So I live in an area that has MetroPCS LTE and AT&T LTE. So I can test if my phone can see LTE. When I switch it to LTE in Engineering Mode I am able to see MetroPCS towers (I have not gone to an area with AT&T LTE yet as I'm doing this at work where only MetroPCS LTE is visible as well as Verizon LTE, which I am unsure if the Note 2 can even see that LTE band).
To do this I did the sim trick where I booted with the SIM card in then popped it out with the phone still on, This allows me to see all networks in the area (iirc). During normal operation I can see T-Mobile, AT&T,and MetroPCS. When I switch to LTE only I am able to see only MetroPCS. Which has me curious if LTE is already enabled as I can see it but cannot connect to it. What steps would I take to be able to test if LTE is actually working?
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So I live in an area that has MetroPCS LTE and AT&T LTE. So I can test if my phone can see LTE. When I switch it to LTE in Engineering Mode I am able to see MetroPCS towers (I have not gone to an area with AT&T LTE yet as I'm doing this at work where only MetroPCS LTE is visible as well as Verizon LTE, which I am unsure if the Note 2 can even see that LTE band).
To do this I did the sim trick where I booted with the SIM card in then popped it out with the phone still on, This allows me to see all networks in the area (iirc). During normal operation I can see T-Mobile, AT&T,and MetroPCS. When I switch to LTE only I am able to see only MetroPCS. Which has me curious if LTE is already enabled as I can see it but cannot connect to it. What steps would I take to be able to test if LTE is actually working?
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Depends in which market you're located. Also, if you unlock your Note 2 you could go to AT&T LTE area and pop in AT&T SIM. If you're connecting to their Band 17 LTE, you're good.
Also, T-Mo LTE is only accessible to T-Mo employees, not sure if it's visible to us at this point.
I'm more curious if the LTE radio is active in the first place. I'll have to bug someone and borrow an LTE sim. I know I can't get on TMobile LTE right now but I might see about testing other LTE.
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Hi all,
While back in the USA, I was lucky enough to get a new Nexus 7 (2103) 32GB LTE model which shipped with a T-Mobile micro SIM card good for prepaid data access plans. However, I live in the Netherlands and when I tried to use my Nexus with a micro SIM from my provider Vodafone, it was not able to properly list the mobile network operators.
I opened a technical support incident with Google Play services who lead me through several diagnostic steps which included verifying that the tablet is not SIM or carrier locked, it properly recognizes the available networks with other carriers SIM cards (worked with T-Mobile USA, Telecom DE, MTN NG, Rogers CA) it also can list the mobile networks with no SIM in the device. But when a Vodafone SIM is added, it simply doesn't recognize any network operators. It's not a matter of APN settings, as we have verified these are correct, but the problem occurs at a very early level in preventing the mobile networks from being listed.
I believe this to be somehow related to the SIM card/middleware used to communicate with the SIM to the hardware. I see this behavior with the LTE Factory Image JLS36C as well as the Cyanogen Mod 10.2 unofficial deb builds.
Are there any other LTE users that are having a similar problem? Without mobile network access, my LTE model is effectively a WiFi only model and I'd really like to get this fixed.
buckofive said:
While back in the USA, I was lucky enough to get a new Nexus 7 (2103) 32GB LTE model which shipped with a T-Mobile micro SIM card good for prepaid data access plans. However, I live in the Netherlands and when I tried to use my Nexus with a micro SIM from my provider Vodafone, it was not able to properly list the mobile network operators.
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As has been posted quite a few times already, the US and Europe use different channels for LTE. So a US N7 will not work with all European providers and vice versa. Most probably Vodafone uses one of the LTE channels not supported on the US N7. So you have two choices:
1. Find a different provider that uses the channels supported by the US N7.
2. Replace your current US N7 with an European N7 model.
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As has been posted quite a few times already, the US and Europe use different channels for LTE. So a US N7 will not work with all European providers and vice versa. Most probably Vodafone uses one of the LTE channels not supported on the US N7. So you have two choices:
1. Find a different provider that uses the channels supported by the US N7.
2. Replace your current US N7 with an European N7 model.
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While the US and Europe do have some variance in LTE bands - we confirmed that the bands used by Vodafone NL are as listed below:
Nexus 7 (2013) Tech Specs (LTE)
Network
North America and Japan:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/2100/AWS (1700/2100) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Rest of World:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/2100/AWS (1700/2100) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
Wireless
Dual-band Wi-Fi (2.4G/5G) 802.11 a/b/g/n
We confirmed that Vodafone NL use 4G data enabled in a combination of the 800MHz and 1800MHz bands which are listed as supported.
The fact that my N7 can connect to other mobile networks in Europe with other carrier SIM cards also disproves the need to get a "European" model to connect to a network. There clearly is a problem with the Vodafone SIM and the NA Nexus, but simply blaming it on the channel or bands is not correct. Addittionally, even if the LTE connection is not possible 3G connection via HSPA+ or 2G GSM connection should be possible. The same Vodafone SIM worked with my N7 2013 3G model, which was also from NA, so it is clearly not an issue with the bands & channels.
Have you tried manually changing your prefered network type in testing menu *#*#4636#*#*
Since there is no dialler on N7 deb, I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freespirit.hms&hl=en
From tablet info submenu, u can also use settings button (3 dots) to manually select radio band
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Since there is no dialler on N7 deb, I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freespirit.hms&hl=en
From tablet info submenu, u can also use settings button (3 dots) to manually select radio band
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Thanks for the tips regarding the Hidden Menus application. I've installed it and set the GSM/UMTS band to EURO Band (GSM-900/DCS-1800/WCDMA-IMT-2000) but still not had any luck detecting mobile networks with the Vodafone SIM inserted. After removing the SIM and restarting, performing the same operation to search for available networks shows the four network operators in this region. I'm currently in Germany and in this area it shows
E-Plus
o2- de
Telekom.de
Vodafone.de
If I replace the Vodafone NL sim and try the same operation again, Settings | Mobile Networks | Network Operators - it searches for only a second or two (compared to the 15 or so it takes with no SIM installed) then does not show any networks.
All signs point to the issue being with the SIM chip OS or incompatability of the SIM chip profiles with the Nexus 7 (2013) LTE model. I didn't have any issues with this and my Nexus 7 (2012) 3G version.
In another strange hardware related issue, I have noticed that the Nexus 7 (2013) uses a different NFC stack and does not recognize all of the NFC tags that the 2012 model recognizes. A co-worker with the 2013 Wifi only version ordered some NFC tiles but they don't work with either his or my 2013 model, but work with the 2012 model. Very curious if this is somehow related to the issue that I see with the SIM card problem I am having.
Any other ideas?
Did you find a solution?
buckofive said:
Thanks for the tips regarding the Hidden Menus application. I've installed it and set the GSM/UMTS band to EURO Band (GSM-900/DCS-1800/WCDMA-IMT-2000) but still not had any luck detecting mobile networks with the Vodafone SIM inserted. After removing the SIM and restarting, performing the same operation to search for available networks shows the four network operators in this region. I'm currently in Germany and in this area it shows
E-Plus
o2- de
Telekom.de
Vodafone.de
If I replace the Vodafone NL sim and try the same operation again, Settings | Mobile Networks | Network Operators - it searches for only a second or two (compared to the 15 or so it takes with no SIM installed) then does not show any networks.
All signs point to the issue being with the SIM chip OS or incompatability of the SIM chip profiles with the Nexus 7 (2013) LTE model. I didn't have any issues with this and my Nexus 7 (2012) 3G version.
In another strange hardware related issue, I have noticed that the Nexus 7 (2013) uses a different NFC stack and does not recognize all of the NFC tags that the 2012 model recognizes. A co-worker with the 2013 Wifi only version ordered some NFC tiles but they don't work with either his or my 2013 model, but work with the 2012 model. Very curious if this is somehow related to the issue that I see with the SIM card problem I am having.
Any other ideas?
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Hello All,
Apologies for the opportunistic first post but I only "discovered" this forum today.
I am facing the same issue as buckofive and was wondering whether anyone has ever found a solution?
Thank you.
ricmartins said:
Hello All,
Apologies for the opportunistic first post but I only "discovered" this forum today.
I am facing the same issue as buckofive and was wondering whether anyone has ever found a solution?
Thank you.
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Unfortunately, I have not been successful in getting this resolved. I've visited Vodafone several times, but none of their in store personnel have been able to give me any other answer than "it doesn't work" and we also see this with North American Nexus 5 handsets. I've done some addditional testing with other MNO SIM cards with American, Dutch, and German T-mobile SIMs and they work flawlessly and with 4G LTE speed, so it isn't a question of network or band.
The issue is definitely related to the SIM card OS and version. However, Vodafone have been unable to tell me what the SIM vendor is and what the chip operating system is.
Vodafone promised a solution
I have AGAIN asked Vodafone for help and they promised me a solution. I have my doubts ad will post an update next week once i hear back from them.
buckofive said:
Unfortunately, I have not been successful in getting this resolved. I've visited Vodafone several times, but none of their in store personnel have been able to give me any other answer than "it doesn't work" and we also see this with North American Nexus 5 handsets. I've done some addditional testing with other MNO SIM cards with American, Dutch, and German T-mobile SIMs and they work flawlessly and with 4G LTE speed, so it isn't a question of network or band.
The issue is definitely related to the SIM card OS and version. However, Vodafone have been unable to tell me what the SIM vendor is and what the chip operating system is.
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I have AGAIN asked Vodafone for help and they promised me a solution. I have my doubts ad will post an update next week once i hear back from them.
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Did you hear anything back from Vodafone? They have simply told me they don't support the device and explain that it is due to a North American device, which is simply not true. I've tested with T-Mobile data card from The Netherlands and also from Telekom in Germany and the Nexus 7 2013 gets 40+ Mbps download speeds on those networks. So the issue is clearly related to the Vodafone SIM cards, but no one has been able to give me any insight as to what card OS they are using, so it is very hard to troublehsoot the problem any further.
Two big thumbs down for Vodafone service & support!
Any news on this problem yet? I have exactly the same problem, I can use a KPN sim but my Vodafone sim simply won't work in my US Nexus 7. This sucks, I upgraded to a multisim Red Super subscription to be able to use my new tablet anywhere without having to tether.
I made sure to check which bands the US Nexus supports and figured in a worst case scenario I would simply use 3G instead of 4G. But it won't connect to 3G either
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Any news on this problem yet? I have exactly the same problem, I can use a KPN sim but my Vodafone sim simply won't work in my US Nexus 7. This sucks, I upgraded to a multisim Red Super subscription to be able to use my new tablet anywhere without having to tether.
I made sure to check which bands the US Nexus supports and figured in a worst case scenario I would simply use 3G instead of 4G. But it won't connect to 3G either
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I have the issue as well. openend a ticket with Vodafone and directed them to this thread. unfortunately they were thus far also not able to solve it yet. hopefully something will happen, as otherwise I will need to drop Vodafone....
I also tested it with a KPN sim which worked perfectly. two Vodafone sims and a duo sim all had the same issue. Real strange thing is that with the KPN sim I was able to see the Vodafone network. But on the Vodafone sim I wasn't able to see any network. They assured my it was not a 4G only sim card, thus it was also strange the nexus did not pick a 2G or 3G network. In the settings though I could not change the 4G perferred setting to either 2G or 3G. it immediately reverted back to the 4G setting....
All in all, no realy help yet, only confirmation of what is being seen above.
pwvandeursen said:
I have the issue as well. openend a ticket with Vodafone and directed them to this thread. unfortunately they were thus far also not able to solve it yet. hopefully something will happen, as otherwise I will need to drop Vodafone....
I also tested it with a KPN sim which worked perfectly. two Vodafone sims and a duo sim all had the same issue. Real strange thing is that with the KPN sim I was able to see the Vodafone network. But on the Vodafone sim I wasn't able to see any network. They assured my it was not a 4G only sim card, thus it was also strange the nexus did not pick a 2G or 3G network. In the settings though I could not change the 4G perferred setting to either 2G or 3G. it immediately reverted back to the 4G setting....
All in all, no realy help yet, only confirmation of what is being seen above.
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I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on the response from Vodafone. I've had a ticket open for months with them, and it supposedly has been escalated. I've inquired in person with the so called "specialists" and they simply say it doesn't work with their SIMs. Yet nobody can tell me anything about the SIM, like manufacturer card OS, etc. It is really frustrating to hear this as I work with smart card and SIM middleware developers and if we had a bit to work with we might be able to fix the problem on our own.
I was at the end of my rope and extreme frustrated with them and wanted to cancel my contract, but they said that despite me paying for months of service that I haven't been able to use, that I would have to pay the remaining duration of my contract before I could switch to T-Mobile, which I think is total crap.
dual sim same problem with vodafone NL
I have the same issue. I use a dual sim from Vodafone in my Nexus 5 and Nexus 7. The Nexus 5 does not show these problems, but the 7 does. When I buy prepay mobile data abroad (Europe, Asia, US, Australia), the Nexus 7 2013 C works great with e.g. Orange, t-Mobile, Vodafone etc. But as my cellular subscription is a corporate one, at home I have to stick to wifi, for almost 2 years now! (I bought the 7 in Australia about 2 years ago). And yes exchanging sims between the devices does not make a difference. The combination vodafone NL sim + nexus 7 does not provide mobile data.
It won't show 4G just HSDPA at maximum.
I have this problem for my sister's LG Optimus G E975. Not rooted. I've checked that the network (Smart Philippines) supports this phone with LTE with bands 1, 3 & 5. But all we get is HSDPA. I've tried *#*#4636*#*# to manually select LTE only then network unavailable. I don't know how to fix this. Well clearly Im really new here so I hope someone helps. Thanks.
I know in that specific area where my sister tries to detect 4G, there's 4G because I have my Nexus 7 LTE, same network. I do detect 4G connection.
I believe special sim card is needed, which supports LTE. I have one old sim about 4 years old, it does not show 4g networks, if i switch sim, which was sold as 4g card, it shows LTE networks on the same phone.
Maybe you should contact your service provider about that.It is also possible where ever you are,there is no 4G coverage.
I meant to use band 5 lte in indonesia with smartfren using vs986. I used shortcut master lite app to enable band 5 (and/or disable irrelevant lte bands). However i still cant connect to it. I am certain that my location is under that lte band 5 coverage given that when i used other gsm sim i could see the network and attempt a registration on the network. Furthermore, seeing the networks rat id also match with the information online that it is indeed a band 5 lte network. However when i pop in the band 5 lte network gsm sim card, i am no longer able to scan for networks, it just fails to scan everytime, thus i cant connect. I wonder if there is a workaround to make vs986 able to connect to other lte networks other than verizon.
P.s. im on slim 13b rooted/xposed.
It's not just the bands. Verizon really borked the firmware of the phone to make sure that it doesn't work on any other 4G LTE network than its own. For instance, it doesn't work on AT&T and T-Mobile LTE network in the US either, even though the bands are supported.
What you can try is to switch the phone to "LTE/CDMA" mode in the "Network mode" settings. This will probably kill your phone connection, but if you get 4G LTE then, then you can try the same hack that worked for T-Mobile: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/general/guide-fix-vs986-dropping-to-3g-h-4g-lte-t3272434
But on some networks, there is no hope, for instance nobody was able to get it to work on AT&T.
I think i did check that thread out when i used t-mobile for about 6 months in seattle/udistrict/uvillage/uw areas, with no success. I never got the LTE connection. I wonder maybe its related to different roms/kdz/flashfire modified version of 13b that cause it. I hope someone whos lucky enough to get lte might share info about their 13b version/softwares that you debloat using debloater or froze using tibu. Thanks.
P.s. it was on 4g for an instant before it gives me no signal/network.
Why would VZW disable B5 if they have B5 sites?
That would really be stupid.
Posted using a calculator and delayed by AT&T.
LTE 2/4/5/13 can be activated using Shortcut master lite. The problem is that, when i used a simcard that utilized LTE band 3/8, i could detect/attempt registration to signal from LTE band 5 from local network through GSM (given that i activated it). However when I used simcard for that LTE band 5 network, somehow, i can no longer use gsm/cant search for network/crashed. It seemed that LTE antennae on this device is programmed to only accept verizon's. (For lte networks, apns are saved when i put MCC/MNC or RAT for verizons, but discarded when i put other). Thank god though i could still use umts/3g.
Edit: So i tried again. Turns out, i could to get registered on the network, checked on network type and strength (says 4g - 3/4 bars) also on lte discovery says connected. However signal bars says unable to connect to network. Verizon definitely prevent users to use lte on another network. What a **** company.
this is from Verizon website them self
Network
CDMA, GSM, LTE*
Frequencies
1.9 GHz CDMA PCS, 800 MHz CDMA, GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, LTE 2/4/5/13, LTE 3/7 for Roaming*
which show it support band 3 in case of romaing only..but if you are in USA will not work sure as it is not romaing.
So I have a Verizon model M9 using it with a GSM sim. Its a data sim which can roam on both T-Mobile and AT&T.
Here is my issue, T-Mobile is only EDGE in my area, and the phone works perfectly fine on that, but for some strange reason on AT&T HSPA+/3G It will work for a few min and all the sudden stop working even though "H" will still be at the top of the phone like data is there when its went away.
Its not the carrier, or the sim as this exact sim works perfectly fine with my Verizon G4, iPhone 6S, iPhone 5, and so on with no issues.
Any suggestions for those who use this model on another carrier? Or any suggestions what May be causing this?
I've changed my SKU, S-off, root, etc even running stock roms (non verizon roms) , same issue so its not Verizon software causing it. Also tried setting it to WCDMA and other settings and the issue still occurs.
Any ideas would be great! I really like this phone and hate to have to sell it and go find something else or may end up going back to my G2 for my 2nd line. Could Fast Dormancy cause this?
Thanks!
You're going to be handicapped by the physical limitations of the Verizon M9. Check out what bands T-Mobile & AT&T use and see which ones match up with your moel. The bands that the Verizon HTC M9 supports are:
LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700MHz),
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900)
HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
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You're going to be handicapped by the physical limitations of the Verizon M9. Check out what bands T-Mobile & AT&T use and see which ones match up with your moel. The bands that the Verizon HTC M9 supports are:
LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700MHz),
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900)
HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
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Thanks but it's not a matter of being supported. It supports AT&T 100% 2G and 3G wise. I get HSPA+ just fine without issue its a matter of the phone some how loosing data connection randomly until putting it into airplane mode or rechoosing the network under network selection. But it's fully supported AT&T 3G wise.
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There is a thread in the forums by stifilz to enable more bands but if that's not the issue than something that worked for me was here
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There is a thread in the forums by stifilz to enable more bands but if that's not the issue than something that worked for me was here
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Thanks I might try that. Yeah it's not the matter of the bands is the issue.
What's strange is I'm not having signal issues as signal is perfect it's just the weird loosing data issue while signal is perfectly fine. But worth a shot.
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