As no one has started a better life thread yet, I thought I'd start one. Mine has been great and today is no exception.
most phones do well on wi-fi. I'd love to see the results from a day on mobile data. That separates the wheat from the chaff
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most phones do well on wi-fi. I'd love to see the results from a day on mobile data. That separates the wheat from the chaff
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This is with only a couple hours on Wi-Fi. Mostly data and half the time spent inside a building at work
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most phones do well on wi-fi. I'd love to see the results from a day on mobile data. That separates the wheat from the chaff
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My bad wrong time on battery picture.
The one with 18 hours off battery I had over 7 hours screen on time
That's how it should look
So this was mostly on WiFi. There was about an hour where I was in town shopping and not on WiFi at all.
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So this was mostly on WiFi. There was about an hour where I was in town shopping and not on WiFi at all.
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Wow! You got the highest SOT of the V30 I have seen so far! Very impressive! Shows how long WiFi and a dark Theme can stretch battery on a good phone!
This is my best so far. It was on WiFi 95% of the time and 70% brightness basically the entire time. If do 50% brightness and a dark amoled theme I am confident I could surpass 9 hours of screen on time. I have seen no other flagship with battery screen on time this high.
i'm getting 7-8 hrs sot consistently, pretty amazing
Ya, I am really impressed with the battery SOT. My Nexus 6p would get less then half of that.
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Ya, I am really impressed with the battery SOT. My Nexus 6p would get less then half of that.
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You came from a 6P? Are you happy with it? I've got a 6P too and my V30 will be here on Tuesday. Just nervous about the switch from stock to LG's skin.
Are you even hoping for a stock rom once root is available, it are you liking it?
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You came from a 6P? Are you happy with it? I've got a 6P too and my V30 will be here on Tuesday. Just nervous about the switch from stock to LG's skin.
Are you even hoping for a stock rom once root is available, it are you liking it?
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So if you throw Nova or pixel launcher on it, it looks just like stock. You won't notice the lg stuff at all. I was a Nexus use myself and absolutely love this phone.
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You came from a 6P? Are you happy with it? I've got a 6P too and my V30 will be here on Tuesday. Just nervous about the switch from stock to LG's skin.
Are you even hoping for a stock rom once root is available, it are you liking it?
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So far. I love the phone. I am using the Pixel 2 mod launcher. I think you will be really happy with the V30. I may root it.
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So far. I love the phone. I am using the Pixel 2 mod launcher. I think you will be really happy with the V30. I may root it.
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I'm using the Pixel 2 Launcher right now on my 6P, but since it's a Nexus, I get to keep my Google now panel.
The only reason I even have my 6P rooted is so I can enable night lite. Otherwise, I wouldn't care to even have the stock Google Now launcher, but if I'm rooting I may as well do it all and go full Pixel Mods.
If I can use Nova or the Pixel 2 Launcher with root at some point I think I'm going to love it. I don't want to use another rom because you'll lose a lot of camera quality.
You've just made my nerves settle down though saying that you don't even notice the change that much with just a simple launcher swap.
Is there anything you like on it specifically? Like, "Damn glad I didn't get a Pixel because I wouldn't even have this LG feature."
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So if you throw Nova or pixel launcher on it, it looks just like stock. You won't notice the lg stuff at all. I was a Nexus use myself and absolutely love this phone.
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Thanks! I'm really excited for it and just kind want some answers to calm my nerves about my first non-stock Android phone....in a long time.
The only phone I had that wasn't "stock" android was a Droid X waaayyy back in the day when I was still crazy enough to be on Verizon ?. I went from a Palm Pre Plus, to a Droid X, to a Nexus 4, then N6, and finally my 6P. So again, I'm just nervous.
But I went into a T-Mo store and played with it for a bit and then camera is absolutely amazing and it was fast and fluid as hell even with the demo mode. PLUS, it's so much smaller than the 6P due to the decreased bezels which is awesome.
I'll definitely miss my front firing speakers though, for sure.
There is a thread here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/review/screen-time-t3664947
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I'm using the Pixel 2 Launcher right now on my 6P, but since it's a Nexus, I get to keep my Google now panel.
The only reason I even have my 6P rooted is so I can enable night lite. Otherwise, I wouldn't care to even have the stock Google Now launcher, but if I'm rooting I may as well do it all and go full Pixel Mods.
If I can use Nova or the Pixel 2 Launcher with root at some point I think I'm going to love it. I don't want to use another rom because you'll lose a lot of camera quality.
You've just made my nerves settle down though saying that you don't even notice the change that much with just a simple launcher swap.
Is there anything you like on it specifically? Like, "Damn glad I didn't get a Pixel because I wouldn't even have this LG feature."
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Thanks! I'm really excited for it and just kind want some answers to calm my nerves about my first non-stock Android phone....in a long time.
The only phone I had that wasn't "stock" android was a Droid X waaayyy back in the day when I was still crazy enough to be on Verizon ?. I went from a Palm Pre Plus, to a Droid X, to a Nexus 4, then N6, and finally my 6P. So again, I'm just nervous.
But I went into a T-Mo store and played with it for a bit and then camera is absolutely amazing and it was fast and fluid as hell even with the demo mode. PLUS, it's so much smaller than the 6P due to the decreased bezels which is awesome.
I'll definitely miss my front firing speakers though, for sure.
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You do know you can get the Nova launcher with the Google now screen without root right? Google it. I'm I using it right now.
I just use the Pixel 2 mod launcher. Works great.
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You do know you can get the Nova launcher with the Google now screen without root right? Google it. I'm I using it right now.
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Oh yes, I do know that. I actually used it for a little while on my 6P during the O previews if the actual Pixel Mods weren't updated quickly enough. It'd be nice if there was just a "Pixel/Nexus Mode" built into it though. There are just so many damn customization options that it's like IFTTT or Tasker for me. I'd rather spend the 5-10 minutes getting root and installed a few flashables then dig through menus and sub-menus of Nova. However, the one thing I do really like about Nova (and the reason I paid for premium) is because you can backup an exact config. So you can have one setup for the weekend with trail hiking/gps apps up front, and then back to outlook/messaging apps during the week, and lastly have all the casting and entertainment apps readied up in the evenings at home.
All in all though, I just like having the legit Pixel launcher installed. But if I want to keep the Google Now pane I may have to change how I do things.
It's shipping to the office tomorrow morning and we receive all of our UPS by 10:30-11am everyday, so I'll have the majority of the work day to get things how I like them and we'll just have to see!
Thanks!
More battery life means you need more control means installing Greenify and going pro with Greenify to sleep system apps . . . . . and then finally ( because we all are not rooted yet . . . ) do the developer plus ADB step to allow Greenify more privileges.
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The play store also has many "disable ( LG ) apps" - app -and- it/they also require you to do the developer plus ADB step to allow it more privileges . . .
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yes yes i know its not a nexus, it wont get the latest updates and that some say lg sucks. but the phone is pretty darn good , what do you guys think ? worthy upgrade ? im getting it tomorrow evening.
If you ordered it already it's useless for us to tell you if it's a good deal or not. You'll answer that yourself in a matter of days/weeks.
It would be nice if you'd share with us your findings, though.
Enjoy your new phone!
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If you ordered it already it's useless for us to tell you if it's a good deal or not. You'll answer that yourself in a matter of days/weeks.
It would be nice if you'd share with us your findings, though.
Enjoy your new phone!
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i considered the nexus 5 but the g2's features just killed the nexus 5 !
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yes yes i know its not a nexus, it wont get the latest updates and that some say lg sucks. but the phone is pretty darn good , what do you guys think ? worthy upgrade ? im getting it tomorrow evening.
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Worthy upgrade? Any flagship from this year is an upgrade from the GNex. On stock, it may not feel as smooth as a stock Nexus 4/5 though. Personally I don't like how the back looks like. Looks like extremely cheap frail plastic, but hey that's just looks in my eye.
I would say both Samsung and LG sucks in their own ways. LG makes horrible power buttons on the Nexus 4, Samsung for our phone has terrible everything, crappy screen, fault NAND for some, battery that goes to **** (random shut downs).
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i considered the nexus 5 but the g2's features just killed the nexus 5 !
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Just curious, what features do you like about the G2 that the Nexus 5 can't do?
I never liked the design of the G2. Like someone else said, the back looks ugly. And I never liked company branding on the front of the device. Verizon always does that. And I dont like custom company Android skins. I switched to T-Mobile and got myself a Nexus 5 and I love the crap out of it. lol
shriom_manerker said:
yes yes i know its not a nexus, it wont get the latest updates and that some say lg sucks. but the phone is pretty darn good , what do you guys think ? worthy upgrade ? im getting it tomorrow evening.
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I'm considering the same upgrade. I was going to get a Nexus 5 until I saw the reviews of issues with it and a few YouTube comparisons of the two. Plus I'd have to switch carriers. Let us know of any issues with the G2 if you end up having any.
The g2 kills it over the nexus 5, if your worried about updates just flash cyanogenmod 11 on it.
I don't want to rely on CM11 to do a better job than LG. I'd stay with flagship nexus because it's a safe assurance that Ota will come unlike the abandoned Optimus series that was tragically killed by LG
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akash3656 said:
Worthy upgrade? Any flagship from this year is an upgrade from the GNex. On stock, it may not feel as smooth as a stock Nexus 4/5 though. Personally I don't like how the back looks like. Looks like extremely cheap frail plastic, but hey that's just looks in my eye.
i dont mind the plastic feel to a device, performannnnnce is what i love and its pretty darn good
I would say both Samsung and LG sucks in their own ways. LG makes horrible power buttons on the Nexus 4, Samsung for our phone has terrible everything, crappy screen, fault NAND for some, battery that goes to **** (random shut downs).
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since this phone already has touch to wake in it, i wont have any issues with the power button
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Just curious, what features do you like about the G2 that the Nexus 5 can't do?
"""manual focus for the camera""" <<one of the main reasons, 60 fps video recording,8+ hrs screen on time (battery life basically),13 mp camera,touch to wake (on stock),remote control ,dual camera recording-photos, etc
I never liked the design of the G2. Like someone else said, the back looks ugly. And I never liked company branding on the front of the device. Verizon always does that. And I dont like custom company Android skins. I switched to T-Mobile and got myself a Nexus 5 and I love the crap out of it. lol
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i love the companys finishing touches . i hate touchwhiz and the way it makes the note 3 slow compared the g2. but lg has actually worked on this device a lot i can say.
bpyazel said:
I'm considering the same upgrade. I was going to get a Nexus 5 until I saw the reviews of issues with it and a few YouTube comparisons of the two. Plus I'd have to switch carriers. Let us know of any issues with the G2 if you end up having any.
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all the issues i know about the g2
1)camera is bad at night- it uses advanced noise reduction causing your photos to look like paintings (this was only at 1400 iso and above) , im a photpgraphy fan so i can jus tmanually set the iso lower than that and get excellent images ! i will post images once i get the device, ill help you don worry, this is a community and ill share almost everything i know about it
Misledz said:
I don't want to rely on CM11 to do a better job than LG. I'd stay with flagship nexus because it's a safe assurance that Ota will come unlike the abandoned Optimus series that was tragically killed by LG
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true, but soon ill be getting a job and i might not get this amount of time to do all these stuff, so i need a phone which fills my needs perfectly and for now thats the g2 battery backup of 60 hrs with 3.5 hours of screen on time ! thats HUGE ! if used continiously about 9 hours of screen on time fuking amazing
jsgraphicart said:
Just curious, what features do you like about the G2 that the Nexus 5 can't do?
I never liked the design of the G2. Like someone else said, the back looks ugly. And I never liked company branding on the front of the device. Verizon always does that. And I dont like custom company Android skins. I switched to T-Mobile and got myself a Nexus 5 and I love the crap out of it. lol
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Branding isn't that bad though. At least on certain devices they look and feel almost identical when u hold it up the wrong or right way up (especially the Nexus 5) With branding, you can at least "see" your holding the phone upside down. After a while, you'll probably get used to the device after a while.
Not that I'm a fan of branding, but it at least has a purpose. US carrier branding usually looks bad though.
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shriom_manerker said:
since this phone already has touch to wake in it, i wont have any issues with the power button
i love the companys finishing touches . i hate touchwhiz and the way it makes the note 3 slow compared the g2. but lg has actually worked on this device a lot i can say.
all the issues i know about the g2
1)camera is bad at night- it uses advanced noise reduction causing your photos to look like paintings (this was only at 1400 iso and above) , im a photpgraphy fan so i can jus tmanually set the iso lower than that and get excellent images ! i will post images once i get the device, ill help you don worry, this is a community and ill share almost everything i know about it
true, but soon ill be getting a job and i might not get this amount of time to do all these stuff, so i need a phone which fills my needs perfectly and for now thats the g2 battery backup of 60 hrs with 3.5 hours of screen on time ! thats HUGE ! if used continiously about 9 hours of screen on time fuking amazing
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Go for it bro and do give a feed back on how you like the phone so far best of luck buddy!
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shriom_manerker said:
since this phone already has touch to wake in it, i wont have any issues with the power button
i love the companys finishing touches . i hate touchwhiz and the way it makes the note 3 slow compared the g2. but lg has actually worked on this device a lot i can say.
all the issues i know about the g2
1)camera is bad at night- it uses advanced noise reduction causing your photos to look like paintings (this was only at 1400 iso and above) , im a photpgraphy fan so i can jus tmanually set the iso lower than that and get excellent images ! i will post images once i get the device, ill help you don worry, this is a community and ill share almost everything i know about it
true, but soon ill be getting a job and i might not get this amount of time to do all these stuff, so i need a phone which fills my needs perfectly and for now thats the g2 battery backup of 60 hrs with 3.5 hours of screen on time ! thats HUGE ! if used continiously about 9 hours of screen on time fuking amazing
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As for power button and touch to wake, the G2 is superior to the N5. N5 faces heavy battery drain (a few % an hour with it enabled). Seems like the panel used in the N5 is way different than the G2. If you need battery life, then the G2 is the right device for you haha. We all have different needs and preferences, this is the beauty of Android as we have choices.
enjoy your new phone dude! Nice choice :good:
PS: About Nexus 5... I had the chance to play with it for a while on a nearby shop...it felt so plastic and cheap, more like a toy than a real phone. For a sec I thought it was some kinda dummy phone but that wouldn't be possible since I was interacting with it. Gnex on my other hand seemed more like the real deal...even nexus 4... I don't know if you're getting me. Since I am a nexus fan, I would buy the damn thing (probably soon) but it is so light and plastic that it seems unreal
i got the g2 this afternoon <3 is so amazing ! lets see how it does after some usage
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enjoy your new phone dude! Nice choice :good:
PS: About Nexus 5... I had the chance to play with it for a while on a nearby shop...it felt so plastic and cheap, more like a toy than a real phone. For a sec I thought it was some kinda dummy phone but that wouldn't be possible since I was interacting with it. Gnex on my other hand seemed more like the real deal...even nexus 4... I don't know if you're getting me. Since I am a nexus fan, I would buy the damn thing (probably soon) but it is so light and plastic that it seems unreal
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Yeap it feels extremely light to hold. But I have a 3.4k mAh battery replacement on my GNex, so yea haha. Any phone will feel super thin and light after using my fat and heavy phone for months.
As for plastic feel, the longer I held my friend's Nexus 5, I felt the build wasn't too bad and quite nice. Either way I'll use a case on the N5 if I get one. I never used any protection on the GNex but the N5 feels too dangerous to hold naked lul. And newer screens are worse at preventing cracks than older screens so I'll also probably get a screen protector on the N5 (but I hate screen protectors!)
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shriom_manerker said:
i got the g2 this afternoon <3 is so amazing ! lets see how it does after some usage
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Keep us updated, but don't worry it should do just fine!
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yes yes i know its not a nexus, it wont get the latest updates and that some say lg sucks. but the phone is pretty darn good , what do you guys think ? worthy upgrade ? im getting it tomorrow evening.
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No no no no no
Only Nexus 5!
itasoulas said:
enjoy your new phone dude! Nice choice :good:
PS: About Nexus 5... I had the chance to play with it for a while on a nearby shop...it felt so plastic and cheap, more like a toy than a real phone. For a sec I thought it was some kinda dummy phone but that wouldn't be possible since I was interacting with it. Gnex on my other hand seemed more like the real deal...even nexus 4... I don't know if you're getting me. Since I am a nexus fan, I would buy the damn thing (probably soon) but it is so light and plastic that it seems unreal
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true ! i agree on that note gnex and nexus 4 are still more premium feeling devices
What's your experience so far with the Pixel XL?
I'm considering the Pixel XL but looks like there're a lot to lose in term of features (QI chargin, edge, compact body, SPay,...). I flashed mine S7e with the Unlocked U firmware so the bloatware is minimal and I'm getting >7hrs SOT. Is it worth it to switch?
Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.
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Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.
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The carrier's junks are bad. Since switched to the unlock firmware, my S7e feels like a different phone. No lag, run cooler, better battery life...
I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)
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I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)
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Not to mention it's possible at the moment to unlock, root, and do what you want with it. Really liking the photo sync at full resolution.
I've come from the s7e and I prefer this phone. I go through phones multiple times a year and this thing is a beast. Battery life is a lot better than my s7e and I much prefer the plain Android experience. Will hold onto this unless the mate 9 turns out to be epic.
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I upgraded from S7Edge. Its been a week now and i am loving pixel XL. Edge on S7Edge wasn't very useful to me...
just pulled the trigger today and ordered the xl, had the note 7, traded it in and was using my s6 for the time being. My s6 has turned into a giant pile, so i can not wait for december 9th when my xl ships. glad to hear some of the positive reviews
Upgraded to a Note 7 from a S7 Edge and to the Pixel XL from a Note 7... Enjoying the phone so far
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Came from a Note 7. There are definitely things I like about the pixel, but I certainly miss the Note. The s-pen, screen write, AoD, gif maker.. it just sucks to lose all that.
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Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.
The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .
been a samsung fan from the s1, had every phone, will no longer buy samsung due to locked bootloaders and bloated system even without carrier bloat. every single samsung lags, newer ones not as bad but still lag including the note 7 (bomb edition). the pixel just flies through every task, and being that your on xda, i would assume you like to mod your device, well in that category there is absolutely no comparason
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The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.
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Thats exactly what ive been using , i have an app that sets it to auto just a bit flacky for me it likes to kick off to quickly. When i keep it on i will agree it matches close to the note 7, but i liked the stock adaptive brightness that got into to the high brightness smoothly .... just a little picky i know
No going back to samsung now. I love their camera, i love their crazy fast autofocus but damn the software on the XL, just spoils you. This is truly lag free and an amazingly refreshing experience. It's no nonsense, cuts to the job of getting things done and has really good battery life.
I Had s7e, and the pixel flies in comparison, or at least it feels that way. Camera on s7e seemed to load just a tad quicker, but otherwise the pixel is much better
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st3ph3nbr!tt said:
Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.
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Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.
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Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.
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Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.
st3ph3nbr!tt said:
Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.
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What did Samsung disable? On my Note 7 and S7e I used Google Now fine and assistant in allo worked fine. They crippled the listening from always on when the screen is off to only allow when plugged in. I doubt it's pushing s voice though. I've never even opened the s voice app since the Note 4. Only reason I don't disable it is because it's tied to the voice to text framework
Correction, only reason I DIDN'T disable it, past tense
Well I pulled the trigger on a 128gb pixel xl today from google. It is supposed to ship out on May 5th. The battery on my 6p has degraded over time and it's no longer within warranty. So how are you guys enjoying the phone? What kind of battery life are you getting. I am glad to be upgrading to the SD821 from the 810. Is throttling much of an issue?
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Well I pulled the trigger on a 128gb pixel xl today from google. It is supposed to ship out on May 5th. The battery on my 6p has degraded over time and it's no longer within warranty. So how are you guys enjoying the phone? What kind of battery life are you getting. I am glad to be upgrading to the SD821 from the 810. Is throttling much of an issue?
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Hello,
I also had an N6P before the XL. I must say it took me some time to get used to the smaller screen, but after a few days, it's ok. I would like a N6P or N6P like Pixel XL 2 though... Camera is awesome. Screen colors could have been better. You can correct it a bit with a custom kernel and a kernel manager app though. I don't listen to music with my phone, but with the arrival of Android O and the new codecs, I guess I'm going to buy some good earbuds soon.
About battery life? I used to get decent battery with the N6P. Note that i am on wifi 90% of the time. I don't use social network apps. Mostly web browsing, SMS/MMS, photos and some YouTube. Check the attached screenshot. Since last charge, I only used my phone for web browsing on wifi. But with mixed usage, lot of apps syncing and 4G/LTE I guess it would be much less.
Phone stays cool where N6P used to get warm... Not using my phone for intensive tasks either but I can feel the difference. I don't play games, so I have never really experienced throttling with N6P either. Just the phone getting hotter than any other phones I already owned...
Hope that helps...
Cheers...
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Hello,
I also had an N6P before the XL. I must say it took me some time to get used to the smaller screen, but after a few days, it's ok. I would like a N6P or N6P like Pixel XL 2 though... [emoji14] Camera is awesome. Screen colors could have been better. You can correct it a bit with a custom kernel and a kernel manager app though. I don't listen to music with my phone, but with the arrival of Android O and the new codecs, I guess I'm going to buy some good earbuds soon.
About battery life? I used to get decent battery with the N6P. Note that i am on wifi 90% of the time. I don't use social network apps. Mostly web browsing, SMS/MMS, photos and some YouTube. Check the attached screenshot. Since last charge, I only used my phone for web browsing on wifi. But with mixed usage, lot of apps syncing and 4G/LTE I guess it would be much less.
Phone stays cool where N6P used to get warm... Not using my phone for intensive tasks either but I can feel the difference. I don't play games, so I have never really experienced throttling with N6P either. Just the phone getting hotter than any other phones I already owned...
Hope that helps...
Cheers...
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Thank you!
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Love the software the only phone I've bought that never lagged or stuttered on me EAS is amazing but price is a bit questionable other than the camera not really getting much for the price would of loved better audio one thing the Pixel is terrible at other than that it's a good phone
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Love the software the only phone I've bought that never lagged or stuttered on me EAS is amazing but price is a bit questionable other than the camera not really getting much for the price would of loved better audio one thing the Pixel is terrible at other than that it's a good phone
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Thanks man!
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Best camera, so awesome that even after selling the phone it keeps haunting me or something.
Best software experience. Phone is not as fast as a OP3T or something but I care about consistent performance and smoothness over burst performance.
Incredible call quality.
Very good battery life too.
The only reason I sold the phone was because of the touch screen issue I had on mine and then two other Pixels I tried too. Probably a hardware issue, or software calibration of the display, whatever it is it was annoying enough for me to not be able to use the phone, especially when I play games which require continuous touching.
Came from Nexus 6P (with a stop with iPhone 7+ until I got my Pixel XL) and to me its just an upgraded 6P, I loved my 6P only reason I got rid of it is I am on Verizon and they dont support WiFi calling with it and I built a new house with 9' basement and got no service whatsoever down there. Only thing I would change on the Pixel is cosmetic. Thing isnt the best looking phone but I'll take performance/stable/smooth and solid over how it looks any day. Tried the LG G6 and S8+ briefly and came right back to Pixel because it is still better IMO.
Coming from the 6P and OP3, it's a huge upgrade from the 6P in battery life, build quality, camera and performance, and a moderate upgrade from the OP3. Touch lag is pretty much nonexistent or barely perceptible, software is the best Google has ever released. You'll probably love it.
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Came from Nexus 6P (with a stop with iPhone 7+ until I got my Pixel XL) and to me its just an upgraded 6P, I loved my 6P only reason I got rid of it is I am on Verizon and they dont support WiFi calling with it and I built a new house with 9' basement and got no service whatsoever down there. Only thing I would change on the Pixel is cosmetic. Thing isnt the best looking phone but I'll take performance/stable/smooth and solid over how it looks any day. Tried the LG G6 and S8+ briefly and came right back to Pixel because it is still better IMO.
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I'm in the same boat currently. Moved into a new house & my Verizon coverage is spotty. Just found out the 6P can't do wifi calling on Verizon so I need another device. Did you buy your XL from Verizon or from the Google store? Trying to see if the unlocked version from Google will do wifi calling on Verizon
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I'm in the same boat currently. Moved into a new house & my Verizon coverage is spotty. Just found out the 6P can't do wifi calling on Verizon so I need another device. Did you buy your XL from Verizon or from the Google store? Trying to see if the unlocked version from Google will do wifi calling on Verizon
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Yea the Google version will do everything the Verizon version does and has unlocked bootloader if you ever plan on switching out ROMs etc. I have the Verizon version and wished I had the Google version if that helps.
I'm enjoying it a lot.
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Yea the Google version will do everything the Verizon version does and has unlocked bootloader if you ever plan on switching out ROMs etc. I have the Verizon version and wished I had the Google version if that helps.
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Yes Im definitely trying to avoid the Verizon version due to the locked bootloader. Love my 6p but I need wifi calling and the pixel is really the only option sadly.
Performance is amazing, no lag, scrolling smoothness is great, apps load quick. My only real criticism is the small SBR. But hey, I knew that before I bought it.
My iPhone is my daily driver. I am too invested in its software to Let It Go especially for work purposes. Whenever a new Samsung Galaxy phone comes out I always purchase it to test it out and it never lasts more than 2 weeks before I return it because I just hate the software and the lagginess. I have been eyeing the pixel XL for quite some time but I always got discouraged to purchase it given that it was consistently unavailable, and had long shipping wait times. Anyhow, I recently lucked out and was in the situation where I was able to purchase the pixel XL and took the plunge. All I can say is that the pixel XL is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used. This is really a step that Samsung needs to take if it intends to take away any of Apple's business. I personally care for good Hardware but put a premium on a phone's software. That is why I tend to always use the iPhone as my daily driver. But to be honest I've been using the pixel a lot more than my iPhone. I'm loving this phone. If you took this software and put it on the new Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 would probably be the phone of the year in my opinion. In the time I have been using the pixel, the phone has not lagged one time. I even overloaded the phone with applications and the phone still performs smoothly.
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My iPhone is my daily driver. I am too invested in its software to Let It Go especially for work purposes. Whenever a new Samsung Galaxy phone comes out I always purchase it to test it out and it never lasts more than 2 weeks before I return it because I just hate the software and the lagginess. I have been eyeing the pixel XL for quite some time but I always got discouraged to purchase it given that it was consistently unavailable, and had long shipping wait times. Anyhow, I recently lucked out and was in the situation where I was able to purchase the pixel XL and took the plunge. All I can say is that the pixel XL is the smoothest Android phone I've ever used. This is really a step that Samsung needs to take if it intends to take away any of Apple's business. I personally care for good Hardware but put a premium on a phone's software. That is why I tend to always use the iPhone as my daily driver. But to be honest I've been using the pixel a lot more than my iPhone. I'm loving this phone. If you took this software and put it on the new Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 would probably be the phone of the year in my opinion. In the time I have been using the pixel, the phone has not lagged one time. I even overloaded the phone with applications and the phone still performs smoothly.
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Yea I had an iPhone 7+ between my 6P and Pixel XL and like you said its so smooth and never lags, I use to be a big **** talker to my friends who used apple and after using it I get why people like it, just wasnt for me. I hated looking at 5000 icons and folders etc. If they ever got an app drawer it would be a different story but until then the OCD in me needs android and Pixel is the smoothest one out there. I too try each phone and I last maybe a week or so before I'm back to my Pixel because the new ones just cant keep up and arent worth $600-800 for how it looks.
Today I have a fight with my self about replacing my XL with S8+ , I was afraid of missing the software flexibility and customization and missing the smoothness and lag free software , so I decided to stay with the XL.
S8+ Have a nice screen , but actually using black profile on the kernel editor give me some sense of S8 screen colors .
Any way I couldn't replace the smoothness in XL with the screen colors in S8.
Coming from the S8+ and I could not be happier. The camera just amazes me. I forced myself this weekend to use the modes. What a great phone.
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Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.
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Yep, best phone out right now. It'll probably be the best phone of 2017. LG hit a home run with this one.
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I agree. It's only missing two things in my opinion.
- LED indicator
- Better front camera
I also didn't realize the benefit of having the headphone jack on the bottom until this phone.
Yeah I also prefer the headphone jack to be on the bottom.
Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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Yeah this makes no sense. I'm not married to this phone and want the best I can have. I honestly love this phone. I've considered sending back to get the XL 2 and that's merely for software updates. Not worth the lack in hardware, imo.
I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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I thought it was weird as well. I think I read that they were testing a Korean version for whatever reason. I'm guessing it's all that they were able to get a hold of while they tested, but it seems a bit unfair of them to not wait for a US carrier model like every other reputable publication.
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I ignore anything from the Verge. They are just stupid.
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All it takes to prove this right is a quick read of their opinion regarding the V30 audio/headphone jack. I know of basically a whole forum of people who would kill for a phone that has awesome audio and headphone jack. Problem is that the manufacturers can't seem to build a phone with that and everything else.
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I was a "never again" LG guy ...
So far, so good. Very happy with the V30.
In fact, for the most part, I actually like their skin over the stock Android from my Nexus. Few tweaks would really make it more useful, but no issue.
My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output
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Wow I feel like verge doesn't make sense anymore, "screen is bad" is just too much, you might have received a unit with issue but you can't call the v30 franchise bad
www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
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owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.
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My last LG was a G5 I returned it after 2 days due to the build issues. How is the V30? Really interested in the camera and audio output
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Camera is great, but not the best and audio output through the headphone jack is the best. I say the camera is not the best overall, but for me it kind of is because I would rather have the wide angle instead lens of 2x zoom.
Picked up my V30 from T-Mobile last night. My immediate impressions, coming from an S8 and previously a Pixel XL are that this phone is great but does have some immediate flaws.
Some initial thoughts:
- The finger print scanner is blazing fast. On par with my old OnePlus 3 and my Pixel XL. In comparison, the Samsung S8 fingerprint scanner is slow, often unresponsive, and in a horrible position.
- I work from my home office full time and I spend A LOT of time on client calls. I often have headphones plugged into my phone for these calls. I just got off of a conference call and could immediately tell that the audio output through even pretty basic in-ear headphones is significantly better than my S8 was. Voice clarity is much improved and people sound more like they are in the room with you, rather than on a conference call. This is HUGE for me. And I imagine that music quality will see this same improvement through the headphones.
- I was happy to see that there was SIGNIFICANTLY less bloatware to uninstall/disable on this phone than their was on my Samsung S8.
- The overall UI is extremely fluid and fast. The speed of opening quick settings and the notification drop down, navigating through settings, and swapping between apps is on par with my Pixel XL, which is a breath of fresh air coming from the S8. However, there is still some lag to be had within apps, but I'll discuss that below.
- The camera is excellent. I'm not seeing any blurry photos, as others have apparently seen.
The negatives...
- The stock LG dialer and messages apps are hilariously ugly. I was able to get a new theme installed, which cleaned those up a bit but it still doesn't compare to the stock Google dialer/messages apps. Future "Pixel" style themes for the V30 will likely fix this, though.
- I have seen noticeable and consistent scroll lag in some apps like Chrome, Instagram, Facebook, and even in LG's own themes app. I've changed animation scaling to .5x and enabled GPU rendering in developer settings but I haven't seen an improvement. I've only had my phone for about 12 hours at this point so I'm going to give it more time to adapt. However, if this doesn't improve and/or starts effecting more apps over time, it might actually be a deal breaker for me.
- I compared the Pixel 2 XL to the V30, side by side, in my local Verizon store. The front facing speakers on the 2 XL put the single bottom facing speaker on the V30 to complete shame. The downside is that those front facing speakers come with larger bezels, though. Unfortunately, in my short time using the V30, I've already found myself accidentally covering the bottom speaker more than once.
I still have my Pixel 2 XL on order and at the moment, I don't intend to cancel it. If I find that the lag I'm seeing in some apps does not improve over time, I'll probably return the V30 and hold out for my 2 XL. I don't want to give up wireless charging or the headphone jack. But I will if I have to, in order to get a 100% lag free phone. Especially at this $800+ price point.
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owning the note 8 the screen is bad. no contest, i didnt want to believe but the Samsung screen are ALOT. now compare to other screen thia is a great screen.
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I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying friend [emoji848]
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I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. I've tried LG's cleaner app and that doesn't help. I've tried enabling the force GPU rendering, and that doesn't help for me either. I'm hoping that future updates help out. This phone is the perfect size and feels so nice in the hand. I really don't want a different phone, so I'm going to wait and see if it gets better.
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@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
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He's saying that compared to the Samsung S8/S8+/Note 8 screens, the LG V30 screen doesn't look as good. I do concur with this. I wouldn't go back to the S8 because I much prefer the overall feel and UI of the V30. However, compared to the screen on my S8, the V30's screen looks noticeably washed out. My current long term decision is between the V30 or the Pixel 2 XL, which essentially share the same screen. So this is not much of a consideration for me. However, I could actually see this being a deal breaker for some.
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[/COLOR]@sn0warmy...you can find the stock Google dialer on APK mirror, I posted a link in a thread about the dialer. And you can download the Google Messages app from Google play.
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That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
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That's right. Forgot about that. I'll try installing those. I'm just afraid I won't be able to truly replace the stock LG dialer/messages app system wide. But hopefully I'm wrong.
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They do replace the stock LG apps. You just have to make sure and set them as your default dialer and message apps
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I'm starting to experience lag and stuttering also. This goes away with a reboot, but I don't really want to be forced to reboot several times a day. .
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Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
My G6 has weird, terrible lag sometimes too. A reboot does fix it, but waiting a while sometimes makes it go away too. I know this is a V30 forum, but sad to see this issue persists across these 2 devices. Its not a deal breaker for me, but sure is something that I experience way too often on a 2017 smartphone.
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Yeah, it's quite disheartening. I honestly think that if they went with 6GB of RAM, the lag/stuttering would be a non-issue. The lack of 6GB of RAM in these 2017 flagships, including the Pixel 2 XL, really has me scratching my head.
I believe this is the sole reason why the Note 8 (with 6GB RAM) crushes the V30 in Phonebuff's head to head speed tests. For instance, the V30 beats the S8+ (with 4GB RAM) in the same speed test.
If OnePlus can easily do it, LG and Google should be able to, as well.
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My 6 Pro got delivered this morning and I've spent the entire day setting up and playing with it - this phone is absolutely incredible! (Also the nerd in me is happy to see people shortening the 6 Pro to 6P, I loved my Nexus 6P)
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Can't comment on battery life yet but wow, the display, the cameras and the speakers are all excellent! Haptics are nice and tight, the entire phone feels snappy and gorgeous! Also shout out to the natural depth effect from the 4x telephoto camera, that's a lot of fun to play with.
As someone who's owner multiple Pixel phones in the past, I think every reviewer is on the mark when they say this is the first no compromise Pixel - Google have outdone themselves I fully believe it deserves the hype it's getting!
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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and that search bar so annoying
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and that search bar so annoying
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Yep and no option to change or move it
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Yep and no option to change or move it
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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
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By your logic, you may as well not download ANY apps on the playstore and just strictly use apps that are stock on the phone. Pfft.
Stock launchers, since the dawn of Android, have been the most atrocious launchers there are. I've been using Nova ever since Android Donut and have never looked back since.
It was one of the worst phones I've owned, sadly. Sold it in the end after 3 months.
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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Totally agree. Nova fits my needs very well and gives me everything I want in a launcher, with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
Like I said, not a big deal and I'll take it like that. Just a little bummed out because it almost feels like I have a low/mid range phone that isn't fully ready to tackle that initial tap on the home screen because the processor is too slow or the RAM is too low. I really wish it picked up that first immediate tap when going back to the home screen after exiting an app, only thing I miss from the stock launcher. Ok, my rant is done.
I had a high degree of interest in the Pixel 6 pro but in the end a few things steered me in another direction:
- Canada wasn't deemed worthy of the 512 GB model.
- Placed an order for the 256 GB model Jan 01, was still waiting for it Feb 09.
- Spent my time learning as much as I could about the device while waiting for it only to come to the conclusion that
there are way to many unresolved issues with conectivity and audio DAC incomatability etc.
Hopefully they get it right with the Pixel 7 Pro and decide that all regions deserve the same storage options.
The only issue I've run into, is the signal level on the phone. In areas where I would have "full bars", on my old A71 samsung, I have 1/2 bars.
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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....... with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
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It's a well known issue with 3rd-party launchers and A12. I have the same experience with Smart Launcher and still can't find a solution.
I don't fully agree honestly.
There really hasn't been a phone released in the past 3 or 4 years that has lived up to any real hype.
Maybe the Foldables but those are not on my radar currently.
Phone tech is pretty stagnant and the biggest issue we have right now are companies releasing BETA products and BETA software to consumers.
Consumers keep buying into the hype and companies will keep releasing BETA products.
I have the P6P, P6 and a S21 Ultra.
My S21 Ultra has more advanced Google features than any of my Pixel 6's do.
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Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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13 radio on 12L? worth it?
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Personally I have found the Pixel 6 Pro to be a very good phone. I have been fortunate that I have not had the issues that some have had and Fingerprint reader on the whole reads first time, no random reboots, battery that lasts all day even when only charged to 80% (and still leaves me with 30% before re-charging).
I have the Mobile Network Standby reading a stupid number (40%+ recently) but this was 6% back when I got it and the actually battery usage has not changed, so don't feel it is an issue of any consequence.
Signal wise, not had any issues, its about the same as my OnePlus 6T was but this gets 5G when in a signal area which that phone couldn't.
There have been some things I haven't liked in Android 12 and the Pixel Launcher, so I have kept the Apex Launcher I used on the OnePlus and have kept the backgrounds to a minimum to not trigger the colour theming (do prefer greyscale anyway).
On the phone pretty pleased with it and don't have anything that is annoying me.
Will soon swap to a eSim so that I can add my work Sim which from what I am hearing may cause an issue, but will see what happens, can always switch back if needs be until fixed.
One of the reasons for using Android is the freedom to customise things like the launcher and the experience. If I was going to stick solely to what the manufacturer was supplying then I would have an iPhone (Not )
can we just be civil please. We all bought a Pixel 6 because we are the 1%'ers (kind of like a biker club). There are lots of great things about the Pixel Launcher (fluidity, simplicity etc) but there are also great things about Nova Launcher (customization etc). So it's about personal preference - just like choosing a Pixel over a Samsung.
Many times when reading comments on a forum, its hard to get your point across (or the real meaning behind your comment gets hidden). So I just wanted everyone to think about that for a second.
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Works for me, best reception and speed I've had yet
I love my p6pro with root I'm on 12L and have experienced bugs though, like occasional freezing and unresponsive screen. The Bluetooth cuts out on my headphones sometimes, but it's still the best phone I've owned. No complaints at all here with the p6pro
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I'm running the latest 12l radio on stock February update. Also the best bandwidth I've had yet.