New OTA: NPN25.137-83 - Moto G5 Plus Guides, News, & Discussion

New update for me to install. I downloaded it, but haven't installed it yet.
I'm in the US on the Sprint network. Showed the August 2017 security update. I can't remember if there were other fixes or updates. It was only 168mb.

Just had it pop on mine in the last 5 minutes... On AT&T in North Dakota, already 50% though updating... I grabbed the url though: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/solution/MS122856
Moto G5 Plus - Maintenance Release Notes
INTRODUCTION
Motorola is excited to announce a new software update for Moto G5 Plus by Motorola. This update brings important improvements to your phone.
For more information on Motorola updates and repairs, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
NOTE: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update.
ENHANCEMENTS
This update introduces changes including the following:
Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through 1 August 2017.
Stability improvements: Includes changes that fix bugs and improve the stability of your phone.
Calling updates: Enhancements to emergency calling functionality.
INSTRUCTIONS
For a successful installation, we recommend installing this update when the battery in your phone is at least 50% charged and you are connected to a Wi-Fi network.
If you have received a notification message for this update:
Select "Yes, I'm in".
After the software is downloaded, select "Install now".
After the software is installed, your phone will re-start automatically.
Your phone is now updated.
If you have not received a notification message for this update, follow the steps below to manually update your phone:
Select the Settings icon in the apps menu.
Select "About phone".
Select "System updates".
Select "Yes, I'm in". After the software is downloaded, select "Install now".
After the software is installed, your phone will re-start automatically.
Your phone is now updated.
Additional Information
If you have difficulty with this upgrade, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
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After boot system info for those interested...

acejavelin said:
After boot system info for those interested...
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Installing now myself.
Does Lenovo ever publish what the changes actually are? Hopefully some security updates.

androcraze said:
Installing now myself.
Does Lenovo ever publish what the changes actually are? Hopefully some security updates.
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Moto says the same as most other manufacturers... see the post or link above.

acejavelin said:
Moto says the same as most other manufacturers... see the post or link above.
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Thanks. I've come over from the N5. We discussed my ROM at one point. How are you liking the G5+?
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Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through 1 August 2017.
Stability improvements: Includes changes that fix bugs and improve the stability of your phone.
Calling updates: Enhancements to emergency calling functionality.

androcraze said:
Thanks. I've come over from the N5. We discussed my ROM at one point. How are you liking the G5+?
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Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through 1 August 2017.
Stability improvements: Includes changes that fix bugs and improve the stability of your phone.
Calling updates: Enhancements to emergency calling functionality.
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Ahhh... I knew the name sounded familiar and it just clicked.
I like it a lot actually, battery life is amazing and that seems to be my major thing lately, most other things seem of less importance now days, but to be honest it has been a solid device going on 6 or 7 weeks now. It just works.

acejavelin said:
Ahhh... I knew the name sounded familiar and it just clicked.
I like it a lot actually, battery life is amazing and that seems to be my major thing lately, most other things seem of less importance now days, but to be honest it has been a solid device going on 6 or 7 weeks now. It just works.
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I agree. I have no complaints, and the battery life is crazy compared to the N5. Four days compared to nightly charges.
It's a solid device right now, and appears to more than equal the N5.
I'm on factory for the time being. I may try rolling my own, but this is a different ecosystem than the Nexus world.

Anyone in india got that update??

Another update? UGH! I guess it is going to be like this from now on.... Repetitive updates...
Still on -35 and getting -35-5 announcements. Still haven't even updated to -35-5, -35-67 showed up, now -35-83?
Is it still rootable? Are there FULL FW's so I can upgrade or do I need to upgrade to -35 and let it update to -83? Do I need to be on -35-67 before the -35-83 is capable of being installed?

m4f1050 said:
Another update? UGH! I guess it is going to be like this from now on.... Repetitive updates...
Still on -35 and getting -35-5 announcements. Still haven't even updated to -35-5, -35-67 showed up, now -35-83?
Is it still rootable? Are there FULL FW's so I can upgrade or do I need to upgrade to -35 and let it update to -83? Do I need to be on -35-67 before the -35-83 is capable of being installed?
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You are the only person I know of that is complaining about Moto deploying too many updates. lol
BTW, if anyone is curious this only contains security updates as of August 1, 2017... It still shows as Vulnerable to the Blueborne vulnerability.

I'm on NPN25-137-67 XT1686 Indian Varient
I didn't got any update?

Can someone grab the update zip? I'm on Verizon and it doesn't show for me....

acejavelin said:
You are the only person I know of that is complaining about Moto deploying too many updates. lol
BTW, if anyone is curious this only contains security updates as of August 1, 2017... It still shows as Vulnerable to the Blueborne vulnerability.
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Don't get me wrong, updates are great, but not if you are rooted and you have to go through a process to root then reconfigure the phone since it's not an OTA, you have to reflash a STOCK rom to allow OTA's, then you have to root (if possible, not sure if -83 is yet...) and then setup the phone the way you want it..

mikeyinid said:
Can someone grab the update zip? I'm on Verizon and it doesn't show for me....
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Same here,a update zip would be much appreciated. Thanks

acejavelin said:
You are the only person I know of that is complaining about Moto deploying too many updates. lol
BTW, if anyone is curious this only contains security updates as of August 1, 2017... It still shows as Vulnerable to the Blueborne vulnerability.
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Huh... Why not wait and add the patch for BB? Odd... So the safest thing to do is to not even be using BlueTooth at all until it's patched? It's been 3 weeks right? 9-12 or was it 9-11 (what a coincidence)

m4f1050 said:
Huh... Why not wait and add the patch for BB? Odd... So the safest thing to do is to not even be using BlueTooth at all until it's patched? It's been 3 weeks right? 9-12 or was it 9-11 (what a coincidence)
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Well... that's debatable... Although this vulnerability is real, the chances of being effected by it are so remote in most cases is so infinitesimally small that changing your usage habits probably isn't necessary.
Why the August one, probably because that is when they had is scheduled and it was nearly complete when the Sept update came out so they decided to just finish and release it anyway, why let the work go to waste. For Moto it is usually a couple months behind anyway.

acejavelin said:
Well... that's debatable... Although this vulnerability is real, the chances of being effected by it are so remote in most cases is so infinitesimally small that changing your usage habits probably isn't necessary.
Why the August one, probably because that is when they had is scheduled and it was nearly complete when the Sept update came out so they decided to just finish and release it anyway, why let the work go to waste. For Moto it is usually a couple months behind anyway.
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My bad, I went out of sync with time for a min. It's AUGUST security the one on this -83 (not SEPTEMBER) so I am guessing there is another update coming!
Did you root your -67 (if you have -67?) My bootloader is already unlocked, do you know if Moto will eventually lock this (maybe Google forcing them to any time soon?)
Moto devs can unlock bootloaders and phone has ugly start image but other than that it all works as intended. (BTW, I am using SuperSU and BusyBox on my -35, not the Magisk root - I use Wifi Tether Router and doesn't work with Magisk)

m4f1050 said:
My bad, I went out of sync with time for a min. It's AUGUST security the one on this -83 (not SEPTEMBER) so I am guessing there is another update coming!
Did you root your -67 (if you have -67?) My bootloader is already unlocked, do you know if Moto will eventually lock this (maybe Google forcing them to any time soon?)
Moto devs can unlock bootloaders and phone has ugly start image but other than that it all works as intended. (BTW, I am using SuperSU and BusyBox on my -35, not the Magisk root - I use Wifi Tether Router and doesn't work with Magisk)
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Another update coming? I suppose, but since we just got this one I don't expect it for 3-4 months and that puts it in the timeframe of Oreo so this might be our last update to Nougat.
As far as the bootloader thing goes, I don't see Moto stopping this or actively blocking rooting, nor do I see Google doing this either.
I don't unlock or root anymore, just don't see the benefits.

mikeyinid said:
Can someone grab the update zip? I'm on Verizon and it doesn't show for me....
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+1. I'm on 43-5, a Verizon-exclusive update, and am not seeing an OTA. Chances are it's incompatible with my version and I'll have to reflash -35 and get the OTA. I'd suggest anyone else having this issue does as well. I'll report back as soon as I flash.

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NDE63P vs NOF26V

Are there any important difference between NOF26V and NDE63P updates? Any advantages or disadvantages between the two?
I have a Verizon Pixel XL that arrived about a week ago. It came with NDE63P. I immediately enabled developer options and disabled automatic system updates. I have not yet decided if I am going to unlock the bootloader, and I am not asking for advice on whether or not I should. I am trying to keep my options open. I like to keep things simple, which is why I like the Nexus and Pixel phones. Taking an OTA is much easier than sideloading an update. But there are still good reasons to unlock/root.
I am still weighing my options. I don't feel any need to rush right now.
I've read of people having bluetooth or battery issues, none of which I am experiencing right now on NDE63P. Until I make a decision, is there anything other than current security updates that NOF26V fixes or breaks?
Thanks!
Here is a great big disadvantage to taking it as your device sits now. Any ota you take before unlocking the bootloader renders it un-unlockable. So, theres your choice. Unlock and take any otas you want and maintain the ability to customize or not, or, leave it locked, take an ota, and no more choices. You decide.
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wyrdtrtle said:
Here is a great big disadvantage to taking it as your device sits now. Any ota you take before unlocking the bootloader renders it un-unlockable. So, theres your choice. Unlock and take any otas you want and maintain the ability to customize or not, or, leave it locked, take an ota, and no more choices. You decide.
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I am completely aware of that. That is why I disabled automatic system updates, so I can make this decision after I have had a chance to use the device and decide what changes, if any, I want to make. I am just trying to make an informed decision on my own.
Are there any key differences, pros or cons, between NDE63P and the current NOF26V?
stm8 said:
I am completely aware of that. That is why I disabled automatic system updates, so I can make this decision after I have had a chance to use the device and decide what changes, if any, I want to make. I am just trying to make an informed decision on my own.
Are there any key differences, pros or cons, between NDE63P and the current NOF26V?
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Many people have disabled the updates but then it mysteriously updates itself and then cry for an unlock, so we are warning you is all. The difference between the 2 is mainly security updates but they did add a few features, like waking the phone can't remember exactly what. Some small tweaks and fixes too. There's change logs somewhere.
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Many people have disabled the updates but then it mysteriously updates itself and then cry for an unlock, so we are warning you is all. The difference between the 2 is mainly security updates but they did add a few features, like waking the phone can't remember exactly what. Some small tweaks and fixes too. There's change logs somewhere.
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Thanks. I have read about the mystery updates happening despite disabling automatic updates.
I'll review the change logs, but Google doesn't usually list their "bugs" in the change logs...
The Bluetooth issues seem the typical phantom Android issues that come and go. There are the emoji and long press shortcuts that come with 7.1.1. That is about it, not much has changed.
So I don't think you need to update any time soon.
stm8 said:
I am still weighing my options. I don't feel any need to rush right now.
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Weighing your options? You have 2 options, unlock or don't unlock. What's the dilemma? Ok, so here ya go. 50% say unlock and the other 50% say stay locked. Solved?
bobby janow said:
Weighing your options? You have 2 options, unlock or don't unlock. What's the dilemma? Ok, so here ya go. 50% say unlock and the other 50% say stay locked. Solved?
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I am not asking advice about whether or not to unlock, just the differences/bugs/upgrades between these updates.
TonikJDK said:
The Bluetooth issues seem the typical phantom Android issues that come and go. There are the emoji and long press shortcuts that come with 7.1.1. That is about it, not much has changed.
So I don't think you need to update any time soon.
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Thanks, I appreciate it. That's the kind of info I am looking for!
stm8 said:
I am not asking advice about whether or not to unlock, just the differences/bugs/upgrades between these updates.
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I understand that but you first need to decide if you're going to unlock or keep the bootloader locked. Because, at some point you "will" upgrade whether or not you are in a rush. I'm just not getting your dilemma. Google has resources which you can search that outline what has changed besides the security updates which you obviously should get. And as you know if you stay locked and update then you're stuck. So once again, your options are to lock or unlock not whether to update or not.
TonikJDK said:
The Bluetooth issues seem the typical phantom Android issues that come and go. There are the emoji and long press shortcuts that come with 7.1.1. That is about it, not much has changed.
So I don't think you need to update any time soon.
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Are you certain?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.gott...ruary-android-nougat-update-what-to-know/amp/
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bobby janow said:
Are you certain?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.gott...ruary-android-nougat-update-what-to-know/amp/
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I wasn't 100 percent sure until your link, thanks. From the article:
"From what we’re seeing and hearing the February Android 7.1.1 Nougat update doesn’t actually have any other changes. There are no new features, bug fixes, or performance tweaks. This is simply a security update, like we can expect to see at the beginning of each month."
TonikJDK said:
I wasn't 100 percent sure until your link, thanks. From the article:
"From what we’re seeing and hearing the February Android 7.1.1 Nougat update doesn’t actually have any other changes. There are no new features, bug fixes, or performance tweaks. This is simply a security update, like we can expect to see at the beginning of each month."
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The problem is that Google doesn't exactly advertise or even admit to any bugs introduced in their updates, whether it's firmware or applications.
stm8 said:
The problem is that Google doesn't exactly advertise or even admit to any bugs introduced in their updates, whether it's firmware or applications.
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Very true, and Google doesn't disclose fixes much either. So all we can do is give the OP our opinion and experience. I have not seen any bugs fixed, or seen any introduced on my phone. So if he wants to wait while he decides on unlocking i dont think he is missing much. I stand by my advice.
TonikJDK said:
Very true, and Google doesn't disclose fixes much either. So all we can do is give the OP our opinion and experience. I have not seen any bugs fixed, or seen any introduced on my phone. So if he wants to wait while he decides on unlocking i dont think he is missing much. I stand by my advice.
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But you selectively left out the important part.
Overall we spotted 35 changes to the February Nougat release. At least according to Google’s security blog and change log. That said, eight of them were considered “critical” and needed to be addressed right away.
It's ridiculous to wait. There are bug fixes, You just need to search for them. Personally I don't care what he does, but then he is taking a security chance. I think your advice is wrong. His choice.
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Oct. 2018 Google Pixel / Nexus Security Update

https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/pixel/2018-10-01
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There are no Pixel or Nexus security patches in the October 2018 Pixel / Nexus Security Bulletin.
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:angel: :cyclops:
Seems like we're back to not being able to push the updates through
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Seems like we're back to not being able to push the updates through
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I don't understand. I downloaded and adb sideloaded the October OTA minutes after it posted. I had no problem whatsoever.
My comment was about the "security update" having no security updates / patches.
Still September Patch Level?
Pkt_Lnt said:
I don't understand. I downloaded and adb sideloaded the October OTA minutes after it posted. I had no problem whatsoever.
My comment was about the "security update" having no security updates / patches.
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After upgrading to the October image, does you system show though that the system security patch level is still September, 2018?
cmexec said:
After upgrading to the October image, does you system show though that the system security patch level is still September, 2018?
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No, shows October 5 2018 which is crazy, because I got the update on October 1, and did not know the P2XL was a time machine to take me into the future! :cyclops:
Pkt_Lnt said:
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/pixel/2018-10-01
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Update took ages for me. The download and the install was sooooo slow... . After the update (one full day) I have about 25-30% less battery with the same usage.
(This is not a real measure, just a feeling)
Charged faster over 90% (sometimes it says @95% : 18 mint to max. Now It was faster.
It was not on the change log list but I have less display flickering during the environmental light changes...
And Now the notification led alerts are sometimes not working with some apps. (example Gmail.)
Maybe I'm going to reset my phone.
And yes I'm on Oct 5. security update
still no update for me. Shouldnt we all have access to the update ?
Relayers said:
still no update for me. Shouldnt we all have access to the update ?
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You do too have access.
https://developers.google.com/android/ota#instructions
You have a Pixel phone and you are an XDA member, nothing stopping you.
It was posted yesterday morning and I had my phone update within 15 minutes. :good:
Pkt_Lnt said:
You do too have access.
https://developers.google.com/android/ota#instructions
You have a Pixel phone and you are an XDA member, nothing stopping you.
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useless comment, well done !
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useless comment, well done !
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XDA Developers gives you the knowledge and tools to do it yourself instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do it for you. Use that knowledge and tools to take control of your phone! :good:
Pkt_Lnt said:
XDA Developers gives you the knowledge and tools to do it yourself instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do it for you. Use that knowledge and tools to take control of your phone! :good:
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I know more than you, wake up kiddo.
I asked about pushed OTA, you replied about XDA and sideloading. Do you understand what you did ? Probably not. I blame your parents (and Trump).
Relayers said:
I know more than you, wake up kiddo.
I asked about pushed OTA, you replied about XDA and sideloading. Do you understand what you did ? Probably not. I blame your parents (and Trump).
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Seems not.....you obviously dont understand how the push happens....short answer is no, not everyone has access to it at the same time. android 101.
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No, shows October 5 2018 which is crazy, because I got the update on October 1, and did not know the P2XL was a time machine to take me into the future! :cyclops:
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Same for me, also Oct. 5 security level
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Seems not.....you obviously dont understand how the push happens....short answer is no, not everyone has access to it at the same time. android 101.
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Yet he "knows more than you do"... and probably more than anyone else on xda
Relayers said:
I know more than you, wake up kiddo.
I asked about pushed OTA, you replied about XDA and sideloading. Do you understand what you did ? Probably not. I blame your parents (and Trump).
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@Pkt_Lnt fully understands what he did, but you apparently missed his point. Then again, you claim to know more than he does. And yet you still have so much to learn.
Regards,
Someone who has forgotten more than what you've learned.
reporting back: finally got the OTA, I guess I should have remembered its always around the 5th of the month.
Relayers said:
reporting back: finally got the OTA, I guess I should have remembered its always around the 5th of the month.
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Well good. Guess you can't blame the parents or (Trump) anymore! :laugh:
I still haven't gotten the update.
t2jbird said:
I still haven't gotten the update.
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Updates are staged and not everyone will receive one the first day. Download the update from Google's servers and sideload it if you don't want to wait.
t2jbird said:
I still haven't gotten the update.
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Are you enrolled in the Android Beta Program? Try un-enrolling. Then, check for updates again. The OTA should be pulled to your device this time round.

Have we reached end of "Android Version" updates?

As of this posting on 11/19 there has been no November update sent to the first gen Pixels Android Developers Image Page.
I know we are guaranteed security updates for the next 11 months, but I feel this is the beginning of the end. Does anyone have any experience with when the sun started to set on previous nexus devices?
Updates usually ends then announced date is reached. Zero Android updates after it. Not sure how huge and critical flaw must be to get an update after that.
They are working on it but there must be a bug they are trying to overcome.
https://www.androidauthority.com/android-november-2018-security-patch-921950/
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Looks like the update was just released. I checked manually and am getting a 47.1 mb update
Security update installing at the moment, on Pixel XL.
pcoulson said:
Security update installing at the moment, on Pixel XL.
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Really strange that you are getting it over the air...it isn't even posted on the Google Factory/OTA image pages yet. I wonder if this is some sort of Beta or otherwise controlled release...
sb1893 said:
Really strange that you are getting it over the air...it isn't even posted on the Google Factory/OTA image pages yet. I wonder if this is some sort of Beta or otherwise controlled release...
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Not sure, but is sure taking a while to install for such a small update.
Yep ... slow update ..
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Not sure, but is sure taking a while to install for such a small update.
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Looks like they are posted on Googles official update pages now...
#SeemsFaster

Question Updated To (13) Dev. Preview #2 & Lost Vo5G For Voice Calls!

Recently, when I decided to receive the OTA for 13 Dev Preview#2, among some of the changes from Tiramisu, or build #1, was my Pixel 6 Pro no longer had the feature Vo5G for voice calls.
This feature with it's own toggle used to reside at the bottom of the internet settings screen, right underneath the setting, "Allow 2G".
I did a beta feedback report on this, and will update this post when/if they find a solution for this issue. es
evnStevn said:
Recently, when I decided to receive the OTA for 13 Dev Preview#2, among some of the changes from Tiramisu, or build #1, was my Pixel 6 Pro no longer had the feature Vo5G for voice calls.
This feature with it's own toggle used to reside at the bottom of the internet settings screen, right underneath the setting, "Allow 2G".
I did a beta feedback report on this, and will update this post when/if they find a solution for this issue. es
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Beta 1 should come out tomorrow, so I guess we will see what happens.
Doug8796 said:
Beta 1 should come out tomorrow, so I guess we will see what happens.
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Where did you hear the 13 beta would drop tomorrow?
opz187 said:
Where did you hear the 13 beta would drop tomorrow?
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DP1 came out on the 2nd Thursday of February Android 13 Developer Preview 1 is here with themed icons, privacy changes, and more
DP2 came out on the 3rd Thursday of March Android 13 Developer Preview 2 arrives with notification permission requests and other changes
But March was when we had the late update for the Pixel 6/Pro as well (I think), so maybe that affected DP2.
More generally, here's the monthly plan for Betas, although it doesn't mention dates or particular Thursdays, probably because it's always tentative: Android 13 Developer Preview
roirraW edor ehT said:
DP1 came out on the 2nd Thursday of February Android 13 Developer Preview 1 is here with themed icons, privacy changes, and more
DP2 came out on the 3rd Thursday of March Android 13 Developer Preview 2 arrives with notification permission requests and other changes
But March was when we had the late update for the Pixel 6/Pro as well (I think), so maybe that affected DP2.
More generally, here's the monthly plan for Betas, although it doesn't mention dates or particular Thursdays, probably because it's always tentative: Android 13 Developer Preview
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Gotcha, makes sense now
This setting is controlled by the carrier setting. And yes, for T-Mobile specifically it was removed between DP1 and DP2.
Please provide the feedback entry if you have it.
Well said, and as I said on reddit:
"The first build was released on 2nd Thursday, the 10th of February. The second build was released the 3rd Thursday, the 17th of March. Due to the dirty pipe exploit and taking an average of the two dates of the month (roughly 13.5 day of the month (rounds up)), the build will almost certainly come out tomorrow, April 14, 2022."
roirraW edor ehT said:
DP1 came out on the 2nd Thursday of February Android 13 Developer Preview 1 is here with themed icons, privacy changes, and more
DP2 came out on the 3rd Thursday of March Android 13 Developer Preview 2 arrives with notification permission requests and other changes
But March was when we had the late update for the Pixel 6/Pro as well (I think), so maybe that affected DP2.
More generally, here's the monthly plan for Betas, although it doesn't mention dates or particular Thursdays, probably because it's always tentative: Android 13 Developer Preview
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here you go, tell me if you need something more. es
LLStarks said:
This setting is controlled by the carrier setting. And yes, for T-Mobile specifically it was removed between DP1 and DP2.
Please provide the feedback entry if you have it.
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LLStarks said:
This setting is controlled by the carrier setting. And yes, for T-Mobile specifically it was removed between DP1 and DP2.
Please provide the feedback entry if you have it.
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a magenta fan too, I take it? was that what you were looking for? If you need something different just let me know. es
The modem in DP2 is older and less refined than the newer builds of Android 12+.
This is not a modem issue as far as I've seen. It's possible that the early modems didn't support it, but the carrier config is the culprit here. There are clear differences between DP1 and DP2 where a flag that literally says vonr/vo5g is missing.
Maybe I'm doing this wrong, but replacing the DP2 one with the DP1 version doesn't seem to enable it. I was trying to adapt a magisk module to do that. But it's a little weird because sometimes the carrier configs are encoded and other times they are mostly plain text.
At least Google is acknowledging it.
LLStarks said:
This setting is controlled by the carrier setting. And yes, for T-Mobile specifically it was removed between DP1 and DP2.
Please provide the feedback entry if you have it.
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LLStarks said:
This is not a modem issue as far as I've seen. It's possible that the early modems didn't support it, but the carrier config is the culprit here. There are clear differences between DP1 and DP2 where a flag that literally says vonr/vo5g is missing.
Maybe I'm doing this wrong, but replacing the DP2 one with the DP1 version doesn't seem to enable it. I was trying to adapt a magisk module to do that. But it's a little weird because sometimes the carrier configs are encoded and other times they are mostly plain text.
At least Google is acknowledging it.
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Hey, I was just reading your comments, and yes, now, they are acknowledging the missing field. The first time I sent beta feedback on this issue was two weeks prior. They got everything from me, bug report, screen recordings from #1 & #2, as if "the before, and after" weight -loss ads! So a day or goes by, got the buginizer confirmation in my inbox, and I looked for the report filling in the beta feedback app grouped together with others I reported and the whole thing had been deleted, it wasn't anywhere! So I said fuc$ this shi#, I did the whole thing over again, even flashed back to DPB #1, to make sure Vo5G was still there! (lol) This time around, I made mention (several times) throughout my feedback report, that this first report seem to fall off of the radar, and could someone explain how & why, it had to be human error, blah, blah blah, & anyway this time around, it seems to be getting worked, but not vanishing into thin air. A friend of mine that I spoke to about this, got me in his mindset that this was maybe something that wasn't supposed to get out for public consumption until their Pixel 7 Series rollout, of course equipped with (stable) Android 13, and Vo5G Voice Calls included in their "Feature Blitz". To be honest, I'm still not so sure some of that isn't going on, as we all know both Google & Samsung been playing that shi# for years (because they can)!
LLStarks said:
This setting is controlled by the carrier setting. And yes, for T-Mobile specifically it was removed between DP1 and DP2.
Please provide the feedback entry if you have it.
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hey, thanks for the hit. es
they better include that feature when they release android 13 for pixel 6 series, i currently dont even have voLTE which is extremely annoying, even when i have 2 sims installed, if I make a phone call it disconnects my data on both lines and I am unable to use internet at all, its making me want to switch to another phone.
Beta 1 still doesn't include this.
NewDev4IOS said:
they better include that feature when they release android 13 for pixel 6 series, i currently dont even have voLTE which is extremely annoying, even when i have 2 sims installed, if I make a phone call it disconnects my data on both lines and I am unable to use internet at all, its making me want to switch to another phone.
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I heard it was omitted (not included) from DP#2 affecting only T-Mobile customers?! It may be just a rumor, others may be experiencing the same as us. I happy to learn we will see it again soon, next update or Android 13 Beta along with Face Unlock!
Doug8796 said:
The modem in DP2 is older and less refined than the newer builds of Android 12+.
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how did that happen...another of Google's attempts to get all the teams back under one roof, post-covid 19 style-ish, by bringing back the ever popular, "Bring Your Medical Marijuana To Work" week?! lol
The QPR modems have generally been the newest.
But with respect to Vo5G in particular, I'm not really sure where the carrier settings are being read from. Overwriting the protobuf files for T-Mobile doesn't seem to help.

Question Block 13 update?

I just got notified that my pixel 6 pro will update to A13 in two days, and there seems to be nothing I can do about it.
Does anyone know how to block it and stop any future updates? I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
What do I need to freeze, or what command line do i need to run, to clean this up and stop updates, especially A13?
I assume if your phone rooted, automatically updating will fail
It doesn't, and I lose root, that's what I thought last security update— which is why i'm concerned
christiebunny said:
I just got notified that my pixel 6 pro will update to A13 in two days, and there seems to be nothing I can do about it.
Does anyone know how to block it and stop any future updates? I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
What do I need to freeze, or what command line do i need to run, to clean this up and stop updates, especially A13?
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Yes tap build 7 times for Developer Settings and disable automatic updatea
You could unlock the bootloader (which would require a device wipe) and then reinstall your current build of Android manually. That would be one of the only ways to officially disable automatic updates as well as update notifications.
I don't think that there's any way you'll be able to permanently avoid it. At least one other person who was rooted on Android 12 got the OTA to 13 even though they had automatic updates already disabled and it actually installed successfully - they lost root until they manually re-rooted it, but it was a surprise it updated successfully via OTA.
You may be able to delay it some buy factory resetting and some other things, but it's a big "maybe", and ultimately I don't think there's any way for you to avoid it.
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Yes tap build 7 times for Developer Settings and disable automatic updatea
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The OP you quoted says:
christiebunny said:
I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
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roirraW edor ehT said:
I don't think that there's any way you'll be able to permanently avoid it. At least one other person who was rooted on Android 12 got the OTA to 13 even though they had automatic updates already disabled and it actually installed successfully - they lost root until they manually re-rooted it, but it was a surprise it updated successfully via OTA.
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I "think" I've seen 3 instances of where someone was rooted but successfully completed the OTA, although 2 may have been from the same person. Maybe it was even the same person mentioning it 3 times, lol. Not really sure.
Makes me wonder if they removed the pre-OTA block verifications when going from A12 to A13 or just a fluke situation.
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I "think" I've seen 3 instances of where someone was rooted but successfully completed the OTA, although 2 may have been from the same person. Didn't go back to check the posts.
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I think I've seen more than one person report this too, but wasn't sure, and as I always say, I keep forgetting the old stuff. What was I talking about?
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Makes me wonder if they removed the pre-OTA block verifications when going from A12 to A13 or something else is going on.
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I suspect (but pretty obvious) that they have ways of force-pushing updates through despite the automatic update setting (or it's broken in typical Google fashion), but I think it's the former.
Then I believe they made a command decision that the vulnerability is too bad and that they felt they must force it on everyone. Again, given Google's reputation, this could've easily been an accident as well - "who pushed the red button!?!?!?"
And then the further command decision to push over top of modded, or at least simply rooted, devices as much as possible. I wonder what happens in the case someone has truly modified their software more aggressively at the root level. It wouldn't surprise me if it would've still overridden in those cases.
While, of course, those would be questionable actions for them to take (if these are actually true in the first place), I either partially or mostly agree with them, but just on principle, I can't wholeheartedly agree with them. Somewhere in the 40%-99% range.
If true, hopefully this is a very rare occurrence and not going to be how it is from now on. I will wait patiently to observe how things go.
What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.
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What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.
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this exactly I also want to know, is there any reason for not upgrading to A13 when coming from A12?
Only thing I could think of is some apps which might not yet work on A13...but thats about it?!
Annil said:
this exactly I also want to know, is there any reason for not upgrading to A13 when coming from A12?
Only thing I could think of is some apps which might not yet work on A13...but thats about it?!
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V4A, at least in my case. I'm not updating until its compatible, or I find a better alternative.
96carboard said:
What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.
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Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...
Tulsadiver said:
Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...
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I'm concerned about app compatibility, magisk, and how much control I'll lose.
As it is, even on 12, I can't change anything in /system, it's locked RO. I'm tired of not having control over a phone I paid for that's supposedly 'unlocked', but isn't
Tulsadiver said:
Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...
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Could you explain your theory on this?
christiebunny said:
I'm concerned about app compatibility, magisk, and how much control I'll lose.
As it is, even on 12, I can't change anything in /system, it's locked RO. I'm tired of not having control over a phone I paid for that's supposedly 'unlocked', but isn't
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Compatibility seems remarkably intact, magisk works as intended, and there is no evidence of any change in what control you have.
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Could you explain your theory on this?
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Modified SystemUI bootloops.
Tulsadiver said:
Modified SystemUI bootloops.
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Ok? How are you modifying it?
96carboard said:
Ok? How are you modifying it?
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Same way I always have.
Tulsadiver said:
Same way I always have.
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That answer really doesn't help anyone.
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That answer really doesn't help anyone.
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Any like these:
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