Moto Z2 Play Storage? - Moto Z2 Play Questions & Answers

Hello!
I wanna now what kind of storage technology is using the phone and write/read speeds. Search the web but therw is no info avaible!
Motorola is delivery pretty shixxy specs phones at a high price and love to scatimate on everything so i will no be susprised if they are using cheap emmc from 1997.
2017 and motorola is using 32bit OS and almost no camera2api like a 2014 phone. The moto c plus for example has a frontal flash and no proximity sensor LOL.
Thanks!

No one know?

The Z2 Play uses the Snapdragon 626 and hence is limited to eMMC 5.1 and not UFS. So the chipset precludes any phone based on 626 from using UFS. The eMMC 5.1 chips came out in 2015 and have sequential reads and writes of 250MB/s and 125MB/s.
Update:. Motorola confirmed that it uses UFS and not eMMC
Updated update: Motorola said that it uses eMMC 5.1 and not UFS and the previous statement was incorrect

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[Q] Tengda GT-N5100 Exynos 4412/Note 8.0 ???

Welcome
I have a question for the experts
I purchased
youtube.com/watch?v=Bd4zuhDXWP
Tengda GT-N5100 Quad Core Android 4.2 Phone Tablet PC 3G GPS Exynos 4412 1.4GHz BT 8" 1280*800 16gb
Started to hang a little and I wanted to update the program odin,i installed samsung usb headsets, but not detected in windows, it shows as a device GT-N5100 drivers but not substitutes
youtube.com/watch?v=6LTQ02A03h4
samsung features and videos
youtube.com/watch?v=A6yx8sYtK9Y
youtube.com/watch?v=P3UWPLreavM
I started rummaging through the device, but because they do not demolish because it is sealed and warranty
Factory test fired and here BB Chip:MTK 6589 / MS Board : t 03g
youtube.com/watch?v=emuV8-Ia3E8
it does not move the bootloader with soft samsung
youtube.com/watch?v=Dc4u0xJJxiE
What is this device? whether it is to upload the soft samsung? please reply if anyone met with this device
Whats with those youtube links?
First, its a fake, the chip is MTK6589, not Exynos.
???
Crescendo Xenomorph said:
Whats with those youtube links?
First, its a fake, the chip is MTK6589, not Exynos.
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Welcome
Also starting to think that I was so deceived, H-IPS matrix, and note this is not one program shows Exynos CPU with 4 CPU, and the program HW info MTK8389/6589 does not support WCDMA 900 because the AERO 2 I bought it to have free internet. please tell me what program to check what is the chip?
I bought here
dealsprime.com/tablet-pc/functions/quad-core/tengda-gt-n5100-quad-core-android-4-2-phone-tablet-pc-3g-gps-exynos-4412-1-4ghz-bt-8-1280-800-16gb.htm
Orient OrientPhone N8 Tablet PC 8 inch RAM 1GB ROM 8GB MTK8389
So I was cheated in stock
OrientPhone N8 Tablet PC 8 inch RAM 1GB ROM 8GB MTK8389
Operating System: Android 4.2.9
Model: OrientPhone N8
Announced: 201309
Product Type: Tablet PC/Smartphone
Keyboard: Touch Screen
Display Technology: IPS Capacitive touch screen
Screen Size: 8 inch
Max Resolution: 1280*800
CPU Manufacturer: MTK
CPU Model: MTK8389 Quad Core
CPU Speed: 1.2GHz
RAM / Technology: DDR3
RAM Installed Size: 2GB
Hard Drive Type: NAND FAST FLASH
Hard Drive Capacity: 16GB
PCMCIA Expansion: T-FLASH(Support 32GB MAX)
Camera: 5MP+8.0MP
HDMI: Yes
3G: Yes GSM: 850/900/1800/1900;WCDMA: 850/2100
Bluetooth 3.0: Yes
GPS: Yes
G-Sensor: Yes
Audio: Built in stereo speakers/Built in Microphone
Software: Youtube/Facebook/Twitter/MSN/Android market/Skype/Calculator/Google Mail/Google maps/iReader/Quick Office
Language: Multi-language support
Battery Type: Li-ion
Battery / Run Time(up to): about 4-6 hours
Power Device Type: AC Adapter, AC 100-240V
Charging Voltage: DC 5V 2A
Color: White/Blue
Item Dimensions/ W*D*H: 210*136*8.
orientdeal.com/search.php?search_query=MTK8389&x=0&y=0
This could be it, but as mtk chip mask that sees chip software samsung exynos 4412, MTK sees no usb cable
I'm surprised a shooting performance in antutu results, it was at the beginning of 15 000 points, then 13, 999, then 12, 500, now there are 13 500
Do you have any back up rom for this tablet. I had a problem with my. would be nice if you share yours to me. I had cmw recovery but i dont have original rom for a tablet.
thanks in advance,
veeclement
Tengda GT-N5100 Exynos 4412/Note 8.0 or Orientphone N8 (MTK8389/6589)
Hello
house is downloadable China
google.pl/?gws_rd=cr&ei=jfKMUoi0KKKF4ASxuYDgCA#q=N5100zcbmd2
1,3 GB
support the store answered yes, let me quote:
"You received the only 8" tablet unit so the specs should be correct.
Sometimes Antutu and some benchmarks incorrectly report specifications on some devices. Also, the name of the Arm series of CPUs can be misleading with A7 A9 and Armv6 ArmV7 and so on. Also another factor to take in to account is that sometimes the operating system Kernel of the firmware of a device is updated for another device and the hardware name labels are incorrectly set by the device manufacturers hardware engineers. This doesn't mean you are getting less features or performance, it's just a name tag that has been attached at a firmware level. The hardware is correct and the performance is correct. One of these factors maybe causing the specifications to be reading incorrectly in your benchmark or sys-info application."
The strange thing is that the tablet logs as samsung, samsung and got accessories
Progamem MTK6589 tested and it has not detected components of the chip MTK6589
youtube.com/watch?v=OMhZsTuqFQU&feature=youtu.be
I can not too much to link to the forum because I'm green
Android 4.2.9
youtube.com/watch?v=0zKXHvn4m9E&feature=youtu.be
Equipment
youtube.com/watch?v=wP_dg4ZBQTo&feature=youtu.be
youtube.com/watch?v=dYhTjGlWEJE&feature=youtu.be
Test Cpu-z and CPU Identifier
youtube.com/watch?v=RJway9MdQ_8&feature=youtu.be
Test System Info Droid
youtube.com/watch?v=IUZH-oDrRos&feature=youtu.be
Please help me as a topic in order to identify the device, do not do more films because it is not advertising device, ask for an opinion on whether to move the soft ewentalnie like?
thank you
Tengda GT-N 5100
Today I played a bit of the tablet, surprise me different results Antutu and the difference is a couple of set points and time 1 100 points
in opsach in stores once again provide equipment samusng alternatives such as ...
dealsprime.com/tablet-pc/functions/quad-core/tengda-gt-n5100-quad-core-android-4-2-phone-tablet-pc-3g-gps-exynos-4412-1-4ghz-bt-8-1280-800-16gb.html
exwdeal.com/tengda-gt-n5100-exynos-4412-quad-core-3g-wcdma-tablet-pc-8-inch-android-4-2-2gb-16gb-gps-white.html
pandawill.com/tengda-gtn5100-exynos-4412-quad-core-3gwcdma-tablet-pc-8-inch-android-42-2gb-16gb-gps-white-p80543.html
I got a file that is what one is not then in a box, there are various boxes ...
As if the shop has written that it is not MTK6589 was up to it, ok
But bad counterfeit, fake
I think I asked about a dozen stores and each vendor turns, or sells the product description .........
Tengda GT-N5100 only MTK8389/6589 chip 1.2GHz Cortex A7 !!!!!
Hello
Today I was on samsung Poland, this is not a Samsung Exynos 4412 chip, 1.4GHz, Cortex A9, only MTK8389/6589 chip 1.2GHz Cortex A7 please not placing customers in blah, the product is not as described by the commercial law greet
Fraud !!!!!!!!!!!
Tengda GT-N5100 MTK............
Hello
I'm playing this device is any problem with the GPS , especially during the first connection takes a very long time and does not hold nicely within the weirs car , the second thing is bateraia this is not 4600 mha , on the device switched off ładyje to 60 % then cuts power to top up to the end you need to run the unit and charging takes bardo dłubo , in order to verify the battery and especially its pojemości ran a program that Mobileuncl Tools MTK6589 engineer mode and tem shows that beteria a 3900 mha . The software android 4.2.9 Gesture control is not DIAL well, or at all , all the time that elapsed wonder that during testing Antutu changes it drastically results and the difference between tastami is even more than 1500 points , Rusik with the software does not have features such as note 8 . Product bought dealsprime.com but despite assurances shop and dimming not interceded film confirms that this chip samsung , many retailers a couple of months promises a full test of the device , but I doubt if anyone inserts . How can you advertise a fake fakes !
Regards
Tengda GT-N5100 MTK............CPU Z
http://valid.canardpc.com/a/lepuh6
???
Samsung Exynos 4412 it,s cortex a9
Samsung Exynos 4412 cortex a7 !!!!
HDC, Tengda, ORIENT PHONE GT-N5100 MTK CHIP
Hello
Just one of the family members wanted this tablet I bought, but decided to order the chip MTK and not because of cheap samsung seller zapenił us that the HDC, Tengda, ORIENT PHONE same and all on chip MTK!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiAMjbJCIK8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAKuw-zDWiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amJN74JwhiQ
http://www.fastcardtech.com/HDC-Galaxy-Note-8.0-N5100
http://www.orientdeal.com/bluebo-t1...h-hd-smartphone-8mp-camera-1g-ram-8g-rom.html
http://www.orientdeal.com/tengda-gt...h-android-4.2-ram-2gb-rom-16gb-gps-white.html
http://www.orientdeal.com/orientpho...uad-core-1.2ghz-hd-ips-screen-3g-phablet.html
http://www.orientdeal.com/w5100-3g-...creen-android-4.2-gps-monster-phone-16gb.html
http://dealsprime.com/tablet-pc/fun...ps-exynos-4412-1-4ghz-bt-8-1280-800-16gb.html
http://www.pandawill.com/tengda-gtn...nch-android-42-2gb-16gb-gps-white-p80543.html
http://hdcmobile.com/hdc-galaxy-note-8-0-n5100.html
http://www.kamagraimpotencja.pl/hdc...z-8-0inch-hd-ips-screen-android-4-2-9-tablet/
http://world-phone-to-you.blogspot.com/2013/08/hdc-galaxy-tab3-80-n5100-mtk6589-quad.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1319460093/Note_8_Quad_core_tablet_phones.html
do not be fooled!
I gave more than $ 200 for something that is not including what's pay.
Now we ordered from one of the listed stores this tablet under nzawą blah blah blah.
Price $ 160 delivery and the equipment is the same.
Waiting for someone undress this device and take a photo of the chip in the middle.
No salesman will not do the test because the cpu comes out of the MTK ....
any attempt to upload firmware samsung for this hardware runs out of his damage as you can read on the Internet
I greet
OK, you don't have the note 8 tab, you have a fake and you know this. It is not even close to being similar to the note 8, Samsung software isn't going to work on it. I'm sorry but There is really nothing we can do for you here.
Clone Note 8.0
Hello
On the Chinese forum I got from one vendor data this equipment and Output models spft to this equipment which appeared in August 2013
This model BLUEBO T200
http://www.tinydeal.com/pre-sell-px1quf1-p-105640.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsK6JPXh7lg
soft
http://www.needrom.com/mobile/bluebo-t200-2/
http://www.needrom.com/mobile/bluebo-t200/
ROM
rom
http://androidxda.com/download-bluebo-stock-rom
Tengda GT-N5100 fake Note 8
Today I uploaded an update to the GT-N5100 Tengda
and jumped out of the data
CPU MTK8389, 1.2GHz, Cortex A7 quad core; GPUowerVR SGX 544
Operation System Android 4.2
RAM 1GB DDR 3
ROM 8GB Nand Flash
all this stuff is fake since the processor is a memory
what a scam made ​​in china!!!
Fake test GT-N5100
Fake test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz71yfxcO1I
UWAGA
Tengda GT-N5100 = Bluebo T200
http://www.needrom.com/mobile/bluebo-t200-2/
tengdy ROM is suitable for the same

Next Phone?

What phone do you suggest for the future? I'm disappointed with Zenfone 2 ZE551ML 4GB, bad materials, bad support, ridiculous battery life and bad space management (phone is too big).
My priority are battery (not necessary a battery phone, but at least 6-7 hours of display), good camera (I want support for real slow motion, not the ZF2 one ) , good design (I would prefer a 5-5.2") and good software support.
My budget is 400€ and I need phones that I can found on Amazon (so don't suggest me phones like OP3 that are on Amazon at 100€ more).
Thanks
I was thinking about ZUK Z2 & Z2 Pro as my next phone after ZF2. Generally because it's smaller than 5.5" and probably should have similar performance.
This choice is made based on specifications from the web. I still need to check some reviews for this phone.
Maybe someone can say anything about this phone?
Or Galaxy S8 Edge + Gear Vr,, or nothing
maciek90 said:
I was thinking about ZUK Z2 & Z2 Pro as my next phone after ZF2. Generally because it's smaller than 5.5" and probably should have similar performance.
This choice is made based on specifications from the web. I still need to check some reviews for this phone.
Maybe someone can say anything about this phone?
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The problem is that these phones like Zuk, Xiaomi and these "not top" brands, are not selling officially in Italy and they don't support 800Mhz (band 20) for 4G LTE, used a lot here, expecially where I live and with my carrier..so I need a "more european" brand, to have full 4G support.
I am thinking of the 5.5 inch Zenfone 3. I have been very happy with my ze551ml.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using XDA-Developers mobile app
check elephone p9000 around 250$
dredremon said:
check elephone p9000 around 250$
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P9000 is not really better than ZF2, at least the 4 Gb version (unless you're badly looking for a fingerprint unlockable phone).
I used a P8000 before and although it's a nice phone, Mediatek processors are less powerful than other manufacturers' equivalent cpu's. If you take Antutu Benchmark as a reference (yes, we all know it can be faked, but it serves its purpose as a reference, and a way to compare two phones) P9000 scores between 45k and 47k, while my ZF2, which is the 1.8 Ghz version, scores between 55k and 57k. P9000 wouldn't be such a step forward, unless your ZF2 is broken beyond repair.
I'd stick to ZF2 until something significantly more powerful and affordable comes around. I've already seen some 6 Gb RAM phones, also with 128 Gb storage, but definitely not in the same price range as the ZF2.
jman0 said:
P9000 is not really better than ZF2, at least the 4 Gb version (unless you're badly looking for a fingerprint unlockable phone).
I used a P8000 before and although it's a nice phone, Mediatek processors are less powerful than other manufacturers' equivalent cpu's. If you take Antutu Benchmark as a reference (yes, we all know it can be faked, but it serves its purpose as a reference, and a way to compare two phones) P9000 scores between 45k and 47k, while my ZF2, which is the 1.8 Ghz version, scores between 55k and 57k. P9000 wouldn't be such a step forward, unless your ZF2 is broken beyond repair.
I'd stick to ZF2 until something significantly more powerful and affordable comes around. I've already seen some 6 Gb RAM phones, also with 128 Gb storage, but definitely not in the same price range as the ZF2.
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if you want upgrade 400$ i suggest xiaomo mi5s + or one plus 3
My current "short list" of devices:
OnePlus 3
ZTE Axon 7
Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe
LeEco Le Max 2
LeEco Le Pro 3
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3
Sony XA Ultra
Nexus 6
Motorola Moto X Pure
I sincerely felt ZF2 not really worth the price , the hardwares are high spec but softwares are ****.
I got mine in June last year and as still pleased with it. Worth the price to me.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using XDA-Developers mobile app
I'll not purchase ASUS anymore period.
I replace it with an Galaxy S7 duos (flat screen version), cost near twice but it's the best android phone available despite Pixel XL hype, the S7 is the fastest water proof dual sim better display, much smaller than the asus and pixel XL, features Knox and multitasking and Samsung voice recognition its available in Spanish and while not as funny as the assistant does very well when I'm driving, also read messages and emails features not available in Spanish from Google asistant o now. Ahh the S7 also includes HR sensor and wireless charging and cost 300 less than a pixel XL.
I can't find one with better specs than the Zenfone 2 and with the ability to use two sim cards and an sd card at the same time .
karlzberg said:
I can't find one with better specs than the Zenfone 2 and with the ability to use two sim cards and an sd card at the same time .
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Yea there are, the Moto G4 has a dual sim version I don't know if can use the sd slot the same time but includes 64 internal storage android 7 and 0 bloat.
I don't use the sd slot often with 32gb its far enough to me even I have 3 games and 10gb+ in mp3, and when I need video for long trips I just plug an mini otg-usb pendrive.
But there is an mod for the S7 that allows simultaneously use the SD and two sim but implies devastating one sim that can't be uses on other phone anymore.
AcostaJA said:
Yea there are, the Moto G4 has a dual sim version I don't know if can use the sd slot the same time but includes 64 internal storage android 7 and 0 bloat.
I don't use the sd slot often with 32gb its far enough to me even I have 3 games and 10gb+ in mp3, and when I need video for long trips I just plug an mini otg-usb pendrive.
But there is an mod for the S7 that allows simultaneously use the SD and two sim but implies devastating one sim that can't be uses on other phone anymore.
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Moto G4 has only 2gb ram it does has a dedicated sd card slot though :good: but spec wise it's not as good as the zenfone 2 imo.
karlzberg said:
Moto G4 has only 2gb ram it does has a dedicated sd card slot though :good: but spec wise it's not as good as the zenfone 2 imo.
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FYI Moto G4 has versions from 2GB/32gb 5HD" to 4GB/64GB" 5.5HD +fingerprint reader from 150$ (G4play) to 300$ (G4+), in some markets is offered with Dual-Sim feature, and spec-off its an high quality build phone, absolutely reliable with the fastest updated among non-nexus phones, even I considered it at last moment instead the S7.
AcostaJA said:
FYI Moto G4 has versions from 2GB/32gb 5HD" to 4GB/64GB" 5.5HD +fingerprint reader from 150$ (G4play) to 300$ (G4+), in some markets is offered with Dual-Sim feature, and spec-off its an high quality build phone, absolutely reliable with the fastest updated among non-nexus phones, even I considered it at last moment instead the S7.
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:good:
Moto G4 plus Google says 4GB only on sale via Amazon in the UK checking Amazon I'm finding 3GB at £245 so when the 4GB version is out I'm thinking it will probably be north of £300.
One to keep an eye on though:good:
Got the missus a vernee thor for 80GBP , comes with MM out the box and just put AOSP 7.1 on it for her from M.A.D team, here on XDA .
Nippy device 3GB ram and...... MTK of all chipsets
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_8-8231.php
go for xiaomi mi5 or zenfone 3 deluxe. i am using xiaomi mi5. believe me its best.

[SPECS] Nokia 8 |2017| Camera comparison 821 vs 835 and Specs

The Nokia brand name is making waves in the smartphone world again following the arrival of the mid-range Android-toting Nokia 6.
Nokia 8 camera comparison 821 vs 835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPi26Ov0n7s
A new video, surfacing online this week, claims the existence of a new handset that could finally give long-time Nokia fans what they’ve always wanted; a flagship Android phone to be proud of. The so-called Nokia 8 (also known as P1) has allegedly been spotted by the TotalTech YouTube channel, which says it took the images on the sly at CES 2017 and posted them without permission. We have not verified this information and, as a result of such a proclamation, we're taking this with a healthy dose of skepticism.
Specs Nokia 8 2017
There’ll be two models, both offering a 5.7-inch Quad HD Super Amoled display and a 24-megapixel rear-facing camera with OIS + EIS. One of the phones would be powered by the new Snapdragon 835 processor and 6GB RAM. The lesser edition would offer a Snapdragon 821 with 4GB RAM. A 12-megapixel front-facing camera is tipped by the video’s description adds, as is up to 128GB storage (expandable by microSD) and dual front-facing speakers.
what is about this

We can't reach the Galileo satellite in Europe.

Hello everybody,
I wonder why we can't reach the Galileo satellite here in Europe, while the our snapdragon 820 processor support this satellite.
The same says also Qualcomm in they site here:
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...pport-galileo-across-snapdragon-processor-and
I'm using navigon and also a test software from play store, and compare with galaxy s8 it has support Galileo, our Zuk z2 plus hasn't.
Maybe somebody knows why?
Thnx!
The CPU may support the function but its a OEM choice to "enable" the function on the phone. Since the phone isnt made by just the CPU, in order to accommodate others functions for another ICs, or to "cripple" functions based on region only, or even if they dont want to pay royalties for the use of the tecnology, they may not implement all the functions the Chipset supports. This is true for the Quick Charge 3.0, for instance. Commonly used on all SD820 phones, isnt avaiable on Zuk Z2 saddly...
nameless-- said:
The CPU may support the function but its a OEM choice to "enable" the function on the phone. Since the phone isnt made by just the CPU, in order to accommodate others functions for another ICs, or to "cripple" functions based on region only, or even if they dont want to pay royalties for the use of the tecnology, they may not implement all the functions the Chipset supports. This is true for the Quick Charge 3.0, for instance. Commonly used on all SD820 phones, isnt avaiable on Zuk Z2 saddly...
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Thnx for your answer, at least I know why!
And it is sad.For the rest and for €164 is wonderful phone ?
I was wondering the same. According to gsmarena, no phone exists with a snapdragon 820 (MSM8996) and supports Galileo. Therefore I doubt that Qualcomm offers this driver/software to manufacturers for our soc.
Since Qualcomm is american, and Galileo is in direct competition with the GPS, they may have disabled it to cripple the ability of the EU to spread the compatibility for its positioning system.
DavidWel said:
I was wondering the same. According to gsmarena, no phone exists with a snapdragon 820 (MSM8996) and supports Galileo. Therefore I doubt that Qualcomm offers this driver/software to manufacturers for our soc.
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Nope only the Zuk Edge supports it.
It seems that the Chinese Beidou satellites can be used without problem on my Z2. However I can't see Galileo ones either. There're only three types of satellites, probably, on the GPS test app: GPS, GLONASS, BEIDOU.

AImark benchmark score half down in P vs. O - no Hexagon/DSP hardware support?

Hi,
Running AIMark (search for it im Play Store, I'm not allowed yet to post links) which also Anandtech uses for ML/DNN benchmarking gives me in Android 9 ca. 7800 points, only half of the score as when running it on another Moto Z2 device still with Android 8.0 where the score is almost 14000!
The benchmark uses the Snapdragon Neural Processing Engine (SNPE) for ML interference which can support DSP/GPU(?) acceleration. Without the required libraries from Qualcomm only the CPU cores will be used, which of course is slower.
The score for Moto Z(1) is with 13500 almost the same as for the Z2 what makes sense as both Hexagon DSPs 680/682 are quite similar. A newer 845 I tested (Sony, Android 9, Hexagon 685) has a score of ca. 19000.
In the Anandtech article (I can't link) the scores of LG V30 (835) vs. S9 (845) are similar in the same way. But a Pixel 2 XL, presumely without the Hexagon/DSP hardware support libraries looks really bad there.
Could somebody with an Android 9 upgraded Z2 try out the benchmark and tell me his/her score? This Chinese app wants access to calls and media (Maybe it only collects device name/IMEI etc. for statistics/ranking but who knows?) so be careful when you use it with your everyday phone.
If this is not a specific problem of my device then I guess the SNPE acceleration suffered a major regression for the Z2 (835) in Android 9 or some libs for hardware acceleration are missing .
Can someone else confirm this?
Thanks, M.

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