No USB Cable? - Google Pixel 2 XL Accessories

I was a bit surprised to find out that the Pixel 2 doesn't come with a transfer cable, and the only adapter is USB-C to USB-A. Luckily I still had mine from the original Pixel XL, but it was odd that Google didn't include one. Just a heads up for those who haven't received there's yet

That adapter allows you to use your old charging cable to transfer. Adapter into the Pixel 2, old charging cable into adapter and into old phone
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I was surprised as well to see no USB-C to USB-A cable included. I also used mine from my original Pixel XL, but Google's cables are of such high quality that I would have loved to have another.
GTvert90 said:
That adapter allows you to use your old charging cable to transfer. Adapter into the Pixel 2, old charging cable into adapter and into old phone
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Correct, but this post isn't really about the adapter. It's about Google including one less cable versus last year. The original Pixels included the adapter, a USB-C to USB-C cable, and a USB-C to USB-A cable. The USB-C to USB-A cable is not included with the new Pixels.
And like the new Pixels, some phones these days only come with a USB-C to USB-C cable. The included adapter doesn't help in that situation. Very few devices fall into that scenario, but it still could happen.

The original came with the adapter too? I don't remember that
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GTvert90 said:
The original came with the adapter too? I don't remember that
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It did indeed. I've used it frequently for USB OTG.

FYI, you cannot use a normal USB-A cable and the C-to-A adapter and connect your Pixel to a PC. It will not allow you to charge or connect to transfer files.
Really sucks, because I used this at work a lot with my original Pixel XL. Something changed with the new hardware and it prevents you from doing it. Luckily, I also have the original C to A cable that came with my XL.

Definitely a bummer for someone going from iPhone to Pixel 2. Now I have zero cables I can use to charge my new phone in my car. I left Apple because I was tired of being forced to buy extra things to do basic stuff so a little irked that I need to buy a special connector for car charging. Anyone have recommendations on a good cable that will actually work for both charging and data transfer?

They replaced it with the headphone cable.
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There are heaps of good USB C to USB A cables out there. If you need one you can buy the google one from their store. Would have been nice to get one in the box, but I still have 3 lying around that I've used for previous type C phones.
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So which third party USB C-A cables support the full 18W charging capability of the Pixel 2 besides the overpriced one from Google?
Edit: I found this one which supports USB 3 and up to 3A, if anyone is looking.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KX8A2OW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SVXSHXC5D9W1&psc=1

No USB A-C cable supports 3A charging unless it is out of spec. Google's A-C cable does not support 18W charging.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
Do not use a 3A legacy cable to charge your phone, or you may risk damaging something.

edgeicator said:
No USB A-C cable supports 3A charging unless it is out of spec. Google's A-C cable does not support 18W charging.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
Do not use a 3A legacy cable to charge your phone, or you may risk damaging something.
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Well the cable that I linked does have a 56kΩ pullup resistor, so it should adhere to the USB spec to prevent any damage.

raidflex said:
Well the cable that I linked does have a 56kΩ pullup resistor, so it should adhere to the USB spec to prevent any damage.
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Has anyone tested it to make sure it does though? I've seen several reviews from Nathan/Benson for cables that claim to have a proper resistor but don't.

edgeicator said:
Has anyone tested it to make sure it does though? I've seen several reviews from Nathan/Benson for cables that claim to have a proper resistor but don't.
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Not sure if there is a way that I can test this.
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Cable does not work
raidflex said:
So which third party USB C-A cables support the full 18W charging capability of the Pixel 2 besides the overpriced one from Google?
Edit: I found this one which supports USB 3 and up to 3A, if anyone is looking.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KX8A2OW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SVXSHXC5D9W1&psc=1
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That cable used to work with first pixel for fast charging but, does not work with pixel 2 I own 2 of them and was disappointed

gallinas2 said:
That cable used to work with first pixel for fast charging but, does not work with pixel 2 I own 2 of them and was disappointed
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I literally just got the cable today and noticed it's only saying charging. It should say "rapid charging" if fast charging is work correct?
Anyone confirm of a A-C cable that actually can fast charge?

raidflex said:
So which third party USB C-A cables support the full 18W charging capability of the Pixel 2 besides the overpriced one from Google?
Edit: I found this one which supports USB 3 and up to 3A, if anyone is looking.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KX8A2OW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SVXSHXC5D9W1&psc=1
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I bought that and have 2 of them here. Nice cables! I can transfer data fine with them.

apristel said:
I bought that and have 2 of them here. Nice cables! I can transfer data fine with them.
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I did bring up Accubattery and it will only charge at 1a even with a 2.4a charger, which is disappointing.

I received my phone yesterday and found this to be very annoying. I have a few questions:
-Is the USB-C on this phone 3.0 or 3.1 spec or just 2.0? I just assumed all these new phones had 3.0+ speed
-According to google store, the cable that comes with this phone is 2.0 spec ($20 effin dollars?). Is there a 3.0 spec cable that will work?
-Are there any third party cables out there that will fast charge and have 3.0+ spec? (of course 3.0 is pointless if the phone itself maxes out at 2.0)

j3oomerang said:
I received my phone yesterday and found this to be very annoying. I have a few questions:
-Is the USB-C on this phone 3.0 or 3.1 spec or just 2.0? I just assumed all these new phones had 3.0+ speed
-According to google store, the cable that comes with this phone is 2.0 spec ($20 effin dollars?). Is there a 3.0 spec cable that will work?
-Are there any third party cables out there that will fast charge and have 3.0+ spec? (of course 3.0 is pointless if the phone itself maxes out at 2.0)
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I picked up this one, it has not come in but it is USB-IF certified, so there should be no issues.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07213D35X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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USB-C to Micro USB Adapter question ?

Getting a 5X and was wondering if USB-C to Micro USB Adapters
are ok to use on my Car charger that is Micro USB
Getting tired of buying a new charger and cables all the time.
Thanks
Gary
I bought TechMate ones. According to Benson Leung (a google employee) they meet the usb type c standard. Below is a link to all of the units he tested. The TechMate one is near the bottom.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
I got a USB c otg which meats the safety measures, that I use for everything.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00Y9Q5FTW/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This way you shouldn't have to worry about it ever again
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PiousInquisitor said:
I bought TechMate ones. According to Benson Leung (a google employee) they meet the usb type c standard. Below is a link to all of the units he tested. The TechMate one is near the bottom.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
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going to order the TechMate pair ,,I assume u can use any Micro usb cable or charger on it
Gary
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gecoffin said:
going to order the TechMate pair ,,I assume u can use any Micro usb cable or charger on it
Gary
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That's what I'm assuming. I used it on my old 2013 Moto X cable to flash TWRP without issue.
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USB C QC3 charger.

Our stock charger works well and all, but does anyone know of a USB C QC3 charger? I just want to be able to use C at both ends.
http://www.amazon.com/PowerIQ-Anker...-2&keywords=type+c+to+type+c+quick+chARGE+3.0 is a example, amazon has many
I thought only Type A was officially supported for QC 3.0?
Haldi4803 said:
I thought only Type A was officially supported for QC 3.0?
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No, this is incorrect.
Q6: Does it matter what type of charging cable is used with a Quick Charge adapter?
A: Quick Charge is designed to be connector-independent. Quick Charge can be implemented with a variety of formats, including USB Type-A, USB micro, USB Type-C, and other proprietary connectors.
Quick Charge high-voltage operation is designed to minimize charging issues associated with long or thin cables, allowing for a superior charging experience, independent of cable type.
Source: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge/faq
The reason most cables/charges are A is backward compatibility with older devices and cables as only new USB-C devices will come with USB-C cables so it's easier to have A terminals on the end for the widest variety of accessory compatibility.
afuller42 said:
http://www.amazon.com/PowerIQ-Anker...-2&keywords=type+c+to+type+c+quick+chARGE+3.0 is a example, amazon has many
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This is the one I have. It powers up to 24w but the 10 charges at quickcharge 2.0 speeds lol.
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Consensus on best USB C cable for quick charging?

So since Quick Charge 3 isn't technically spec for USB C, none of the Benson Leung cables will ~actually~ charge at full Quick Charge speed, correct? Is there a consensus on the best quality cable that will charge at full speed, preferably USB 3.0/3.1? It looks like a lot of the cables with the 56k ohm resistor in it don't hit QC3 speed and I just don't want to fry my phone.
What's wrong with the cable that comes with the phone?
The one for the nexus 6p is the best I've used. I've used the lg G5 one but not the one that it comes with
The best cable is the one that comes with the phone...
ImagioX1 said:
The best cable is the one that comes with the phone...
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The problem with the one that comes with the phone is it's only USB 2.0 I believe, and they're $20 cables. There's got to be better cables out there than that that are USB 3.0.
Here is the list with verified USB3.0 to type c cables.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0

USB-C Power Delivery Chargers

Hi all,
I just have some clarification questions regarding the chaos that is currently USB-C. Will ANY USB-C with PD support charge any other USB-C phone, tablet, or laptop if those devices support PD? Do we need to ensure that the charger used supports specific charging voltages, or will any of them work at different charge rates?
I bought a 2017 HP Spectre x360 13" a few months ago. (SIDE NOTE: If you're looking, this is an amazing convertible Ultrabook... 4k screen w/ Pen, Core i7, 512GB NVMe SSD, 16GB RAM, Thunderbolt3). It charges via a 45W USB-C charger. I generally have laptop chargers everywhere, so I ordered a bulk of Dell LA45NM150 chargers from eBay. They say 5V/20V on the sticker. Should these also charge my Galaxy S8, which charges at 5V and 9V? Do chargers need to say Power Delivery or PD to meet PD spec, or does that come along with having multiple voltages.
Likewise, I am guessing my laptop NEEDS 20V to charge? So if I took say, a phone charger and plugged it into the laptop, would it just not charge since it can't switch to 20V?
I am also speculating that if a USB-C charger only says 20V on the sticker, will it fry a Galaxy S8? Or is there protection for this sort of thing?
I am no newbie to power, chargers, electronics, tech.. but there's a lot of gray area right now on this stuff it seems.
Anyone?
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Also, another related question -- Is there any advantage to using a USB-C to USB-C charging cable and brick vs a USB-C to USB-A cable with a brick?
muzicman82 said:
Also, another related question -- Is there any advantage to using a USB-C to USB-C charging cable and brick vs a USB-C to USB-A cable with a brick?
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USB-C to USB-C supports ThunderBolt 3 and USB 3.1. So faster data transfer and charging... USB-A does not support this... I think....
zedexdriver98 said:
USB-C to USB-C supports ThunderBolt 3 and USB 3.1. So faster data transfer and charging... USB-A does not support this... I think....
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So then, why put a USB-C port on a wall charger? Just so you can use the same USB-C to USB-C cable?
muzicman82 said:
So then, why put a USB-C port on a wall charger? Just so you can use the same USB-C to USB-C cable?
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Yeah I guess so... USB-C will be universal soon enough anyway so this will no longer be a worry haha!

USB-C to USB-A Cables - Technical Differences aside from 56k OHM Resistor?

If any mods feel this shouldn't be a separate thread, please move it to the "Android Auto issues" thread.
Would anyone be able to provide technical expertise regarding USB-A to USB-C cables, aside from the 56k OHM resistor, Possibly latency differences of some sort? The Tronsmart is on Bensen's approved list
Right now I am using these Tronsmart Cables: USB C Cable, Tronsmart USB-C to USB-A Cable with 56k Resistor (3.3 Feet, 1 x Black,1 x White) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018S347O0
With the recent influx of Android Auto issues on the newer phones, I'm wondering if there's any technical differences between this cable, and for example: Anker Powerline+ USB C to USB 3.0 Cable (3ft) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M3NB6FB
I have absolutely no issues with my Nexus 6P, and I'd hate to spend $12 to find out the cable is not the issue, just because I have so many USB-C to USB-A Cables.
Using the original USB-A to USB-C cable that came with the Nexus 6P results in non stop crashing of Android Auto for me on my Pixel 2XL. Using the original USB-A to USB-C cable that came with the Pixel XL allows me to use Android Auto with my Pixel 2XL without any more issues than I had on the Pixel XL.
AndrasLOHF said:
Using the original USB-A to USB-C cable that came with the Nexus 6P results in non stop crashing of Android Auto for me on my Pixel 2XL. Using the original USB-A to USB-C cable that came with the Pixel XL allows me to use Android Auto with my Pixel 2XL without any more issues than I had on the Pixel XL.
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This is very interesting. I'm not home now and don't recall, does the Pixel 2 XL even come with a USB-A to USB-C cable, or just an adapter from USB A to C?
I never had an original Pixel, so I don't have the original Pixel cable. I also wonder what the equivalent cable would be to buy.
bigblueshock said:
This is very interesting. I'm not home now and don't recall, does the Pixel 2 XL even come with a USB-A to USB-C cable, or just an adapter from USB A to C?
I never had an original Pixel, so I don't have the original Pixel cable. I also wonder what the equivalent cable would be to buy.
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The pixel 2xl only comes with a usb-c to usb-c. You would think anything from Google would work but seeing as their own cable from the 6P is causing mine to crash that's obviously not the case.
There is an adapter that comes with the pixel 2 xl with A and C ports.
terre08 said:
There is an adapter that comes with the pixel 2 xl with A and C ports.
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True...but it's the female side to use an old USB cable to plug into the Pixel 2XL for data transfer when setting up. It's not the male side that would plug into a head unit for Android Auto so I didn't mention it.

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