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Should i buy the Mi6

https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/device-reviews-and-information/one-t3680127

You should.

You must

my experience was so far so gooodd.. you really really should.

Sorry. I've just bought the 1+5
It was a very hard decision but the 1+5 just won as it was available to get my hands on the beast today.
I went for the 8gb ram / 128gb storage

Honestly, I have it and it's decent but I wouldn't buy it again. The hardware is solid but the software is meh at best and with Xiaomi being terrible with the source code, we don't even have an official LOS build. I am actually considering selling mine and going back to OnePlus ( will miss the size and quick charge for sure)

Rattles said:
Honestly, I have it and it's decent but I wouldn't buy it again. The hardware is solid but the software is meh at best and with Xiaomi being terrible with the source code, we don't even have an official LOS build. I am actually considering selling mine and going back to OnePlus ( will miss the size and quick charge for sure)
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Well, they released the sources today.

mELIANTE said:
Well, they released the sources today.
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Lol, of course I saw that 10 minutes after I made my post. Better late than never

It was a close call for me too between the OP5 and the Mi 6. But 5.5" is too big for me, so I got the Mi 6 Ceramic (6 GB/128 GB) version. I'm still using my Nexus 5 because I'm in the "72 hours wait period to unlock the bootloader".
So far I'm very impressed with MIUI 8, though. All of the features I need from Lineage are there. I'm thinking of just rooting MIUI and if possible slimming it down a bit, but I might not go back to LOS.

pixel xl 2

Is it worth upgrading to a pixel xl 2 at this time of year? Is it better to hold off and get a new handset from another manufacturer like p20 pro from Huawei

Depends what you're looking for I guess: The latest, fastest hardware... or always running the latest software.
Personally I wanted a trouble-free phone (I'm not even rooting anymore) that will get Android updates very quickly. I don't care that much for the latest hardware as long as my phone is fast, and the Pixel 2 is blazing fast.. so yeah, the choice was obvious for me.
What are you looking for in a phone? The best hardware for 12 months, of the latest software for the 24-36 months to come? Both are valid choices really

Phazonclash said:
Depends what you're looking for I guess: The latest, fastest hardware... or always running the latest software.
Personally I wanted a trouble-free phone (I'm not even rooting anymore) that will get Android updates very quickly. I don't care that much for the latest hardware as long as my phone is fast, and the Pixel 2 is blazing fast.. so yeah, the choice was obvious for me.
What are you looking for in a phone? The best hardware for 12 months, of the latest software for the 24-36 months to come? Both are valid choices really
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I like the idea of pixel xl 2 but there are new phones getting released in a months time in Paris etc. I just don't want to regret getting the pixel xl 2 knowing it has display problem or should I hold off for the Huawei P20 pro. I don't want a Samsung S9 as it alwsys lags

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Is it worth upgrading to a pixel xl 2 at this time of year? Is it better to hold off and get a new handset from another manufacturer like p20 pro from Huawei
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If it were me, and it's not, and if you can, I would hold out until at least October. By then you'll have a good read on how the new phones are performing, and see what Google has to offer in the Pixel 3. I love my P2XL, having said that, I'm already looking forward to what the P3XL has to offer. And that's my 2 pennies worth ?

Badger50 said:
If it were me, and it's not, and if you can, I would hold out until at least October. By then you'll have a good read on how the new phones are performing, and see what Google has to offer in the Pixel 3. I love my P2XL, having said that, I'm already looking forward to what the P3XL has to offer. And that's my 2 pennies worth ?
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I'm hearing you but I'm due for an upgrade. I don't want to wait till October and make my decision based on that. I'm talking about a months time at the most. I know the Pixel XL 2 is one amazing device but coming from a flawless screen scares me that the pixel xl 2 might irritate me with lower quality screen.
I was expecting sony to release a new 4k device at MWC but that didn't happen as i was looking forward to that. On the other hand the P20 pro is around the corner. Seeing what the mate 10 pro achieved it might be worth getting the P20 pro with 3 cameras and OLED display. I will get the pixel in a heart beat but worried about screen as it is the most used part of the screen.

dieselhazza said:
I'm hearing you but I'm due for an upgrade. I don't want to wait till October and make my decision based on that. I'm talking about a months time at the most. I know the Pixel XL 2 is one amazing device but coming from a flawless screen scares me that the pixel xl 2 might irritate me with lower quality screen.
I was expecting sony to release a new 4k device at MWC but that didn't happen as i was looking forward to that. On the other hand the P20 pro is around the corner. Seeing what the mate 10 pro achieved it might be worth getting the P20 pro with 3 cameras and OLED display. I will get the pixel in a heart beat but worried about screen as it is the most used part of the screen.
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If buying from google they have a two week return if your not happy. No risk to test it.

jrbxx7 said:
If buying from google they have a two week return if your not happy. No risk to test it.
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I'm not getting it directly through google. Its through a carrier. So I can't test the device.

Oneplus 5T or wait for next version?

Should I wait until the next version of the Oneplus phone comes out to purchase? Seems like it might be around the corner. I'm really impressed with the specs and features of the 5T. I'm just ready to dump this dang pixel xl. Are all you developers pleased enough with the 5T to upgrade to the next version when it becomes available?

OnePlus seems to iterate their phones every 6 months instead of the typical year. This means that a 'new model' is always just right around the corner. It also seems like (to me anyways) that this drives DEVs away as who wants to develop for a phone that will only be produced for 6 months (or less with the OnePlus 5).

It really depends. I'm happy that LineageOS 15.1 and Franco kernel is out for the OnePlus 5T and I wouldn't want to wait weeks for them to come out for the OnePlus 6. Moreover, as the OnePlus 6 appears to use a notch, I'm happy with my OnePlus 5T for now. It comes down to personal preferences but I wouldn't always bet on the newest and latest devices. It could even be that the OnePlus 6 will be much more expensive or lack a feature you want.
If you do tend to get the OnePlus 6 I would advise you to not buy it instantly. I was happy not to have bought the OnePlus 5 after the jelly scrolling issues (even though I would never have bought it due to the fingerprint sensor being at the front) and I'm happy I got the OnePlus 5T with no issues so far apart from the Widevine L3 problem which I do not care about too much.

This comes for every phone on the market. Should I buy it or wait for next gen.
Do you want it, buy it. Can you wait, wait. Next will always be better I guess.

OP6's screen might be 19/9 or more screen ratio with notch.
Snap 845 for sure.
Good to wait.:fingers-crossed:

I dislike the "notch mentality" and personally probably only use 25% of the power of the Q835. 5t is a solid phone that will last me hopefully the next 2-3 years. If the camera gets a big overhaul I might consider an earlier upgrade but looking at OP's track record I'd doubt it.

I ordered a pair of 5T's. These pixel xl's had to go. Thanks for everyone's input.

dcillusions77 said:
I ordered a pair of 5T's. These pixel xl's had to go. Thanks for everyone's input.
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Just got mine and it's awesome. Great battery life and buttery smooth.. Enjoy

qbanlinxx said:
Just got mine and it's awesome. Great battery life and buttery smooth.. Enjoy
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Nice I get mine Tuesday. Cya google, and hello at&t

Question Is it worth to buy P6Pro in that point of time?

Hi,
I have P5 right now and it works fine, Is it worth to buy in that point of time P6Pro even though that in october suppose to come a new pixel? and also with the problem that he had?
Thanks

Hi @I7210I,
This seems like a Question thread (the default), rather than a General thread. You should change it back.
In answer to your question, I'd say if you find the Pixel 6 Pro cheaply enough, sure, buy it. Recently I saw news of sub-$300 Pixel 6 Pros on sale somewhere.
If you're going to pay full price or near full price (or monthly installments that total up to near full price), then I'd suggest just waiting.

Thank you,
The price I can get is 830 USD for the 256GB and 640 for the 128 GB

Personally, I would wait then, although I would fully expect to pay more than that for the Pixel 7 Pro. Since the Google Store is directly selling the SIM-unlocked (bootloader unlockable) 128 GB Pixel 6 Pro for $649 (at one point in the process it says $899, but the next step shows it back at $649), and you can get the 512 GB unlocked P6P for $849 direct from the Google Store, I would first determine what size you want. If 128 GB is enough for you, the $640 from your source isn't horrible, but if you need more storage than 128 GB, I think I would hold off until the Pixel 7 Pro even though you will definitely be paying more than $850 for any Pixel 7 Pro.
So I probably didn't make the decision any easier, but...
Also, I didn't stop using my Pixel 1 until a few months after it received its last update in December 2019 or so.

And the release date of the pixel 7 is right?
and about the p6, is the bugs are fixed with the updates?
thanks

I7210I said:
And the release date of the pixel 7 is right?
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I don't know what the release date of the Pixel 7 is. It is probably either next month or as you said, more likely October/late October. October 19, 2021 was when they had the first-day pre-orders for the Pixel 6. It was a nightmare. Their site couldn't handle the load, but eventually maybe five hours later I was able to pre-order. Got my wife's and my factory unlocked Pixel 6 Pro 512 GB models in late October.
I7210I said:
and about the p6, is the bugs are fixed with the updates?
thanks
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The only noticeable bugs I remember ever having were a slight problem with using gestures with third-party Launcher apps, but it didn't cause me a problem that often and was always recoverable. I know others have had other bugs but I was one of the lucky ones.
I haven't noticed the issue the last less than two days I've had 13 Stable installed but that isn't really long enough to tell if the issue is still around.
Personally, I think Android 13 is much smoother than Android 12, and when I reboot the phone, the home screen loads noticeably faster the first time I unlock it. I've been withholding full judgment one way or another on 13 because it takes time to observe all the overall differences objectively, and sometimes there is also a placebo effect with a new shiny Android version, but my general impression is that Android 13 compared to 12 is like Android 5.11 compared to 5. But honestly not as big a difference as the 5->5.11 changes - just reminiscent of that situation, although Android 5.x was when I was still using non-Google OEM phones.
You're welcome! Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

And we said nothing on the competitors (S22 ultra) in front of the pixel 6 pro...
So everything is relayed on rumors about the release dates...
The price sounds good , and you said you was lucky about the 6 pro so that's one thing that might be scary

I7210I said:
And we said nothing on the competitors (S22 ultra) in front of the pixel 6 pro...
So everything is relayed on rumors about the release dates...
The price sounds good , and you said you was lucky about the 6 pro so that's one thing that might be scary
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Well, from what I've seen in this section there were plenty of others who were lucky too. Any one of us can be lucky or unlucky with any phone brand or model.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Well, from what I've seen in this section there were plenty of others who were lucky too. Any one of us can be lucky or unlucky with any phone brand or model.
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agreed, it might catch you in any brand and device.
overall I think that for that price it's looks good, and who knows what will be the start (problems, prices) of the 7 pro, isn't it?
and to go the S22 ultra is something else

I7210I said:
Hi,
I have P5 right now and it works fine, Is it worth to buy in that point of time P6Pro even though that in october suppose to come a new pixel? and also with the problem that he had?
Thanks
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i has hear several rumors about an early realease by september, with official ETA for early october... you could wait a little bit, however the price for the P6/P6P will surely down with the new ones on market, si it could be a good time for to buy at reasonable price.

I'd wait. The Pixel 7 looks like it could solve a lot of issues and shortcomings with the Pixel 6.
The Pixel 6 is getting harder to find as Google apparently wants the inventory gone.
If you're in the US, you could get a Pixel 6 Pro for $0 down from T-Mobile on the JOD program and upgrade to a regular Pixel 7 for free (Pro probably $150-$300 down?) when it comes out.

So as far as I see, the p7 pro is behind the corner, I'm in Europe till 7 of September, I hope that I will have good news till than...
anyhow, looks like its better to wait than if I understand, also the thing with the inventory is right

General Nothing phone 2 is coming soon

Carl pei confirms and also listed on Flipkart Nothing phone 2 launched soon in this summer and comes with Snapdragon 8 series's processor

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Carl pei confirms and also listed on Flipkart Nothing phone 2 launched soon in this summer and comes with Snapdragon 8 series's processor
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Yes, the most real and important question: Will it be unlockable and support custom recoveries?

In future may be

I just want one single thing: free EDL mode.

Any ideas on pricing and main differences? I'm not into the whole better quality camera thing.
Hopefully it will have features that can really set it apart from other phones in this price range.

i hope feel like OnePlus early days Flagship

Unlike OnePlus that's no longer offering unbrick tool for newer models, Nothing Phone 2 will likely be the only flagship phone fully moddable with Lineage OS and other firmwares, other than a few factory unlocked Motorolas.

satelliteseeker said:
Unlike OnePlus that's no longer offering unbrick tool for newer models, Nothing Phone 2 will likely be the only flagship phone fully moddable with Lineage OS and other firmwares, other than a few factory unlocked Motorolas.
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They do have an MSM tool for new devices, but it's just not free... Even for repair companies.
Bare in mind they never gave us the MSM tool it was always leaked.
Hopefully Nothing can offer us something similar where it's free for us to use even if it is a leak, the main thing we would need for ROMs is a complete source release, which they have done with their previous device so they should this time too I would have thought, there's a strong chance there will be ROMs for the 2
I also agree it's pretty much the only company left that may offer modders a phone worthwhile buying, pixel would be my other choice.
Fingers crossed Xmas comes early for us all.

varunsngh57 said:
Carl pei confirms and also listed on Flipkart Nothing phone 2 launched soon in this summer and comes with Snapdragon 8 series's processor
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Thats good news! Im soo glad they are developing something like a Flagship Killer with the Snapdragon 8 Series processors. Pixel 8 and Nothing Phone 2 would face a standoff battle with the iPhone 15 being a spectator, I can see that happening cause iPhone is almost never in the game (cause there are always people who go for them in spite of whats offered).

Expect US version will be $800 (12/512)

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Expect US version will be $800 (12/512)
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Is that confirmed?

Nothing Phone (2): Flagship pricing leaks with 512 GB storage option for Phone (1) successor
According to a reliable leaker, Nothing has priced its second-generation smartphone for 55% more than last year's Phone (1). Equipped with a Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1 chipset and sporting a familiar design, the Nothing Phone (2) is rumoured to launch with 256 GB and 512 GB of storage variants.
www.notebookcheck.net
Estimated
850 Euro

dladz said:
They do have an MSM tool for new devices, but it's just not free... Even for repair companies.
Bare in mind they never gave us the MSM tool it was always leaked.
Hopefully Nothing can offer us something similar where it's free for us to use even if it is a leak, the main thing we would need for ROMs is a complete source release, which they have done with their previous device so they should this time too I would have thought, there's a strong chance there will be ROMs for the 2
I also agree it's pretty much the only company left that may offer modders a phone worthwhile buying, pixel would be my other choice.
Fingers crossed Xmas comes early for us all.
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Fingers crossed.
Moreover, I really wish Netflix and cable TV app will work after bootloader unlocked (and probably L1 maintained).
If so, it will be my next phone (512GB version of course) as soon as T-Mobile B71/N71 supported

mingkee said:
Fingers crossed.
Moreover, I really wish Netflix and cable TV app will work after bootloader unlocked (and probably L1 maintained).
If so, it will be my next phone (512GB version of course) as soon as T-Mobile B71/N71 supported
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I'm a year away from an upgrade Mar 2024.. really sucks but there you go...might wait til July and get the nothing 3, if it's anything like OnePlus then the 3 will be a beast as the OnePlus was.