Why the lack of USB PD + USB A Wall Chargers? - General Accessories

There must be a technical reason behind this. Does anyone have any ideas?
Specifically talking about PD capable chargers.
Tronsmart came out with the W2DC/W2DT, which they discontinued probably because the USB-C did not work well, or at all with Nexus 6P/5X.
Aukey has the PA-Y10 - Which I've JUST discovered now. Does anyone have any experience with this charger?
The rest of the top tier chargers I see out there are "desktop" chargers (requiring a power cable plugged into the wall).
On a side note, can anyone recommend a USB-C PD + USB A charger similar to the ones I've mentioned above aside from these two brands? If someone has positive feedback I'm willing to give it a shot! Was not sure about the brand "ZeroLemon" (which some people said they were just rebranded of some sort).
It just makes it convenient to charge my iPad and Cell Phone and only have to bring 1 Adapter.
Thanks!

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[Q] Need Opinion/info on Qmadix 4.4A USB Triple Travel Charging Hub...

So Im in desperate need of at least one more Wall charge for my galaxy note 8.0 and Galaxy S4. The only problem is they're either pretty expensive for the more legit products, or sketchy. I just need the white box part that goes into the wall outlet. SO incredibly embarrassing and frustrating that I can't seem to figure out what it's actually called. In any case, through my searches I found this:
Qmadix 4.4A USB Triple Travel Charging Hub
It allows for three ports, but each port is designated differently. well, okay... two are the same (1A), but ones different (2.4A). I have no clue about electricity, except to know if you don't use the samsung recommended converters it could damage the battery in the long run. Im under the impression that both of my devices require 2.0A. Does this mean only the 2.4A port would work?
Is anyone familiar with this Item Ive listed? Could I use this device to power bot my Galaxy Note 8.0 AND Galaxy S4 at the same time?
It seems like such a great deal and very compact. Can't pass up without at least asking about it.
again, Im asking about the:
Qmadix 4.4A USB Triple Travel Charging Hub
This is what you NEED to get: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608578
vectron said:
This is what you NEED to get: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608578
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I appreciate the reply. I had actually seen that and immediately fell in love... but I just as quickly wrote it off because of the additional cable thats required to plug it into an outlet. I need something more compact... something with collapsible prongs.
Another one I was looking at is this one iXCC Dual USB 4.2 Amp (20 Watt) SMART High Capacity AC Travel Wall Charger...
Any thought?
Ports listed as 1A might still be able to supply 2A for your phone, but they might be right at the top of their current limiting (thus running warmer). The whole thing about using only Samsung provided charger is just to scare you off so you buy their original overpriced accessories But there is a truth to it as well, when you buy cheap stuff from ebay where they sell 1A rated outputs labeled with 2A and can run into a problem above (overheating, which causes short, which can cause a damage to your phone). Anker is a trusted brand with a decent quality control, RAVPower is good, and I heard of QMadix before as well.
Here is a problem. When you are dealing with wall outlet converters with multiple outputs that carry a lot of heat/power, you are too close to the main electrical outlet. So, I would be careful not too overload these. Maybe using 2 devices plugged in at a time is ok, but NEVER 3 at a time. When you have something like that 40W Anker converter, you are placing it away from the outlet, it exposed to air circulation from every side (cooling it better), and it should have some fuse or internal protection in case of a short. I understand, for convenience you need wall converter that plugs in, but make sure you get a double one, not the triple output one because i would consider those to be not as reliable when you are charging 3 devices at the same time while plugged into a single wall outlet directly.
Anker also make this one: www.amazon.com/AnkerĀ®-4-Port-Charger-Travel-Adapter/dp/B00EI8SS4U/ - but I would not load more than 2 ports at a time. Or if you load 3 or 4 ports, make sure it's not overnight when you are sleeping and that all 4 charging devices are not drawing max current
Btw, one quick question... The Anker 40W 5-port USB wall charger... Should I only charge 2 devices at a time with it aswell? or was that referring only to chargers that plug directly into the wall because of the heat issue?
varxtis said:
Btw, one quick question... The Anker 40W 5-port USB wall charger... Should I only charge 2 devices at a time with it aswell? or was that referring only to chargers that plug directly into the wall because of the heat issue?
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You can use all 5 ports on that one (40W version that doesn't plug into wall outlet directly). That how I do it all the way, mostly using 4 ports at once to charge my Note 2, my Metawatch smartwatch, my mp3/DAP player, and external battery. Sometime also add my wireless headset too

Why is my 5x "Charging slowly"?

Just got my 5x today, and it does "rapid charging" when I connect with the charger in the box, but when I connect using other USB cables/plugs (one supports QC 2.0, the other is a regular charger but supports 2.1A charging), I get a message that the device is "Charging slowly."
Are there other certain specs that a cable or charger has to have to take advantage of rapid charging?
Fast charging on USB-C is apparently very picky when it comes to cables. I havent't tried charging from the USB-A cables that I bought, but the reviews for one that I was considering said that the cable limited the charging capability to 500mA. I know little about qcomm's Quick Charging but I do know that it requires feedback from an enabled device before it will allow full power. I wouldn't be surprised if the lack of that feedback from the N5X was limiting current from the charger, but it definitely looks like a quality cable is the first step to success. Notice how thick the factory LG cable is...
Most cables limit current by a significant amount. Even factory ones. That's why the OnePlus One charger was so popular. The wall dongle was nothing special (2.0A) but the cable was thick enough to actually let it output that current. The only difference now is that our phone will actually tell us if it's hooked up to a crappy charger/cable.
Thanks for the reply, I'll have to do some hunting on Amazon for another cable and see what happens.
Appreciate it if anyone else can chime in too.
the Nexus 5X does not support Qualcomm Quick Charge, at all.
Thanks, I know QC is not supported, I was just offering up that I tried one, and that I tried multiple charges that support 2.1A charging.
Interestingly enough, if I use either of the QC certified chargers that I got along with my S6 (which only output 2A) I get rapid charging. Using an Anker QC charger (also 2A) I don't, and using a different charger (can't remember the brand at the moment, but also 2A, but not QC), I also get slow charging.
Hmm...

Recommended USB C cables?

This device is officially my debut into the world of USB C; I've never had a single device that uses it. I'm excited, but also cautious as I've read it can be dangerous if you buy a less-than-reputable brand for cables.
What brands would you recommend? Ideally, available on Amazon since that is where I buy pretty much everything from
*Side question - My previous device is an S7 Edge, and as such I have multiple QC 2.0 compliant chargers around the house and in my car (including wireless). I want to clarify whether I can continue to use those and expect fast charging or not*
I am using an Anker 2.0 car charger with mine with no issue. I did have to get a USB-A to USB-C adapter to be able to plug my car dock in (it's got a fixed USB-C cable).
I bought the Anker Powerline+ cable and a 3 pack of the regular Anker Powerline cables just to toss around, they're good.
Im using usb cables from a store called five below, got 5 black meshed ones right when the s8 came out. Now they are sold out. They are 6 feet 2 and working good
disturbd1 said:
This device is officially my debut into the world of USB C; I've never had a single device that uses it. I'm excited, but also cautious as I've read it can be dangerous if you buy a less-than-reputable brand for cables.
What brands would you recommend? Ideally, available on Amazon since that is where I buy pretty much everything from
*Side question - My previous device is an S7 Edge, and as such I have multiple QC 2.0 compliant chargers around the house and in my car (including wireless). I want to clarify whether I can continue to use those and expect fast charging or not*
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Go for Anker PowerLine USB-C to USB 3.0 Cable. It has 3ft including plugs and made up of aramid fiber reinforcement which makes it stronger and more durable.
disturbd1 said:
This device is officially my debut into the world of USB C; I've never had a single device that uses it. I'm excited, but also cautious as I've read it can be dangerous if you buy a less-than-reputable brand for cables.
What brands would you recommend? Ideally, available on Amazon since that is where I buy pretty much everything from
*Side question - My previous device is an S7 Edge, and as such I have multiple QC 2.0 compliant chargers around the house and in my car (including wireless). I want to clarify whether I can continue to use those and expect fast charging or not*
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This is what I've been using on my S8+
USB C, Veckle Type C to USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) 6.6 Ft Braided USB C Cable
My S8+ arrived today, and I've ordered the following Aukey 5-pack from Amazon (UK). They will arrive tomorrow.
I've had pretty good luck with Anker and Aukey products, alike. Sounds like there's no hiccup with their USB C lineup. Has anyone used both, or prefer one over the other? Why?
disturbd1 said:
I've had pretty good luck with Anker and Aukey products, alike. Sounds like there's no hiccup with their USB C lineup. Has anyone used both, or prefer one over the other? Why?
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I've used both in the past, and have no preference and for me it comes down to price/offers and convenience (in stock/out of stock). Both make quality products in my experience, and you can't go wrong with either. I usually look first for Anker or Aukey products when I need things like cables, power packs/external batteries, car or wall chargers.
Google USB-A to USB- C, for the Pixel is the Best of them all, including Samsung
disturbd1 said:
This device is officially my debut into the world of USB C; I've never had a single device that uses it. I'm excited, but also cautious as I've read it can be dangerous if you buy a less-than-reputable brand for cables.
What brands would you recommend? Ideally, available on Amazon since that is where I buy pretty much everything from
*Side question - My previous device is an S7 Edge, and as such I have multiple QC 2.0 compliant chargers around the house and in my car (including wireless). I want to clarify whether I can continue to use those and expect fast charging or not*
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Got these cords for our S8+'s. 6.5 ft long and braided. Very nice cords.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0722DMYTN/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Only paid 5.98 for a 2 pack of them too!
USB Type C Cable,ESEEKGO 2 Pack Samsung S8 Charger Dirtproof Braided Charging Cable for LG V20/G6, Huawei P9, OnePlus 3 (2M/6.6FT Black+Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N74X374/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Zh9DzbZQZ9EXK
Great quality, braided, thick, and a two pack available in many sizes. Absolutely wonderful cables that work well and fast charge.

Which car charger

Do you have any recommendation for car charger (cigarette lighter plug)?
One with fast charger feature which is compatible with Google Pixel 2 (USB-C PD?).
For my old Nexus 6, I must use car charger with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, because otherwise the Nexus 6 will still loosing power when using car navigation software. Standard car charger cannot keep up with the battery drain.
Thanks.
I came from a Nexus 6 too. I ended up buying micro USB to usb-c mini adapters which just go on the end of my old USB leads. I threw one on the car charger and it works fine. It's a stop Gap measure, and I mainly got it for an ihome Android charger/radio, but ended up wrapping duct tape around a usb-c charger cable and putting it in the radio dock.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/ya/r...reorder_params=B01J3GG82U,112-8020237-8121850
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I use the Aukey QC 3.0 car charger with dual 3.0 USB ports. It does not register as rapid charging but it is very quick. I used it with Moto Z Droid and used Google navigation while charging and it charges quick and does not lose charge. I also use the Aukey 3.0 wall charger and that does register as rapid charging.
I just bought a Deltaco (a Scandinavian brand) 3A/5V 15W car charger for 6,5 USD. Can't feel much difference compared to the original home charger's 18W using a 2. Gen Goobay 60W USB C-C cable.
Phone registers the input as rapid charging.
Ampere registers 2.7A with the screen on. Same as the standard charger, so I didn't find any reason why it should be worse
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I bought the Nekteck 5.4 amp charger https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH9NEM2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. The curly cord is hard wired and side mounted with a USB C plug on the end, it charges my Pixel 2 fast (charging rapidly). I had issues with other chargers and cables that wouldn't charge my Pixel 2 at full speed, this one works great. Also, it has a USB A port on the top so you can rapidly charge two devices at the same time.
The Verizon branded one works really great. Charges very fast.
Any update on these?
I'm going to buy this USB-C with Power Delivery charger from Aukey:
https://www.aukey.com/products/usb-c-dual-port-car-charger-with-power-delivery
Will report back with results.
I use the tronsmart car charger.. It charges the phone rapidly.. Made a short video on it:
I have a Verizon USB C (purchased from Amazon for $17) and it works great. It fits very tight and shows up as fast charging.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0711FG2TB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_sLsxpduAP1r1H
PuffDaddy_d said:
I'm going to buy this USB-C with Power Delivery charger from Aukey:
https://www.aukey.com/products/usb-c-dual-port-car-charger-with-power-delivery
Will report back with results.
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Well, I waited too long and it is out of stock, but it looks like I may have avoided a bad purchase according to this supposed Google Engineer's review:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B01LGO9LE4/R3J0UNYEXFSH0X/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_1?ie=UTF8&cursor=1
Any other power delivery compatible options?
I think the hard wired C cabled chargers are the safest bet because of all the dicey 3rd party C cables out there.
I just got the $10 Monoprice USB C charger with PD (9v 3A) because it is rated to charge the at least as fast as the in-box wall charger. Not shilling for Monoprice, just seemed like a better deal than all the sketchy chargers on Amazon with fake reviews, none of which offered anything but 5v 3A or worse at under $25. I figure it's trustworthy because they say it's certified and Benson tested their cables and said they were OK. So far it has not tried to burn my car down or nuke my phone. I'm using it with the 0.5m Monoprice cable, it was about $17 with tax for the bundle. I can't post links, search 24424 on Monoprice.
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (LINK) with 2 outlets for a USB Type-A connection to be plugged into it to charge 2 devices. I originally used it for my old phone that used a Micro-USB connection. After I got my Pixel 2, I needed new cables with its USB-C connection. I went and got these Anker USB-A to USB-C cables (LINK) so that I could charge with these cables or to connect my phone to my PC. Now, I've read that older Anker USB-C cables have had issues but from doing some more reading that these have been fixed I believe.
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
Toronadian said:
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (LINK) with 2 outlets for a USB Type-A connection to be plugged into it to charge 2 devices. I originally used it for my old phone that used a Micro-USB connection. After I got my Pixel 2, I needed new cables with its USB-C connection. I went and got these Anker USB-A to USB-C cables (LINK) so that I could charge with these cables or to connect my phone to my PC. Now, I've read that older Anker USB-C cables have had issues but from doing some more reading that these have been fixed I believe.
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
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It will charge your phone just fine, but as you said, it will not fast charge. I use a similar setup now as I continue to look for the right PD car charger.
Toronadian said:
So I've been googling around and trying to research this as much as I could but I'm still not sure of the answer so I was wondering if I could get some answers here. By the way, apologies if my terminology about the different connections are incorrect at any point in my post.
So I originally bought this Aukey car charger with Qualcomm 3.0 quickcharge (...)
I am planning on using the Aukey charger mentioned above, and then plugging in one of the Anker USB-A to USB-C to charge my phone and was wondering if it'll be a safe combination? From some googling around and research, it seems it won't charge as fast as the wall charger (which is amazingly fast btw) or a USB-PD connection but that's perfectly fine as I don't need it to be as quick. I'm just cautious because I've read about the potential issues with using a bad charger with a not-up-to-standard cable (like something that isn't necessarily verified by Benson Leung or something). I don't care/need USB-PD charging (which I assume is where it uses a dedicated USB-C cable coming from the charger or a separate USB-C to USB-C cable connecting the cable to charger), as long as the combination I just mentioned works.
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PuffDaddy_d said:
It will charge your phone just fine, but as you said, it will not fast charge. I use a similar setup now as I continue to look for the right PD car charger.
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You guys should both look at 24424 on Monoprice. That QC charger isn't going to fast charge no matter what, I used one with a Tronsmart branded USB C to Micro B adapter that Benson recommended no problems though. They have a cheaper non-PD charger too, but why bother?
fishlifters said:
You guys should both look at 24424 on Monoprice. That QC charger isn't going to fast charge no matter what, I used one with a Tronsmart branded USB C to Micro B adapter that Benson recommended no problems though. They have a cheaper non-PD charger too, but why bother?
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I'm sorry, I don't understand. If we already have charger that aren't PD compliant then why do you recommend buying another?
I plan to get this one since it had strong reviews and tests:
GearMo 75W QC 3.0 & USB Type C Power Delivery (PD) Car Charger works with: MacPro,Chromebook,Galaxy s8 s7 Edge Plus,Note 8,LG G6 G5 V20 V30,HTC 10,a9,8,Pixel 2 XL,Nexus,iPhone 7,iPad. FCC Approved https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07115BLPP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_bSiBAb2H2P7W0
PuffDaddy_d said:
I'm sorry, I don't understand. If we already have charger that aren't PD compliant then why do you recommend buying another?
I plan to get this one since it had strong reviews and tests:
GearMo 75W QC 3.0 & USB Type C Power Delivery (PD) Car Charger works with: MacPro,Chromebook,Galaxy s8 s7 Edge Plus,Note 8,LG G6 G5 V20 V30,HTC 10,a9,8,Pixel 2 XL,Nexus,iPhone 7,iPad. FCC Approved
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A USB C charger 5v 3W standard will still charge faster than a USB A QC charger, but it's only $3 less on Monoprice for the non-PD one. I don't see anything on usb DOT org listing GearMo on the certified power brick chart. I wouldn't risk it. There's no reason to put a USB 3.0 A-type port on a charger, seems fishy to me.
This one looks promising as well:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07234DKQ5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_D0lIAb2M0BDZG
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I'm using this Meagoes charger from Amazon. Works well.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076H7X8QN

Car Charger and USB Cable Options?

Just received my Pixel 3 XL yesterday and I didn't really think about the ramifications of it being USB-C. I don't have a single USB-C accessory so I have to replace my car charger. In addition to that, the USB-C cable that came with the device isn't long enough to reach from the floor to my bedside table, much less my hands while I'm in bed so I need a replacement for that too. Also have no way of connecting it to my PC at the moment so I need that too.
So I was reading up on the way the Pixel 3 charging works, and it looks like it uses the "Power Delivery" standard and tops out at 18w on chargers only made by google, is that correct?
If that's the case, what do we do in the case of a car charger, since they don't make one?
Can we use any USB-C to USB-C cable with the original wall charger and not have brand related charging issues?
Do I need a USB-3.1 spec USB-C to USB-A cable for full speed file transfers to my PC?
Not interested in wireless charging, just need the cheapest, fastest possible options.
Thanks everyone!
TallgeeseIV said:
Just received my Pixel 3 XL yesterday and I didn't really think about the ramifications of it being USB-C. I don't have a single USB-C accessory so I have to replace my car charger. In addition to that, the USB-C cable that came with the device isn't long enough to reach from the floor to my bedside table, much less my hands while I'm in bed so I need a replacement for that too. Also have no way of connecting it to my PC at the moment so I need that too.
So I was reading up on the way the Pixel 3 charging works, and it looks like it uses the "Power Delivery" standard and tops out at 18w on chargers only made by google, is that correct?
If that's the case, what do we do in the case of a car charger, since they don't make one?
Can we use any USB-C to USB-C cable with the original wall charger and not have brand related charging issues?
Do I need a USB-3.1 spec USB-C to USB-A cable for full speed file transfers to my PC?
Not interested in wireless charging, just need the cheapest, fastest possible options.
Thanks everyone!
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Over in the Accessories forum you will see a thread on car chargers.
Meagoes and Aukey both have car chargers with PD connections. The Meagoes kit includes a USB-C to USB-C cable. I prefer the Aukey car adapter with my own USB-C to USB-C cable because it does not have the bright LED which I found distracting.
swieder711 said:
Over in the Accessories forum you will see a thread on car chargers.
Meagoes and Aukey both have car chargers with PD connections. The Meagoes kit includes a USB-C to USB-C cable. I prefer the Aukey car adapter with my own USB-C to USB-C cable because it does not have the bright LED which I found distracting.
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Ahhh I didn't scroll down far enough... Accessory forums used to be near the top of the list so when I got to the development forums I assumed XDA phased accessory forums out, haha. Oh well.
I appreciate the advice, I'm getting the Meagoes because of the price, and because I installed an aux port inside my dashboard for car chargers because I hate the lights on them too.

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