6 Plus.
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That's really bad news because if we don't get the update before G6 launch we'll probably never see oreo on the G5, it's going be forgotten by lenovo.
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That's really bad news because if we don't get the update before G6 launch we'll probably never see oreo on the G5, it's going be forgotten by lenovo.
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They will update the Moto G5 Series to 8.0.0.
Today i've got march security update in Germany. Two security updates in 3 weeks, but no oreo
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They will update the Moto G5 Series to 8.0.0.
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they said the same for the G4 series and then didn't even updated to nougat as of today, 2 years+ later.
They updated Moto G4 series Unlocked variants to 7.0 and 7.1.1
The worst ever software update service i ever had. Thought samsung was the worst. But its non other than Moto. I bought this phone just because... Thinking that it will be stock Android, it will update quickly.. and will have better support. Moto used to be ahead of evey other , right behind nexus / pixel devices in terms of software update. But soon after Lenovo acquired moto, software update is a nightmare for every single moto phone.
You may have seen xda portal news about moto g6 series. Well they too wont be getting much support either.
I bought this phone as my secondary phone... I will give this to mom and will buy something like xiaomi note 5 or Zenfone pro m1 . I have a pixel 2 xl as primary.. evey time it gets update notification... I desperately check software update on this too. Now its on march 1 security update. I am looking forward to 64bit official os. Hope Lenovo will do it atlest in two years.
Btw.. i had only one phone from Lenovo ever before. A6000 just 3 days after i bought it its vibration motor stopped!! And when i searched for the reason , i figured out that it was one of their common problems. So i thought to put in some local vibrator motor from local market.. as going and waiting for service is too time consuming. When i opened the phone. I was literally shocked by the quality of the pcb construction.. it was like cheep chineese phones.. soo bad construction .. lol.. they dont even care to put rf sheilds and cheep quality wires and speakers. Literally... Some Chinese manufacturers make better pcb.. If you compare that pcb with something like nokia 1110 ( ya a phone from almost 10 years back) . Nokia's pcb is still the winner. !! Generations ahead.. still .. That day i decided.. i will never buy a Lenovo product again. And I didn't even care to go to local market and buy a vibration motor for that phone.. i closed it. And after a week, gifted to a friend.
Lol.. p20 and p20 pro.. good they sealed it. Donno what will be inside.
I also bought moto to get quick updates and I think, best solution to get oreo is installing custom rom and voiding warranty. That's so funny, lenovo can't still release oreo, but custom roms are on 8.1
Are there any release notes for may security patch?
I hope we will receive oreo next..
Personally I think Oreo will come perhaps 1-2 months after the G6 launch.
I still see Motorola using the Android 7 v 8 comparison between the phones as a marketing ploy.
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Personally I think Oreo will come perhaps 1-2 months after the G6 launch.
I still see Motorola using the Android 7 v 8 comparison between the phones as a marketing ploy.
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they have sent emails comparing the G5S having 7.1 vs the new G6 with android 8.0.. and then there are the fanboys of motorola saying it was never delayed..
Motorola could step up and give us the android P beta, then release the official in august-september, it counts as only one update just dreaming
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Motorola could step up and give us the android P beta, then release the official in august-september, it counts as only one update just dreaming
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Those are some high expectations my friend
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Those are some high expectations my friend
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i know haha, but i know the developers here will do an awesome work bringing P for us
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i know haha, but i know the developers here will do an awesome work bringing P for us
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Only if they don't move on to another device.
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Only if they don't move on to another device.
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hope not..
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The Galaxy Nexus got an 8.1 port so I doubt they would give up on the g5 phones
Consider this:
On how Oreo 8 works vs current 7 so it's a biggie https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/...-will-modularize-android-make-updates-faster/.
Moto G5 Plus will not support project treble
phil0sophic said:
Consider this:
On how Oreo 8 works vs current 7 so it's a biggie https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/...will-modularize-android-make-updates-faster/.
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Oreo != Treble. We won't get treble.
Lenovo screwed us over, stock-ish Android but no major updates or improvements other than security patches. I will never buy another one of their phones again that's for sure. Next device will probably be a Android One device like the Nokia 7 Plus.
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS129979
This is for g5s+ but the g5+ shouldn't be left far behind
Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.
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Interested in knowing if the kernel is updated to 64 bit or else this update would be utterly useless to developer community apart from camera blobs.
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It will still be 32 bit. But we need those blobs yes.
Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.
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Hmm, having seen no soak tests from either the G5S Plus or the G5 Plus, June may seem a little optimistic. When Motorola was testing the Oreo soak test for the Z Play, they also released the update notes for the Oreo update: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75464851&postcount=181 However, it still was 1-2 months before official OTA deployment.
Whilst it's good to get excited about major updates, I'd still temper expectations until the OTA actually comes out.
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i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out
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i'll be happy if some good mate shared the soak test files to install when it is out
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So long as you're prepared for the possibility of major, possibly device breaking bugs and having to be very careful if you wanted to downgrade back to Nougat (we've got enough bricked devices as it is)... It should be fun, just be careful
A jump is nice. Directly to 8.1 Let's see how much time it would take
I disagree that we will see an upgrade in June... Let's break it down a bit as to why:
Honestly, look at the history of the Oreo upgrade for the G5S+, it has been in beta/soak for almost 5 months. It started in late January, I can provide references but Google will work easily enough here if you don't believe me, and there are verified users getting the initial beta in early February. Although I haven't seen a screenshot of the released version, I am told it has the May security update, meaning the final build was likely early to mid-May... So conservatively that process took 4 months from initial beta test to release.
OK, so a tad longer than most Moto upgrades, but not uncommon as anywhere from 30 to 100 days from initial beta/soak to release is normal. We have seen this process be no shorter than 30 days, although 60 would be "typical", but we have seen it take in excess of 8 months (in the case of Nougat for the Moto X Style/Pure before full release, for example).
Now jump to our device, the G5+... there is no confirmed users with a beta or soak yet, not even semi-substantiated or reputable rumors of it occurring yet in ANY market. Not even confirmation of MFN users getting emails to sign up for the beta test. Plug in the previous numbers and we are looking at a release no earlier than late July, but most likely in September and possibly even later.
Again, this is all guess work and looking at history and my personal knowledge through having Moto devices for a very long time, so I could be wrong... in fact, I hope I am wrong.
Plus, let's not forget this device is already 15 months old (released March 2017), and this puts Oreo release at an age of 18+ months, something Lenovo's Moto has done before for devices this age, but also at an age they have cancelled upgrades (not updates) on other devices at this age as well. Although I don't think they will cancel it, it is a remote possibility to keep in mind.
Just my 2 cents worth... take it as you wish.
Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.
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Oreo 8.1 now rolling out for the G5S Plus.
We can't be too far behind.
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Just curious, what have you seen to show the rollout is happening? I've not seen any OTA reports and the update page for the 8.1 Oreo was taken down (or I can't access it at any rate).
Just Google it (moto g5s plus oreo) and see all the reports from the last 12 hours. Eg BGR, Android Police
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/30/android-8-1-oreo-rolling-moto-g5s-plus/
Edit : seems like the articles reference a Motorola update info page that has since been taken down.
Perhaps it went up prematurely?!
Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)
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Now...G5s plus got...New maintainance release note ...which is not oreo...its a june security patch update
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130066
( nyway...i m a g4 plus user)
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well, at least we know that the 8.1 release note was for a soak test.. so oreo is on it's way and as soon as the soal test leaks you all will be able to install it
Now the thing is what is going to happen with the G5 plus non S?
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June
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https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095 this is coming for us in June
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*Maybe coming*
Unfortunately, we have seen these "release notes" posted many times and the associated update never appears on devices.
But since we won't get Oreo for several months, if at all, we will probably see the update.
Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!
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Oreo will never come to the G5+ due to Oreo being 64bit only (which the G5+ is not), sorry guys...
The G5S+, on the other hand, will have the Oreo update indeed!
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I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8632026 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277398&postcount=28 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?
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I'm confused by this statement about Oreo being only 64 bit - the Moto Z Play (also with the Snapdragon 625) got an update to Oreo (v8.0), which was a 32 bit update... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cp...pers.com/showpost.php?p=76277699&postcount=29
As I understand it, the G5 Plus, G5S Plus and the Z Play have the same 64 bit capable CPU, just with a 32 bit stock ROM, unless something changed?
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Oreo is able to run on 32bit systems, as you quoted, it does on the Z Play. As changing from 32 to 64bit needs a complete wipe no OEM will change that with an OTA update. Motorola knew what devices are running which OS and they wouldn't have announced Oreo for Moto G5 and G5+.
Some people just don't have the correct informations.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.
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Sometimes I wonder that Moto is treating G5 plus differently than G5S plus but both the phones are basically the same (IMO), the only difference being the screen size and the dual camera setup and thus will update G5 plus after updating the special edition G5S plus, if this happens, I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Oreo till the end of September, maybe November.
This is just an assumption and I'm not saying that it's correct but I just hope it's not and Moto will release a patch note for G5 plus Oreo update soon.
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by the month of november all our warranties will be over and custom rom's bugs will probably be all fixed.. also treble is in a good development state, so we would not need support from motorola anymore.. i don't think it's worthed waiting that long..
How long it takes to become Update to Android 9.
Older devices from Moto like the Moto G6 get it.
For our Z2 Force no news.
Hope that I could use after that volte after Update to Android 9.
Now with Android 8 volte is disabled for european devices ?
Motorola Brazil said the next phones getting Pie are: Moto Z3 Play, Z2 Force, Z2 Play, G6 and G6 Play.
I believe we will get it with the March Update. There are probably a security update coming within the next days, so Pie will probably the update after that one.
Too bad we not even have 8.1
My favourite Substratum themes don't support 8.0 since a while and I am frustrated waiting for an update ....
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How long it takes to become Update to Android 9.
Older devices from Moto like the Moto G6 get it.
For our Z2 Force no news.
Hope that I could use after that volte after Update to Android 9.
Now with Android 8 volte is disabled for european devices ?
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The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.
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The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.
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I have a UK bought reteu model and I have nothing in settings to enable native WiFi calling or volte.
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The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
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That's right, but Z-series get two major updates. First difference. And the second difference is that the Z2 Force is a 799€ device and not just 249€ like the Moto G6. So we can expect more and longer updates for it. Normally Z-phones should get it first. We have no 8.1, so at least 9.0 first. Hope
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The Moto G6 is from April 2018, but the Moto Z2 was released in September 2017.
Are u shure that volte is disabled is in European model? I'm using an Europe model and volte and Wifi calling is working without any problem.
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No, there is no Option to enable volte and wifi calling.
I read online that Motorola disabled it after Update from Android 7 to 8 cause they had a Problem with that. But never fixed it. After that long Times that is not ok. I cant count that as a Support.
If volte is not working after Update to Android 9 the z2 force Was the last device I bought from Motorola.
What is Moto doing? Not even a security patch since November. This is an Android Enterprise Recommended smartphone. They are supposed to follow Google's guidelines to get security updates atleast every 90 days. We're in February almost and no security patch is being released or Android 9. Google should tell them a thing or two.
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What is Moto doing? Not even a security patch since November. This is an Android Enterprise Recommended smartphone. They are supposed to follow Google's guidelines to get security updates atleast every 90 days. We're in February almost and no security patch is being released or Android 9. Google should tell them a thing or two.
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There's a December patch for the Verizon model.
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There's a December patch for the Verizon model.
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Reteu still on November patch..
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Reteu still on November patch..
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Should coming in few days. Have seen, that the january patch is documented on moto page for z2 force and z3 play. Keep cool, it's on the way. But no pie xD Next time maybe :silly:
Almost all of the Moto devices are on Pie now , mine Moto X4 is also on Dec Patch Pie update , only the flagship Z series is lagging behind :'(
Last time , Oreo came in Dec but this time i think Moto is gonna follow Moto Z , who received Oreo in Apr 2018 (after Dec 17 patch) =_=
openmx still on november patch
Here, too. Seems that's need more time.
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An official from Motorola Spain said to me at the Moto G7 launch event that the Moto Z2 Android Pie update has started but it's rolling out really slowly. It has the December 2018 security patch, just like the new G7. I'm typing this from the new G7 BTW.
I think they delayed the update. Z2F official website shows the January update already, but seems like nobody received it yet. Retbr here and still nothing.
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I think they delayed the update. Z2F official website shows the January update already, but seems like nobody received it yet. Retbr here and still nothing.
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Yes, have seen this, too. Maybe Pie is coming and no january-patch?
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Yes, have seen this, too. Maybe Pie is coming and no january-patch?
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I hope that's the case but to be honest I really doubt it. I believe we will only Pie with the March Update or even later. Z3 Play haven't received Pie yet, I doubt we will get it before it.
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I hope that's the case but to be honest I really doubt it. I believe we will only Pie with the March Update or even later. Z3 Play haven't received Pie yet, I doubt we will get it before it.
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Z3 play is rolling out today https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-z3-play-android-pie-update/
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Z3 play is rolling out today https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-z3-play-android-pie-update/
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That's good news! Now this can really mean there's a possibility that Motorola delayed the security update to finally update Z2F to Pie. If this scenario become reality, I guess we should be seeing Pie in the next coming weeks. Fingers crossed