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[Q] m8 verizon convert to HTC Europe

Hello!
i have an Verizon s-off M8, My question is if is possible to convert (change CID/MID) in to a HTC Europe (with a last firmware). I use it only in gsm band. it is possible?!

Nope, as it's a CDMA device not GSM

EddyOS said:
Nope, as it's a CDMA device not GSM
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Sorry to ask this like a month later, but I had a similar question as the OP. Why wouldn't it be possible if I only wanted to use my phone in Europe on the GSM bands? I've been using it with a ROM for the international phones and it works fine. But I was also wondering if I could flash the newest firmware and 4.4.3 upgrade to use some of the newer ROMs for the international versions, like ARHD 10.2.

AmbitiousDonut said:
Sorry to ask this like a month later, but I had a similar question as the OP. Why wouldn't it be possible if I only wanted to use my phone in Europe on the GSM bands? I've been using it with a ROM for the international phones and it works fine. But I was also wondering if I could flash the newest firmware and 4.4.3 upgrade to use some of the newer ROMs for the international versions, like ARHD 10.2.
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HI! Can you give me more details? I've just received the verizon variant (bought from an online store) in Europe.. I would like to "convert" it to international version so I could get official updates from HTC via OTA. IS that possible?

DSF said:
HI! Can you give me more details? I've just received the verizon variant (bought from an online store) in Europe.. I would like to "convert" it to international version so I could get official updates from HTC via OTA. IS that possible?
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I don't think you can convert it over to the international edition, although I could be wrong, since some of the partitions, firmware, and actual hardware (like the CDMA receiver) are different. Given how buggy just some of the ROMs are with the int'l kernel built in, I would be worried about bricking the phone trying to actually convert it to be able to receive OTAs.
What you can do check out some of the ROMs that let you pick which variant to install. After you boot that up once, you'll probably need to reflash the stock VZW kernel (or read around and see if Verizon users got other kernels to work with the ROM). It's kind of trial and error. A lot of times I ended up without wifi or service until I found a kernel that worked.
For updates, (this part sucks) you'll have to wait for the Verizon phones to receive them in the US. Someone usually makes a set a files you can flash since we can't get the OTAs for VZW here and a lot of people don't want to go through the hassle of going back to close to stock to get them. Make a backup, flash those, and go on your way!
But, you'll have to follow the updates and such for VZW phones and then just use a ROM to make it like an int'l versions.
I've been running the int'l version of Paranoid Android and before that ARHD and it's been fine. I used venom and I think n8 before that but it would only install the VZW version so I had to use ROM Cleaner and take out a lot of crap. The roaming triangles were annoying enough that I gave up on venom even though I like the ROM.

AmbitiousDonut said:
I don't think you can convert it over to the international edition, although I could be wrong, since some of the partitions, firmware, and actual hardware (like the CDMA receiver) are different. Given how buggy just some of the ROMs are with the int'l kernel built in, I would be worried about bricking the phone trying to actually convert it to be able to receive OTAs.
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THanks for the reply. I think I will return it back.. I wanted a stock experience (eg: when HTC launch an update I DONT Need to wait for verizon to release an update).
I paid lots of money (~700$) for a contract free phone and got a branded phone (not sim-locked by branded is enough) . What a sh*t situation.

DSF said:
THanks for the reply. I think I will return it back.. I wanted a stock experience (eg: when HTC launch an update I DONT Need to wait for verizon to release an update).
I paid lots of money (~700$) for a contract free phone and got a branded phone (not sim-locked by branded is enough) . What a sh*t situation.
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Oh God, I assumed you got a Verizon one because it was cheap. I picked mine up in the US for $150 so I don't care so much about having to wait since I saved so much money. If you paid full price I would definitely return it and get an int'l one instead!

AmbitiousDonut said:
Oh God, I assumed you got a Verizon one because it was cheap. I picked mine up in the US for $150 so I don't care so much about having to wait since I saved so much money. If you paid full price I would definitely return it and get an int'l one instead!
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Nope, the problem is that I wanted the 32 GB version and most of the online shops had only the 16 GB one. Maybe there is no international 32gb htc one m8..
PS: the retailer's product page (cel.ro) doesn't say anything regarding branding, even the photos are of a htc one m8 unbranded phone.

I am a bit late here. Can i flash a European custom rom on verizon M8? I want to completely get rid of verizon bloatware/services . If yes then while installing custom rom in aroma can i select WWE instead of verizon?? Summary of my question is can i use a WWE European custom rom on version M8??

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w69 said:
I am a bit late here. Can i flash a European custom rom on verizon M8? I want to completely get rid of verizon bloatware/services . If yes then while installing custom rom in aroma can i select WWE instead of verizon?? Summary of my question is can i use a WWE European custom rom on version M8??
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You should only use custom ROMs that specifically support the Verizon variant. If the option is given in AROMA for carrier version (and VZN is one of those), its got nothing to do with what carrier/region you are located in, but refers to the version M8 you have, which is still Verizon. But you should check the specific ROM thread for details, comments by VZN version users, etc. as devs don't always setup AROMA the same way.
This thread is really old (almost 2 years) and we know a lot more now. FYI, I know its not what you specifically asked, but the topic of the thread is converting to Euro version by flashing firmware, RUU etc. And quite simply and frankly, do not attempt to flash Euro firmware, RUU, or change the CID/MID to do so. Flashing Euro firmware on the VZN variant will result in a radio brick, and the damage may be permanent!

HTC One m8 variants

Hi guys,
Planning to buy the m8 and root it. But should I be specific on the variants?
Im not from the US (The Philippines) so Most likely not gonna get atnt, sprint etc.
So my options are:
The international model
Emea (a friend of mine is selling his but it was bought in riyad, KSA)
Or the asian version (s801 2.5ghz)
Do they have like different model nos.? Different ruus / rom versions etc?
Had a bad experience when i bought a phone (m7 sprint wls) before, since im not from the us. Had limited roms available compared to the international version
Your input would really help
Sent from my HTC One

I would agree that you should not get a US variant. For one thing, they will be SIM locked. Another thing, the Sprint and Verizon versions are CDMA. Different software, and possibly different hardware (although its been discussed here, and not clear - but I would err on the side of caution and assume the hardware is different). So if your area does not use CDMA I would stay away from those variants.
All GSM versions, be aware that they can all be converted to another carrier variant once bootloader unlocked and S-off. So as long as you avoid the CDMA versions, you are good for ROMs.
I would suggest the version that supports your local 3G and LTE bands out of the box. But again, as long as you are willing to s-off the phone, you can change that in software. So if that is the case, I would just go with the best deal.
From what I understand, the Asian version is the same as any other GSM version, just with a slight overclock.

Well if you do go with a us carrier Verizon has the best coverage and thier phones are :not: sim locked. You can use them with any carrier anywhere. My second choice would be t-mobile

str8str said:
Well if you do go with a us carrier Verizon has the best coverage
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The OP is from the Philippines. They aren't going to use a US carrier.
I would advise against CDMA variants for the reasons already mentioned.

redpoint73 said:
The OP is from the Philippines. They aren't going to use a US carrier.
I would advise against CDMA variants for the reasons already mentioned.
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Thanks guys, I just want to be clear, so if I use a Rom or RUU on a GSM variant, as long as Im'm on S-Off / Unlocked Bootloader and/ or on SuperCID. I could use any Rom ./ RUU from different GSM variants (I checked the rooting guide for the M8 and is similar to the M7, so as far as unlocking the bootloader / root that I have an idea).
Do they have different RUUs at all??

Czai24 said:
I just want to be clear, so if I use a Rom or RUU on a GSM variant, as long as Im'm on S-Off / Unlocked Bootloader and/ or on SuperCID.
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Yes.
Aside from the CDMA RUUs, which I wouldn't try on a GSM version unless you read definitive advice elsewhere that its ok.
Czai24 said:
Do they have different RUUs at all??
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Only US versions have RUU, that I know of.

Yes you're right.
I thought all has ruus on it. But with supercid i could use any nandroid backup right? As long as its gsm
I think I will go for the Asian version (wwe right? Cause it has a higher clockspeed and updated s801) And go supercid and use international (gsm) roms. Will that work?
Sent from my HTC One

Czai24 said:
with supercid i could use any nandroid backup right? As long as its gsm
I think I will go for the Asian version (wwe right? Cause it has a higher clockspeed and updated s801) And go supercid and use international (gsm) roms. Will that work?
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I believe that will work, yes.
WWE just means "world wide English". I think it refers to the Euro version.

[Q] Convert VERIZON to WWE - is it possible?

Hello. A question here. i have VERIZON sim-unlocked phone. I live in ukraine. So can i get s-off and install on it WWE firmware (or get a WWE x.xx.401.xx RUU) - thus convert it to WWE version to use all available roms and get OTA updates for xx.xx.401.xx version? And still catch the signal/3G and so on? Or it will cause problems and i need to stick to Verizon firmware and roms?

No.
Like I told you in another thread, you can't do it. But I didn't explain why.
Verizon and Sprint are CDMA models, WWE firmware is for GSM models. They are different devices.
It won't work.

As xunholys explained, the hardware is different (Verizon vs. WWE) and therefore the firmware is different. If you try to fully convert, it either won't work, or it will brick the phone.
Your best bet is probably to use a WWE based custom ROM, and change the kernel to make it work on Verizon. At least that is what a Verizon owner (using his phone on a non-VZN network) stated. You might check the Verizon specific forum section for more detail.
But you will not be able to add full "WWE" band compatibility. The band support is built into firmware; and the firmware is not cross-compatible.

DEV vs WWE

Hi, I have a question.
I have my AT&T phone converted to developer version with 6.12.1540.4 installed.
Everything is good, but I've noticed that WWE update 6.12.401.4_R came with R letter. After some googling I've figured out that R means Rebuild in this case.
So, technically WWE version would work better? Should I convert my phone back to WWE?
Also, in general, what would you suggest to use in US with often travels to Ukraine?

irshansk said:
Hi, I have a question.
I have my AT&T phone converted to developer version with 6.12.1540.4 installed.
Everything is good, but I've noticed that WWE update 6.12.401.4_R came with R letter. After some googling I've figured out that R means Rebuild in this case.
So, technically WWE version would work better? Should I convert my phone back to WWE?
Also, in general, what would you suggest to use in US with often travels to Ukraine?
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I want to know this as well... Is there any software updates between the WWE and dev edition.
If there isn't then I don't see the point to update but need a concrete answer :/.
I am aware that between .401.4 and _R the only difference was the boot image.

Rebuild or newer, doesn't always mean better.
Both having the same build numbers 6.12 means they are very similar. So I would say no need to change.
From what I understand, 6.20.401 is coming (with some significant updates), not sure if a 1540 build (DevEd) will be coming or not. But that might be more of a reason to change.

redpoint73 said:
Rebuild or newer, doesn't always mean better.
Both having the same build numbers 6.12 means they are very similar. So I would say no need to change.
From what I understand, 6.20.401 is coming (with some significant updates), not sure if a 1540 build (DevEd) will be coming or not. But that might be more of a reason to change.
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6.20.401? Where I can read about this? Significant updates? 6.0.1?
So, what you would suggest as better option for US territory? WWE or DEV? Also what about Ukraine?
Thanks!

irshansk said:
6.20.401? Where I can read about this? Significant updates? 6.0.1?
So, what you would suggest as better option for US territory? WWE or DEV? Also what about Ukraine?
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Different emoji, and a security patch.
Actually, finding the post, its 6.20.709 for CID HTC__621:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65028941&postcount=3
But if that version is getting updated, I would guess WWE will, as well.
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So, what you would suggest as better option for US territory? WWE or DEV? Also what about Ukraine?
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The only real difference would be the network band support. So what version is best for US, depends on which carrier you are using (or intend to use); as there are 4 major (and numerous small regional) carriers in the US, which all use slightly different bands for 3G, 4G.
As to what version is best for Ukraine, you will need to find what band your intended carrier uses for 3G and 4G; and what version's radio supports those bands.

New to Oneplus

Hello, I am soon to be new to the one plus scene, and had a few questions.
I got the factory unlocked 7t and plan on using it on tmobile. Am I going to have rcs messaging? Will it be limited in any way? Also I have read that you can flash to international from tmobile but can you go the other way? And final question going either way does it require root or anything or because they are stock images they work fine?
From what I can tell from where I purchased it says HD1907 which is the tmobile variant(or should be?) Listing and reviews say confirm getting the HD1907, and its factory unlocked without branding. Can it be branded? And I should be fine and able to go to international/de-brand if I decide to later?

Welcome to the OnePlus 7T, it's a great phone!
I suggest reading through this guide to flash from T-Mobile to Global: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/guide-t-mobile-brand-conversion-to-t4019495
It will walk you through the entire process of flashing your phone and (if needed) rooting it as well.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the All-in-One Tool found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/tool-tool-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t4103515
It does just about everything you could need in terms of flashing, rooting, returning to stock, etc.
No matter which guide you choose, both forums are very active and should be able to help you if you run into any issues.
In regards to the RCS messaging, you should be fine but don't hold me to that. I typically use Google Voice but I know that Google Messages supports RCS on T-Mobile.

brisseau said:
Welcome to the OnePlus 7T, it's a great phone!
I suggest reading through this guide to flash from T-Mobile to Global: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/guide-t-mobile-brand-conversion-to-t4019495
It will walk you through the entire process of flashing your phone and (if needed) rooting it as well.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the All-in-One Tool found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/tool-tool-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t4103515
It does just about everything you could need in terms of flashing, rooting, returning to stock, etc.
No matter which guide you choose, both forums are very active and should be able to help you if you run into any issues.
In regards to the RCS messaging, you should be fine but don't hold me to that. I typically use Google Voice but I know that Google Messages supports RCS on T-Mobile.
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First thanks for the quick response, as a past dev im familiar with xda and have been looking through the 7t section including those and im starting to getting familiar. Thanks for the recommend!
I suppose the question I still don't get is the listing is for a tmobile unbranded so does that mean its on global or not? is it on us, not global, but just not branded but other wise 99% similar to branded just lacks carrier apps? Is there a step in between carrier branded and global? Does tmobile varient + unbranded just means it has the straight from OP firmware? If thats the case does that mean it can accept the tmobile branded firmware? I know everyone is like go global it seems but just for the sake of understanding I want to know since its tmobile varient hardware can it go back from OP updates(if thats what its on) to tmobile? and still be bootloader locked?
seems like there is several steps
carrier branded > carrier unbranded(straight from OP?) > global
However the update on OP's site doesn't list a different global download? How do global users get the update? or am i missing that theres a us site section and a non us site section?

There are a few definite ways to find out:
Model Number: the T-Mobile version is HD1907. I have the International version (HD1905) which has dual sim slots (the T-Mobile version only has 1 sim slot available)
Is there a T-Mobile splash-screen
Are there any T-Mobile (pre-installed) apps
If you have the T-Mobile version, it will never have the original OP software unless you flash the International ROM.
It sounds to me like it's a T-Mobile version (HD1907) that's been unlocked and (probably) flashed to the International (global) ROM (which will get you the official OnePlus software as it comes without the T-Mobile carrier bloat, which is really pretty minimal. I think it was 2 apps when I had the T-Mobile OnePlus 6T).
If you decide to re-lock the bootloader, I'm almost 100% sure that you must be back on the original software that the phone shipped with. So if it's a T-Mobile version, you must flash the T-Mobile ROM before you re-lock the bootloader.
No matter which software you have, it's really pretty easy to go from one to the other, especially with the All-in-One tool.
Personally, I prefer the International ROM (or their Beta Channel) because of faster security updates.
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seems like there is several steps
carrier branded > carrier unbranded(straight from OP?) > global
However the update on OP's site doesn't list a different global download? How do global users get the update? or am i missing that theres a us site section and a non us site section?[/QUOTE]
There are essentially 3 ROMs direct from OnePlus that you could flash (aside from the T-Mobile version)
HD65AA Global (which is one I would recommend)
HD65AA India
HD65BA Europe
All of which are found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/oneplus-7t-repo-oxygen-os-builds-t3997037

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There are a few definite ways to find out:
Model Number: the T-Mobile version is HD1907. I have the International version (HD1905) which has dual sim slots (the T-Mobile version only has 1 sim slot available)
Is there a T-Mobile splash-screen
Are there any T-Mobile (pre-installed) apps
If you have the T-Mobile version, it will never have the original OP software unless you flash the International ROM.
It sounds to me like it's a T-Mobile version (HD1907) that's been unlocked and (probably) flashed to the International (global) ROM (which will get you the official OnePlus software as it comes without the T-Mobile carrier bloat, which is really pretty minimal. I think it was 2 apps when I had the T-Mobile OnePlus 6T).
If you decide to re-lock the bootloader, I'm almost 100% sure that you must be back on the original software that the phone shipped with. So if it's a T-Mobile version, you must flash the T-Mobile ROM before you re-lock the bootloader.
No matter which software you have, it's really pretty easy to go from one to the other, especially with the All-in-One tool.
Personally, I prefer the International ROM (or their Beta Channel) because of faster security updates.
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seems like there is several steps
carrier branded > carrier unbranded(straight from OP?) > global
However the update on OP's site doesn't list a different global download? How do global users get the update? or am i missing that theres a us site section and a non us site section?
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There are essentially 3 ROMs direct from OnePlus that you could flash (aside from the T-Mobile version)
HD65AA Global (which is one I would recommend)
HD65AA India
HD65BA Europe
All of which are found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/oneplus-7t-repo-oxygen-os-builds-t3997037[/QUOTE]
So as long as it is infact a HD1907 I can use the builds here to go back to this models stock and then bootloader lock? would this be the best way to do so?
Edit: so the about info says HD1907 it didn't say tmobile when i started it the sim tray hold 1 sim. (just arrived) so I should be able to put it back on tmobile branded and lock the bootloader yes? I didn't actually confirm that its bootloader unlocked but im assuming since about info says its tmobile but appears to not be tmobile branded.(unlocked bootloader is only way that could all be true) The packaging was all completely sealed which is why im just a bit confused still as how it can be a tmobile variant but not be tmobile branded but also not modified outside of the factory?

so it looks like its 10.0.10.HD65AA rom, model HD1907, device state locked. so to go back to tmobile stock would I have to unlock? then do something like in this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/op7t-t-mobile-unbrick-tool-to-restore-t4004005 ?

brisseau said:
There are a few definite ways to find out:
Model Number: the T-Mobile version is HD1907. I have the International version (HD1905) which has dual sim slots (the T-Mobile version only has 1 sim slot available)
Is there a T-Mobile splash-screen
Are there any T-Mobile (pre-installed) apps
If you have the T-Mobile version, it will never have the original OP software unless you flash the International ROM.
It sounds to me like it's a T-Mobile version (HD1907) that's been unlocked and (probably) flashed to the International (global) ROM (which will get you the official OnePlus software as it comes without the T-Mobile carrier bloat, which is really pretty minimal. I think it was 2 apps when I had the T-Mobile OnePlus 6T).
If you decide to re-lock the bootloader, I'm almost 100% sure that you must be back on the original software that the phone shipped with. So if it's a T-Mobile version, you must flash the T-Mobile ROM before you re-lock the bootloader.
No matter which software you have, it's really pretty easy to go from one to the other, especially with the All-in-One tool.
Personally, I prefer the International ROM (or their Beta Channel) because of faster security updates.
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seems like there is several steps
carrier branded > carrier unbranded(straight from OP?) > global
However the update on OP's site doesn't list a different global download? How do global users get the update? or am i missing that theres a us site section and a non us site section?
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There are essentially 3 ROMs direct from OnePlus that you could flash (aside from the T-Mobile version)
HD65AA Global (which is one I would recommend)
HD65AA India
HD65BA Europe
All of which are found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/oneplus-7t-repo-oxygen-os-builds-t3997037[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to say thanks for the info! I was able to unlock bootloader(not sure if i needed to but did) flash the tmobile branded from https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/op7t-t-mobile-unbrick-tool-to-restore-t4004005 after doing that I looked in bootloader and it says device status locked so im all set.(nice to know that I also have global as an option among others) Thanks again!

Just wanted to say thanks for the info! I was able to unlock bootloader(not sure if i needed to but did) flash the tmobile branded from https://forum.xda-developers.com/one...store-t4004005 after doing that I looked in bootloader and it says device status locked so im all set.(nice to know that I also have global as an option among others) Thanks again!​
Glad to hear it went well. Aside from a more recent security update, I don't know if you'll see any difference between the T-Mobile ROM and the International (global) ROM so enjoy it.
I know some folks wish there was more development for the OP7T but it's really pretty solid. Oxygen OS is smooth and Android 11 should be available for it by the end of the year. That being said, I'd love to see how the Paranoid Android ROM runs on this device! Hopefully that'll come soon.
:fingers-crossed:
-Steve