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I got my Tilt 2 March of this year. While it's been fun, I notice less and less support for it everywhere. We've had some good times together, but it' can't be helped that it's time to switch over to an android phone. It's in really good condition and I was thinking about putting it on ebay. Can I charge at least $200 for this thing? I don't want to get a new phone until I can unload this one somehow. Yes it does seem like a waste, but it's rapidly becoming the phone not to have IMO. I've been rocking the Energy Rom since I've had it but the lack of apps and other goodies that the newer phones have are killing it right now. So that's why I think it's time for an upgrade.
This was my first smartphone. I upgraded from a motorola razor that I had for 3 years. I think that the next phone I get will be the last phone that I'll need. It just seems like the Tilt 2 didn't last as long as I thought it would.
how is the condition? if in mint condition 200 is easy on ebay
It's definitely mint. Never been dropped or anything like that. I'm just wondering if it'll be worth anything to the general public seeing as how there are bigger and better phones out there.
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It's definitely mint. Never been dropped or anything like that. I'm just wondering if it'll be worth anything to the general public seeing as how there are bigger and better phones out there.
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its easily possible if its in mint condition and comes with accessories and all
It's not worth anything. Send it to me for proper disposal.
Seriously, I've only had mine since June, but I love it. Not my first Smartphone as I replaced an LG Incite with it and have been using a WinMo PDA since 2003. I have yet to not find an app for the things I do with a phone and for just entertainment. Is it perfect? Of course not, but is any phone? I don't think so. I have friends with iPhones who marvel at some of the tings my Tilt 2 does and I have friends with Android phones who are jealous of some of the features their phones are missing. If it isn't doing what you need it to do, then by all mean upgrade, but ditching a prefectly good, working phone just because you think the grass is greener on the other side is foolish. You might get $200 on eBay (I paid $250 for mine in June and it was NIB), but with Verizon getting iPhones in Jan and Windows Phone 7 due in December you better hurry as prices will be falling real soon.
Well, it was a nice device, in concept. But, after 5 replacements for various defects, I'm done. I ordered the Samsung S7. Never owned a Samsung before, but I have to assume the support is better than the new Lenovo owned Motorola. I've been a loyal Moto customer since the OG Droid in 2010. Plus, these phones are too big. I'm not a huge guy, so a screen that is hard to hold, and fit in my pocket is a non starter. Hopefully, the battery is decent on the S7, and the phone reception is good. Otherwise, I can live without some of the great Moto software features, as nifty as they are. Software isn't much use when the screen is defective, or people can't hear me talking.
I must admit when I saw the title, I thought you were gonna leave because of the lack of MM update. Sorry to hear you've had so many problems with this phone, I hope the S7 brings you good luck.
You will hate how locked down the s7 is. Should of went 6p. I sold my turbo 2 for a 6p and love it. I had 2 turbo 2's never had an issues but the battery life on my 6p is about the same and I get USB type c unlocked and a fingerprint reader so this is more of what I wanted.
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Well, it was a nice device, in concept. But, after 5 replacements for various defects, I'm done. I ordered the Samsung S7. [...]
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I had the S5 and I really miss it. I thought I would like the Turbo 2 but it hasn't lived up to any of the promises so far, except I haven't tested the toughness of the screen. My replacement Turbo 2 came in today and I'll get it setup tonight. If it fails me, I'll get the S7 Edge because of the larger battery than the regular S7.
I've only had this phone for 2 months and it's developed hardware problems. I never had a hardware problem with the S5, just some stupid lack of updates from Samsung AND Verizon. I was lured by Motorola's false advertising of 3 days of battery life. I can't get 1 day of battery life if I actually use the phone. If I leave it face down and don't touch it, I could probably get 3 days. Face up, the stupid motion sensor (that I haven't figured out how to turn off) wakes up the screen all the damn time. The battery lasts 1 day, less than a day or just over a day and a half in my experience over the last 2 months. A day and a half was with VERY minimal phone usage.
I wish you the best with the S7 and I hope it's far better than this POS.
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Face up, the stupid motion sensor (that I haven't figured out how to turn off) wakes up the screen all the damn time. T
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Start moto app, tap right top corner, actions, first option on the list...
I don't believe Verizon ever said 3 days of battery. What I saw was up to 48 hours with mixed usage.
I average almost 20 hours and 5.5 OST.
Much better than the M8 I had before it.
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I'm not a huge guy.
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I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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Cute. How old are you? I'm a grown man with a family and a job.
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Cute. How old are you? I'm a grown man with a family and a job.
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me too.....boss......relax
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I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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Sadly we don't have girls (or they're really rare) here to confirm the size really matters
The 6P is a huge phone and ugly as sin. Great for updates, but if you aren't a front speaker aficionado (which I'm not) then it is just ugly and wasted space.
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I've had my Verizon turbo 2 since about 2 weeks after release and have had 0 hardware problems and haven't replaced it once. You're either really clumsy or really unlucky. People don't know how to take care of their phone and I'm assuming you're one of those people, considering you've replaced it 5 times. As far as the battery life I'm a heavy user and push 24 hrs before I'm out of battery. Learn how to train it and uninstall stuff that eats up the battery. I see so many people leave like 100 different apps open in the task manager (the built in one of course) and it kills me. They wonder why their phone is so slow or why it's always dead so quick and their too ****ing lazy to click a button and kill tasks. Anyways I'm sure you don't have the ignorance of people like that otherwise you wouldn't be browsing and posting on XDA. The only reason I would see me moving on from this phone is for root and BL unlock. I love my Roms and kernels. When I was still in school I had a gs3 that I had a new ROM on every day I came to school lol. I miss that **** but I just don't wanna go back to Samsung's mediocre feeling phones, just not a trade-off I'm willing to make. But if that's what you want, all power to you man and gl.
Believe it or not, people have been unlucky and have had hardware issues (green line issues and power button issues to name a few), consider yourself lucky.
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Believe it or not, people have been unlucky and have had hardware issues (green line issues and power button issues to name a few), consider yourself lucky.
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I can attest to this, my first turbo 2 had a green line the first time I turned the phone on 2 days after release, fortunately I hadn't walked out the door yet so they swapped it out immediately. as for the power button issue, surprisingly making a seal with your mouth and blowing hard seems to dislodge whatever dust might be getting stuck and fixes the issue (found this solution online, it has worked like a charm)
This is truly unbelievable, I paid off my DT2 600.00 that I got in October. Nothing wrong with it, excellent shape. I pre ordered the s7 edge and was going to trade it in and knock down the price a little on my new one. ISYN, they only offered me 36.53 for it! I thought was a mistake so I asked several times. Looks like I will keep this one as a backup.
They always say NOT to use task killers
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just for the recordd, i think the hardware issues probably have more to do with how verizon handles. stores and ships devices cuz its nvr seemed to matter what kind of phone ive had ive always had 3-6 warranty exchanges, and we all know those dnt come brand new in the box, usually actually someone elses defect return. there arnt 10000 dt2 out there that are defective, there are 1000 and vzw has sent them to 10 people each :/
Unfortunately, the only way to have a brand new phone is to be first in line opening morning release day. And even then, that you don't receive a phone that has already been tested/used by a Verizon employee and repackaged. Fortunately, knock on wood, I have my original purchased opening morning.
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I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with your phone sir. I've had nothing but awesomeness with mine. I will admit I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of dev support for the DT2. I would love to learn how to Dev for this, but I'm way too busy with life. I left Samsung bc I got tired of the VERY SLOW AND LAGGING OS. I would've gone the Nexus route, but I've really been impressed with Lenovarola lately. I know some of you aren't but I'm having good luck.
Anyway best of luck to you on your Samsung!
Okay, had the T2 since 3 days after launch. The Green Line appeared about two months ago, got a replacement. The mic would not work unless on speakerphone. Got a replacement and now the phone all too often heats up, and I get instant battery drain. When this happens, I lose about 30% of the charge in 20 minutes... Plus, little tiny scratches on the phone screen. I have never had a screen saver on any phone, and never had a problem...
So whats your initial thoughts? Now that you have it in hand.
I've got to wait till the 2nd September boooooooo
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So far so good. Great improvement over my iPhone 6 Plus. Iris scanner works flawlessly for me and I have glasses. Overall I'm in love. Just sensuous using it as my case and screen protector won't be here until tomorrow. I'm on AT&T btw.
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So far so good. Great improvement over my iPhone 6 Plus. Iris scanner spells flawlessly for me and I have glasses. Overall I'm in love. Just sensuous using it as my case and screen protector won't be here until tomorrow. I'm on AT&T btw.
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I'm on sprint so hopefully tomorrow.
Who did you order from, I ordered from Samsung, and it seems I won't be receiving mines anytime soon.
The phone is absolutely gorgeous! I came from the iphone 6s+, the fit and finish is phenomenal. My case and screen protectors will be here tonight from Amazon Prime (same day delivery totally worth it), the only thing I dislike now about the samsung phones would be the "ok google" is not longer available for always on, and yes I know how to set it up I wish Samsung would have kept that feature like "Hey Siri" on the iphone 6s+.
It is going to take some getting used to as I have been away from Android for about 8 months rocking my iphone, but I have always tried out the new Samsung phones S6 edge plus S7 edge plus but I have always returned them and went back to the iphone so we will see with this phone if I keep it past the 14 days , but so far so good!!!
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The phone is absolutely gorgeous! I came from the iphone 6s+, the fit and finish is phenomenal. My case and screen protectors will be here tonight from Amazon Prime (same day delivery totally worth it), the only thing I dislike now about the samsung phones would be the "ok google" is not longer available for always on, and yes I know how to set it up I wish Samsung would have kept that feature like "Hey Siri" on the iphone 6s+.
It is going to take some getting used to as I have been away from Android for about 8 months rocking my iphone, but I have always tried out the new Samsung phones S6 edge plus S7 edge plus but I have always returned them and went back to the iphone so we will see with this phone if I keep it past the 14 days , but so far so good!!!
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This exactly. Had the 6S and then went to an SE haha. When the Note arrives, it'll be twice the size. I've promised myself to at least keep the Note until the release of the iPhone 8, as it's supposed to be edge to edge display and ultra HD.. We'll see
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This exactly. Had the 6S and then went to an SE haha. When the Note arrives, it'll be twice the size. I've promised myself to at least keep the Note until the release of the iPhone 8, as it's supposed to be edge to edge display and ultra HD.. We'll see
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LOL at least I am not by myself when it comes to trying out the latest and greatest! Thats so funny what you said about the iPhone8 .....I said the exact same thing LOL!!!!
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So whats your initial thoughts? Now that you have it in hand.
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Indescribable upgrade from my S4 lol
Coming from an iPhone 6+, I'm very happy with it
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So far so good. Great improvement over my iPhone 6 Plus. Iris scanner works flawlessly for me and I have glasses. Overall I'm in love. Just sensuous using it as my case and screen protector won't be here until tomorrow. I'm on AT&T btw.
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Lmao I wouldn't even pick it up until I get a case and screen protector on it. I would just let it sit in the box and carry it around like that.
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Lmao I wouldn't even pick it up until I get a case and screen protector on it. I would just let it sit in the box and carry it around like that.
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Haha I'm actually using it without a case but i left the stock "protector" on it. I am still waiting for the otterbox defender to be released so i don't have any plans on buying a case soon, i am temporarily using my mumu PS Vita pouch as a "case" to keep it in when I'm not using it as it has a very food material inside the prevents the device from getting scratched
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Haha I'm actually using it without a case but i left the stock "protector" on it. I am still waiting for the otterbox defender to be released so i don't have any plans on buying a case soon, i am temporarily using my mumu PS Vita pouch as a "case" to keep it in when I'm not using it as it has a very food material inside the prevents the device from getting scratched
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Same here. Well the front film anyway. In so tempted to remove it but I'm getting my screen protector in about 12 hours.
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Same here. Well the front film anyway. In so tempted to remove it but I'm getting my screen protector in about 12 hours.
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That's awesome, i will go to the mall tomorrow to get a screen protector. Hopefully there will be some available locally (Philippines). At first i wss fixed on getting a TGSP for my note7 but after reading a lot of things about TGSP on "edge phones" i think I'll stick with the "plastic" ones for now.
Hopefully the defender will be released soon, i am honestly not that comfrotable using the phone without any protection as from the videos on YouTube, it can get scratched easily.
Actually pretty jealous of you all. I had mine preordered but accidentally hit the cancel button instead of save one day and had to start over. I was 55th yesterday, and 54th today/tonight, guessing I won't be getting it anytime soon haha.
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That sucks, that happend to me once before. So i know the feeling haha
Coming from an HTC M9, love it.. I thought it was only going to be a small upgrade but it's a large step..
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Actually pretty jealous of you all. I had mine preordered but accidentally hit the cancel button instead of save one day and had to start over. I was 55th yesterday, and 54th today/tonight, guessing I won't be getting it anytime soon haha.
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Don't feel too bad for yourself lol. You could be in my position:
I ordered the Black Onyx 2 minutes after midnight with a Sprint invite code that was given to me by Sprint. Was supposed to get the phone over a week ago. But they screwed up my order. Instead of Black Onyx they are sending me the Titanium... Which I dont want. They refused to cancel my order or to even change the order to the proper one. Stating that they were 'still trying to find my device in the warehouse'... I'm sitting here like "well good, then you can tell them to STOP trying to find it" but they wouldn't. Then when I was told it would ship by a specific day, it didn't. I paid an extra 50 dollars for next day shipping as well, but guess what? It JUST shipped yesterday at 8pm! And wont be here until tomorrow while I'm at work. So I basically paid 50 bucks to have my phone shipped the same day as what it would have been with free shipping... Ontop of that, Sprint put a restriction on my package! So I can't have UPS hold the package at their sorting facility for me to just come pick up like I always have to do. My 'UPS Driver' is cruel and won't take the time to go down my drive way to deliver packages. Sure the drive way is around a quarter mile long, but his excuse every time is "I can't find the house"... When the house is two stores, the ONLY two story house in the area, and can be seen over the tops of the trees from the road... But nope, he just won't come down the drive way to deliver. So since I have that restriction, I can't pick up my package like I normally have to do. So, I now have to call off from work so I can sit at the end of the drive way to wait for the UPS guy to show up... Then I have to take the phone into a Sprint Store to have them exchange it for the Black Onyx one... IF they even have it in stock... Because apparently the stores haven't even gotten their devices in yet. I talked to them yesterday when I tried to see if they could just hand over the proper phone and then I'd drop off my current phone and the incorrect Note 7 back to them. They said they would, but they don't have any devices in the store. So I really need to hope and pray they have a Black Onyx version that hasn't been purchased yet...
Getting this phone has been the worst experience of my life in regards to trying to buy a smartphone... My Note 5 was a breeze, and my S4 was as well. I just walked into the store 4 days before launch and was like "hey, I wanna buy the S4" and the sales guy walked outa the stock room with an S4 and sold it to me. I pre-ordered the Note 5 within minutes of them opening up pre-orders, and got the phone 3 days later, weeks before you could even buy them in a store. And now, they ask me if I want this phone weeks early, and I take them up on the offer, and presto... worst experience ever.
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Don't feel too bad for yourself lol. You could be in my position:
I ordered the Black Onyx 2 minutes after midnight with a Sprint invite code that was given to me by Sprint. Was supposed to get the phone over a week ago. But they screwed up my order. Instead of Black Onyx they are sending me the Titanium... Which I dont want. They refused to cancel my order or to even change the order to the proper one. Stating that they were 'still trying to find my device in the warehouse'... I'm sitting here like "well good, then you can tell them to STOP trying to find it" but they wouldn't. Then when I was told it would ship by a specific day, it didn't. I paid an extra 50 dollars for next day shipping as well, but guess what? It JUST shipped yesterday at 8pm! And wont be here until tomorrow while I'm at work. So I basically paid 50 bucks to have my phone shipped the same day as what it would have been with free shipping... Ontop of that, Sprint put a restriction on my package! So I can't have UPS hold the package at their sorting facility for me to just come pick up like I always have to do. My 'UPS Driver' is cruel and won't take the time to go down my drive way to deliver packages. Sure the drive way is around a quarter mile long, but his excuse every time is "I can't find the house"... When the house is two stores, the ONLY two story house in the area, and can be seen over the tops of the trees from the road... But nope, he just won't come down the drive way to deliver. So since I have that restriction, I can't pick up my package like I normally have to do. So, I now have to call off from work so I can sit at the end of the drive way to wait for the UPS guy to show up... Then I have to take the phone into a Sprint Store to have them exchange it for the Black Onyx one... IF they even have it in stock... Because apparently the stores haven't even gotten their devices in yet. I talked to them yesterday when I tried to see if they could just hand over the proper phone and then I'd drop off my current phone and the incorrect Note 7 back to them. They said they would, but they don't have any devices in the store. So I really need to hope and pray they have a Black Onyx version that hasn't been purchased yet...
Getting this phone has been the worst experience of my life in regards to trying to buy a smartphone... My Note 5 was a breeze, and my S4 was as well. I just walked into the store 4 days before launch and was like "hey, I wanna buy the S4" and the sales guy walked outa the stock room with an S4 and sold it to me. I pre-ordered the Note 5 within minutes of them opening up pre-orders, and got the phone 3 days later, weeks before you could even buy them in a store. And now, they ask me if I want this phone weeks early, and I take them up on the offer, and presto... worst experience ever.
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Holy hell that's terrible. Hopefully it all gets sorted out.
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Holy hell that's terrible. Hopefully it all gets sorted out.
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Hoping as well haha. I wasn't even planning on getting the phone until they said they'd give it early and at a discount. But guess that was just too good to be true D=
Saw the N7 for the first time in a CPW shop recently and I was surprised by how fragile it seems, the sort of thing you might keep in a little pouch for safekeeping. I've used a N4 for two years now. Take it everywhere with me, using Osmand GPS maps, the camera and pen most of all. Have it in an ordinary Labato fold-stand. By comparison, the N7 looks more like a pretty toy. Can't imagine it roughing it on land or sea.
I'm not against the N7. I ordered one mid-Aug but cancelled when delivery of non-Sim version was held back till end Sept. The bursting battery saga means I probably wouldn't get one until mid/late Oct. I know now that there are some dev restrictions that might not be overcome; I believe it is still impossible for apps to write to Sd cards with Marshmallow. The fact that the battery is locked away doesn't help either: pulling the batt is the best way out of a soft brick.
It's frustrating. Had looked forward to the N7 as a real practical advance on the N4, but I feel now that it was a vanity project that went badly wrong for Sammy. What's the point of a glass back, for goodness sake? Let's hope they have better sense when it comes to designing the N8.
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Had looked forward to the N7 as a real practical advance on the N4, but I feel now that it was a vanity project that went badly wrong for Sammy. What's the point of a glass back, for goodness sake? Let's hope they have better sense when it comes to designing the N8.
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The glass back is hardly new to the Note 7. It's also on the S6, S6 Edge, S6 Edge+, Note 5, S7, and S7 Edge.
Well, what drove them to this is all the complaints of Plastic. Plastiky feel...yucky plastic...etc...etc...
I drove off with my note 7 on the back of my truck. Later found it face down on asphalt. Has one tiny scratch on the screen. I'm running a ringke slim case with no screen protector. I do have some Samsung screen protectors for when tje new phones come out.
To answer the question in the title "Has Note 7 lost some of its glam?": No.
If anything it has become more desirable in my eyes since the iPhone 7 is such a lack luster update. Best looking smartphone available by a large margin.
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Saw the N7 for the first time in a CPW shop recently and I was surprised by how fragile it seems, the sort of thing you might keep in a little pouch for safekeeping. I've used a N4 for two years now. Take it everywhere with me, using Osmand GPS maps, the camera and pen most of all. Have it in an ordinary Labato fold-stand. By comparison, the N7 looks more like a pretty toy. Can't imagine it roughing it on land or sea.
I'm not against the N7. I ordered one mid-Aug but cancelled when delivery of non-Sim version was held back till end Sept. The bursting battery saga means I probably wouldn't get one until mid/late Oct. I know now that there are some dev restrictions that might not be overcome; I believe it is still impossible for apps to write to Sd cards with Marshmallow. The fact that the battery is locked away doesn't help either: pulling the batt is the best way out of a soft brick.
It's frustrating. Had looked forward to the N7 as a real practical advance on the N4, but I feel now that it was a vanity project that went badly wrong for Sammy. What's the point of a glass back, for goodness sake? Let's hope they have better sense when it comes to designing the N8.
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Ironically you sound like my brother from another mother. I had pre-ordered the Note 7 from CPW only to cancel and am waiting on the new stock. Current owner of a 2 year young Note 4.
Walked into CPW and picked up a display model of the Note 7 for the 1st time yesterday. She's a beaut! No scratches although there were some on the S7. (Off topic, but wasn't even aware of the S6 Edge Plus, a bigger phone!)
What really has me suspicious is this locked in battery. OK, the phone is waterproof,but the safest way in emergencies such as soft brick (bootloop, recovery hard freeze) is the ability to pull the battery out.
I am still eagerly awaiting the Note 7, but some of the rumors for next year's phones are mind blowing! S8 with bendable screen, 4k, etc, etc. And not being an iPhone user ever, but theirs is the 10th anniversary edition all glass casing. Maybe it is wise to be patient here...
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If anything it has become more desirable in my eyes since the iPhone 7 is such a lack luster update. Best looking smartphone available by a large margin.
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Wait for next year's 10th anniversary of iPhone, apparently this is when we will really see them let loose on the hype. And no I am not an iPhone fanatic, been a Samsung Galaxy owner for the past 6 years, but wait and see…
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Ironically you sound like my brother from another mother. I had pre-ordered the Note 7 from CPW only to cancel and am waiting on the new stock. Current owner of a 2 year young Note 4.
Walked into CPW and picked up a display model of the Note 7 for the 1st time yesterday. She's a beaut! No scratches although there were some on the S7. (Off topic, but wasn't even aware of the S6 Edge Plus, a bigger phone!)
What really has me suspicious is this locked in battery. OK, the phone is waterproof,but the safest way in emergencies such as soft brick (bootloop, recovery hard freeze) is the ability to pull the battery out.
I am still eagerly awaiting the Note 7, but some of the rumors for next year's phones are mind blowing! S8 with bendable screen, 4k, etc, etc. And not being an iPhone user ever, but theirs is the 10th anniversary edition all glass casing. Maybe it is wise to be patient here...
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Wait for next year's 10th anniversary of iPhone, apparently this is when we will really see them let loose on the hype. And no I am not an iPhone fanatic, been a Samsung Galaxy owner for the past 6 years, but wait and see…
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Pfft you must be an amateur, everyone knows the real iPhone to watch is the 15th anniversary model.
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Pfft you must be an amateur, everyone knows the real iPhone to watch is the 15th anniversary model.
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Nah. 50th Gold plated Swavorski encrusted Crystal version. I do hope I live to see it!
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Nah. 50th Gold plated Swavorski encrusted Crystal version. I do hope I live to see it!
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Steve Jobs would never have allowed that.
That's the problem with these iconic CEO 's passing away. Their new replacements have a name to make for themselves and with their ego there's no holding back.
By the way, as a Graphic Designer, I grew up on Apple Mac, but no see through the glitz and glamour. I'd rather run an affordable machine on Linux that fork out (bi-)yearly for something that's constantly purposely holding back on features that are used to sell the next year's upgrade model.
Personally, I find the SGN7 more appealing than ever. I look forward to be able to buy the phone as soon as it arrives to Colombia. I managed to buy an international version in the US that I returned unopened and got a full refund.
I placed a Pre-order with Samsung Colombia in late August, but a week ago they called me saying that my order was cancelled. They said that they were going to ship my gift (gear fit 2) at no cost to me and it would arrive by September 19th. At least I got a free watch. Well actually we got two because I had ordered a phone for my wife too.
It's heartbreaking what is happening to such a beautiful phone. What a shame.
I've been using it for about a week and it's great. The only issue with the appearance is finger prints but I literally couldn't care. The edge screen makes the phone for me, now whenever I use another phone, it feels cramped and the bezels look huge. The screen hasn't scratched at all by the way, it's just as durable as any another phone...
Also you said "Can't imagine it roughing it on land or sea.", well no? A phone is a mini computer, not a ball. Yes, it's considered a little fragile but as long as you use the phone as a phone, it's fine.
So to answer your question, yes it still has it's glam + it feels great to have something that looks unique and a phone that people ask you about.
I had ordered a G935F from a large US Retailer - it was supposed to be released in September and then this whole Battery thing happened. Today, I got an email from the Retailer saying the order had been cancelled and the reason given was that the Note 7 had been discontinued.
I have a feeling that this is the final word - Samsung will be annoucing that the Note 7 is discontinued and anyone that has one will be encouarged to return it for an exchange or a refund. (or course they could try to simply replace the existing notes that are out there with a replacement that has a new battery, but I don't think they will want to risk the Liability. If anything happens with a new NOTE 7 released after the problems the first one had, it would put Samsung out of business. Their best bet (and what I think has happened based on the email I got today) is that the Note 7 will be killed off and we will have to wait for the NOTE 8 (which would probably - hopefully - be released simultaneously with the S8 next year.
of course this is mostly conjecture founded on the wording of the email I received from that Retailer - too bad, I had really wanted to get a Note 7
It would make no sense to put out Note 8 along with S8...the sales will just divide among those 2. The question here is not if Note 7 will sell (it already lost the battle), the question is who else, appart from Samsung fans, will buy S8 and/or Note 8. And yes maybe they should discontinue Note 7...but they won't...it would mean they admit defeat (this year). They could though do something for the fans (discount or..something). Lets just wait until first numbers coming from Apple hit the media...I am hoping their increase in number of phones sold is under 20%...I wouldn't be able to stand the grin on my friends owning crapples
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Also you said "Can't imagine it roughing it on land or sea.", well no? A phone is a mini computer, not a ball. Yes, it's considered a little fragile but as long as you use the phone as a phone, it's fine.
So to answer your question, yes it still has it's glam + it feels great to have something that looks unique and a phone that people ask you about.
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Yes, I noticed that the N7 is often described as a phone. It's not; it's a tablet/phone. I'm not a phone person (keep it short!) so the Note4 is for me an outdoor device (hence my question re N7's - a phablet - glass back). And a really good one at that.
mocsab: you might well be right. Goodness knows what that will do for Sammy's rep. It would be a huge let down for so many people.
Samsung Galaxy Note 7
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I'm old, people my age don't consider phones glam, any phone. For me they're tools and the Note 7 is still the best tool on the shelf until the next thing comes. The price of course is supported by nothing more than the vanity of people who think some hardware in a glass/meta/ (insert alleged premium material) shell that they neither see nor touch in its cheap TPU case is somehow better than the exact same hardware wrapped in a plastic shell and then covered with a cheap TPU case. But whatever, being old I can afford the best, that would be the Note 7 in the phablet space. It was yesterday before batterygate, it will be tomorrow after batterygate. It appears right now it will remain so until the spring since the Nexus/Pixel looks to be a little weak this year.
I used my Note 7 for a couple weeks before it started running warm and stuttering. Up until that point it was nearly flawless, easily the best phone I've ever seen. I dropped it the first day (caseless of course) about 18" straight onto concrete and it didn't even get a scratch. I can't wait to get another one, as much as I liked my Note 4 I'm not particularly happy to be back on it. The 7 is just so much faster and more responsive.
I say nearly flawless because I don't like the non-removable battery. Also I'm not a huge fan of the edge screen, but the sharp angle they used really was an improvement on previous edge phones. I'd prefer if the bootloader wasn't locked, but my reasons for rooting and custom ROM's have really diminished as the phones get faster and more polished.
Have the Pixel 6 Pro here, noticed that when I open the camera sometimes it will just freeze up and reboot. Does this about 10 times a day. I tried reflashing the FULL OTA and Factory Images to no avail thinking it was software.
So after two hours last night of waiting to talk to customer service I tell them my issue and without hesitation she said "We will send you a new replacement phone." But it's gone be a minute and I said that's fine. I then ...and message her and go "Is it a refurbished phone a new one." She tells me they do not GIVE you a NEW phone even if it is DEFECTIVE they send you a REFURBISHED.
I told her absolutely NO thanks, in the kindest way possible, and asked if cancellation was an option, I explained I did NOT spend $1100 for a refurbished phone. Absolutely no way. She then goes on to tell me that she understands AND AGREES and that she will ask and get back to me in a few days if they can send me a NEW new one. I said if she has to jump through hoops it legit is olay to cancel it. I refuse to spend that much and have a frankenphone. You dig?
Buttt anywhooo, Just lettin y'all know...if your phone is bork, they gone sendja a refurb. You need to ASK for a new. Unless it's past the first 15 days or whatnot then you HAVE to get a refurb. But I can't live with that fact.
I would feel the same way. If using a credit card to buy a phone, some credit cards have rules which would give you options to get your money back as well, if it gets past the 15 days.
I'm really not surprised that they would do this, however. Just sucks every company would do the same thing.
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I would feel the same way. If using a credit card to buy a phone, some credit cards have rules which would give you options to get your money back as well, if it gets past the 15 days.
I'm really not surprised that they would do this, however. Just sucks every company would do the same thing.
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I'm not mad? It's just kinda like really? I had two phones in the past that I bought new from Motorola and Oneplus that sent me brand new replacements. And my oneplus I owned for two MONTHS. I have had my 6 pro for 11 days I believe? It's just kinda like WOW. Haha my girlfriend and I were like no... we're not mad, but just cancel it.
Out of curiosity, for the sake of science, do you mind posting the logcat output capturing a few of these camera freeze up and reboot occurrences? Thanks
I'm surprised they would even have any refurbs at this time. When I did multiple replacements for my 2XL in a 2-3 month period from launch I was always sent a brand new retail package. Considering the supply issue and how popular the phone is. I would imagine they probably don't have many if any refurbs in stock to send out for warranty.
Or going by factory seconds where some did not make it out due to quality assurance checks, some phones are just born "frankenphones" at the factory itself.
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I'm surprised they would even have any refurbs at this time. When I did multiple replacements for my 2XL in a 2-3 month period from launch I was always sent a brand new retail package. Considering the supply issue and how popular the phone is. I would imagine they probably don't have many if any refurbs in stock to send out for warranty.
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Could have been as simple as already returned phones (for any reason, not even necessarily anything wrong with the phone) that the package was already opened / phone already removed from the packaging, etc, and needing minimal re-certification.
I still wouldn't want such a "refurb" so soon after buying the phone new, but there are lots of reasons why they might have phones they consider refurb in stock.
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Could have been as simple as already returned phones (for any reason, not even necessarily anything wrong with the phone) that the package was already opened / phone already removed from the packaging, etc, and needing minimal re-certification.
I still wouldn't want such a "refurb" so soon after buying the phone new, but there are lots of reasons why they might have phones they consider refurb in stock.
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True, they do label those as "refurbs" as well. Would make sense they'd be mailing those out as they probably have little to no stock of brand new phones. I wouldn't care too much if I got someone's return as long as there's no cosmetic issues or mechanical issues on the device.
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
The issue is the uncertainly on the degree of cosmetic/mechanical issues, making it a strict no from me at the retail price.
Ideal solution would be a $200 rebate on a certified refurb unit or a full refund for the inconvenience, stress, mental angst
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Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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I wouldn't accept anything but new within the first 30 days. In your case they definitely should be giving you a brand new one. You probably got a crappy rep, I would try again with another one. Easier said than done with how nonexistent support has been since launch. Within the first 14 days they're supposed to give new devices as a replacement. Good luck man!
Depending on how much I love the product, I usually try to rule out user error first because no product is bug-free or perfect, else simply I return it since it is clearly not worth my time trying to beta test their product and buy a more reputable and reliable product.
In the Android world, Samsung has excellent brand loyalty for this reason and something Google should learn from if they wish to retain their customer base and build brand loyalty.
I mean no disrespect at all to any fans of Samsung - I loved my Galaxy S3 a long time ago. But the way Samsung's software doesn't work well for my usage, and how they make some things not work as well as they do on Pixels made my wife and I return to Pixels and sell our Note 10+ after only a year and a half - and I usually keep a phone for 3 years or at least until it's no longer updated.
The Note 10+ hardware was top-notch. Couldn't stand the software, though, and my P6P is already working much better for my wife and I than the Note 10+ was.
Low inventory could result in sending refurbished one's...
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Have the Pixel 6 Pro here, noticed that when I open the camera sometimes it will just freeze up and reboot. Does this about 10 times a day. I tried reflashing the FULL OTA and Factory Images to no avail thinking it was software.
So after two hours last night of waiting to talk to customer service I tell them my issue and without hesitation she said "We will send you a new replacement phone." But it's gone be a minute and I said that's fine. I then ...and message her and go "Is it a refurbished phone a new one." She tells me they do not GIVE you a NEW phone even if it is DEFECTIVE they send you a REFURBISHED.
I told her absolutely NO thanks, in the kindest way possible, and asked if cancellation was an option, I explained I did NOT spend $1100 for a refurbished phone. Absolutely no way. She then goes on to tell me that she understands AND AGREES and that she will ask and get back to me in a few days if they can send me a NEW new one. I said if she has to jump through hoops it legit is olay to cancel it. I refuse to spend that much and have a frankenphone. You dig?
Buttt anywhooo, Just lettin y'all know...if your phone is bork, they gone sendja a refurb. You need to ASK for a new. Unless it's past the first 15 days or whatnot then you HAVE to get a refurb. But I can't live with that fact.
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I received my P6 Pro 2 days before launch, had a couple bugs, talked with a Customer Rep and got a replacement shipped on the 29.10 - the (replacement) phone arrived in new and pristine condition; phone was brand new, the packaging was new, nothing refurbished there. Mind though, that I was (ofc) still in return window.
Maybe what you say is true after a while when there are phones that have been refurbished, but as far as I can understand, not at launch. Also, as mentioned, return window might be a deciding factor.
Glad to see great customer service on Google's part. I also like that they're opening Pixel exclusive stores.
Could you elaborate on the two bugs that made it a deal breaker for you to hold on to your very first unit?
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I received my P6 Pro 2 days before launch, had a couple bugs, talked with a Customer Rep and got a replacement shipped on the 29.10 - the phone arrived in new and pristine condition; phone was brand new, the packaging was new, nothing refurbished there. Mind though, that I was (ofc) still in return window.
Maybe what you say is true after a while when there are phones that have been refurbished, but as far as I can understand, not at launch.
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Glad to see great customer service on Google's part. I also like that they're opening Pixel exclusive stores.
Could you elaborate on the two bugs that made it a deal breaker for you to hold on to your very first unit?
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I had a couple minor quirks, but the dealbreakers for me were
a) random reboots (didn't bother me the first 1 1/2 days because they only happened in idle, but then the phone randomly rebooted whilst I used it to navigate, that was unacceptable)
b) heavy lens flicker, even with clean glass (random rays of light whenever in 70% of shot pictures against/ with the sun)
Since using the replacement device, I neither had random reboots nor any more heavy lens flicker. Its possible ofc that these were software and not hardware isses, but since I set up my P6 Pro replacement the same way that I set up the "original" p6 pro one (cable backup transfer from my previous phone), it's hard to find that out.
Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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Totally understand. It reminds me of my new iphone 5. I got it through the carrier by signing up. I take it home only got the camera to not work. I go back to the shop and they tell me Apple handles repairs and replacements. I'm fuming. So I immediately take the train to go to the Apple store. They tell me no appointment? no help. So I have to go home and try the next day. I ask the guy handing me the replacement if it's a new phone. He says it is. But as I'm riding the train back home I realize that in the language I asked him I was a little ambiguous with my phrasing and to this day I still wonder if it was a new phone.
Anyhow, it cost me over 20 dollars and 4 hours of my time because I was given a lemon. Thanks for letting me vent about something that was 9 years ago...
Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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Totally understand. It reminds me of my new iphone 5. I got it through the carrier by signing up. I take it home only got the camera to not work. I go back to the shop and they tell me Apple handles repairs and replacements. I'm fuming. So I immediately take the train to go to the Apple store. They tell me no appointment? no help. So I have to go home and try the next day. I ask the guy handing me the replacement of it's a new phone. He says it is. But as I'm riding the train back home I realize that in the language I asked him it was a little ambiguous with my phrasing.
Anyhow, it cost me over 20 dollars and 4 hours of my time because I was given a lemon. Thanks for letting me vent about something that was 9 years ago
Google has been doing this for years, this is nothing new.