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verizon pixel... question..........

okay so Bestbuy has pixel XL black 32gb in stock, can pickup same day whatever. get them to hopefully price match google or verizon as it makes sense?... anywho, what i want to know is can i unlock my verizon bestbuy pixel and adb flash it to googles standard stock rom their pixel comes with and will it receive updates, unlocked, and adb flashed to 100% stock? and will there be any difference between my phone and googles minus the fact I picked it up at BestBuy, and also for any form of warranty support, would I contact google? I know back in the 6P days if you bought it at bestbuy youd have to contact hauwei as google didnt support it at that point.. it had to be bought from them...
or should i suck it up, wait for the XL on googles website......

imablackhat said:
okay so Bestbuy has pixel XL black 32gb in stock, can pickup same day whatever. get them to hopefully price match google or verizon as it makes sense?... anywho, what i want to know is can i unlock my verizon bestbuy pixel and adb flash it to googles standard stock rom their pixel comes with and will it receive updates, unlocked, and adb flashed to 100% stock? and will there be any difference between my phone and googles minus the fact I picked it up at BestBuy, and also for any form of warranty support, would I contact google? I know back in the 6P days if you bought it at bestbuy youd have to contact hauwei as google didnt support it at that point.. it had to be bought from them...
or should i suck it up, wait for the XL on googles website......
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Is it the Verizon Pixel XL? Or Google Pixel XL?

Scott said:
Is it the Verizon Pixel XL? Or Google Pixel XL?
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Bestbuy only sells Verizon's version as far as I know.

imablackhat said:
can i unlock my verizon bestbuy pixel and adb flash it to googles standard stock rom their pixel comes with and will it receive updates, unlocked, and adb flashed to 100% stock? and will there be any difference between my phone and googles minus the fact I picked it up at BestBuy, and also for any form of warranty support, would I contact google?
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Yes, you can unlock the bootloader with Depixel8 (at least until 12/5. Who knows after that). And you can flash any factory image that you want.
But you'll have to live with the verified boot warning screen during boot. And Google won't cover the warranty. You'll have to go back to VZW.

So you're saying the Google play or Project FI version both you can unlock without getting a dumb warning, and google will cover under warranty? if I order from Project FI can I use on Verizon? (is this the same version of the google pixel on the playstore)

imablackhat said:
So you're saying the Google play or Project FI version both you can unlock without getting a dumb warning, and google will cover under warranty? if I order from Project FI can I use on Verizon? (is this the same version of the google pixel on the playstore)
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They are all the same and pretty sure the images are the same too except for radios really. Only difference is Verizon has a locked bootloader.

imablackhat said:
So you're saying the Google play or Project FI version both you can unlock without getting a dumb warning, and google will cover under warranty? if I order from Project FI can I use on Verizon? (is this the same version of the google pixel on the playstore)
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All have a locked bootloader. The Google Play version can be unlocked easily/normally. The Verizon version needs "outside intervention" in the form of Depixel8. Works now but possibly not after next security update.
And you will get the stupid bootloader unlock warning on all versions.
You can use any version on any carrier. There's no carrier lock. So yes, you can use one ordered from Google on Verizon. I'm using a Verizon version on Project Fi, FWIW.

JAYNO20 said:
Bestbuy only sells Verizon's version as far as I know.
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All have a locked bootloader. The Google Play version can be unlocked easily/normally. The Verizon version needs "outside intervention" in the form of Depixel8. Works now but possibly not after next security update.
And you will get the stupid bootloader unlock warning on all versions.
You can use any version on any carrier. There's no carrier lock. So yes, you can use one ordered from Google on Verizon. I'm using a Verizon version on Project Fi, FWIW.
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Pixel XL 2: Unlocked and Verizon Variants in Google Store

This may be premature since the phones haven't shipped yet but when I go to order the phone on Google's website they give an option for a Verizon version with a sim card or an unlocked version. If both phones are the same except one has a locked bootloader then why bother to do this? Why not let Verizon sell their own variant with a locked bootloader? Are there any disadvantages or missing features when using the unlocked version on Verizon???
If both phones were the same and acted the same when on Verizon then I'd be royally pissed if I bought the Verizon pixel from Google's site only to find it had a locked bootloader. I'll bet that a lot of people will buy the Verizon version from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can still be unlocked because they bought it from Google and not at the Verizon store. I'm surprised more people aren't discussing this and warning others. In the past if you bought a gen. 1 pixel from the Google store it was guaranteed to be unlockable but now it doesn't seem to be the case and Verizon probably convinced Google to con purchasers into doing this since they get such a hard-on about locking bootloaders.
Now if the unlocked version doesn't work the same on the Verizon network (I.e. Volte does not work or signal strength isn't as good then I don't feel too bad about Google selling both variants directly from their store.
Thoughts??

I don't believe the Gen 1 Verizon pixel was ever intended to have an unlockable bootloader.

No it wasn't but there was no way to purchase a Verizon Gen 1 pixel from Google like there is for the Gen 2. If you wanted an unlocked bootloader you just bought the only pixel offered on the Google store. Now there is two options from the same store. I'm just worried that people will get the Verizon version from the Google store (not Verizon store) thinking that it's unlocked because they bought it from Google, not Verizon.
Do both phones (Verizon and unlocked versions) operate on the same bands with same features when activated on Verizon network?

The option for the version states that a SIM is included. My only guess is that they toss a SIM card in the box for you if you select Verizon.
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I was wondering the same thing, I plan on activating on Verizon when I receive my unlocked XL 2. But decided to buy the unlocked version just in case there was something stupid like a locked down bootloader or something weird.

I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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sabbotage said:
I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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Go in and reorder it, I switched from a Panda Verizon XL 2 128gb that was gonna get delivered Nov7-9th to just black 128gb xl 2 unlocked which said Oct 25th. The shipping dates havent really changed much.

sabbotage said:
I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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Same for me: no mention of Unlocked or Verizon on order acknowledgment...
If you are unsure, the advice to cancel and reorder is good, just with penalty of
later shipping.

I ordered mine while *slightly inebriated" last night. This morning I simply canceled my order and reordered it while 100% sober so that I knew 100% that I ordered an unlocked version and not the Verizon model. The order history didn't state unlocked or Verizon so I just wasn't sure... You can't be too sure of these types of things lol =)

Thanks for the post. I made the mistake of ordering the Verizon version. It does say this in the description on the order confirmation. Reordered and delivery date was reduced to October 27 from Nov 20.
(64 GB, Just Black, Verizon SIM-enabled
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It would be the first time for me to order a google (pixel) phone.
Im am from Germany, will the pixel from "Deutsche Telekom" (T-Mobile) be different than the one straight from the google store? :/
@EDIT: Asked the Support from Telekom Deutschland and tehy told me, that there isnt a difference between the Telekom Device and the Google Store Device in relation to Bootloader, updates or bloatware.

Can anyone verify if the unlocked version works the same as the Verizon version when on the Verizon network? Does volte and vvm work the same? Does the unlocked version have access to the same cell towers and lte bands? Or does Verizon cripple some features on the unlocked variant?

mattd860 said:
Can anyone verify if the unlocked version works the same as the Verizon version when on the Verizon network? Does volte and vvm work the same? Does the unlocked version have access to the same cell towers and lte bands? Or does Verizon cripple some features on the unlocked variant?
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On the old Pixel XL it worked the same on either model. I had an unlocked Pixel XL and a Verizon Pixel and they both worked the same with features. VoLTE and VVM both worked fine. The only difference was the unlocked model showed as "other" Pixel device with a generic picture in my Verizon account and the Verizon pixel showed as "Verizon Pixel" with an actual picture of the phone.
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greencat2 said:
Thanks for the post. I made the mistake of ordering the Verizon version. It does say this in the description on the order confirmation. Reordered and delivery date was reduced to October 27 from Nov 20.
(64 GB, Just Black, Verizon SIM-enabled
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Thanks for confirming. I think I'm ok then since it looks like the Verizon version actually states it in the order status.

sabbotage said:
On the old Pixel XL it worked the same on either model. I had an unlocked Pixel XL and a Verizon Pixel and they both worked the same with features. VoLTE and VVM both worked fine. The only difference was the unlocked model showed as "other" Pixel device with a generic picture in my Verizon account and the Verizon pixel showed as "Verizon Pixel" with an actual picture of the phone.
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Thanks for confirming. I think I'm ok then since it looks like the Verizon version actually states it in the order status.
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Would this also apply if you order the Pixel 2 XL from Verizon directly?

This is happening exactly as I predicted. People are being duped into buying the Verizon pixel 2 from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can be unlocked because they purchased from the Google store instead of the Verizon store.

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This is happening exactly as I predicted. People are being duped into buying the Verizon pixel 2 from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can be unlocked because they purchased from the Google store instead of the Verizon store.
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I can get the Verizon version directly from them through my work for $350, that is why I was wondering.

Can someone who ordered the Verizon Pixel show a snippet of the confirmation page?

If VZW version is the same as the unlocked one, and Google is simply throwing in the SIM card, insert the VZW SIM card after turn on the phone and unlock the bootloader.

Google Customer service confirmed to me on the phone that bootloader for Verizon version is locked but should get OS and security patch updates directly from Google if bought from Google Store. He wasn't sure about OS updates if phone is bought from Verizon.

nomifm said:
Google Customer service confirmed to me on the phone that bootloader for Verizon version is locked but should get OS and security patch updates directly from Google if bought from Google Store. He wasn't sure about OS updates if phone is bought from Verizon.
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Well last year was the Pixel different when ordering directly from Verizon with updates?
The boot loader unlocked really is not necessary in my case because I would be happy just to be on stock Android with regular updates.

Will the carrier unlocked version work on verizon and is the bootloader unlocked?

I'm currently on the S7 Edge from Samsung on the Verizon network. I'm looking to purchase the Pixel XL 2 to use on the Verizon network. I plan on purchasing from the Google store and I was wondering which version of the phone should I purchase? I plan on rooting and loading a custom rom on the phone. Should I purchase the carrier unlocked version? Will the bootloader be unlocked and will the carrier unlocked version work with Verizon? I dont want to purchase the wrong phone and not have it work on Verizon. Seems like a stupid question and I apologize in advance. Will the Verizon only version from the Google Store have an unlocked bootloader?
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matrix311 said:
I'm currently on the S7 Edge from Samsung on the Verizon network. I'm looking to purchase the Pixel XL 2 to use on the Verizon network. I plan on purchasing from the Google store and I was wondering which version of the phone should I purchase? I plan on rooting and loading a custom rom on the phone. Should I purchase the carrier unlocked version? Will the bootloader be unlocked and will the carrier unlocked version work with Verizon? I dont want to purchase the wrong phone and not have it work on Verizon. Seems like a stupid question and I apologize in advance. Will the Verizon only version from the Google Store have an unlocked bootloader?
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I actually called Google and they said that the unlocked version will work on Verizon once you enter the sim...so I cancelled my original order of the Verizon version and orederd the unlocked.

all this discussion is right HERE

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all this discussion is right HERE
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Thanks
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What is the latest OS build?

I've seen a few people say they got a system update after getting the phone. I have not seen one. Do I have what everyone else has?

Most likely those who bought unlocked version and activated on VZW.
VZW version is 012. All others are 010.

Here's the link to the full image. The last 3 digit only indicates which carries goes with. 010 is all other carriers, 011 is Telstra. There are 2 012, one for Rogers/Fido and one for Verizon.

mngdew said:
Most likely those who bought unlocked version and activated on VZW.
VZW version is 012. All others are 010.
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I bought unlocked from Google store and activated on vzw..didnt get no updates

Anyone has gotten the 8.1 ota update with Verizon?

I've been checking it since yesterday. No luck so far

No for me I'm still on DP2 still nothing

My Pixel 2 XL isn't a Verizon one, but the Pixel 2 phones we just got in for work did get 8.1 today.

Still no OTA over dp2 here either... VZW

Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.

I'm on Verizon and still haven't received the update yet.

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Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.
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For various valid reasons, that's not always an option or a preference for some people.

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Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.
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I don't think so. I tried it and it kept failing. Looking at the list of OTAs there are separate 8.0 files for Verizon so I think we need to wait.

Just because they were separate one month, doesn't mean that will be the case the next month. The separate builds might come together into a unified build and then split again the month after.
In the case of the December build, there is one build for all carriers. Verizon's support page has the same build number listed as what's on the Google OTA page. https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/google-pixel-2-xl-update/

Yes and no
I have not, interestingly enough, my wife got it yesterday morning. We have the same exact phone, through Verizon, Pixel 2 XL 128GB. I even try to update manually (through System Update), but I keep getting the same response, "Your system is up to date, Android Version: 8.0.0, Security patch level: November 5, 2017"

Still waiting here. I get message that I'm up to date when using system update, patched to Nov 7th.
Verizon is my carrier, but I bought the non-Verizon 128GB

I'm on DP2 and got my 8.1 final last night. Unlocked from Google on Verizon.
Also, if you bought your phone from Verizon, you CAN sideload the OTA. There were people on here with Verizon bought phones that sideloaded the non-Verizon OTA for the November security update. Plus, some Verizon users have gotten the update. I'm *thinking* Google just released one version this time.

I received it yesterday late afternoon. 64GB version bought from Verizon.

Just got it this morning, beta program, Pixel 2 XL 128GB Verizon.

still nothing for me... unlocked google store version on vzw network

What are the noteworthy upgrades that come with 8.1?
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fixxxer0 said:
still nothing for me... unlocked google store version on vzw network
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Received update yesterday. I was running DP2, unlocked Google Store version on Vzw network.

I received mine last night.
64GB purchased from Verizon.
Haven't had a chance to test the Bluetooth issues I've been having with my Gear S3 Frontier and my vehicle to see if they have been resolved.
Noticed that once in a while my screen will flash white when I grab it while the Always On display is active(4 times in the past 24 hours). Didn't have that behavior with 8.0.

NDIrish10 said:
I have not, interestingly enough, my wife got it yesterday morning. We have the same exact phone, through Verizon, Pixel 2 XL 128GB. I even try to update manually (through System Update), but I keep getting the same response, "Your system is up to date, Android Version: 8.0.0, Security patch level: November 5, 2017"
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Considering it's through Verizon I'm surprised your wife got it. Does Verizon now actually allow Google to be in control of the updates instead of Verizon having to approve it?

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Considering it's through Verizon I'm surprised your wife got it. Does Verizon now actually allow Google to be in control of the updates instead of Verizon having to approve it?
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You got me on that one...and I am still waiting on the update. Just to clarify, got them at Best Buy (each about a month apart), Verizon is my carrier. Then I come to read that some people had ordered the phones, through Verizon last week, received the phone on Monday, and got the update Wednesday...oh well.