Hi, I've found that the headphone output of this phone, while good for some headphones, has too much noise for sensitive IEMs and not enough power for some less efficient headphones, so I'm looking into a portable DAC/Amp. I tried this one with a USB-C adapter:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJSEAZ4
But it didn't work. I know the USB-C adapter works, as I've used it with a thumb drive, and I know the DAC works on other Android devices, but apparently compatibility isn't universal. So has anyone successfully tried a portable DAC with this phone?
My Fiio Q1 works fine with the phone.
uberano26 said:
My Fiio Q1 works fine with the phone.
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Thanks, that's good to hear. I was considering one of Fiio's products
I tried this one: http://hifimediy.com/android-dac
Works very well together with an USB B to C converter that supports USB OTG and drove even my good old 600 Ohm AKG K 141 loud enough!
It has a Sabre DAC. Bought it out of concern that the sound of the phone might not be good enough. But it is - at least with low impedance headphones like my Ultimate Ears UE 10 TF I don't find a difference to the 180 $ sony walkman of my GF.
(Small remark: Used a Samsung USB B to C converter first. This one, while doing very well on the PC and with ADB and also with the charger did not work as OTG adaptor.)
noisyriver said:
I tried this one: http://hifimediy.com/android-dac
Works very well together with an USB B to C converter that supports USB OTG and drove even my good old 600 Ohm AKG K 141 loud enough!
It has a Sabre DAC. Bought it out of concern that the sound of the phone might not be good enough. But it is - at least with low impedance headphones like my Ultimate Ears UE 10 TF I don't find a difference to the 180 $ sony walkman of my GF.
(Small remark: Used a Samsung USB B to C converter first. This one, while doing very well on the PC and with ADB and also with the charger did not work as OTG adaptor.)
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Weird, that's the exact one I tried that didn't work. Maybe I needed a different USB-C OTG adapter
thisisjason said:
Weird, that's the exact one I tried that didn't work. Maybe I needed a different USB-C OTG adapter
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For sure. It works for me without problems - plug and play.
I use this adaptor: http://www.delock.com/produkte/G_65678/merkmale.html
Side note: While I could use the Samsung adaptor for charging (but not for OTG devices) this one works well for OTG - but not for charging.
Edit: The price for te DAC on the amazon side is way higher than if you buy directly from the Hifimediy website.
And you should also note, that this DAC while it's pretty good for higher impedance phones did not work well with my low (32 ohm) impedance IEM's. But for those I found no need to use the DAC.
I ended up with a Fiio E18, I like the fact that it has playback control, plus B&H has it on sale right now. It doesn't seem to work with Poweramp, but it works perfectly with USB Audio Player PRO.
thisisjason said:
I ended up with a Fiio E18, I like the fact that it has playback control, plus B&H has it on sale right now. It doesn't seem to work with Poweramp, but it works perfectly with USB Audio Player PRO.
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Will USB Audio Player read OTG storage?
Most file explorers do not see mnt/media_rw/0EB0-0FF. Do any players?
Quick, and hopefully not too stupid, question, do I need to root the phone to get the DAC working with Google Play Music?
ahfpired said:
Quick, and hopefully not too stupid, question, do I need to root the phone to get the DAC working with Google Play Music?
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Gpm will not pcm to a dac.
Need USBAPP
NO ROOT
This video may help re audio dongles and USB-C adapters
It's easy. The note 10 and plus will work with any USB C to 3.5.mm adapter that has a built in DAC. The ones that don't only work with phones that have a built in headphone DAC. The N10 and Plus doesn't.
Yes but the huawei salesmen said there's will work and many advertiser claiming they have DAC built in
As I said if the dongle has a built in DAC it will work on the N10. If not it wont
Has anyone managed to get a USB dac working without using UAP pro?
I have a Hidizs S3 that works perfectly through UAP pro, unfortunately my current music streaming service (Amazon music HD) isn't supported by UAP.
If I use the dac without going through UAP it is just used as a dumb extension cable and the dac isn't used.
Many thanks for any suggestions.
I tried, but sound quality is just not good without UAP.
I am rooted with Viper4Android
Thanks, stupidly I upgraded to this phone thinking it would be a step up in sound quality. It wasn't. So I bought a USB dac. That doesn't work properly ?
Guys, do you know the detailed information about the DAC used in our OnePlus 7T of the audio passes through the Type C » 3.5mm adapter? Like dynamic range, impedance it can handle, etc.
Please check the LG G7's specs in this link : https://m.gsmarena.com/lg_g7_thinq-9115.php . In Sound section there's it's sound specification written in Bit and kHz. Also, since the 7T has Qualcomm Snapdragon 855+, which DAC chipset model does it have?
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Guys, do you know the detailed information about the DAC used in our OnePlus 7T of the audio passes through the Type C » 3.5mm adapter? Like dynamic range, impedance it can handle, etc.
Please check the LG G7's specs in this link : https://m.gsmarena.com/lg_g7_thinq-9115.php . In Sound section there's it's sound specification written in Bit and kHz. Also, since the 7T has Qualcomm Snapdragon 855+, which DAC chipset model does it have?
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https://www.qualcomm.com/products/features/aqstic
This is what our chipset is using for audio. As for USBC to 3.5mm jack, nothing too special going on but you can look on Amazon for the hidiz adapter which claims to have a dac integration. I haven't had the chance to get one yet.
Just to add to this, I tried the samsung dongle(believe passive) that came with my tablet and didn't work.
My SMSL Idea dac works fine set up as usb-audio 1.1. As does my veclan odessey hd.
R800x_user said:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/features/aqstic
This is what our chipset is using for audio. As for USBC to 3.5mm jack, nothing too special going on but you can look on Amazon for the hidiz adapter which claims to have a dac integration. I haven't had the chance to get one yet.
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nunook said:
Just to add to this, I tried the samsung dongle(believe passive) that came with my tablet and didn't work.
My SMSL Idea dac works fine set up as usb-audio 1.1. As does my veclan odessey hd.
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I just ordered the Tempotec Sonata HD Pro. I was planning to buy the original OnePlus adapter but since I want to use it with my PC also I went for the separate DAC device. Anyways thanks for the replies ??
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Has anyone any clarity over whether our 7t's have analog pass-through for the usb-c port? I.E. uses onboard DAC for passthrough? Any reviews for quality vs external DAC usb-c to 3.5mm adapters like ESS/Realtek?
Has anyone managed to find a USB C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter 2in1 for the Pixel 6 Pro. The few I have tried so far only at best will work the audio port but none will charge. Hoping to find one that does both for when driving to be able to charge and listen to music with the 3,5 mm headphone attached to my car radio input. Adapters similar to the attached images that work would be ideal.
Thanks
Unfortunately, the only ones I've seen that reputably work for Power Delivery phones are effectively "hubs", like Anker USB C Hub, PowerExpand 11-in-1 USB C Hub Adapter, with [email protected] HDMI and DP, 100W Power Delivery, USB-C and 3 USB-A Data Ports, 1 Gbps Ethernet, 3.5mm Audio, microSD and SD Card Reader (sold out on Anker's site PowerExpand 11-in-1 USB-C PD Hub). They make other hubs, but I don't see any others of theirs that have a 3.5mm headphone port.
I too, wouldn't mind a more compact and cheaper solution, but I no longer really care about 3.5mm headphone jacks and would be happy with a similar adapter with two USB-C ports - one for USB-C headphones and the other for charging. I may have seen some like that too but not sure as to their reputation, and overall it's not that important to me.
Might be a logic glitch where it assumes that having a usb "device" plugged in means that the phone needs to supply the power rather than receive it.
Does your car radio really not have bluetooth?
And since you are in a car, how about a Qi charger pad?
you would need
Fladnag99 said:
Has anyone managed to find a USB C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter 2in1 for the Pixel 6 Pro. The few I have tried so far only at best will work the audio port but none will charge. Hoping to find one that does both for when driving to be able to charge and listen to music with the 3,5 mm headphone attached to my car radio input. Adapters similar to the attached images that work would be ideal.
Thanks
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just search usb c to audio charger
and make sure its compatible with a samsung device as they require a DAC in the usb like the google does
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Might be a logic glitch where it assumes that having a usb "device" plugged in means that the phone needs to supply the power rather than receive it.
Does your car radio really not have bluetooth?
And since you are in a car, how about a Qi charger pad?
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Unfortunaetly it doesnt have bluetooth and since I use the phone for navigation while driveing the Qi charger woldnt really serve a purpose.
Is there a difference between the technology in a pixel 4a5g and the Pixel 6 pro. A device like the first picture I showed works fine in the pixel 4a5g but only does audio and no charging for the Pixel 6 pro
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Is there a difference between the technology in a pixel 4a5g and the Pixel 6 pro. A device like the first picture I showed works fine in the pixel 4a5g but only does audio and no charging for the Pixel 6 pro
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Jup, it's called Tensor.
Fladnag99 said:
Unfortunaetly it doesnt have bluetooth and since I use the phone for navigation while driveing the Qi charger woldnt really serve a purpose.
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I use a magnetic Qi charger on my dashboard. It works great and provide plenty of power to charge under heavy use. Not as elegant as a proper split USB adapter, but should at least work if you can't find one.
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Might be a logic glitch where it assumes that having a usb "device" plugged in means that the phone needs to supply the power rather than receive it.
Does your car radio really not have bluetooth?
And since you are in a car, how about a Qi charger pad?
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Why would he want to use Bluetooth? There's still reason not to. Not many car stereos support the higher quality Bluetooth streaming codecs. Not even AAC, I know mine doesn't. SBC is very unusable.
prohibido_por_la_ley said:
Why would he want to use Bluetooth? There's still reason not to. Not many car stereos support the higher quality Bluetooth streaming codecs. Not even AAC, I know mine doesn't. SBC is very unusable.
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Can't wait to find a car with audiophile speakers to make a difference
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Can't wait to find a car with audiophile speakers to make a difference
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I drive a Toyota Corolla it doesn't have audiophile speakers and I can tell the difference it is night and day even when streaming Amazon music although it's less of a difference there but if you're listening to compressed music on YouTube music there is a difference maybe you should go get your hearing checked
i mean youtube music starts at 48kbps aac to 256kbps
amazon songs start at up to 867kbps and over 3k kbps peak for premium
unironically searched it up someone made a patch that enables SBC to go up to its maximum bitrate of 512kb
stereo that makes it onpar/better with aptx and works sending to older devices like car stereos
he even pushed it to google 2 years ago buts its still processing
Android Patch Brings Bluetooth SBC Codec Audio Quality on-par with aptX - CNX Software
Android patch improves Bluetooth SBC codec audio quality on all existing devices, allegedly making it as good as the high quality aptX HD codec
www.cnx-software.com
https://android-review.googlesource.com/c/platform/packages/apps/Bluetooth/+/759258/1
its in custom roms like RR etc shame its not implemented in stock still
You should look into a Bluetooth DAC. Yes it's another thing to charge but for me it's the best of both worlds, quality wired sound yet not tethered to the phone or whatever device. I have a FiiO BTR3K. It's super small, I connect it to a belt loop, and it's got 10 hours of battery life. And yes, you could wire charge your phone while listening.
FiiO BTR3K Hi-Res Bluetooth 5.0 Receiver/Headphone Amp
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Izy said:
i mean youtube music starts at 48kbps aac to 256kbps
amazon songs start at up to 867kbps and over 3k kbps peak for premium
unironically searched it up someone made a patch that enables SBC to go up to its maximum bitrate of 512kb
stereo that makes it onpar/better with aptx and works sending to older devices like car stereos
he even pushed it to google 2 years ago buts its still processing
Android Patch Brings Bluetooth SBC Codec Audio Quality on-par with aptX - CNX Software
Android patch improves Bluetooth SBC codec audio quality on all existing devices, allegedly making it as good as the high quality aptX HD codec
www.cnx-software.com
https://android-review.googlesource.com/c/platform/packages/apps/Bluetooth/+/759258/1
its in custom roms like RR etc shame its not implemented in stock still
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I feel like there will still be some degradation in the signal because it is still transcoding a lossy codec to another lossy codec. It's something I'll try when I'm connected to my home stereo.
Fladnag99 said:
Has anyone managed to find a USB C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter 2in1 for the Pixel 6 Pro. The few I have tried so far only at best will work the audio port but none will charge. Hoping to find one that does both for when driving to be able to charge and listen to music with the 3,5 mm headphone attached to my car radio input. Adapters similar to the attached images that work would be ideal.
Thanks
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I use this and it works great.
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FoneWatcher said:
I use this and it works great.
Amazon.com
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Are you saying this worked great for the new Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro's?
Anyone who tells you they can tell the difference between bluetooth and {insert whateverthefeckhere} when competing with engine, road, and wind noise is absolutely full of sh**. Your ears are not that sensitive.
Fladnag99 said:
since I use the phone for navigation while driveing the Qi charger woldnt really serve a purpose
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I don't understand this logic. The phone doesn't turn off when you use Qi. It still works. If its about how the phone is mounted, either buy a holder with a Qi pad in it, or stick a Qi pad at the back of the holder.
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Anyone who tells you they can tell the difference between bluetooth and {insert whateverthefeckhere} when competing with engine, road, and wind noise is absolutely full of sh**. Your ears are not that sensitive.
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Go get your hearing checked then because there is a difference. It's less of a difference when using tidal or Amazon music but when using YouTube music or Spotify etc it's staggering.
prohibido_por_la_ley said:
Go get your hearing checked then because there is a difference. It's less of a difference when using tidal or Amazon music but when using YouTube music or Spotify etc it's staggering.
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My hearing is perfect. Yours is not as acute as you believe it to be.