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The Biggest Issues and Gripes of the Galaxy Nexus?

Hey folks, I may be swapping my HTC Amaze 4G for a Galaxy Nexus soon, but before I do, I'd like to know the general opinions of the downsides to owning a Galaxy Nexus! I've read about a lot of the weaknesses of the Galaxy Nexus, but until I actually own one, it's pretty hard for me to pinpoint the legitimacy of these points that I see in video reviews and whatnot, so I'd like to ask you guys regarding your first hand experiences with the device. List your complaints about the Galaxy Nexus here, any contribution is appreciated!
What I've come up with so far:
- lack of microSD card
- camera is decent but not as good as it could've been
- although the screen is gorgeous, the pentile display doesn't allow it to be as clear and crisp as it should be
- build quality of the phone leaves much to be desired
I plan on rooting and installing custom ROMs as soon as I bring the device home, so please put that into consideration as well
Thanks in advance!

- lack of microSD card:
this one had me worried too when i first got the nexus but its not that bad you just have to keep and eye on the storage.
- camera is decent but not as good as it could've been:
its still pretty good and plenty good enough for casual pics. This is a phone we;re talking about, any $200 camera will take better pics than most phones maybe with the exception of the nokia 808 but that thing is more camera than phone.
- although the screen is gorgeous, the pentile display doesn't allow it to be as clear and crisp as it should be:
best screen ive used, imo its the best screen on a phone until the gs3 comes out with its rgb 720p super amoled plus screen. There are better screens that are 720p rgb but they are LCD not amoled, depends what you like better both have their advantages.
- build quality of the phone leaves much to be desired:
My major complaint with build quality are the screen inconsistencies. check out this thread for more info. otherwise the phone is solid, i really like the curved design it feels more natural against your face or in your pocket.
if you are getting a straight trade for the amaze than you are getting the better part of the deal.

There is absolutely nothing I can complain about, as I come from a Nexus One. I'm not even entitled to complain.

- pentile... i can see the pixels very easily on my gnex compared to an iphone4... i still prefer AMOLED though
- frontlit CMOS camera
- no cheap pogo-pin charger
everything else about this phone is pretty much perfect

The screen is totally clear as pentile isn't so noticeable at such a high resolution. Not sure where you heard that.
And the build quality is actually superb, super solid and no creaking at all. Its very impressive.

RogerPodacter said:
The screen is totally clear as pentile isn't so noticeable at such a high resolution. Not sure where you heard that.
And the build quality is actually superb, super solid and no creaking at all. Its very impressive.
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I hear a slight creaking from the "lid".

Low ringtone audio

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Low ringtone audio
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volume+ will sort that
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- lack of microSD card
Not an issue for me
- camera is decent but not as good as it could've been
I really wish the camera was better, this is my biggest gripe.
- although the screen is gorgeous, the pentile display doesn't allow it to be as clear and crisp as it should be
Not an issue, love the screen
- build quality of the phone leaves much to be desired
Not an issue, I like the back-plate, curved design and weight off the phone is spread out so it feels optimum light
I was using AKOP and now stock 4.0.4, I sometimes experience data drops, all of a sudden bars turn gray, I just reboot the phone. I'm sure it'll be fixed at some point.
Overall fantastic phone.

My biggest gripe is that I can't think of a gripe. I like being pensive, angry, bitter, despondent, even aggressively violent, but this phone has turned me into a lovable cute like a puppy type cuddle bug.

mudferret said:
My biggest gripe is that I can't think of a gripe. I like being pensive, angry, bitter, despondent, even aggressively violent, but this phone has turned me into a lovable cute like a puppy type cuddle bug.
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This deserves a thank you.

Biggest gripe? Not being able to make a reliable phone call with this device. My device suffers from what's known as the "audio reboot" or "one-way audio" issue. Not every device has this issue so if you buy Nexus, it's a crap shoot. Or, if you enjoy installing custom ROMs you may also not suffer from this issue. And finally, while I haven't found 100% definitive proof of this, it seems that it's only the Verizon/CDMA version that suffers from this... I don't think anyone with the AT&T/GSM version has this problem.
The next update, which was scheduled for "sometime in March" then "early April" - both which came and went and still no update - is supposed to fix this issue. If it does not, I'm going with another device. I need my phone to function as a phone and right now, it does not do that on a reliable basis.
Honestly, other than that one (but very important) issue, the device is flawless.

No SD card is my only gripe but I knew that going in. So I can't complain all that much. Just gotta manage data more often and can't keep backups on phone as aggressively.
bow chicka wow wow.

My complaints are more so concerning the Os as opposed to the phone itself. Sometimes my widgets stop working, Beautiful Home the time stays stuck and I have to reboot. And often times the YouTube widget will not load. I'm using ADW Launcher EX, don't know if that has anything to do with it but it happens. I have screen burn in too. Where the navigation bar is and the virtual buttons on the bottom of the phone. Whenever I watch a full screen video or movie it's noticeable, and it's hard to ignore once you notice it. I wish they would have put in a better GPU and not one that is 2 years old too because the longer I use the phone the more it lags don't know if it's the ram or GPU but it lags from time to time. And the reason Google hasn't fixed whatever needs to be fixed so it can be as smooth as Crapples IOs is beyond me. But it's better than the Nexus One. So I'm good until the Quad Core Nexus is released.
From my Sexii G Nexii 4.0.4

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My complaints are more so concerning the Os as opposed to the phone itself. Sometimes my widgets stop working, Beautiful Home the time stays stuck and I have to reboot. And often times the YouTube widget will not load. I'm using ADW Launcher EX, don't know if that has anything to do with it but it happens. I have screen burn in too. Where the navigation bar is and the virtual buttons on the bottom of the phone. Whenever I watch a full screen video or movie it's noticeable, and it's hard to ignore once you notice it. I wish they would have put in a better GPU and not one that is 2 years old too because the longer I use the phone the more it lags don't know if it's the ram or GPU but it lags from time to time. And the reason Google hasn't fixed whatever needs to be fixed so it can be as smooth as Crapples IOs is beyond me. But it's better than the Nexus One. So I'm good until the Quad Core Nexus is released.
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Nova launcher prime.
bow chicka wow wow.

I only wish that there was universal mass storage or sd card support so the thing would work with my car stereo. Going from stereo integration to aux cable was kind of a buzz kill.
And the camera is ok but I wish it were better too.

The phone is so slick you'll likely drop it and the screen may break. Better get a protective case for it. My Diztronic Rev3 case was inexpensive and adds needed grip. Great phone, otherwise IMHO.

I too came from an Amaze 4g...and man do I miss the camera. I was running bulletproof...but still doesn't come close to how smooth the Gnexus is. If you were looking to upgrade, id say go for it...but if your coming from a sense device, you might wanna check out the HTC one s or X.
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babymatteo said:
I too came from an Amaze 4g...and man do I miss the camera. I was running bulletproof...but still doesn't come close to how smooth the Gnexus is. If you were looking to upgrade, id say go for it...but if your coming from a sense device, you might wanna check out the HTC one s or X.
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I thought I saw your name around the Amaze 4G forums before
I'm sure I'll miss the camera too, but it's a tradeoff I'm willing to make for an overall better phone, plus I never really liked Sense anyway since it has way too much overhead on the OS
Thanks so much for input people, much appreciated!
One thing I forgot to mention was the screen burn-ins, I've heard that they get pretty noticeable after 6 months or so... can anyone provide some insight on this and if there's a possible solution/prevention?

what i hate is the sound whenever i set it on a table or something...it rattles (i know its the autofocus on the camera...its waaaaaay to loose on this phone)

Should i switch from s6?

I am on the fence to get the G4. I love LG because I owned the G2 for the longest time and loved it. I dont like the G4 size (even compared to the s6 or g2).
I love the specs of the s6, but feel as if the G4 doesnt stack up.
I do love the fact I'd be able to root and flash roms without worry of samsung knox.
What are your guy's take?

Stick with the S6.

I have a S6 and my G4 comes today so I will let you know. I've had the G2 and G3 and the only reason I moved on was because the screen broke on the G2 and my headphone jack broke on the G3. Both of those happened from me being clumsy so it's not the phone's fault. I had a note 4 and hated the lag when opening recents menu or opening dialer/answering calls. Got a S6 and I keep experiencing lag with it as well. I'm very excited about going back to LG.

I had a few G3s (16GB models) and they all lagged like hell. I'm finding the S6 pretty smooth, aside from the occasional stutter in Chrome.
Took ownership of a brown leather G4 today and I'm not that smitten with it so far. Camera doesn't seem much better than the S6 at all - in fact it seems worse in many instances, and my camera sometimes shows a pink tint in the middle which the S6 doesn't (under the same scenes).
Overall I don't think it feels anywhere near as premium as the S6, nor as nice in the hand. The glossy plastic around the edges is disappointing as it will pick up scratches and scuffs easily and overall I just don't feel like I enjoy the size and shape of it like I do the S6. The screen also seems to have a wildly inaccurate white balance.
I like that I can stick an SD card in and that it has a replaceable battery but other than that I'm going to struggle to justify NOT taking this back to the store. I'm a bit disappointed to be honest as I've read really good reviews from some critics whose opinions I trust.
Will see what tomorrow brings but personally I'd say hold off for now, especially if you already have an S6.

If you guys already have an S6 and you still want to buy a G4 as well you have too much money.

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If you guys already have an S6 and you still want to buy a G4 as well you have too much money.
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No, I've had issues with all my s6 warranty replacements. So T-Mobile is letting me jump again. So im deciding if i should or hold out.

I used jump to go from the s6edge to the g4 mainly due to the battery life on the s6. Its God awful. Plus, i nuts some of the lg features. The g2 was the best phone I've ever had.
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blackangst said:
I used jump to go from the s6edge to the g4 mainly due to the battery life on the s6. Its God awful. Plus, i nuts some of the lg features. The g2 was the best phone I've ever had.
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I agree. The g2 was amazing! Great form factor, perfect screen size. Large battery
At the same time I do want a nicer premium device.
I just wished the g4 had the 810.. 808 doesn't seem impressive. If the G flex 2 had the 810 then why couldnt they tweak an 810 to perform better like they did 808?

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I agree. The g2 was amazing! Great form factor, perfect screen size. Large battery
At the same time I do want a nicer premium device.
I just wished the g4 had the 810.. 808 doesn't seem impressive. If the G flex 2 had the 810 then why couldnt they tweak an 810 to perform better like they did 808?
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Hardware limitations > software tweaking.

I'm on the same boat, have the S6 but considering the G4.
I know without question the S6 is the better phone. My only gripe with it is battery life. Battery life is abysmal, and if the G4 is a significant improvement then I'm all for swapping out to the G4.
I'm just holding off and waiting for what the feedback is on the T Mobile branded G4... But I have a feeling the abysmal battery life on all current flagship is Android 5.0.2. Which even the Nexus 6 suffered from bad battery life before it was updated to 5.1

Should I eat cupcakes or donuts?

If S6 a better phone ....stick it and stop trolling here. S6 like a tiny iphone 6 xD Life's Good.
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I have an S6 (4 days old) and now I have the G4 (leather). I would stick with the S6 at least that is my opinion after half a day with the G4. The G4 may grow on me, but most likely not enough to keep it over the S6. Biggest factor for my preference of the S6 is build and looks. I will probably end up keeping both though, not sure yet.
Price isnt a factor. Almost the same price.
64GB S6 memorial day sale plus 50$ mail in rebate = 629.99
Leather G4 = 599.00
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Both cameras are good. I prefer that when I quick open the camera on the S6, it doesn't auto snap a photo. That drives me nuts on the G4 and I can't find a way to turn it off.
I prefer the fingerprint reader wake over knock code or knock on wake. It's just better.
Screens are both good, but brightness and sharpness are better on the S6. I like Amoled vibrance. Screen size is nice on the G4 and I'm sure many people out there will prefer it.
I have 64 gb of storage on the S6 and I prefer internal storage over removable storage. Internal is faster. All my media and files are in the cloud so I don't need over 64GB. I still think SD is a nice bonus, but I would prefer a higher internal storage amount on the G4 over SD. I can see why sappable storage may attract others though. I just don't need it.
Battery life has been good for me on the S6. I average 4-5hrs SOT. Regardless of the S6's performance, the G4 comes with 2 swappable batteries and has a huge edge on the S6 in the battery department. This is the biggest positive for me regarding the G4.
Touchwiz beats LG's software in this instance. It's just smoother and better looking with more funtional features. Both phones software have occasional stutters, but LG has far more. It could be the 808 and the Exynos at play here, but I doubt it. That's not to say that some things arent better on the G4 (camera app), they are. Just not enough to sway my opinion.
No quick charger in the box for the G4 is silly. I don't understand that decision.

rogconnect said:
If S6 a better phone ....stick it and stop trolling here. S6 like a tiny iphone 6 xD Life's Good.
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I enjoy flashing roms, double tap to wake and rear buttons. And with expandable storage would be lovely! Just wonder if some things are worth the trade offs.
Will wait for more reviews and feedback.

It's all relative and a matter of personal preferences. Just choose what you think you want.

depends on why you want to switch

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I have an S6 (4 days old) and now I have the G4 (leather). I would stick with the S6 at least that is my opinion after half a day with the G4. The G4 may grow on me, but most likely not enough to keep it over the S6. Biggest factor for my preference of the S6 is build and looks. I will probably end up keeping both though, not sure yet.
Price isnt a factor. Almost the same price.
64GB S6 memorial day sale plus 50$ mail in rebate = 629.99
Leather G4 = 599.00
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Both cameras are good. I prefer that when I quick open the camera on the S6, it doesn't auto snap a photo. That drives me nuts on the G4 and I can't find a way to turn it off.
I prefer the fingerprint reader wake over knock code or knock on wake. It's just better.
Screens are both good, but brightness and sharpness are better on the S6. I like Amoled vibrance. Screen size is nice on the G4 and I'm sure many people out there will prefer it.
I have 64 gb of storage on the S6 and I prefer internal storage over removable storage. Internal is faster. All my media and files are in the cloud so I don't need over 64GB. I still think SD is a nice bonus, but I would prefer a higher internal storage amount on the G4 over SD. I can see why sappable storage may attract others though. I just don't need it.
Battery life has been good for me on the S6. I average 4-5hrs SOT. Regardless of the S6's performance, the G4 comes with 2 swappable batteries and has a huge edge on the S6 in the battery department. This is the biggest positive for me regarding the G4.
Touchwiz beats LG's software in this instance. It's just smoother and better looking with more funtional features. Both phones software have occasional stutters, but LG has far more. It could be the 808 and the Exynos at play here, but I doubt it. That's not to say that some things arent better on the G4 (camera app), they are. Just not enough to sway my opinion.
No quick charger in the box for the G4 is silly. I don't understand that decision.
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You can turn the picture feature off and just double tap to bring up camera.
Fingerprint readers (from S5 at least) are horrible as you have to do it just right and it takes a little while
Weird, I've noticed the bright/sharpness is better on the G4. Just a matter of personal experience and opinion I guess.
Should never rely on cloud storage. Look how well that has worked out for Apple. The G4 can support up to 2TB of storage (even though the largest SD card is only 1/2 a TB). I would never trust non-removable storage, personal reasons.
Nothing to counterpart here (batteries)
I've heard the new Touchwiz has been better than the previous ones. I will find that out tomorrow when my wife gets her S6 setup. I personally am tired of it coming from several Sammy's. I believe the biggest issues is Lollipop issues messing with the phones rather than each UI. Nothing an update can't fix
Meh, that's nothing major.

Dennisg34 said:
You can turn the picture feature off and just double tap to bring up camera.
Fingerprint readers (from S5 at least) are horrible as you have to do it just right and it takes a little while
Weird, I've noticed the bright/sharpness is better on the G4. Just a matter of personal experience and opinion I guess.
Should never rely on cloud storage. Look how well that has worked out for Apple. The G4 can support up to 2TB of storage (even though the largest SD card is only 1/2 a TB). I would never trust non-removable storage, personal reasons.
Nothing to counterpart here (batteries)
I've heard the new Touchwiz has been better than the previous ones. I will find that out tomorrow when my wife gets her S6 setup. I personally am tired of it coming from several Sammy's. I believe the biggest issues is Lollipop issues messing with the phones rather than each UI. Nothing an update can't fix
Meh, that's nothing major.
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Changing that camera setting made the double tap camera feature much better. Is there any way I can activate with double tap camera from the homescreen? I've een playing with the camera in low light for a few hours now, and the G4 has proven to be much better in auto mode than the S6. I'm impressed.
The S5's finger print reader was terrible, as is the reader on my Note 4. The S6's reader is flawless for me.
You can't really compare brightness/sharpness if you don't currently have an S6 or had an S6 as you mentioned. (See bold) The S6 has a considerably higher brightness. That isn't opnion, it's fact and I believe that almost every flagship is brighter than the G4. Sharpeness is negligible though. Both screens are sharp.
When I was referring to the cloud = Cloud would be Play movies, Netflix, Google Play streaming, Hulu etc. Relying on those for media consumption doesn't seem risky to me. I save pictures with Google Photo's and One drive. Seems redundant enough to keep my pictures safe.
Everything is dependant on the user's needs and perception like other users have stated. I can see why someone would choose either phone depending on needs. The S6 just fits my wants/needs better. My oldest kid likes the G4 though, so It won't be going back to TMO now. We can retire his G3 instead.
I don't know if updates will fix everything with the G4. Updates never fixed the G3's stuttering (forour unit at least).
True, not having the Quick charger isn't a big deal especially if you already have a few laying around. I believe we have 4 or 5 of them in our house. Plus the spare battery really makes it useless. Still, I would have liked to have another anyway

Can you tell me if your G4 has a pinkish hue in the middle when you use the camera in low light with certain backgrounds? Seems more noticeable on grey or white backgrounds, and is not noticeable at all in normal light.

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Changing that camera setting made the double tap camera feature much better. Is there any way I can activate with double tap camera from the homescreen? I've een playing with the camera in low light for a few hours now, and the G4 has proven to be much better in auto mode than the S6. I'm impressed.
The S5's finger print reader was terrible, as is the reader on my Note 4. The S6's reader is flawless for me.
You can't really compare brightness/sharpness if you don't currently have an S6 or had an S6 as you mentioned. (See bold) The S6 has a considerably higher brightness. That isn't opnion, it's fact and I believe that almost every flagship is brighter than the G4. Sharpeness is negligible though. Both screens are sharp.
When I was referring to the cloud = Cloud would be Play movies, Netflix, Google Play streaming, Hulu etc. Relying on those for media consumption doesn't seem risky to me. I save pictures with Google Photo's and One drive. Seems redundant enough to keep my pictures safe.
Everything is dependant on the user's needs and perception like other users have stated. I can see why someone would choose either phone depending on needs. The S6 just fits my wants/needs better. My oldest kid likes the G4 though, so It won't be going back to TMO now. We can retire his G3 instead.
I don't know if updates will fix everything with the G4. Updates never fixed the G3's stuttering (forour unit at least).
True, not having the Quick charger isn't a big deal especially if you already have a few laying around. I believe we have 4 or 5 of them in our house. Plus the spare battery really makes it useless. Still, I would have liked to have another anyway
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So you found the change setting? I'm not sure about the home setting. I currently don't have the phone until Monday (I've researched/read reviews about the phone and played with it in the store)
If they finally fixed the fingerprint issue, that's great! Just from watching the videos online I see you had to sorta long press the finger, rather than a few knocks on the scree. All a matter of personal preference which you like for this
I can compare this by Monday. Wife will activate her S6 later today and I'll be able to come back with this then! Do you have it auto-brightness or all the way up for both when you compared? In the store, the G4's seemed a tad better. I've seen the outside test (from numerous videos) when it's bright outside, the G4's was more superior being able to see better.
Ahh OK, miscommunication there! I still just prefer external SD. Can take out phone, swap between phones, tablets, computer etc rather than physically having to hook up and transfer/view.
I agree, everything is a matter of personal preference on these. I meant no harm or foul with you was just throwing my two cents back to your points! I will be able to properly tell by Monday the pros/cons of daily usage and everything between the two. I've always been a Sammy guy, this will be my first phone in years that's not them. I like to have BL's unlocked and being on Verizon, I have a 99.99% change this will happen on the G4 (as G3 was within a couple months) than I EVER will on the S6. One thing I might take some time getting used to is no physical "home" button as well as the other symbols for recents/back.

Anyone switch from Galaxy S7 edge?

Has anyone switched from the S7or S7 Edge to the OnePlus 3? I am considering it simply because of the lack of root. If someone can give suggestions that has used both devices, i would appreciate it. Thanks.

I own both devices. I haven't decided yet which one to keep. The One Plus 3 is definitely a better value.
The camera and screen are definitely nicer on S7 Edge.
I own the AT&T S7 Edge and wished I had purchased the international version.
Honestly, you won't go wrong with either.
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Scuk said:
Has anyone switched from the S7or S7 Edge to the OnePlus 3? I am considering it simply because of the lack of root. If someone can give suggestions that has used both devices, i would appreciate it. Thanks.
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I can't imagine many people doing that.

I did and its amazing.. I had the S7 Edge with Exynos. Between the S7 Edge and OP3 I have had the Huawei P9 Chinese (AL10) and even the P9 performs better than the S7 Edge.. but OP3 rocks all away.. AnTuTu with around 142k, P9 have 99k, only S7 I forgot..
I had some big problems on the S7 Edge with the Edges, they didn´t recognized, even with the actual firmware.. that was the reason t oswitch to the P9.. but I´m still not 100% happy.. the OP3 seems to fix this for me.. I´m totally happy for now
Fixed the RAM issue..
Maybe I can update my experiences in a few days more detailed

Me. I loved the Edge but that split second Samsung lag was getting beyond annoying. Also the fingerprint reader on the OP3 feels 3 classes above

I have too. I took many pictures side by side and there was very little difference that I could tell. I will miss the waterproofing and the bigger battery but I never used the edge features and the ability to root and get a decent tempered glass screen swung it for me. That and I got an extra £150 in my back pocket

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Me. I loved the Edge but that split second Samsung lag was getting beyond annoying. Also the fingerprint reader on the OP3 feels 3 classes above
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Mmmmh, my advise to the OP ... don't believe everything you read here ... .
S7Edge user here (Exynos version). - Display, Water/Dust Resistance, Battery ... to name just a few. Not much of a comparison. Then add a likely superior camera/video performance, expandable storage, wireless charging, better headphone sound (Exynos version) ... looks (subjective).
Still, all this comes at a price and Touch Whizz is arguably not the most favourite interface but its perfectly workable and the end result is very, very good.
I am not arguing about the value of the Oneplus 3 and I am considering one to replace my Elephone P9000 as a second (work) phone but not until they (OnePlus3) have attempted to fix the display on the 3. However, that may or may not be technically possible.
I tried to post a link to an in-depth technical review of the 3 on here but the mods deleted it. You can find it on Anandtech's website, published today.
So, personally I'd unquestionably hang on to your S7E!

IF you had the US galaxy s7 edge (i have a t-mobile version) then you'd probably feel good about the switch to Oneplus 3.
These are the things I don't miss - from the s7
- poor battery life on the Snapdragon version
- samsung UI lag and the fact that I have to disable nearly every bloat to get the device to a decent working state
- locked bootloader and no end in sight for root availability
- regret of not buying the exynos variant
Things i actually miss:
- Stellar low light camera
- F**kin amazing low light and indoor pictures
- may be that marginal flexibility of being cool about not charging it overnight.

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Mmmmh, my advise to the OP ... don't believe everything you read here ... .
S7Edge user here (Exynos version). - Display, Water/Dust Resistance, Battery ... to name just a few. Not much of a comparison. Then add a likely superior camera/video performance.
Still, all this comes at a price and Touch Whizz is arguably not the most favourite interface but its perfectly workable and the end result is very, very good.
I am not arguing about the value of the Oneplus 3 and I am considering one to replace my Elephone P9000 as a second (work) phone but not until they (OnePlus3) have attempted to fix the display on the 3. However, that may or may not be technically possible.
I tried to post a link to an in-depth technical review of the 3 on here but the mods deleted it. You can find it on Anandtech's website, published today.
So, personally I'd unquestionably hang on to your S7E!
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I have both devices. Just being honest.
Even after disabling packages it lags, which is s shame. Battery is amazing though. Owned it since release, ebaying it this week

3473 said:
I have both devices. Just being honest.
Even after disabling packages it lags, which is s shame. Battery is amazing though. Owned it since release, ebaying it this week
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I am sorry to hear that. Personally my version is lightening fast but it is not uncommon for phones to slow down over time (LG are known for that but others do it too). To find the exact reason is very difficult as user preferences/installations etc vary dramatically from person to person.
Touch Whizz is not the most intuitive UI but it generally doesn't slow down an operating system. Todays processors are easily able to handle the slight increase in workload over a stock Android install and then some.

drummerman said:
Mmmmh, my advise to the OP ... don't believe everything you read here ... .
S7Edge user here (Exynos version). - Display, Water/Dust Resistance, Battery ... to name just a few. Not much of a comparison. Then add a likely superior camera/video performance, expandable storage, wireless charging, better headphone sound (Exynos version) ... looks (subjective).
Still, all this comes at a price and Touch Whizz is arguably not the most favourite interface but its perfectly workable and the end result is very, very good.
I am not arguing about the value of the Oneplus 3 and I am considering one to replace my Elephone P9000 as a second (work) phone but not until they (OnePlus3) have attempted to fix the display on the 3. However, that may or may not be technically possible.
I tried to post a link to an in-depth technical review of the 3 on here but the mods deleted it. You can find it on Anandtech's website, published today.
So, personally I'd unquestionably hang on to your S7E!
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What is the display issue you mention here?

I have both, but haven't properly tested the Oneplus 3. I'm on my 3rd S7 edge though. I do love the phone, but I kinda feel its a bit delicate. I also love the balance on the Oneplus and the speed of the fingerprint sensor smashes the S7 egde. I don't like physical home buttons either. Always feel like eventually they will wear out and get sticky. I'm really excited to try out the gaming performance of the Oneplus though, genuinely cant wait!

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What is the display issue you mention here?
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It's totally squewed up. Measurements are some of the worst tested (Anandtech review of the 3 today, can't post a link but if you head over there you find a more in-depth review including test bench measurements, than most other, subjective testing sites).
It just so happens that I am quite sensitive to large display aberrations. Of all the phones I've had the P9000's superb display is still my benchmark but talking of which (benchmarks), Samsungs S7 line are the most accurately measuring displays of any phones, depending on setting and which standard you want it to apply to.
Even so, as with most Amoled displays, whites are not usually as pure as from an accurately calibrated high Quality LCD but on the S7, its as a compromise I'm ok to make for the benefits.
OnePlus should probably have fitted a good LCD (ala MI5) rather than go for the headline grabbing but probably cheap and old Amoled version fitted.
Still, an update may come some way towards solving some of the issues. I wait to see.
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I have both, but haven't properly tested the Oneplus 3. I'm on my 3rd S7 edge though. I do love the phone, but I kinda feel its a bit delicate. I also love the balance on the Oneplus and the speed of the fingerprint sensor smashes the S7 egde. I don't like physical home buttons either. Always feel like eventually they will wear out and get sticky. I'm really excited to try out the gaming performance of the Oneplus though, genuinely cant wait!
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Gaming performance will be the same.

If oneplus had faster updates I might think about switching but that doesn't seem to be the case so far. My s6 edge plus got marshmallow before the oneplus 2 by 2 months . Now that I have the s7 edge I can't justify the switch unless I'm going to make a good profit on it otherwise I think I'm going to keep it and wait for the nexus 2016.

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It's totally squewed up. Measurements are some of the worst tested (Anandtech review of the 3 today, can't post a link but if you head over there you find a more in-depth review including test bench measurements, than most other, subjective testing sites).
It just so happens that I am quite sensitive to large display aberrations. Of all the phones I've had the P9000's superb display is still my benchmark but talking of which (benchmarks), Samsungs S7 line are the most accurately measuring displays of any phones, depending on setting and which standard you want it to apply to.
Even so, as with most Amoled displays, whites are not usually as pure as from an accurately calibrated high Quality LCD but on the S7, its as a compromise I'm ok to make for the benefits.
OnePlus should probably have fitted a good LCD (ala MI5) rather than go for the headline grabbing but probably cheap and old Amoled version fitted.
Still, an update may come some way towards solving some of the issues. I wait to see.
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Gaming performance will be the same.
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Not likely, the SD820 has a better GPU.

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Not likely, the SD820 has a better GPU.
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They are all but indistinguishable. No games available will test them to their limits.
Pointless comparison.
Personally, I feel that processors have reached limits which are all but useless for the majority of users, even power users.
Manufacturers should now concentrate on other, more important aspects such as increased battery life, water resistance and good quality displays.
OnePLus3's effort is not close enough yet, instead concentrating on headline grabbing things like a top processor. In the process economising elsewhere but like I said, it looks good for the price and I am considering changing the P9000 (if OP can sort the display).

I have both phones, my S7 edge is from Tmo so it also have a locked bootloader. Since I love flashing roms and all I just could not stick with the S7 edge. Also it is laggy as fk and it even takes long just to get to settings. I'm going to miss the great camera in low light but that's about it. This phone OP3 it's so fast and already have a great support from devs. I wouldn't think it twice. I'm just going to sell my S7 edge this week.

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I own both devices. I haven't decided yet which one to keep. The One Plus 3 is definitely a better value.
The camera and screen are definitely nicer on S7 Edge.
I own the AT&T S7 Edge and wished I had purchased the international version.
Honestly, you won't go wrong with either.
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I have both and I am trying to decide what to do. The S7e battery is much better and the screen on the OP3 is lacking. The camera is ok on the OP3 , but no where near as good as the s7e/ The OP3 is snappier but my battery is already at 80% after only 3 hrs at work. The OP3 is VERY thin, they should have made it a little thicker and squeezed a 3600 mah battery in it.

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I have both phones, my S7 edge is from Tmo so it also have a locked bootloader. Since I love flashing roms and all I just could not stick with the S7 edge. Also it is laggy as fk and it even takes long just to get to settings. I'm going to miss the great camera in low light but that's about it. This phone OP3 it's so fast and already have a great support from devs. I wouldn't think it twice. I'm just going to sell my S7 edge this week.
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Same here. My S7 lags switching tabs when setting an alarm in the official clock app. That's when I decided enough was enough. This OP3 is lightning quick. I don't have that slight jerk to every animation that have on my S7 Edge
This feels better too. I don't accidentally touch the screen because the screen is curved towards my hand holding the phone

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Same here. My S7 lags switching tabs when setting an alarm in the official clock app. That's when I decided enough was enough. This OP3 is lightning quick. I don't have that slight jerk to every animation that have on my S7 Edge
This feels better too. I don't accidentally touch the screen because the screen is curved towards my hand holding the phone
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It may be quicker now, a day or so old but I'd put money on it that a few months down the line, after numerous custom rom installations, a bunch of loaded games and the usual app catalogue etc. it won't quite feel the same

V30 First Impressions Thread

Figured we probably needed a place to put everyone's first impressions.
I'll start with first, this thing is small and light! Coming from a V20 and a Nexus 6 before that, this thing is tiny. Last time I felt like I had a phone this size was the Galaxy Nexus. (Yeah, I know. That one was probably actually smaller than this but still, this thing feels that small in hand to me. I've been using nothing but phablets since that phone.) It feels closer in size to my work iPhone 6s than my V20. That's going to take some getting used to. It's in a case now but still feels small.
Still trying to get used to some app behaviors that seemed to have changed. For instance, Weather Channel app is having all kinds of issues. Shows as a sensitive notification on the lock screen vs my V20 where it isn't, because it isn't. The widget doesn't display information without being cut off. I still need to go log into all my apps and get them set up.
Camera. Haven't really taken any shots with it yet but I did dig through it. First, I'm not happy that it always opens in auto mode. The V20 would open in whatever mode you last had it in. I prefer manual mode and liked that I could just open it, make a quick adjustment to the settings and shoot. Now I have to dive into a menu to get to manual then make adjustments and shoot. It'll slow things down quite a bit. I am happy that Graphy can be shut off. Also, noise reduction can be shut off in manual. It was actually disabled by default. Going to do a lot of test shooting today.
Hoping to hit up the museum I used to work in and always test every camera I own there. Also hitting up an outdoor night event here as well as the jazz club. It's going to get one helluva workout today! Going to take my V20 and Nikon V3 along too. Not sure how much I'll use the V3 outside of the outdoor event. Not going to bother taking my DSLR. (I'm actually in the process of downsizing my photography to smaller cameras. DSLRs have gotten way too clean and clinical for my tastes.)

Nice! I can’t wait to see the pics it takes.

I played with this at Verizon yesterday, and I'm still on the fence. The front facing camera was HORRIBLE. I held my G5 next to it and took a selfie, and the G5 was so much better. The rear camera did seem to take awesome shots, but still slow to take and delay in swiping between front and back cameras, something I really thought they'd have a better handle on by now since I had the same issues in the G4 and G5. I loved it otherwise, I think it's a gorgeous phone, I like the looks a lot more than the Galaxy phones.
I went in wanting the phone, but two separate Verizon reps were adamant in saying I should stay away from LG, that they have nothing but problems, they only sold maybe 2 G6's, they have class action lawsuits against them, and they tell customers to go take a hike when asking for a new phone after having multiple of them die in a row from a known defect. Theyd rather keep sending you defective phones repeatedly under warranty. So idk. I'm reeeally torn between this and the S8+ which has very similar specs and is cheaper at this point, but I don't like having only one rear camera.

Initial results at the museum are looking pretty good. I'm impressed so far for the most part. As for selfie camera issues, I was disappointed at first until I figured out those stupid settings at the bottom of the screen. After you turn off the skin toning and lightning, the images are much better. Then they work well with post processing.

Have you had a chance to play w Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi/Data connection? My G4 had bad bluetooth disconnections and busted gps in the G5. Just curious how the different antennae have been working for you. Good battery life?

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Have you had a chance to play w Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi/Data connection? My G4 had bad bluetooth disconnections and busted gps in the G5. Just curious how the different antennae have been working for you. Good battery life?
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Haven't played with GPS yet. I can't really speak to how well or not how well it works. I used wifi during set-up. It worked but my wifi is slower than my network connection and I regretted using it. Not a knock on the wifi of this phone, it's just that my carrier network is that much faster than my home wifi. Only BT I've done so far is to connect it to my car. That went much better and smoother than my V20. It took me many attempts over an hour and a half to get my V20 and car paired. The V30 paired the first time. The next test will be to see if I have to restart my phone after a few days to keep the connection from going wonky. (Which is a ritual with my V20 that occurred at least once a week.)

I got mine this past Friday. It is slippery to hold, you will def need a case to keep it from sliding out of your hand. I'm still not sure why designers can make insanely powerful devices but can't figure out that you actually need to hold on to it to use it. I'll probably get a DBrand skin or equiv when they are available. It is super light. Kinda feels flimsy it is so lightweight even though it is not. My last phone was a Nexus 6P, before that an HTC M9, before that an HTC M7. All three of those feel like tanks by comparison. I'm not sure yet if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Camera is nice but uses a lot of noise reduction. It has endless options that will take some time getting used to. I'm not sure yet if it is as good as HTC's U11 which as an incredible camera IMO (my GF has a U11). Looks better than my Nexus 6p for sure though. Much faster too. I love the wide angle lens!
Audio from Headphone jack is insane. I'm using the BEATS headphones from my old HTC One, I can only imagine how good it would sound with high end headphones. Phone speaker is ehhh. Nowheres near as good as HTC or Google phones with front facing speakers. Or HTC U11 which seems to have crazy sound magically radiate into space.
As for speed, its as fast as any other 2017 phone I have tried, the hardware is all the same. The screen is amazing. I mean AMAZING! I can't really see a difference between 1080 and 1440 quality or speed wise. I thought at first there was but now think it is more of a placebo effect. I have been keeping it maxed mostly for the bragging rights of it being higher rez than Apple's silly Superduper mega retina display, what ever that means.
It is to early for me to tell if battery life makes a difference with resolution. I have read it is supposed to eat more power with the higher rez. It isn't as near bezelless as I thought it would be. It seems to be a marketing trend for company renders to show super edge to edge displays until you actually get it and there are good sized bezels. Not that I mind, it is just something I noticed. The screens are not any larger, the phone is just shrinking around it making the device seem small and the screen seem smaller than it is. My Nexus 6p dwarfs the V30 in the hand and the display just feels larger on the Nexus even though it is not. Kind of another odd placebo effect.
Speaking of battery, it seems to last well over a day of playing hard with it but is still to early to tell since I keep plugging it in to transfer files. After the newness wears off I think I will be able to get 2 days out of it.
The power button, or lack there of is great I think. Instead of a dedicated button, it is just the fingerprint scanner. You can click it, hold it to open restart options etc. Works great and is non intrusive by comparison to a dedicated button that I usually hit by accident all the time.
The UI is not terrible. It is fast and responsive. For the record I am a fanboy of Sense and Stock. LG's UI has a lot more options for customization over Stock but some things seem like they just changed from stock to say they did. Especially in the Settings menu where they feel extra pages of settings tabs is preferable than a simple list. The worst part is LG's apps that are mostly broken or limited.
Contacts doesn't work right and crashes sometimes when I try and edit a contact. You can not fully disable it. I'm using Google Contacts when it will let me.
Calendar is ok, about the same as Google Calendar. Again you can not fully disable it for some reason.
Camera app is good so far, or at least I like it.
Messaging app sux. It freezes sometimes and when it works you can't insert gifs. Again you can't disable it. I'm using Google's Messenger.
Keyboard is limited, I just use the Google Keyboard.
Gallery is simple and works for on device pix but doesn't allow cloud access. Since most of my pix are on GoogleDrive I just use Google Photos. And again you can't disable it.
Smart Cleaning is a cleaner app. The phone is so fast I can't see any difference after using it.
LG Health I haven't tried yet.
LG Smart World is just some LG app browsing thing. Haven't really played with it other than browsing themes.
So far I love the phone. Out of 2017 phones I have used the HTC U11 and Essential Phone I like the V30 best of those 3. My biggest complaint is I just wish you could at least disable the LG bloatware apps so they can't start up. Maybe there is a special way to do it aside from rooting the device and going that route.
Hope this helps anyone considering the V30
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Figured we probably needed a place to put everyone's first impressions.
I'll start with first, this thing is small and light! Coming from a V20 and a Nexus 6 before that, this thing is tiny. Last time I felt like I had a phone this size was the Galaxy Nexus. (Yeah, I know. That one was probably actually smaller than this but still, this thing feels that small in hand to me. I've been using nothing but phablets since that phone.) It feels closer in size to my work iPhone 6s than my V20. That's going to take some getting used to. It's in a case now but still feels small.
Still trying to get used to some app behaviors that seemed to have changed. For instance, Weather Channel app is having all kinds of issues. Shows as a sensitive notification on the lock screen vs my V20 where it isn't, because it isn't. The widget doesn't display information without being cut off. I still need to go log into all my apps and get them set up.
Camera. Haven't really taken any shots with it yet but I did dig through it. First, I'm not happy that it always opens in auto mode. The V20 would open in whatever mode you last had it in. I prefer manual mode and liked that I could just open it, make a quick adjustment to the settings and shoot. Now I have to dive into a menu to get to manual then make adjustments and shoot. It'll slow things down quite a bit. I am happy that Graphy can be shut off. Also, noise reduction can be shut off in manual. It was actually disabled by default. Going to do a lot of test shooting today.
Hoping to hit up the museum I used to work in and always test every camera I own there. Also hitting up an outdoor night event here as well as the jazz club. It's going to get one helluva workout today! Going to take my V20 and Nikon V3 along too. Not sure how much I'll use the V3 outside of the outdoor event. Not going to bother taking my DSLR. (I'm actually in the process of downsizing my photography to smaller cameras. DSLRs have gotten way too clean and clinical for my tastes.)
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My biggest complaint is I just wish you could at least disable the LG bloatware apps so they can't start up. Maybe there is a special way to do it aside from rooting the device and going that route.
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Yep. This method works on G6, so it should work on V30 also, be careful on what you disable, you could potentially brick the device.
BTW any display problems? And what variant did you buy?

Thanks! As for the variant, I have the AT&T 64gig one. There are a few AT&T apps, all can be disabled. I actually use a few of them. And no display problems that I have seen. I think the display is one of the best parts of the device.

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I got mine this past Friday...
Hope this helps anyone considering the V30
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Awesome overview :good: Although I already ordered v30 (black, 64gb) from South Korea, it was still nice to read, especially regarding the screen/size. I am not a fan of 18:9 in general since native support is still behind (cropped,zoomed videos), but I like what LG does - basically putting 18:9 screen in a more like 16:9 frame.. this makes it look much better than sausage-style s8/s8+/note8.

Here’s my V30+ first impressions. Will do a deep dive on the camera and audio soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/0...adphone-jack-with-quad-dac-wireless-charging/

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Here’s my V30+ first impressions. Will do a deep dive on the camera and audio soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/0...adphone-jack-with-quad-dac-wireless-charging/
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Interesting review. Where did you get your B&O branded V30+ in UK? I thought they only had the V30? Did you get it from Italy or elsewhere?
I watched your full YouTube review and I agree people are selling the camera on this phone short. Interesting that all your friends chose the LG V30+ pictures over the Pixel 2 XL pictures. That's one reason I'm not really going to mess with the Pixel camera port.

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Interesting review. Where did you get your B&O branded V30+ in UK? I thought they only had the V30? Did you get it from Italy or elsewhere?
I watched your full YouTube review and I agree people are selling the camera on this phone short. Interesting that all your friends chose the LG V30+ pictures over the Pixel 2 XL pictures. That's one reason I'm not really going to mess with the Pixel camera port.
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Thanks. You’re right. UK only gets standard V30. Wondamobile supplied the V30+. The Pixel 2 will take better pics , but like everything it depends on the scene. I was out this morning with my Canon & V30+ and will get a post up next week with the results.

Ok. Audio review now done on the LG V30 covering speaker, Bluetooth, wired and type c. Over a dozen headphones used too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/1...-wired-over-12-different-headphones-compared/

I'm on my second Sprint lg v30 plus. Had to exchange the first one due to digitizer issues. On one side of the screen. It only responded to taps. My luck I guess.. Overall I like the device. It's light, fast and has a nice design. The camera sucks tho compared to my s8+ especially in low light. Not a bad camera but no where near the pixel 2 or Samsung phones. Was going to get the note 8 but I doubt that will ever get twrp. Hopefully this device gets root and twrp

Ok full review is finished now. Includes a camera showcase and 32 reasons why it's the best phone in the world, with the 32nd reason the best one.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/01/28/lg-v30-review-camera-showcase-this-is-the-best-phone-in-2018/

My opinion - V30+ vs S8+...

So, after using this V30+ a while, I have a few thoughts on using it verses the S8+.
Storage - V30+ (128gb vs 64gb)
Screen - V30+ (better form factor. The S8+ is too tall.)
Fingerprint - V30+ (better location. More comfortable to use/natural.)
Headphone jack V30+ (I actually like it on the top. It's out of the way when I hold the phone. And when in my pocket, it's faced down and doesn't get in the way when I grab my phone. I carry my phone upside down. I also use earbuds with a longer cable than normal, so it had enough to justify the extra length.)
Sound - V30+ (quad DAC. The bottom firing speakers are pretty much even on both phones.)
Screen - undecided (I've had issues with previous S8+'s and think both have issues.)
Camera - undecided (S8+ has a really good auto camera and I use that most. But the V30+ has wide view. S8+ had a better selfie camera, but I don't take selfies.)
OS V30+ (I like multiple do not disturb options. More options for navigation buttons. It integrates better with Google backups on certain things like quick memo. I like simple things like how the notification icons are located correctly - when using a VPN, it puts the icon on the right with the rest that sit there constantly. I like that I don't have to confirm the volume adjust after the first initial time. 3rd party music apps sync info on LG as Samsung would only sync Google play music and Samsung music. Auto rotate works instantly with LG as opposed too Samsung. I also like knock code and double tap to wake. Brightness slider - while you can drag the one on the S8+ on auto, you can just tap the icon next to the slider on the V30+ and it jumps from "0" to 50 to 90. Mostly what I use.)
Security - S8+ (I miss the app lock mostly, as I could lock apps and they wouldn't show on the launcher or as being installed. Fingerprint is the same on both and I couldn't care less about Knox. But Samsung still wins imo because app lock.)
Gaming V30+ (the phone barely gets warm. The S8+ use to get pretty warm. The blacks on this look better during gaming to me. It may just be me, but it does. The V30+ has more memory for storing more games, so that's a plus. The headphone jack plays a role here too. It's on the top left in landscape mode - it's out of the way when I grip the phone.)
Buttons - V30+ (Bixby..... Nuff said.)
Battery - V30+ (hands down. I had 7+hrs sot yesterday alone. I'm at 4.5hrs right now with 45% battery left. S8+ I got 4-5 depending on the day.) I mainly use Bluetooth streaming, headphones, web browsing, XDA, Reddit, news apps, YouTube and some gaming.)
Notifications - S8+ (led notification light and the camera flash only flashes briefly. The V30+ flashes too long on the camera flash with the setting turned on.)
Usability - V30+ (it's not as tall, therefore it's easier to use/hold imo. No Bixby button so I don't hit that on this phone and throw off my intended task. The location of the power button - I use to hit that when adjusting the volume on the S8+ with one hand. The weight is better on the V30+. It's not top heavy. I couldn't care less about having a heavy phone to make it "feel more premium". I'd rather have a lighter phone as I hold it and don't need that awkward top heavy form factor for it to "feel premium".)
Looks V30+ (come on now. Look at it - LOOK AT IT!. Seriously. The black back has a pattern to it and that looks cool to me. Even if it's covered by a case. At the end of the day, LG put more thought in the final design appearance than Samsung. And that speaks for itself. The fingerprint button also seems like it'll take less scratches over time as it's matte and not shiny. Again - Bixby. No edged screen - I dealt with it on the S8+, but I never liked it.)
And that's what I've come up with on my opinion on the V30+ vs the S8+. If my opinion seems fanboy based, trust me, it's not. I own a lot of phones and favor none because of who makes them. I judge a phone on how it performs for my daily needs. I may point out flaws with phones, but if people don't, the manufactures will never take notice and fix those flaws with future releases.
Thanks for reading. Remember, at the end of the day, these are just objects and mean nothing in the end. ?
TLDR; to bad, read it anyways.

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Memory - V30+ (128gb vs 64gb)
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No phone has 128gb or 64gb of, "MEMORY."
Storage, yes. Memory, no.
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No phone has 128gb or 64gb of, "MEMORY."
Storage, yes. Memory, no.
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My fault, you know what I meant.

20degrees said:
And that's what I've come up with on my opinion on the V30+ vs the S8+. If my opinion seems fanboy based, trust me, it's not. I own a lot of phones and favor none because of who makes them. I judge a phone on how it performs for my daily needs. I may point out flaws with phones, but if people don't, the manufactures will never take notice and fix those flaws with future releases.
Thanks for reading. Remember, at the end of the day, these are just objects and mean nothing in the end.
TLDR; to bad, read it anyways.
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Oh, it's you, lg's hater. now you know that V30 in almost in every real life aspect not worse or even better than S8.
How's screen unevenness? How's black crush? What about real PWM in V30?

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My fault, you know what I meant.
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LOL.
Trolllolololololol.
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surprised to see this post from you, with how much you complained about the brightness issues. Glad you're happy with it. I'm guessing you got a good display that doesn't exhibit banding.

S8+ beats lgv30 and 30+ hands down
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Oh, it's you, lg's hater. now you know that V30 in almost in every real life aspect not worse or even better than S8.
How's screen unevenness? How's black crush? What about real PWM in V30?
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There's backing issues. I'm on number 6. ?
I'm not an "LG hater". I'm just straight up with things and refuse to let any companies flaws slip under the cracks. PWM?
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surprised to see this post from you, with how much you complained about the brightness issues. Glad you're happy with it. I'm guessing you got a good display that doesn't exhibit banding.
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It has banding. I posted in the screen thread. I'm started to think though, that this is more of a software issue rather than a screen issue. The banding had a lot to do with the screen settings. I can get the banding to disappear at times by adjusting the resolution, blue light filter and auto brightness. It's very odd. Last night I had auto brightness on and the screen would flash from dark black to red just sitting there with the screen on and no change in ambient light. ?

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S8+ beats lgv30 and 30+ hands down
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I can understand your opinion. ?

But i like the v30
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PWM?
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It's about those annoying flickering

Thanks.
Very interested in the design aspect of it... It looks so bland in the reviews but everyone, EVERYONE, says it actually is a pretty device.
For me that makes a difference.

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Thanks.
Very interested in the design aspect of it... It looks so bland in the reviews but everyone, EVERYONE, says it actually is a pretty device.
For me that makes a difference.
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Oh, it looks way better to me than the s8+.

I used V10 for 9 months, and then S8+ Exynos for 5 months. I just got V30+ for 2 days. And my experience is same with you. V30+ is pretty good. Missed the led notification light, the "heavy" (V30+ is too light, IMO) & Samsung Services (Galaxy Elite, Galaxy Gift, Samsung Pay,...)

Ive got s8+ now and my experience:
V30:
+ Lighter
+ I like the flat screen more because less reflections
+ I feel that LG skin is less bloat then Samsung
+ Vibrator - feels more like apple haptic device on newer iPhones
+/- Quad DAC i dont use high impedance headphones only in ear so dont need that much power. Apart from that SQ is good on both
- Screen white balance is just bad and yes i tried playing with settings
- General screen issues that people where having poor QA from LG
- Camera especially the front one
S8+:
+ Dual Sim
+ I was able to get it for £550 new sealed and yes i know you can get V30+ Dual Sim cheap but bootloader is locked
+ More Imersive screen
+ Better calibrated screen and mode vivid colours in Adaptive mode
- There is slight more banding on gradient in Adaptive mode but when its RGB its way more
- Finger reader bad position